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2021-04-19 3:59:33 AM  
Trump got the vaccine

//Can't they be more like Trump ?
 
2021-04-19 4:59:20 AM  

AlgaeRancher: Trump got the vaccine

//Can't they be more like Trump ?


Given that the Trumq Qultists went completely ape when Ivanka Trumq made her vaccination public, the answer to that seems to be 'no.'

Darwin will be visiting a lot of Trump Humpers in the foreseeable future.
 
2021-04-19 5:12:11 AM  
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/it's our only hope then
 
2021-04-19 5:25:43 AM  
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2021-04-19 5:36:30 AM  
For the current variant maybe. Every other article lately is about vaccinated people getting sick or how the current vaccine is useless against what is coming out of countries that will never reach herd immunity.

It is here to stay folks. Either continue to hide or adapt to the new sad reality.

/I am four days away from my second shot and I am nervous after watching my wife deal with the side affects for more than 5 days now.
 
2021-04-19 5:41:27 AM  

gimlet: For the current variant maybe. Every other article lately is about vaccinated people getting sick or how the current vaccine is useless against what is coming out of countries that will never reach herd immunity.

It is here to stay folks. Either continue to hide or adapt to the new sad reality.

/I am four days away from my second shot and I am nervous after watching my wife deal with the side affects for more than 5 days now.


You sound concerned.

/The side effects are something called an "immune response", and it's what you want to happen. Your wife got over it a couple of days ago and is just malingering.
 
2021-04-19 5:52:20 AM  
want non-vaxxers vaccinated? refuse to let them renew their driver's license or get a tax refund, something of this nature. that will put their ass in line. at least some.
 
2021-04-19 5:54:30 AM  

MrBallou: gimlet: For the current variant maybe. Every other article lately is about vaccinated people getting sick or how the current vaccine is useless against what is coming out of countries that will never reach herd immunity.

It is here to stay folks. Either continue to hide or adapt to the new sad reality.

/I am four days away from my second shot and I am nervous after watching my wife deal with the side affects for more than 5 days now.

You sound concerned.

/The side effects are something called an "immune response", and it's what you want to happen. Your wife got over it a couple of days ago and is just malingering.


Why shouldn't I be concerned?  There are NO guarantees.  Two weeks after I get the shot I am attempting to restart my life again with sensible precautions.  Articles like this have convinced me that there is no point to hiding any longer.

/good luck
 
2021-04-19 6:20:48 AM  
We're dependent on Trumpers to do the right thing. So there is no hope then.
 
2021-04-19 6:21:03 AM  
Eventually we need to make a societal decision of when vaccination becomes mandatory or else just accept perpetual precautions and never returning to anything close to normal.

I'm of the belief that you just hold 'em down and do it. Let the courts take months to sort it out. That's plenty of time to get a few million shots in arms. F*** their feelings and their dumbass view of rights.
 
2021-04-19 6:32:30 AM  
So trumper-leaning areas will continue to be looked at as plague-ridden dens of illiteracy to be avoided.

Businesses will leave, and eventually we will need walls around those areas. Maybe mexico will help pay for them.
 
2021-04-19 6:40:41 AM  

WalkingSedgwick: AlgaeRancher:
Darwin will be visiting a lot of Trump Humpers in the foreseeable future.


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2021-04-19 6:48:02 AM  

gimlet: For the current variant maybe. Every other article lately is about vaccinated people getting sick or how the current vaccine is useless against what is coming out of countries that will never reach herd immunity.

It is here to stay folks. Either continue to hide or adapt to the new sad reality.

/I am four days away from my second shot and I am nervous after watching my wife deal with the side affects for more than 5 days now.


Not knowing your or your wife's age or physical disposition, all I can offer is hope.
It does seem as though a certain mixture of the population is becoming more affected by the vaccination than others, but that long term (months) the efficacy seems better.

And she won't be inclined to vote for trump, so long term prospects seem to incline also.

Good luck...my number 2 is in 1 week.
Moderna.
 
2021-04-19 6:56:58 AM  

MrBallou: gimlet: For the current variant maybe. Every other article lately is about vaccinated people getting sick or how the current vaccine is useless against what is coming out of countries that will never reach herd immunity.

It is here to stay folks. Either continue to hide or adapt to the new sad reality.

/I am four days away from my second shot and I am nervous after watching my wife deal with the side affects for more than 5 days now.

You sound concerned.

/The side effects are something called an "immune response", and it's what you want to happen. Your wife got over it a couple of days ago and is just malingering.


