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2021-04-19 2:26:47 PM  
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2021-04-19 2:28:12 PM  
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2021-04-19 2:50:47 PM  
Are there any registered spies anywhere?
 
2021-04-19 2:51:44 PM  
The flimsiest excuse to mention one of the greatest shows in television history one more time.
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2021-04-19 2:52:25 PM  

casual disregard: Are there any registered spies anywhere?


probably just the freelancers.
 
2021-04-19 2:52:32 PM  
Russian spies use chemical weapons on your citizen : UK only deport them. Should have executed them like they farking deserve. Farking GRU trash. They are like russian isis death squads. No quarters.

Russian spies should all be hanged by the neck when caught.
 
2021-04-19 2:56:36 PM  

lolmao500: Russian spies use chemical weapons on your citizen : UK only deport them. Should have executed them like they farking deserve. Farking GRU trash. They are like russian isis death squads. No quarters.

Russian spies should all be hanged by the neck when caught.


When they do stuff like that? Yeah.

Normally unless they're doing damage you avoid going after every spy you know an adversary has, because then you're telling them what spies you don't know about.
 
2021-04-19 2:57:25 PM  
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of being a spy?
 
2021-04-19 2:57:52 PM  

Trocadero: The flimsiest excuse to mention one of the greatest shows in television history one more time.
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Is that Agent 99? She's not as cute in the reboot.
 
2021-04-19 2:59:28 PM  

casual disregard: Are there any registered spies anywhere?


Yes, lots. That's why we have the "registered foreign agent" laws that Flynn broke. Plus there's all the Assistant Deputy Cultural Attachés at the embassy.  It's probably just to have a hold on them while they're being further investigated.
 
2021-04-19 3:00:53 PM  

casual disregard: Are there any registered spies anywhere?


Embassies. OK, they'll be officially classified as analysts, case officers & attachés but it's pretty much de rigeur and long standing tradition not to outright say "These people we are sending to your country are spying on you". That's pretty much how embassies have worked for centuries.

Now who they are meeting or talking to... that's very much of of interest to the host government. Anyone passing information, knowingly or otherwise, to those holding a diplomatic post are subjects of interest & liable to a chat without tea & biscuits.
 
2021-04-19 3:01:05 PM  
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"Why didn't I think of that?"

(Note surprised face).

 
2021-04-19 3:02:13 PM  

ArkPanda: Yes, lots.


Shakes fist, pats pockets, scratches nose, then takes the third left street...
 
2021-04-19 3:03:57 PM  
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"In Soviet Russia, toaster take picture of YOU!"
 
2021-04-19 3:05:30 PM  

Aardvark Inc.: casual disregard: Are there any registered spies anywhere?

Embassies. OK, they'll be officially classified as analysts, case officers & attachés but it's pretty much de rigeur and long standing tradition not to outright say "These people we are sending to your country are spying on you". That's pretty much how embassies have worked for centuries.

Now who they are meeting or talking to... that's very much of of interest to the host government. Anyone passing information, knowingly or otherwise, to those holding a diplomatic post are subjects of interest & liable to a chat without tea & biscuits.


Going back to the show:
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2021-04-19 3:06:21 PM  

lolmao500: Russian spies use chemical weapons on your citizen : UK only deport them. Should have executed them like they farking deserve. Farking GRU trash. They are like russian isis death squads. No quarters.

Russian spies should all be hanged by the neck when caught.


You're conflating spies with assassins. They can be the same thing but they're usually not.

Spies are more like newspaper reporters with a non-public audience.
 
2021-04-19 3:06:27 PM  
Aardvark Inc.:

I lived overseas for about ten years, in the expat community it was extremely rare to meet embassy workers.

And everyone else was just doing their job, and most of the time you could pitch up in their workplace and get a guest pass for no reason other than you're stopping byntonsay hi.
 
2021-04-19 3:10:19 PM  

casual disregard: Are there any registered spies anywhere?


Well pretty much 3/4 of Embassy staffs

people working for ngo's / think tank in countries that designate their outfit as foreign agents.

Most Journalists

that coverers pretty much the vast majority of spies, the less then 1% of spies who have a actual title that says spy are probably not spying on anything but work in their own country at a desk job.
 
2021-04-19 3:13:11 PM  
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2021-04-19 3:13:29 PM  
I was led to believe that spies were like librarians.  They just collected more esoteric information.  They weren't even analysts.  Analysts ended up on submarines pinging Lithuanians from Vilnius.
 
2021-04-19 3:16:07 PM  
Wanted for questioning
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2021-04-19 3:23:59 PM  

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2021-04-19 3:32:37 PM  

lolmao500: Russian spies use chemical weapons on your citizen : UK only deport them. Should have executed them like they farking deserve. Farking GRU trash. They are like russian isis death squads. No quarters.

Russian spies should all be hanged by the neck when caught.


