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(Outside Online)   Idiot sport climber bolts up three new routes directly through wall of ancient petroglyphs near Moab   (outsideonline.com) divider line
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2021-04-18 11:09:31 PM  
Jerk
 
2021-04-18 11:49:12 PM  
Mother of all boners
 
2021-04-19 12:16:24 AM  

edmo: Jerk


I think dumbass is more appropriate.  It seems like he really didn't know.  (other wise he wouldn't have posted about it with his name.)
 
2021-04-19 12:22:19 AM  
According to Gilbert, in late March he explored the unbolted wall in the Sunshine Slabs area and mistook a number of petroglyphs for graffiti, attributing what he assumed was vandalism to the wall's proximity to a public campground.

He seems to have recognized it was a petroglyph before anyone called him out on it:

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2021-04-19 1:37:41 AM  
Since they have his name and address, turn it over to the feds for prosecution.
 
2021-04-19 1:43:27 AM  
This is why we can't have nice things.
 
2021-04-19 1:44:56 AM  
In his defense, wrecking artwork, destroying statues, vandalizing monuments, and eliminating voting rights seem to have been a big part of our recent history.
 
2021-04-19 1:45:19 AM  
Is there anything more useless you can be than a rock climber?

I mean, everything worth going to is not at the top of some farking sheer cliff, and if it was, it would have a staircase nearby, or a helipad.

/Get farked, rock climbers
 
2021-04-19 1:45:24 AM  
This is why we can't have nice things.
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2021-04-19 1:48:10 AM  
The original petroglyph artists didn't need bolts.

/ just sayin'
 
2021-04-19 1:48:27 AM  

labman: edmo: Jerk

I think dumbass is more appropriate.  It seems like he really didn't know.  (other wise he wouldn't have posted about it with his name.)


Selfishness is a pretty big part of the piechart of a jerks mentality.
 
2021-04-19 1:48:31 AM  

StevieRayPalpatine: This is why we can't have nice things.


This is me, shaking my fist at you (while or alien overlords watch, obviously):
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2021-04-19 1:49:11 AM  
I think...this is actually a good example of what prison is for. And a criminal record. And probation officers making sure for the rest of his life he isn't being paid by an emp-yer who ahs a rule gainst hiring people with criminal records. Drug possession? Not a problem, do not prosecute. Defacing a culture's last known remains? Prison.
 
2021-04-19 1:50:16 AM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Is there anything more useless you can be than a rock climber?

I mean, everything worth going to is not at the top of some farking sheer cliff, and if it was, it would have a staircase nearby, or a helipad.

/Get farked, rock climbers


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2021-04-19 1:50:49 AM  
This analogy for mankinds simultaneous ignorance of where he's been and where he's headed; is brought to you by Colorado Springs.

Colorado Springs: Where Republican Jesus isn't a joke.
 
2021-04-19 1:53:04 AM  

StevieRayPalpatine: This is why we can't have nice things.


We had nice things for thousands of years.  eventually deep time claims everything back.
 
2021-04-19 1:54:51 AM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Is there anything more useless you can be than a rock climber?


Artificial Panda inseminator?
/or would it be panda artificial inseminator?
 
2021-04-19 1:55:57 AM  

leeksfromchichis: StevieRayPalpatine: This is why we can't have nice things.

We had nice things for thousands of years.  eventually deep time claims everything back.


Not that the guy shouldn't face consequences, but I just don't get upset like I used to over things like this. everything is a buddhist sand painting, eventually.
 
2021-04-19 2:00:29 AM  
How is he at scaling prison walls?

Lets find out.
 
2021-04-19 2:00:30 AM  

4th Horseman: StevieRayPalpatine: This is why we can't have nice things.

This is me, shaking my fist at you (while or alien overlords watch, obviously):
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Hell if anything Inwas gonna hope maybe that's the asshat guy being shoved up a giant aliens ass.
 
2021-04-19 2:01:04 AM  
Humans are an invasive species. At some point a life form from another world will just kill us with fire and then 1000 year old murals won't matter any more. To anybody.
 
2021-04-19 2:14:05 AM  
Not to go against the lynch mob but at least give the guy some credit. As soon as someone pointed out what he had done he

a) issued a real apology where he took full responsibility for his actionsi instead of the non-apologies that are so common those days
b) immediately drove back to the site to fill in the holes.
c) Voluntarily turned himself in, in-person, to the authorities.

I'm not sure what else the mob expects him to do....commit seppuku on national tv? Yeah, hes was an idiot, but how do expect good people to behave after they realize they've made a terrible mistake?
 
2021-04-19 2:14:51 AM  
Lock him up.
 
2021-04-19 2:22:28 AM  
Hope the asshole gets covid and lives but suffers ctippling after-effects that leaves him unable to do sny more rock climbing.
 
2021-04-19 2:24:54 AM  
And yet no mention of the most essential tool of the Colorado professional rock climber...

