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(Five Thirty-Eight)   The "nones" are nearly as large a part of our country as Catholics or Evangelicals   (fivethirtyeight.com) divider line
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2021-04-19 10:08:45 AM  
Pastafarian convents are full of nones.
 
2021-04-19 10:23:03 AM  
When the 1st open atheist is elected to national office progress will be started. Religious nutters are over represented in Congress but rational people don't even have one.
 
2021-04-19 10:26:17 AM  

eurotrader: When the 1st open atheist is elected to national office progress will be started. Religious nutters are over represented in Congress but rational people don't even have one.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism​_​in_the_United_States#Public_officials
 
2021-04-19 10:30:48 AM  
Fairy tales are seldom a good basis for governmental policy making.

Maybe there's hope for the country after all.
 
2021-04-19 10:46:36 AM  

SpectroBoy: Pastafarian convents are full of nones.


Ramen
 
2021-04-19 10:54:53 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Fairy tales are seldom a good basis for governmental policy making.
Maybe there's hope for the country after all.


I am going to tell the invisible sky daddy wizard that you said that!
 
2021-04-19 11:05:58 AM  

eurotrader: When the 1st open atheist is elected to national office progress will be started. Religious nutters are over represented in Congress but rational people don't even have one.


You're missing a lot of middle ground: those who believe in a greater power but reject the middleman of religion and all it's abuses.
 
2021-04-19 11:29:08 AM  

edmo: eurotrader: When the 1st open atheist is elected to national office progress will be started. Religious nutters are over represented in Congress but rational people don't even have one.

You're missing a lot of middle ground: those who believe in a greater power but reject the middleman of religion and all it's abuses.


That sounds like something a friend of Bill would say. If it works for you it is good.
 
2021-04-19 11:36:50 AM  
..and the more they tighten their grip, the more souls will slip through their fingers.
 
2021-04-19 11:37:17 AM  
Y'all are going to hell.
 
2021-04-19 11:38:05 AM  
What do we want? Nothing!

When do we want it? It doesn't matter!
 
2021-04-19 11:39:06 AM  
Church of Universal Love and Music
 
2021-04-19 11:39:48 AM  
That's what happens when you shine a spot light.
 
2021-04-19 11:39:53 AM  
21 percent of Americans describe their religious beliefs as "nothing in particular."

So, what some members of my family would describe as "spiritual". Still superstitious and not particularly trusting of or friendly to those who are truly a "none".
 
2021-04-19 11:40:05 AM  
Looks like the nones are on the run.
 
2021-04-19 11:40:15 AM  
Religion is over-represented in Congress.

It has ever been thus but it is getting especially irksome these days.
 
2021-04-19 11:40:44 AM  
really, have you checked the Supreme Court
 
2021-04-19 11:41:14 AM  
So how to we organize and get rid of our taxes? Do we have to rape some children or something?
 
2021-04-19 11:41:56 AM  
Good. The sooner religion is removed from public life / decision-making the better.
 
2021-04-19 11:42:22 AM  
England's 4th largest religion is Jedi..
 
2021-04-19 11:42:50 AM  

Subtonic: Y'all are going to hell.


Can't be worse than Fark
 
2021-04-19 11:44:06 AM  
Then why are there seven Catholics on the Supreme Court?
 
2021-04-19 11:46:22 AM  

Subtonic: Y'all are going to hell.


Or...
Nones Like it Hot!
 
2021-04-19 11:46:28 AM  

Subtonic: Y'all are going to hell.


The biggest downside to being an atheist is I have no venue to say "I told you so."
 
2021-04-19 11:46:40 AM  

Ishkur: Then why are there seven Catholics on the Supreme Court?


Because you need ten for a minion?
 
2021-04-19 11:46:45 AM  

Metastatic Capricorn: 21 percent of Americans describe their religious beliefs as "nothing in particular."

So, what some members of my family would describe as "spiritual". Still superstitious and not particularly trusting of or friendly to those who are truly a "none".


The people who still consider themselves culturally evangelical but don't go to church supported Trump even more than the churchgoers.
 
2021-04-19 11:49:33 AM  
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2021-04-19 11:50:34 AM  

12349876: The people who still consider themselves culturally evangelical but don't go to church supported Trump even more than the churchgoers.


Yeah, and while I love hearing this news, Q is growing by the day. Religion looks pretty sane compared to Q...and I can't believe I just wrote that.
 
2021-04-19 11:50:37 AM  
This should be deeply concerning to the Republican Party. Not because so many of lost faith, because without that religion aspect to frighten voters the Republicans would have to rely on solid policies and governance. Two things the Republicans are incapable of achieving.
 
2021-04-19 11:50:39 AM  

Metastatic Capricorn: 21 percent of Americans describe their religious beliefs as "nothing in particular."

So, what some members of my family would describe as "spiritual". Still superstitious and not particularly trusting of or friendly to those who are truly a "none".


Also, in that 21%, how many are vaguely Christian in theology? I suspect more than half.

// the same way the American concept of "religion" is itself almost indistinguishable from Christian theology - the white robes, angels with halos, Latin as "sacred" (or demonic) language, crosses always have mystical power in our myths, the goddamn cruciform pose in all our visual media...
 
2021-04-19 11:51:06 AM  
Actually there's probably a big corelation to the anti-masker and nones.

