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2021-04-18 7:36:39 AM  
Whelp, time to start the rioting, I guess.
 
2021-04-18 7:44:28 AM  
Let's all watch Gym Jordan's head explode!
 
2021-04-18 7:55:08 AM  
Michael Wood, administrator of the state's department of Occupational Safety and Health, said "We are not out of the woods yet."


Wood can't see the forest for the trees.
 
2021-04-18 9:01:59 AM  
They should be talk about case rates, not total number of cases.

What the hell is wrong with people?  The pandemic isn't over. And of course it's the GOP who's out there defending the small business owner... Bullshiat.

I'm so sick of the stupid.  I love in Oregon... In a college town... Stupid kids will be the next ones to die of this.... Because the GOP wants to score political points.
 
2021-04-18 10:47:20 AM  

leeto2: They should be talk about case rates, not total number of cases.

What the hell is wrong with people?  The pandemic isn't over. And of course it's the GOP who's out there defending the small business owner... Bullshiat.

I'm so sick of the stupid.  I love in Oregon... In a college town... Stupid kids will be the next ones to die of this.... Because the GOP wants to score political points.


In Montana they lifted the mask requirements shortly after Gianforte took office. My county however did not. But I saw my employer plans on dropping masks as soon as the county does, and I'm just not sure if we're ready yet.

I got my 2nd shot Thrusday, so I'm eleven days from immunity, assuming I'm not the 1in 20 that it doesn't protect. My state doesn't seem very gungho about getting vaccinated and I just feel covid is going to with us far longer because people are idiots.
 
2021-04-18 11:25:09 AM  
I got my second vaccine shot last week and I'm still required to wear pants. Also, taxation s theft.
 
2021-04-18 11:26:21 AM  
The proposal would keep the rules in place until they are "no longer necessary

Crazy talk.
 
2021-04-18 11:29:01 AM  

skipping non-voting comment in contest thread: I got my second vaccine shot last week and I'm still required to wear pants. Also, taxation s theft.


You forgot to mention that the Second Amendment is the ONLY gun permit a person needs.
 
2021-04-18 11:30:56 AM  
The legacy of trump calling a pandemic hoax and then downplaying it.

I'm tired of it.  Conservatives would have me sick and tired.

Ruin a conservative's life.

It's a civic duty.
 
2021-04-18 11:31:09 AM  

NotCodger: Let's all watch Gym Jordan's head explode!


Like a wet firecracker buried in cement.
 
2021-04-18 11:31:42 AM  
This article is full of shiat. You can tell because you won't find a single teacher outside of the anti-vakkks counties that wants to lift mask mandates given the farking kids are the ones driving the current case rates.

What garbage journalism
 
2021-04-18 11:33:30 AM  
Apparently, he got a "flood" of criticism, but this is the first I'm hearing of it. Time to send an email in support of the proposed rule. If "smart people" are less organized than "morons" we might be defining intelligence incorrectly.
 
2021-04-18 11:34:27 AM  
Nationwide, daily cases are surging again. Up around 20k per day over the last month. That isn't going to improve with mask mandates being lifted.

Here in Utah it is the younger age groups (25-45) that are continuing to drive case rates.
 
2021-04-18 11:35:51 AM  
Let's keep in mind that mask mandates are a minor inconvenience to white people who don't want to wear them. And occasionally inconveniencing white people is the worse thing America ever does.
 
2021-04-18 11:37:27 AM  
The way "evil socialist" is used in Texas is to replace an action that involves cooperating with others to improve a standard of living, act as a commonwealth.

The formula is "_______ (Democratic candidate name) is too socialist for Texas."  You could replace it with "American" in most cases.  Or "healthy" or "sane" or "compassionate" or "job building" or "sensible for business" or "devout."

There's a strange dynamic when a global disaster, a new disease, is treated as a frivolous government policy that came out of nowhere.  The pandemic is assigned a political agenda, handed a country of origin for the agenda, makes life or death health practices a "matter of personal choice"  effectively nullifying public health law and purpose.

What used to be called an act of god brings out a very atheistic response from the fervent evangelical believers.  Very telling.  Their god is only evoked as a magical "deus ex machina" who will cure them after there rebellion against masks.
 