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(Don't laugh - it worked for the Incas)
 
2021-04-19 2:27:26 AM  

NM Volunteer: Since they have his name and address, turn it over to the feds for prosecution.


I know that this is Fark and all, but it kind of cracks me up that this gets posted and then "Smarted" a bunch of times.

As the article says, the guy showed up in person to report himself to the feds and they're investigating further.  So I'm not sure exactly "turn it over to the feds for prosecution" is supposed to do given he already showed up, told the feds he did it, and they're already looking into it.
 
2021-04-19 2:35:59 AM  

Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: Not to go against the lynch mob but at least give the guy some credit. As soon as someone pointed out what he had done he

a) issued a real apology where he took full responsibility for his actionsi instead of the non-apologies that are so common those days
b) immediately drove back to the site to fill in the holes.
c) Voluntarily turned himself in, in-person, to the authorities.

I'm not sure what else the mob expects him to do....commit seppuku on national tv? Yeah, hes was an idiot, but how do expect good people to behave after they realize they've made a terrible mistake?


this. no "whatever oops my bad I guess," "I'm sorry if I offended anyone," or "crap I got caught so I better apologize." obviously he didn't know or he wouldn't have publicly posted the route. stupid but not malicious.
 
2021-04-19 2:37:36 AM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Is there anything more useless you can be than a rock climber?

I mean, everything worth going to is not at the top of some farking sheer cliff, and if it was, it would have a staircase nearby, or a helipad.

/Get farked, rock climbers


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2021-04-19 2:45:37 AM  

Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: Not to go against the lynch mob but at least give the guy some credit. As soon as someone pointed out what he had done he

a) issued a real apology where he took full responsibility for his actionsi instead of the non-apologies that are so common those days
b) immediately drove back to the site to fill in the holes.
c) Voluntarily turned himself in, in-person, to the authorities.

I'm not sure what else the mob expects him to do....commit seppuku on national tv? Yeah, hes was an idiot, but how do expect good people to behave after they realize they've made a terrible mistake?


This so much. I'm truly surprised by this thread.
 
2021-04-19 2:49:41 AM  
I'm going against the grain here and going to point out that once he realized his mistake (or realized he got caught, either way) he seems to have done everything possible to make amend, and hasn't avoided any blame or responsibility, and us planning to do the restoration work himself, while seeking advice from the local first nations peoples.

Say what you want about his bonehead initial action but his actions since have been as perfect as one could want.
 
2021-04-19 2:52:11 AM  

powhound: Humans are an invasive species. At some point a life form from another world will just kill us with fire and then 1000 year old murals won't matter any more. To anybody.


So, can we have your liver then?
 
2021-04-19 2:52:59 AM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Is there anything more useless you can be than a rock climber?

I mean, everything worth going to is not at the top of some farking sheer cliff, and if it was, it would have a staircase nearby, or a helipad.

/Get farked, rock climbers


my niece and her wife bought a monster Jeep and go to organized gatherings where people slowly traverse through extreme woods. might be fun but looks like high HP natural woods destruction on the overall. what the hell ever happened to the saying about take only pictures, leave only footprints, et cetera?
 
2021-04-19 2:56:24 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: I think...this is actually a good example of what prison is for. And a criminal record. And probation officers making sure for the rest of his life he isn't being paid by an emp-yer who ahs a rule gainst hiring people with criminal records. Drug possession? Not a problem, do not prosecute. Defacing a culture's last known remains? Prison.


Crimes generally need to involve intent.  Or at the very least recklessness.  There has been a degree of erosion of that principle, but that's the usual principle and I think it's a good principle.

Criminal records and punishment aren't suitable for fark ups.  Particularly genuine mistakes that are kind of understandable.  I don't want to detract from the petroglyphs in question, but they really do look like the sort of thing that might be graffiti, and I'm not gonna lie, I would not for a moment have guessed they were petroglyphs unless someone told me.
 
2021-04-19 3:13:01 AM  

lindalouwho: Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: Not to go against the lynch mob but at least give the guy some credit. As soon as someone pointed out what he had done he

a) issued a real apology where he took full responsibility for his actionsi instead of the non-apologies that are so common those days
b) immediately drove back to the site to fill in the holes.
c) Voluntarily turned himself in, in-person, to the authorities.

I'm not sure what else the mob expects him to do....commit seppuku on national tv? Yeah, hes was an idiot, but how do expect good people to behave after they realize they've made a terrible mistake?

This so much. I'm truly surprised by this thread.


Well, I'd have to read the article in order to glean facts like "what actually happened" and ain't nobody got time for that.
 
2021-04-19 3:14:29 AM  
The bigger crime is that someone actually took the time to bolt a 5.3
Dude undoubtedly has fixed draws on his step ladder at home
 
2021-04-19 3:15:32 AM  

lindalouwho: Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: Not to go against the lynch mob but at least give the guy some credit. As soon as someone pointed out what he had done he

a) issued a real apology where he took full responsibility for his actionsi instead of the non-apologies that are so common those days
b) immediately drove back to the site to fill in the holes.
c) Voluntarily turned himself in, in-person, to the authorities.