I talk a lot about "the tall man principle." That I'm tall and able to get things off high shelves doesn't make me any better than short people. I just got a lucky break with genes. Same thing with good health, quick recovery times, no allergies... Being fortunate with good health doesn't make us any better than the people that seem to catch every bug and allergy going around, we just got a good spin with gene roulette. That some of us had mild or no vaccine reaction doesn't mean it's not a very real issue for others. We just got lucky.
 
2021-04-19 6:56:59 AM  
The weird thing is that he got the shot, told everyone to get a shot, and now he's a "New York Liberal"
 
2021-04-19 7:03:42 AM  
That's playing out where I live.  We recently ventured outside out liberal college town bubble, and within 15 minutes of home, were deep in Trumplandia.  Here, you have to make appointments to get your vaccine because of demand, but outside our county?  No appointments necessary, walk-ins welcome.  And they have excess supply because few people are coming in to get them.
 
2021-04-19 7:03:59 AM  
It's easy to blame Trump, his party and Fox for their constant stream of misinformation that put us in this situation with the virus and vaccines--and they certainly are each culpable. But a bigger problem is local media outlets across the country that still aren't pushing back to educate their populations on what's happened and how we can repair the damage.
 
2021-04-19 7:07:47 AM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Eventually we need to make a societal decision of when vaccination becomes mandatory or else just accept perpetual precautions and never returning to anything close to normal.

I'm of the belief that you just hold 'em down and do it. Let the courts take months to sort it out. That's plenty of time to get a few million shots in arms. F*** their feelings and their dumbass view of rights.


I think it'll become de facto mandatory eventually thanks to various companies making continued employment or travel contingent on it. Even then, that'll likely only impact a few of the really stubborn people (since Americans pretty much know we f*cked up big time and want to move on from our shame ASAP).

/maybe next pandemic we'll actually have a national lockdown with consequences, fearing a repeat of Covid-19
//or even keep it from reaching the US in large enough numbers in the first place.
 
2021-04-19 7:16:40 AM  

jimjays: MrBallou: gimlet: For the current variant maybe. Every other article lately is about vaccinated people getting sick or how the current vaccine is useless against what is coming out of countries that will never reach herd immunity.

It is here to stay folks. Either continue to hide or adapt to the new sad reality.

/I am four days away from my second shot and I am nervous after watching my wife deal with the side affects for more than 5 days now.

You sound concerned.

/The side effects are something called an "immune response", and it's what you want to happen. Your wife got over it a couple of days ago and is just malingering.

I talk a lot about "the tall man principle." That I'm tall and able to get things off high shelves doesn't make me any better than short people. I just got a lucky break with genes. Same thing with good health, quick recovery times, no allergies... Being fortunate with good health doesn't make us any better than the people that seem to catch every bug and allergy going around, we just got a good spin with gene roulette. That some of us had mild or no vaccine reaction doesn't mean it's not a very real issue for others. We just got lucky.


I got my second Pfizer shot yesterday.  The injection area is more sore than after the first and I am a bit achy all over.   It isn't too bad.
 
2021-04-19 7:28:12 AM  

WalkingSedgwick: AlgaeRancher: Trump got the vaccine

//Can't they be more like Trump ?

Given that the Trumq Qultists went completely ape when Ivanka Trumq made her vaccination public, the answer to that seems to be 'no.'

Darwin will be visiting a lot of Trump Humpers in the foreseeable future.


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2021-04-19 7:32:27 AM  
Isolate them and if they get out of isolation shoot them with darts filled with vaccine so they get vaccinated wither they like it or not. If they want to act like spoiled children then treat them as such. It's either that or live with COVID because these freaks don't want to do the proper things with vaccinations and prevent with masks, social distancing, etc.
 
2021-04-19 7:35:20 AM  

sinko swimo: want non-vaxxers vaccinated? refuse to let them renew their driver's license or get a tax refund, something of this nature. that will put their ass in line. at least some.


Your jib: I like the cut of it. A law like what you are envisioning has no realistic hope of ever getting passed because of our numb-nuts Republicans, but that doesn't change the fact that I like your ideas.
 
2021-04-19 7:39:04 AM  
Us vaccinate people in Bedford county, PA are fine if the rest just die off
 
2021-04-19 7:41:21 AM  

Muta: jimjays: MrBallou: gimlet: For the current variant maybe. Every other article lately is about vaccinated people getting sick or how the current vaccine is useless against what is coming out of countries that will never reach herd immunity.

It is here to stay folks. Either continue to hide or adapt to the new sad reality.