2021-04-18 11:37:34 AM  

Nora Gretz: Apparently, he got a "flood" of criticism, but this is the first I'm hearing of it. Time to send an email in support of the proposed rule. If "smart people" are less organized than "morons" we might be defining intelligence incorrectly.


Morans' voices get herd.

/no typo
//your a typo
 
2021-04-18 11:37:54 AM  
Does everyone in America have their second vaccine yet plus 2 weeks yet? NO.
Does having a vaccine guarantee you of not getting or spreading the virus? NO.
Do we have vaccines for children yet? NO.
Is the virus still raging across the world and the US? YES.
Are there new variants out there that the vaccine might be ineffective against? YES.

Conclusion: We still need to wear masks.
 
2021-04-18 11:39:10 AM  

Harlee: Whelp, time to start the rioting, I guess.


Why are they rioting? What is so bad about wearing a mask? I'm going to wear one indefinitely. Oregon resident.
 
2021-04-18 11:40:38 AM  

bdub77: Does everyone in America have their second vaccine yet plus 2 weeks yet? NO.
Does having a vaccine guarantee you of not getting or spreading the virus? NO.
Do we have vaccines for children yet? NO.
Is the virus still raging across the world and the US? YES.
Are there new variants out there that the vaccine might be ineffective against? YES.

Conclusion: We still need to wear masks.


For the rest of our lives,
 
2021-04-18 11:43:29 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: bdub77: Does everyone in America have their second vaccine yet plus 2 weeks yet? NO.
Does having a vaccine guarantee you of not getting or spreading the virus? NO.
Do we have vaccines for children yet? NO.
Is the virus still raging across the world and the US? YES.
Are there new variants out there that the vaccine might be ineffective against? YES.

Conclusion: We still need to wear masks.

For the rest of our lives,


Lol what
 
2021-04-18 11:44:41 AM  

skipping non-voting comment in contest thread: I got my second vaccine shot last week and I'm still required to wear pants. Also, taxation s theft.


toga, Toga, Toga, TOGA TOOGAAA TOOOOOGA!!!!

Signed -

Guy who answers the door in nothing but a red and green tartan bedsheet.
 
2021-04-18 11:46:25 AM  

skipping non-voting comment in contest thread: I got my second vaccine shot last week and I'm still required to wear pants. Also, taxation s theft.


As I told the often harrassed, short-woman-real-cop outside Sam's the first week of long slow lines, panic, mandatory masks and entitled pushback -- "Do what I do.  Just imagine -- no mask, no underwear."   I was going to add "Since you're wearing a gun, you can probably say that out loud, pretending you have xray vision, and disappointed in what you see."  but the line started moving.
 
2021-04-18 11:47:23 AM  
Rules at OSHA website. They say to email t­ec­h*w­eb[nospam-﹫-backwards]noge­ro*g­ov to comment. Oregon farkers, do your thing.
 
2021-04-18 11:51:22 AM  

skipping non-voting comment in contest thread: I got my second vaccine shot last week and I'm still required to wear pants. Also, taxation s theft.

Except we have plenty of evidence antifa exists. 10846343/127611496

 
2021-04-18 11:52:22 AM  
Oregonian here
Got one shot, and I've been working this entire time. I used public transportation that stops twice on its route at the local homeless mission. I double mask and wash my hands a lot.
I work as a theater audio technician, and as far as I know we're the only one on the west coast that's doing shows with audiences. We have limited seating of course, and we're live streaming everything.
We do contact tracing for everyone coming into the theater, as well as all the other safety requirements.
I have no problem with the masks. I used to catch a pretty good cold every fall/winter whenever we did shows where there were a lot of school kids in the audience. You could smell the sickness in the air. I haven't had that at all this year for obvious reasons.
A lot of stagehands are out of work. I'm very lucky that we have forward thinking people in my admin.
 
2021-04-18 11:53:35 AM  
Off topic slightly, no shoes no shirt, no service. Why is that hard? Add to it mask. People don't go shopping shirtless. That would be weird.
 