Any spy agency worth its bugs would assume any returned agent is a double agent, and has turned over info to their captors. So they're as good as dead.
 
2021-04-19 3:34:01 PM  

Trocadero: Aardvark Inc.: casual disregard: Are there any registered spies anywhere?

Embassies. OK, they'll be officially classified as analysts, case officers & attachés but it's pretty much de rigeur and long standing tradition not to outright say "These people we are sending to your country are spying on you". That's pretty much how embassies have worked for centuries.

Now who they are meeting or talking to... that's very much of of interest to the host government. Anyone passing information, knowingly or otherwise, to those holding a diplomatic post are subjects of interest & liable to a chat without tea & biscuits.

Going back to the show:
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Good show, and two of my favorite characters.

/poor nina
 
2021-04-19 3:46:00 PM  

Embden.Meyerhof: Trocadero: Aardvark Inc.: casual disregard: Are there any registered spies anywhere?

Embassies. OK, they'll be officially classified as analysts, case officers & attachés but it's pretty much de rigeur and long standing tradition not to outright say "These people we are sending to your country are spying on you". That's pretty much how embassies have worked for centuries.

Now who they are meeting or talking to... that's very much of of interest to the host government. Anyone passing information, knowingly or otherwise, to those holding a diplomatic post are subjects of interest & liable to a chat without tea & biscuits.

Going back to the show:
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Good show, and two of my favorite characters.

/poor nina


I couldn't bring myself to post a pic of Nina. That one still hurts, even though you could see it coming. That's how well made that show was; you're still shocked by the most obvious outcome.
 
2021-04-19 3:46:52 PM  

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2021-04-19 3:58:19 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Any spy agency worth its bugs would assume any returned agent is a double agent, and has turned over info to their captors. So they're as good as dead.


The two men accused of the Salisbury poisonings were never caught by the security services... they left the UK and were back in Russia shortly after carrying out the attack. It was only afterwards that the police & security services pieced together the timeline, actions & identified the suspects.

So... the guys who did it - and lets be honest, we all know they did it - are 'burned', but this was always a possibility so now they are feted back in their homeland.
 
2021-04-19 4:15:48 PM  
About time.
They should have to pay they're spy tax like the rest of us.
 
2021-04-19 4:23:29 PM  

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Thanks. Now I want to do this.
 
2021-04-19 4:31:44 PM  
Reminds me of an old Agent Orange song:

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2021-04-19 4:36:21 PM  

AuralArgument: Aardvark Inc.:

I lived overseas for about ten years, in the expat community it was extremely rare to meet embassy workers.

And everyone else was just doing their job, and most of the time you could pitch up in their workplace and get a guest pass for no reason other than you're stopping byntonsay hi.


Not sure I follow. Why is it rare?
 
2021-04-19 4:39:04 PM  
I would think 10% is a high number.
 
2021-04-19 4:43:09 PM  
Resident Muslim:

The government types have their own community. Many have worked together before or have with someone they each know.
 
2021-04-19 4:59:49 PM  

Trocadero: The flimsiest excuse to mention one of the greatest shows in television history one more time.
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Amen. To the fantastic opening with Fleetwood Mac's Tusk, to the incredibly tight and satisfying end, this show never let up, left you confused about who to root for, succeeded where so many series failed.
 
2021-04-19 5:24:44 PM  
Not sure why this gets a facepalm tag. For one it requires people to register if they are "working" for a foreign government, not just spies or assassins. Many would be doing stuff that is otherwise perfectly legal. And making it an offence just means that if and when we catch anyone we have something we can charge them with so we can keep them in custody. Without this law we'd have to just let them walk.
 
2021-04-19 5:40:45 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Any spy agency worth its bugs would assume any returned agent is a double agent, and has turned over info to their captors. So they're as good as dead.


Nah not necessarily.  Spies get caught sometimes.  If you abandon or execute your spies that got caught, you lose out on people willing to work as spies.

The U.S. caught Maria Butina, then traded her to Russia for our own spies.  Russia didn't execute her.  Instead, they give her a sinecure.
 
2021-04-19 8:09:52 PM  

casual disregard: Are there any registered spies anywhere?


Yes, as counterintuitive as that seems. Spy agencies that collaborate (like the CIA and MI6) register spies with each other. Most modern spy work is done from behind a computer screen, so keeping their identities secret isn't a top priority either.
 
2021-04-19 8:19:26 PM  
Other than North Koreans, I don't see many falling for this.
 
2021-04-20 3:57:33 PM  

MLWS: Trocadero: The flimsiest excuse to mention one of the greatest shows in television history one more time.
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Amen. To the fantastic opening with Fleetwood Mac's Tusk, to the incredibly tight and satisfying end, this show never let up, left you confused about who to root for, succeeded where so many series failed.


Why is it that whenever somebody references a show with a picture the name of the show is never given? Even by folks responding to the post. Am I just not good enough to be in the "in" crowd? Which is quite likely...
 
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