/I am four days away from my second shot and I am nervous after watching my wife deal with the side affects for more than 5 days now.

You sound concerned.

/The side effects are something called an "immune response", and it's what you want to happen. Your wife got over it a couple of days ago and is just malingering.

I talk a lot about "the tall man principle." That I'm tall and able to get things off high shelves doesn't make me any better than short people. I just got a lucky break with genes. Same thing with good health, quick recovery times, no allergies... Being fortunate with good health doesn't make us any better than the people that seem to catch every bug and allergy going around, we just got a good spin with gene roulette. That some of us had mild or no vaccine reaction doesn't mean it's not a very real issue for others. We just got lucky.

I got my second Pfizer shot yesterday.  The injection area is more sore than after the first and I am a bit achy all over.   It isn't too bad.


It's funny how that works. I had no side effects  other than my arm was pretty sore after the first Pfizer poke, next to nothing after the second. (I joked that maybe they'd given me a placebo the second time.)  I'm wondering if the arm soreness--maybe some other side effects--depends on the technique of who gives the shot, maybe the deepness or specific location. ( I don't mind any of them, but have certainly noticed differing comfort levels with various flu vaccinations and blood draws over the years...)
 
2021-04-19 7:49:31 AM  
And now we've moved on to "getting infected to own the libs".  I'm fine with this.  Lung scarring proves your commitment to The Leader.
 
2021-04-19 7:49:42 AM  
I keep asking all my Trumper coworkers why they do not trust the vaccine Trump worked so hard to get, sonce they always give him credit.  The mentapl gymnastics are incredible.
 
2021-04-19 7:56:01 AM  
Before Trump I was pointing out that Republicans have inflicted more damage on the US than any foreign enemy since 1945. Trumpanzees are now running up the score.
 
2021-04-19 8:09:42 AM  
If we have to depend on red states/counties/cities to reach herd immunity, America is farked.
 
2021-04-19 8:10:09 AM  

AlgaeRancher: Trump got the vaccine

//Can't they be more like Trump ?


Nope, they be dumber then trump
 
2021-04-19 8:12:27 AM  
Either take responsibility in the society that you choose to live in and benefit from, or get the fark out.
 
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2021-04-19 8:15:52 AM  
You mean the life expectancy of ignorant, rural communities that largely vote conservative is about to drop precipitously? Oh no! Anyway...
 
2021-04-19 8:16:53 AM  
Give away a free ar15 with every vaccination.
 
2021-04-19 8:19:10 AM  
Lower-left quadrant people of Real America:

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2021-04-19 8:34:56 AM  
I've been saying that for months. It's not the first 100 million that's the challenge - it's the last 100 million, the third of American adults who "definitely or probably" won't get vaccinated against COVID-19.

Without them, there is no herd immunity. They will continue to make themselves and others sick, even those who took the time to be vaccinated, and continue to ensure 80K+ new cases a day.

Our government is going to go from asking to ordering fairly soon, because they have to - there's no third way, it seems.
 
2021-04-19 8:40:43 AM  
So, 30% vaccinated, less than 50% voted for Trump, so what about the other 20%?  And that's assuming that 100% of Trump voters don't get vaccinated.  Given than polls that I have seen state that roughly 50% of Trump voters don't want the vaccine, that number goes up to about 40-45% that say they "would" get the vaccine, but haven't.  Quit making everything political.  The fact of the matter is that most right-leaning people live in rural communities.  Most rural communities haven't seen the mass outbreaks like large cities have, and so they don't see the big danger.  Given that, it's reasonable to assume that they just don't see the need for a vaccine that is getting a lot of negative attention, whether rightfully or not.  At the same time, when the same people who "fact check" someone's observation that something they witnessed did not happen is quite fervently pushing the vaccine, even more people will be reluctant to get it.  After all, if I can be called a liar because I posted something that I saw with my own two eyes, then why should I trust the people calling me a liar?
And no, I wasn't the one who was "fact checked."  A friend of my wife's was.
 
2021-04-19 8:43:06 AM  

FormlessOne: I've been saying that for months. It's not the first 100 million that's the challenge - it's the last 100 million, the third of American adults who "definitely or probably" won't get vaccinated against COVID-19.

Without them, there is no herd immunity. They will continue to make themselves and others sick, even those who took the time to be vaccinated, and continue to ensure 80K+ new cases a day.

Our government is going to go from asking to ordering fairly soon, because they have to - there's no third way, it seems.