Religious god-fearing people would get around to blaming god for the pandemic, pleading with god, accepting they have little control, take the pandemic to be a test and ultimately wear a mask.  They would also stay the hell away from large crowds, including churches.

The ex-religious, no longer god-fearing would blame the government for frivolously making them wear a mask, and keep them from going to church or exercizing their right to profit from religion.
 
2021-04-19 11:51:23 AM  

Subtonic: Y'all are going to hell.


That's ok. that's where all my friends will be anyway.
And heaven is going to be full of self-righteous pricks anyway.
 
2021-04-19 11:51:45 AM  

KiwDaWabbit: Looks like the nones are on the run.


nonesense!
 
2021-04-19 11:54:56 AM  

I Ate Shergar: eurotrader: When the 1st open atheist is elected to national office progress will be started. Religious nutters are over represented in Congress but rational people don't even have one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism_​in_the_United_States#Public_officials


Krysten Sinema was supposed to be one of those, but I guess she lied about that too.
 
2021-04-19 11:55:25 AM  

BitwiseShift: Religious god-fearing people would get around to blaming god for the pandemic, pleading with god, accepting they have little control, take the pandemic to be a test and ultimately wear a mask.  They would also stay the hell away from large crowds, including churches


I see you are entirely unfamiliar with the American public.
 
2021-04-19 11:56:11 AM  
Good. Adherence to a religion leads to dogma, which leads to ignoring objective reality. Sooner that sh*t ends the sooner we can fix some fundamentally broken stuff.
 
2021-04-19 11:58:16 AM  
Something believe the unbelievable something something do the unthinkable.
 
2021-04-19 11:58:22 AM  

I Ate Shergar: eurotrader: When the 1st open atheist is elected to national office progress will be started. Religious nutters are over represented in Congress but rational people don't even have one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism_​in_the_United_States#Public_officials


One US Rep.
A couple of state legislators
One city council member.

Were you trying to refute the claim that religion is over-represented?
 
2021-04-19 11:58:26 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Fairy tales are seldom a good basis for governmental policy making.

Maybe there's hope for the country after all.


We should go back to moistened bints lobbing scimitars.
 
2021-04-19 11:58:28 AM  
Despite all efforts to the contrary, reason might be returning to America. Some good news, for a change.
 
2021-04-19 12:00:08 PM  
Seeing how they've acted over the last four years with the bulk of themselves tying their horses to the embodiment of what Christianity is not supposed to be, I'm surprised it's not more.   I'm willing to be there's a bunch of nomads out there who still believe in a higher power but refuse to be lumped in with these hypocritical, uneducated charlatans which hijacked the faith.
 
2021-04-19 12:00:33 PM  

chuggernaught: This should be deeply concerning to the Republican Party. Not because so many of lost faith, because without that religion aspect to frighten voters the Republicans would have to rely on solid policies and governance. Two things the Republicans are incapable of achieving.


They're replacing established religions with modern conspiracies.
 
2021-04-19 12:01:52 PM  
The Bible instructs its followers to treat women as second class citizens, and to take people from other ethnic groups and own them as property.

Unlike a lot of Christians, I have serious problems with this.  However, if God wants me to be ok with it, then He knows what will convince me, and He has the power to persuade me.

For some reason, He hasn't done so.

I wonder why.
 
2021-04-19 12:04:48 PM  
A surprising number of Jordan Peterson slash Lobster fiction fans, race realists, and other sciency sounding horseshiat euphemisms for regular ol' nazism are non-believers.


That's how badly Evangelicals have farked up in pushing their ignorant god damned religious beliefs into politics.
 
2021-04-19 12:07:22 PM  

jaytkay: I Ate Shergar: eurotrader: When the 1st open atheist is elected to national office progress will be started. Religious nutters are over represented in Congress but rational people don't even have one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism_​in_the_United_States#Public_officials

One US Rep.
A couple of state legislators
One city council member.

Were you trying to refute the claim that religion is over-represented?


Not at all. Just the claim that there hasn't ever been an atheist elected to national office.
 
2021-04-19 12:08:10 PM  

eurotrader: When the 1st open atheist is elected to national office progress will be started. Religious nutters are over represented in Congress but rational people don't even have one.


The fact you think religious people and rational people are two separate groups is telling.
 
2021-04-19 12:08:31 PM  
I'd guess the "nones" are considerably larger than that.

Very few would put "none" because of cultural reasons or tradition.

Lots and lots of people put "Catholic" because of family tradition, even if they attend no Catholic services, hold no Catholic beliefs, and worship no Catholic God.

"Lapsed Catholic" usually actually means "my parents were Catholic".
 
2021-04-19 12:12:23 PM  
Most people don't take kindly when you try to enforce your personal beliefs through law-making, and punish the rest of society in the name of "religious persecution."
 
2021-04-19 12:14:23 PM  
He said "nones," not "nuns!" You misread the sign!

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Get on with it!

Get on with it!
 
2021-04-19 12:14:54 PM  

transporter_ii: 12349876: The people who still consider themselves culturally evangelical but don't go to church supported Trump even more than the churchgoers.

Yeah, and while I love hearing this news, Q is growing by the day. Religion looks pretty sane compared to Q...and I can't believe I just wrote that.


And that's what the so-called "free-thinkers" don't get: people have a need to believe in something.  If you get rid of religion, people are just going to find something less rational to believe in. Something that doesn't have thousands of years of institutional learning and structure. That usually works out for the worse.
 
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