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(CNN)   "What America would look like with zero immigration." A shiatload of bison conspicuously absent   (cnn.com) divider line
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2021-04-19 6:22:07 PM  
Horrible food everywhere?
 
2021-04-19 6:22:46 PM  
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White people, amirite?
 
2021-04-19 6:23:56 PM  
Good. Maybe it will make people regret wounded knee.
😔
 
2021-04-19 6:24:31 PM  
Utter nonsense. Overpopulation is a worldwide phenomenon. That doesn't mean that everyone should come here. This country is already full, like all the rest of them.
 
2021-04-19 6:25:11 PM  
No dust storms, because no over-grazing by Texas ranchers and no loss of native prairie grasses.
 
2021-04-19 6:25:15 PM  
Without any immigration, America would look a lot like Asia, since Native Americans and East Asians are basically genetically the same racial group, with a bunch of nations built around the native American tribes and their territories.

They wouldn't be hunting bison on horseback either.  They would have done exactly what their cousins did back in East Asia, and built roads, bridges, factories, and tech centers,

Their culture wouldn't be recognizable as anything like it is now, but that would be okay, because in that universe, whatever culture they evolved into, would have been by their choice.
 
2021-04-19 6:25:27 PM  
The vast majority of Americans are immigrants or the children of immigrants. I'm part Swedish.

This country exists because we exist and we came here from other places.
 
2021-04-19 6:25:50 PM  

WastrelWay: This country is already full, like all the rest of them.


LOL
 
2021-04-19 6:26:02 PM  
It wouldn't be called America, named after an Italian.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2021-04-19 6:26:54 PM  
All the Pleistocene megafauna, but nobody to enjoy it.
 
2021-04-19 6:27:08 PM  
I like the shiatload of Bison idea, Subby.
 
2021-04-19 6:27:24 PM  
Repubs say we're full when discussing immigration, but sing the opposite tune when the topic is fracking or hunting licenses.
 
2021-04-19 6:27:34 PM  

ZAZ: All the Pleistocene megafauna, but nobody to enjoy it.


Damn, you're talking OG immigration.
 
2021-04-19 6:29:22 PM  

WastrelWay: Utter nonsense. Overpopulation is a worldwide phenomenon. That doesn't mean that everyone should come here. This country is already full, like all the rest of them.


Well, there it is. The dumbest thing I'll read all day.
 
2021-04-19 6:30:38 PM  
White people don't want socialism unless it's ss benefits and Medicare.  Then, they don't want workers to keep those programs solvent.

Seriously though...without immigration, we fall.  The system we have built needs more people and the country can easily withstand a population surge in most areas.
 
2021-04-19 6:31:09 PM  
I enjoyed the headline.
 
2021-04-19 6:31:11 PM  
Hundreds of millions more Native "Americans" and Mexicans roaming around without smallpox and other gifts from the white invaders.

\nuff said
 
2021-04-19 6:31:47 PM  

mcsiegs: White people don't want socialism unless it's ss benefits and Medicare.  Then, they don't want workers to keep those programs solvent.

Seriously though...without immigration, we fall.  The system we have built needs more people and the country can easily withstand a population surge in most areas.


White guy here? I want socialism. And I vote.
 
2021-04-19 6:32:04 PM  
The "nativists" are simply scared of someone taking their job.

I mean, there are plenty of stories of H1B workers displacing people in technology jobs. It does happen but to nowhere near an extent as Faux News would lead people to believe.

My job is so specialized that 99.95 percent of my company couldn't do it; in fact, there are only 20-30 people I think would have the skills and ability to do what I do day in and day out.

You want job security?

Master two things: the English language and logic.
 
2021-04-19 6:33:00 PM  
With an immediate family with birth certificates from three continents, I'd have probably kept that girlfriend who became a federal immigration and citizenship head in yet another country and become very well versed in the Schengen pact, the Foreign and Commonwealth office, and who knows, learned lots of languages.
 
2021-04-19 6:33:22 PM  
The US population is aging fast.  You better import your immigrants now.  You're going to need somebody to look after you when you end up in the retirement homes.  The only place you will find that cheap workforce is with immigrants.
 
2021-04-19 6:34:20 PM  

winedrinkingman: Without any immigration, America would look a lot like Asia, since Native Americans and East Asians are basically genetically the same racial group, with a bunch of nations built around the native American tribes and their territories.

They wouldn't be hunting bison on horseback either.  They would have done exactly what their cousins did back in East Asia, and built roads, bridges, factories, and tech centers,

Their culture wouldn't be recognizable as anything like it is now, but that would be okay, because in that universe, whatever culture they evolved into, would have been by their choice.


I don't necessarily think that would have happened.  Those things developed because of population densities and geopolitical issues that didn't exist in the Americas.  Metallurgy was limited to some areas that smelted gold.  There weren't the pressures of empires and border clashes, there weren't cities growing larger and larger requiring new innovations, there weren't large populations demanding large quantities of imports requiring extensive infrastructure, a least in within the modern USA borders.  A predominant theme in the vast majority of indigenous cultures was the idea that humans were not created specifically to use the world, but instead are just fancier animals that need to coexist with the rest of the world (and thus need to avoid unnecessary hunting and killing and destroying), which also held back infrastructure development.  I don't know how things would look without the Europeans, but the things existing today simply wouldn't exist in that alternate reality.
 