Dear people of planet earth.  Scientist did not invent herd immunity.  It will happen one way or another.
Although it would be nice if not so many people have to get sick or die!
Get your vaccine and remove yourself from the sick or die category and move on with life.
 
2021-04-19 8:44:15 AM  
I live in Forsyth County, GA, a red county, and per an article posted here that show how resistant people are to getting vaxxed my county is one of the most willing to get vaxxed.

I got Pfizer shot 2 on Saturday afternoon and it kicked my ass.  Had a 102.4 fever all day yesterday and every joint in my body felt like someone hit them with a hammer.  Aspirin would knock the fever down and it came right back.  Woke up half an hour ago, fully clothed, and my clothes are damp and I still feel like hell.

And I'd do it again.
 
2021-04-19 8:52:28 AM  

sinko swimo: want non-vaxxers vaccinated? refuse to let them renew their driver's license or get a tax refund, something of this nature. that will put their ass in line. at least some.


Then they will scream "my freedumbs" and buy fake vaccine cards.
 
2021-04-19 8:52:59 AM  

1funguy: gimlet: For the current variant maybe. Every other article lately is about vaccinated people getting sick or how the current vaccine is useless against what is coming out of countries that will never reach herd immunity.

It is here to stay folks. Either continue to hide or adapt to the new sad reality.

/I am four days away from my second shot and I am nervous after watching my wife deal with the side affects for more than 5 days now.

Not knowing your or your wife's age or physical disposition, all I can offer is hope.
It does seem as though a certain mixture of the population is becoming more affected by the vaccination than others, but that long term (months) the efficacy seems better.

And she won't be inclined to vote for trump, so long term prospects seem to incline also.

Good luck...my number 2 is in 1 week.
Moderna.


I'm over 65 and in fairly good health. The side effects of my second Moderna shot were lethargy, headache, a few chills and elevated temp (101.7) during the night which decreased over the following day and were gone by the next night. I drank a lot of water, since I'd heard that helps...who knows, but it didn't hurt me. They said I could take Tylenol, but the symptoms weren't something I couldn't deal with, so I just toughed it out...wanted to see how bad it got, which was "not very"

Good luck!
 
2021-04-19 8:55:14 AM  

winedrinkingman: I keep asking all my Trumper coworkers why they do not trust the vaccine Trump worked so hard to get, sonce they always give him credit.  The mentapl gymnastics are incredible.


Yeah. The only reasonable response I get for not getting the shot is because it hasn't been tested enough, and I don't necessarily disagree with that.

Trump complaining that it was intentionally withheld until after the election to make him look worse kinda conflicts with that, though.
 
2021-04-19 9:06:37 AM  

jimjays: It's easy to blame Trump, his party and Fox for their constant stream of misinformation that put us in this situation with the virus and vaccines--and they certainly are each culpable. But a bigger problem is local media outlets across the country that still aren't pushing back to educate their populations on what's happened and how we can repair the damage.


"Local" meida outlets aren't, they're all owned by conglomerates, and one of the largest is Sinclair, who is basically Fox News Mark II.
 
2021-04-19 9:28:28 AM  

Rapmaster2000: And now we've moved on to "getting infected to own the libs".  I'm fine with this.  Lung scarring proves your commitment to The Leader.


If we want to limit variants, and preserve effectiveness of vaccines now and into the future, we need as many people as possible to get vaccinated.  Unfortunately, their idiotic, terrible choices affect us all.
 
2021-04-19 9:34:46 AM  

Flowery Twats: 1funguy: gimlet: For the current variant maybe. Every other article lately is about vaccinated people getting sick or how the current vaccine is useless against what is coming out of countries that will never reach herd immunity.

It is here to stay folks. Either continue to hide or adapt to the new sad reality.

/I am four days away from my second shot and I am nervous after watching my wife deal with the side affects for more than 5 days now.

Not knowing your or your wife's age or physical disposition, all I can offer is hope.
It does seem as though a certain mixture of the population is becoming more affected by the vaccination than others, but that long term (months) the efficacy seems better.

And she won't be inclined to vote for trump, so long term prospects seem to incline also.

Good luck...my number 2 is in 1 week.
Moderna.

I'm over 65 and in fairly good health. The side effects of my second Moderna shot were lethargy, headache, a few chills and elevated temp (101.7) during the night which decreased over the following day and were gone by the next night. I drank a lot of water, since I'd heard that helps...who knows, but it didn't hurt me. They said I could take Tylenol, but the symptoms weren't something I couldn't deal with, so I just toughed it out...wanted to see how bad it got, which was "not very"

Good luck!


Cool! And thanks for the pro tips!

