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(The New York Times)   NYC is expanding the Javits Center "just in time to see the absolute collapse of the convention and trade show business," says pessimist who thinks it will be 2020 for the next 25 years   (nytimes.com) divider line
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2021-04-19 12:30:55 PM  
I'm seeing a ton of corporate events quickly being scheduled again for the second half of this year and beyond.

So many people thought the pandemic would "kill" so many things -- offices, movie theaters, conferences, trade shows, and so on. They all say, "You do it all online for cheap or free."

But people like that are like economists and procurement departments. They know the cost of everything but the value of nothing. It's human nature to want all those things. And human nature is going to make up for lost time later this year and next year.
 
2021-04-19 7:38:49 PM  
I hope conventions aren't dead. I gotta get in one more. For the road.
 
2021-04-19 8:01:51 PM  

bostonguy: I'm seeing a ton of corporate events quickly being scheduled again for the second half of this year and beyond.

So many people thought the pandemic would "kill" so many things -- offices, movie theaters, conferences, trade shows, and so on. They all say, "You do it all online for cheap or free."

But people like that are like economists and procurement departments. They know the cost of everything but the value of nothing. It's human nature to want all those things. And human nature is going to make up for lost time later this year and next year.


I got an invite to a late July client event earlier today.  I was really hoping these would have gone away tbh.

/I forwarded it to my wife with my comment.
//AAAAAAAAAAH
///Stupid neurotypicals...  and there's someone on my local subreddit telling everyone they don't need to mask up if they get vaccinated.
 
2021-04-19 8:31:11 PM  
Four down quarters in a row, we're DOOMED, DOOMED I SAY!
 
2021-04-19 8:44:30 PM  
I'm getting my shots, biatches, and then I'm hitting the God damned road.
 
2021-04-19 8:46:18 PM  
With my mask on.
 
2021-04-19 9:12:12 PM  

baronbloodbath: I hope conventions aren't dead. I gotta get in one more. For the road.


I want them around for all eternity. I like them along with festivals.
 
2021-04-19 9:24:22 PM  
Vegas is gonna suffer a lot from conventions going online, IMO.
 
2021-04-19 9:29:12 PM  
Yeah we banked a ton of Boston's bond future on the Seaport convention center.  Good thing we have that Biotech to pick up the pandemic slack...
 
2021-04-19 9:29:52 PM  
Would have been a great time for the federal government to fund every BRT program on the drawing board. No traffic to get in the way, nobody to care that parking was getting torn out.
 
2021-04-19 9:46:03 PM  

king of vegas: Vegas is gonna suffer a lot from conventions going online, IMO.


I don't know. I usually do 3-4 trade shows/conferences a year (company does more) and we've done I think 3 virtual ones in the last year and they suuuucccckkk. Just no response, no interaction, no useful results at all. Maybe some companies will realize they don't need them at all, but I think they'll come back big for a while anyway.
 
2021-04-19 10:18:45 PM  
Corporate and government business travel is generally a time-consuming, exhausting hassle for the travelers (unless they're senior management and can get reimbursed for first-class). 2020 demonstrated that the travel is more expensive than it's normally worth to the firm unless the traveler is a specialist whose services are required to install or maintain equipment that isn't easily moved (such as in a remote mine).

At best.

At worst, it's a scam designed to allow top brass to deduct vacations from the firm's tax bill.

Yes, I know, the human touch. No decisions involving billions of dollars and the lives of millions ought to be made in a hotel bar by drunk people saying yes to bad deals so they can go to their rooms and pass out in peace. So there.
 
2021-04-19 10:19:28 PM  
It's going to be a long time before places like NY are back to normal and ready to host massive conferences. Texas and Florida? Sure, their culture is to stupidly open and be "free." NYC, DC, and LA though? They're going to be masking for years, even if/when COVID is down below the old flu numbers, which is probably just as nonsensical.

I regularly talk to people in their 30s and 40s who, at least for now, say they plan to wear masks in public forever. Conferences, cruises, large indoor gatherings aren't coming back for those people. Their kids are never going back to public school.

The culture of this country has completely split in half over masking. We're never going back to the way it was.
 
2021-04-19 10:34:58 PM  

dukeblue219: It's going to be a long time before places like NY are back to normal and ready to host massive conferences. Texas and Florida? Sure, their culture is to stupidly open and be "free." NYC, DC, and LA though? They're going to be masking for years, even if/when COVID is down below the old flu numbers, which is probably just as nonsensical.

I regularly talk to people in their 30s and 40s who, at least for now, say they plan to wear masks in public forever. Conferences, cruises, large indoor gatherings aren't coming back for those people. Their kids are never going back to public school.

The culture of this country has completely split in half over masking. We're never going back to the way it was.


American society has the memory retention of a gold fish.

I remember after 9/11, pundits claimed society would be forever changed.
 
2021-04-19 10:35:13 PM  
The death of conventions? Maybe some trade shows here and there, probably not though because everyone loves a good live demo. Fandom cons? Maker cons? Nah, you can't keep us from arguing about characters, theory crafting character builds in tabletop or video games, or demoing our over-complicated probably one-off inventions in a crowd under normal circumstances.

Tangent: Speaking of conventions, I do hope a lot of us normalize the idea of wearing a mask when we're sick or just feel like crap. It seems like every year except 2020, for reasons, there's at least one or two notable instances of "con flu" I hear about. Going outside and meeting people is fine when we don't have space-plague to worry about, but let's take some active measures to avoid sharing our regular lung-cooties, too.

As someone who didn't even get the option to avoid people, it was a real silver lining to the shiatstorm that was 2020 that I didn't so much as catch a cold for the entire year. While a lot of people just fought every precaution tooth and nail, it seems like enough in my vicinity caught on to enough measures that basically nothing but Covid got passed around.
 
2021-04-19 10:46:40 PM  
New York State, not City, subby, unless I missed something in the article. If you're ever there you'll note the State Troopers.
 
2021-04-19 10:48:38 PM  
Having a close relative and several friends in the industry, I hope they get their jobs back soon.

Yeah, it's mostly a scam. Executives moving around the world having meetings instead of doing anything productive. Sales people hawking their wares, hoping to make connections.

The only downside is so many of those executives back in the office for extended stays doing stupid shiat because they need to show some kind of output and/or put their fingerprints on things to show the company needs them.  Which, hopefully, companies will figure out that they don't need a Vice President of Looking Busy anymore.
 
2021-04-20 12:03:23 AM  
I still can't believe I'm never been to the auto show at the Javits. Probably the only convention I have any interest in.
 
2021-04-20 12:18:30 AM  
I work for a company that makes money off face-to-face sales and convention advertising. This shiat ain't dead by a long shot.
 
2021-04-20 1:32:43 AM  
Next year we will be back to normal. Scheduling a convention for December is well within reason. This summer is too soon, but a normal economy should return this Fall.

Of course, the USA's pandemic repsonse was basically just loans. So theya re farked, and can't actually rehire as many people as were unemployed. It will be interesting to see how much of the stimulus is grants instead of something that needs to be paid back.
 
2021-04-20 2:09:57 AM  

baronbloodbath: I hope conventions aren't dead. I gotta get in one more. For the road.


I'm going to all the pinball conventions I can after I get both vaccines.

/Still going to wear a mask though
 
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