2021-04-19 6:36:18 PM  

Bowen: [Fark user image 425x318]

White people, amirite?


Maybe I need to go to an eye doctor, but it saw sea turtles and not buffalo skulls in that picture.
 
2021-04-19 6:36:47 PM  
It's not that conservatives are against immigration, they just want wealthy educated white Anglo-Saxon Protestant immigrants and no brown people.
 
2021-04-19 6:37:11 PM  

Albert911emt: Hundreds of millions more Native "Americans" and Mexicans roaming around without smallpox and other gifts from the white invaders.

\nuff said


I mean, if we're going back to the first human inhabitants of NA and calling everyone after immigrants, we're gonna have to exclude the several waves of immigration (and conquest) over hundreds or thousands of years after them.
 
2021-04-19 6:37:17 PM  

AndoCommando: The US population is aging fast.  You better import your immigrants now.  You're going to need somebody to look after you when you end up in the retirement homes.  The only place you will find that cheap workforce is with immigrants.


It's not just a cheap workforce but any work force. I live in the northeast and building houses up here takes forever. We don't have enough people to build them.
 
2021-04-19 6:37:24 PM  
What we need is free travel across all borders for everyone.  Along with common dignity and respect and basic human rights for all.   I.e. Peace on Earth and goodwill to all.  Without the glory to God part.  Unless that is your thing.
 
2021-04-19 6:38:58 PM  
But, some of my best friends are Honkies!
 
2021-04-19 6:39:10 PM  

NM Volunteer: winedrinkingman: Without any immigration, America would look a lot like Asia, since Native Americans and East Asians are basically genetically the same racial group, with a bunch of nations built around the native American tribes and their territories.

They wouldn't be hunting bison on horseback either.  They would have done exactly what their cousins did back in East Asia, and built roads, bridges, factories, and tech centers,

Their culture wouldn't be recognizable as anything like it is now, but that would be okay, because in that universe, whatever culture they evolved into, would have been by their choice.

I don't necessarily think that would have happened.  Those things developed because of population densities and geopolitical issues that didn't exist in the Americas.  Metallurgy was limited to some areas that smelted gold.  There weren't the pressures of empires and border clashes, there weren't cities growing larger and larger requiring new innovations, there weren't large populations demanding large quantities of imports requiring extensive infrastructure, a least in within the modern USA borders.  A predominant theme in the vast majority of indigenous cultures was the idea that humans were not created specifically to use the world, but instead are just fancier animals that need to coexist with the rest of the world (and thus need to avoid unnecessary hunting and killing and destroying), which also held back infrastructure development.  I don't know how things would look without the Europeans, but the things existing today simply wouldn't exist in that alternate reality.


You don't know anything about what the Aztecs and Mayans did, do you?
 
2021-04-19 6:40:44 PM  

mcsiegs: White people don't want socialism


You do not speak for me, k?
 
2021-04-19 6:41:04 PM  

TomDooley: What we need is free travel across all borders for everyone.  Along with common dignity and respect and basic human rights for all.   I.e. Peace on Earth and goodwill to all.  Without the glory to God part.  Unless that is your thing.


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2021-04-19 6:42:13 PM  
The idea according to Faux News and the GQP was for white people to come here, buy or bring their black slaves and for all the blacks to "go back home" once they were replaced by farm machinery.    We would "let" people cross the border illegally to plant and harvest our crops, work in our slaughterhouses and do all the other deplorable jobs for slave wages then back they go too.   Oddly, some people have a problem with this.
 
2021-04-19 6:43:08 PM  

brantgoose: I like the shiatload of Bison idea, Subby.


Definitely better than the bison load of shiat idea.
 
2021-04-19 6:43:25 PM  

WastrelWay: Utter nonsense. Overpopulation is a worldwide phenomenon. That doesn't mean that everyone should come here. This country is already full, like all the rest of them.


[Citation Needed]

About twenty miles east from where I sit there is about 500 miles of nothing in every direction except west.
 
2021-04-19 6:45:14 PM  

NM Volunteer: but instead are just fancier animals that need to coexist with the rest of the world (and thus need to avoid unnecessary hunting and killing and destroying)


Which is why stampeding an herd over a cliff and picking the choice bits was a thing.
 
2021-04-19 6:48:11 PM  

winedrinkingman: Without any immigration, America would look a lot like Asia, since Native Americans and East Asians are basically genetically the same racial group, with a bunch of nations built around the native American tribes and their territories.

They wouldn't be hunting bison on horseback either.  They would have done exactly what their cousins did back in East Asia, and built roads, bridges, factories, and tech centers,

Their culture wouldn't be recognizable as anything like it is now, but that would be okay, because in that universe, whatever culture they evolved into, would have been by their choice.