Hope everyone else gets less skeerd when they find out how survivable the injections are!
 
2021-04-19 9:37:11 AM  

WalkingSedgwick: AlgaeRancher: Trump got the vaccine

//Can't they be more like Trump ?

Given that the Trumq Qultists went completely ape when Ivanka Trumq made her vaccination public, the answer to that seems to be 'no.'

Darwin will be visiting a lot of Trump Humpers in the foreseeable future.


Darwin will come for all of us if they holdout.

Here's the collective problem we face: If COVID doesn't go away in red counties, it will continue to mutate and could eventually mutate into a deadlier version that the vaccines are not effective against, and then spread to the blue counties.
 
2021-04-19 9:40:35 AM  

jimjays: MrBallou: gimlet: For the current variant maybe. Every other article lately is about vaccinated people getting sick or how the current vaccine is useless against what is coming out of countries that will never reach herd immunity.

It is here to stay folks. Either continue to hide or adapt to the new sad reality.

/I am four days away from my second shot and I am nervous after watching my wife deal with the side affects for more than 5 days now.

You sound concerned.

/The side effects are something called an "immune response", and it's what you want to happen. Your wife got over it a couple of days ago and is just malingering.

I talk a lot about "the tall man principle." That I'm tall and able to get things off high shelves doesn't make me any better than short people. I just got a lucky break with genes. Same thing with good health, quick recovery times, no allergies... Being fortunate with good health doesn't make us any better than the people that seem to catch every bug and allergy going around, we just got a good spin with gene roulette. That some of us had mild or no vaccine reaction doesn't mean it's not a very real issue for others. We just got lucky.


I'm not talking about being "tough" or anything like that, and it's not about having a strong or weak immune system. Even your own responses will vary with different antigens and at different times of your life.

I'm talking about the science of immune response. You inject an antigen (of whatever type) to provoke your immune system to build antibodies. The provocation causes a specific set of symptoms (fatigue, mild fever, headaches, rash, achy joints), that will range from non-existent to moderate.This is true regardless of the antigen.

Implying that the covid vaccine is somehow different is disinformation. It doesn't cause any other symptoms than any other antigen exposure, whether it be a vaccine or pollen.

Claiming your wife is suffering day after day and implying it may go on for weeks or, God forbid, may kill her is just wrong.
 
2021-04-19 9:42:47 AM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: jimjays: It's easy to blame Trump, his party and Fox for their constant stream of misinformation that put us in this situation with the virus and vaccines--and they certainly are each culpable. But a bigger problem is local media outlets across the country that still aren't pushing back...

"Local" meida outlets aren't, they're all owned by conglomerates, and one of the largest is Sinclair, who is basically Fox News Mark II.


"All." I don't think so. An awful lot, yes. And as evil as Sinclair is, even you say there are other conglomerates. They aren't pushing back as strongly as they should, but I've noticed my local rural radio and paper carefully phrasing information to point out that the party is feeding them a line of crap. (And of course there are so many people that confuse Mary's posts on Facebook for news--with Mary probably getting her info from Fox or Sinclair.)
 
2021-04-19 9:57:08 AM  
People in Oregon are whining about lockdown again.  Ignoring that Oregon has one of the lowest infection rates in the Country, largely due to the lockdown.  They want to know when the restrictions will be lifted.  How about 85% vaccinated, by County?  The red counties can include people who have recovered from an infection and can be shown to be non-infectious.
 
2021-04-19 10:12:13 AM  
I just love that these smug, showy patriots have allowed a sleazy New York huckster to talk them out of a proud American virtue and tradition in less than a year.

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You people are the ultimate farking marks, and you deserve every last con you fall for.
 
2021-04-19 11:02:28 AM  

WalkingSedgwick: AlgaeRancher: Trump got the vaccine

//Can't they be more like Trump ?

Given that the Trumq Qultists went completely ape when Ivanka Trumq made her vaccination public, the answer to that seems to be 'no.'

Darwin will be visiting a lot of Trump Humpers in the foreseeable future.


Which is good, right? They're "human garbage" as you once wrote, so let's celebrate their impending deaths.
 
2021-04-19 11:08:37 AM  

sinko swimo: want non-vaxxers vaccinated? refuse to let them renew their driver's license or get a tax refund, something of this nature. that will put their ass in line. at least some.


That would be rich. A few years ago, California did away with license suspensions for unpaid fines, arguing that suspensions make it impossible to get to work, go to medical appointments, get kids to school, etc. Now you want to subject people to all that for refusing a medical procedure.
 
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