I'm not sure what else the mob expects him to do....commit seppuku on national tv? Yeah, hes was an idiot, but how do expect good people to behave after they realize they've made a terrible mistake?

This so much. I'm truly surprised by this thread.


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2021-04-19 3:16:17 AM  

princhester: powhound: Humans are an invasive species. At some point a life form from another world will just kill us with fire and then 1000 year old murals won't matter any more. To anybody.

So, can we have your liver then?


My cat doesn't want my liver
 
2021-04-19 3:19:52 AM  

Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: Not to go against the lynch mob but at least give the guy some credit. As soon as someone pointed out what he had done he

a) issued a real apology where he took full responsibility for his actionsi instead of the non-apologies that are so common those days
b) immediately drove back to the site to fill in the holes.
c) Voluntarily turned himself in, in-person, to the authorities.

I'm not sure what else the mob expects him to do....commit seppuku on national tv? Yeah, hes was an idiot, but how do expect good people to behave after they realize they've made a terrible mistake?


I've drilled bolts for sport routes before.  That farknugget was staring at those petroglyphs for a long time while hammering away with a drill beside them.  Any reasonable person would have abandoned the bolt project when they came across petroglyphs. The fact that this shiathead went through with bolting the entire route means he did not give a shiat until there was the threat of consequences.
 
2021-04-19 3:31:21 AM  

SumoJeb: That farknugget was staring at those petroglyphs for a long time while hammering away with a drill beside them.  Any reasonable person would have abandoned the bolt project when they came across petroglyphs. The fact that this shiathead went through with bolting the entire route means he did not give a shiat until there was the threat of consequences.


Or he didn't know they were petroglyphs.  But anyway, you just ignore the evidence and carry on with your lynching, you're clearly enjoying yourself and who am I to ruin your fun...
 
2021-04-19 3:38:43 AM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Is there anything more useless you can be than a rock climber?

I mean, everything worth going to is not at the top of some farking sheer cliff, and if it was, it would have a staircase nearby, or a helipad.

/Get farked, rock climbers


Base Jumper.
 
2021-04-19 3:38:46 AM  
Oh no. How dare anyone have the audacity to think that old stick figures are not important


HOW DARE THEY!!!!
 
2021-04-19 3:52:12 AM  

ISO15693: I'm going against the grain here and going to point out that once he realized his mistake (or realized he got caught, either way) he seems to have done everything possible to make amend, and hasn't avoided any blame or responsibility, and us planning to do the restoration work himself, while seeking advice from the local first nations peoples.

Say what you want about his bonehead initial action but his actions since have been as perfect as one could want.


If he was really a good climber HE WOULDN'T HAVE BOLTED PETROGLYPHS IN THE FIRST PLACE because he would have read his climber's guide and not been climbing over a Native petroglyph site; but I'll let you have this one.
 
2021-04-19 3:57:08 AM  

maxandgrinch: In his defense, wrecking artwork, destroying statues, vandalizing monuments, and eliminating voting rights seem to have been a big part of our recent history.


FTFY.
 
2021-04-19 3:58:24 AM  
climbers and cyclists the worst of all people.
 
2021-04-19 4:21:36 AM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Is there anything more useless you can be than a rock climber?

Bronies, apparently.

 
2021-04-19 4:54:18 AM  

little big man: According to Gilbert, in late March he explored the unbolted wall in the Sunshine Slabs area and mistook a number of petroglyphs for graffiti, attributing what he assumed was vandalism to the wall's proximity to a public campground.

He seems to have recognized it was a petroglyph before anyone called him out on it:

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After reading the article I was prepared to cut the guy a little slack, but seeing this pretty much kills that urge.
 
2021-04-19 5:01:43 AM  
I find it difficult to believe that a dude with 15 years of rock climbing experience in Colorado wasn't aware of the existence of petroglyphs in popular climbing areas in that state.
 
2021-04-19 6:07:00 AM  

leeksfromchichis: leeksfromchichis: StevieRayPalpatine: This is why we can't have nice things.

We had nice things for thousands of years.  eventually deep time claims everything back.

Not that the guy shouldn't face consequences, but I just don't get upset like I used to over things like this. everything is a buddhist sand painting, eventually.


That's really cool.
Until someone scratches your car.
 
2021-04-19 6:10:31 AM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Is there anything more useless you can be than a rock climber?

I mean, everything worth going to is not at the top of some farking sheer cliff, and if it was, it would have a staircase nearby, or a helipad.

/Get farked, rock climbers


Are you even serious bro?

When I'm rock climbing, it's just like I'm in paradise. And I don't wanna go home.

David Lee Roth - Just Like Paradise
Youtube I4qh_9vH1Ww
 
2021-04-19 6:46:56 AM  

SumoJeb: The bigger crime is that someone actually took the time to bolt a 5.3
Dude undoubtedly has fixed draws on his step ladder at home


This.  A 5.3 is just marginally harder than a steep hike
 
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