Difficulty: no heavy domesticable beasts of burden, like horses/oxen.

Except where llamas and alpacas will serve, that leaves human backs to power the agriculture that would provide the excess calories to support the specialists teching you up to factories.

So, probably what you said, but definitely with a ton of slavery.
 
2021-04-19 6:48:15 PM  

DerAppie: NM Volunteer: but instead are just fancier animals that need to coexist with the rest of the world (and thus need to avoid unnecessary hunting and killing and destroying)

Which is why stampeding an herd over a cliff and picking the choice bits was a thing.


It certainly was a thing that white people invented to justify slaughtering all of the buffalo.
 
2021-04-19 6:48:30 PM  
I have no problem with immigration. Legal, controlled immigration. First we need a clear path to citizenship that doesn't take 10+ years for qualified candidates. Then, we need to focus on the homeless, mentally ill, and those incarcerated in for profit prisons. This country is and can be even more amazing, but we need to get our house cleaned up and in order before we start inviting other people over for a party.
 
2021-04-19 6:48:32 PM  

Geotpf: WastrelWay: Utter nonsense. Overpopulation is a worldwide phenomenon. That doesn't mean that everyone should come here. This country is already full, like all the rest of them.

[Citation Needed]

About twenty miles east from where I sit there is about 500 miles of nothing in every direction except west.


"This country is full" is one of the favorite lies of racist white people.
 
2021-04-19 6:49:06 PM  

Albert911emt: Hundreds of millions more Native "Americans" and Mexicans roaming around without smallpox and other gifts from the white invaders.

\nuff said


Smallpox wasn't eliminated in Europe until the mid-1900s, so that would have spread at some point or another - unless you're speculating about a world where Old Worlders had no contact whatsoever for centuries.
 
2021-04-19 6:54:02 PM  
"Answering a question nobody asked" also conspicuously absent.
 
2021-04-19 6:54:42 PM  

jjorsett: "Answering a question nobody asked" also conspicuously absent.


It was in response to Trump's policy of doing exactly that.
 
2021-04-19 6:55:39 PM  

wildbill0712: I have no problem with immigration. Legal, controlled immigration. First we need a clear path to citizenship that doesn't take 10+ years for qualified candidates


I don't think most people realize how absolutely farked that is.  There are people who go on about how their great grandparents came here and did it legally.  No shiat.  It used to be you showed up, signed your name and you were a citizen.  If you know someone that has gone through the citizenship process, you know how idiotic it is.
 
2021-04-19 6:56:07 PM  

wildbill0712: I have no problem with immigration. Legal, controlled immigration. First we need a clear path to citizenship that doesn't take 10+ years for qualified candidates. Then, we need to focus on the homeless, mentally ill, and those incarcerated in for profit prisons. This country is and can be even more amazing, but we need to get our house cleaned up and in order before we start inviting other people over for a party.


😶
 
2021-04-19 6:56:31 PM  

casual disregard: The vast majority of Americans are immigrants or the children of immigrants. I'm part Swedish.

This country exists because we exist and we came here from other places.


While true, it doesn't support the belief that immigration is good.

Had the native americans recognized the threat that immigrants posed earlier, things might have turned out a lot better for them.
 
2021-04-19 6:57:22 PM  

WastrelWay: This country is already full, like all the rest of them.


Is it now.

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2021-04-19 6:57:46 PM  

mcsiegs: White people don't want socialism unless it's ss benefits and Medicare.  Then, they don't want workers to keep those programs solvent.

Seriously though...without immigration, we fall.  The system we have built needs more people and the country can easily withstand a population surge in most areas.


Oh but, if we let others in, they might not look like us, they'll talk about us in another language, their food will be weird, and our kids will try to mingle with them.  And worst of all, they might not vote the way we tell them to.

Yes, I have heard all of the above, over the years.
 
2021-04-19 6:57:59 PM  
Not to mention how flat people's butts would be without a little spice in the gene pool.
 
2021-04-19 6:58:07 PM  

Ambitwistor: It's not that conservatives are against immigration, they just want wealthy educated white Anglo-Saxon Protestant immigrants and no brown people.



Since the "white" Anglo-Saxons Protestant were conquered by the Normal French in 1066, I am at a loss to see where they  have such charm for today.

Going back to Roman times, the Britons were subjugated, then the Angles, Jutes, and Saxons came, then the Normans, then the Dutch.  Various forms of Catholicism overtook pagan, then various Catholic powers rose and fell.

Then the Protestants and Catholics vollied for control.  Finally Henry VIII created a via media church that was the most catholic of the protestant churches.   Nope.  I still don't see where white anglo saxon protestant is anything to be aspired to.

After 1066, I don't see the Anglo-Saxon ex-artistocracy even getting into good schools.  They just went though a round of a decade of losing every bit of land they had ruled, piece by piece, in local courts, so they were really destitute.  So Wealth was just nostalgia.

Republicans must be smoking better weed than we knew about.
 
2021-04-19 6:59:06 PM  
Looks like there's plenty of room to me.

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