2021-04-18 11:55:14 AM  
I knew there was another reason I liked living in Oregon
 
2021-04-18 11:58:09 AM  
My son and I decided months ago that even with being vaccinated (we both get our 2nd shots this Thursday), we will continue to wear masks in public indefinitely.

And, as he works in a school cafeteria, he will remain double masked at work indefinitely.

I wish the entire GQP & their covidiot supporters would experience what my family has due to covid.

It killed my brother in January, and my mom was one of the first cases in her county. After 6 wks in hospital she was able to come home. That was last May. She, of course, has lingering long-term lung issues because of it.

If these people had to go thru what my family, and so very sadly so many families have, they'd support not only extended mask wearing, but universal healthcare as well.
 
2021-04-18 11:59:47 AM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: bdub77: Does everyone in America have their second vaccine yet plus 2 weeks yet? NO.
Does having a vaccine guarantee you of not getting or spreading the virus? NO.
Do we have vaccines for children yet? NO.
Is the virus still raging across the world and the US? YES.
Are there new variants out there that the vaccine might be ineffective against? YES.

Conclusion: We still need to wear masks.

For the rest of our lives,


Is this a question? I don't mind wearing a mask.
 
2021-04-18 12:00:16 PM  
I'm OK with that

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2021-04-18 12:03:16 PM  

suebhoney: My son and I decided months ago that even with being vaccinated (we both get our 2nd shots this Thursday), we will continue to wear masks in public indefinitely.

And, as he works in a school cafeteria, he will remain double masked at work indefinitely.

I wish the entire GQP & their covidiot supporters would experience what my family has due to covid.

It killed my brother in January, and my mom was one of the first cases in her county. After 6 wks in hospital she was able to come home. That was last May. She, of course, has lingering long-term lung issues because of it.

If these people had to go thru what my family, and so very sadly so many families have, they'd support not only extended mask wearing, but universal healthcare as well.


Sorry for your loss. You're doing the right thing.Thank you.
 
2021-04-18 12:06:31 PM  
I took my kid to the pediatrician on Friday. He said he hadn't seen a single case of flu in a year. I haven't had a cold in a year. Cards on the table, in loving the masking and its tagalong effects.
 
2021-04-18 12:06:58 PM  

Badmoodman: Michael Wood, administrator of the state's department of Occupational Safety and Health, said "We are not out of the woods yet."


Wood can't see the forest for the trees.


That was a nice, controlled burn
 
2021-04-18 12:08:36 PM  
Good. Cases in my county are spiking again, and hospitalizations are up. We haven't been getting nearly enough vaccines to keep up with demand. Tomorrow they open up eligibility for everyone over 16 and are warning that it's going to be difficult to get an appointment. OHA is saying that everyone should be able to get vaccinated by the summer.

We're so close. I'm fine with stayed masked up a bit longer. Besides, we'll all be needing masks this summer to filter out all the forest fires, so might as well stay in practice.
 
2021-04-18 12:20:15 PM  
I'll never understand businesses being opposed to mask mandates or the idea that the mandates hurt business. Without those mandates, I'm staying home 100%. At least now, I can go shopping when I have to.
 
2021-04-18 12:21:53 PM  
Michael Wood, administrator of the state's department of Occupational Safety and Health, said the move is necessary to address a technicality in state law that requires a "permanent" rule to keep current restrictions from expiring.

It's just a house keeping measure, because of how the laws in OR are worded.  It's not even unusual, it's a by product of how we govern, that sometimes we need these little measures to meet up with the word of the law.  It's a trade off that we have to do this sometimes, in exchange for having government that governs mostly.
 
2021-04-18 12:24:45 PM  
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2021-04-18 12:24:56 PM  

bdub77: Does everyone in America have their second vaccine yet plus 2 weeks yet? NO.
Does having a vaccine guarantee you of not getting or spreading the virus? NO.
Do we have vaccines for children yet? NO.
Is the virus still raging across the world and the US? YES.
Are there new variants out there that the vaccine might be ineffective against? YES.

Conclusion: We still need to wear masks.


Oregon resident.
Fully vaccinated. (3 weeks since 2nd dose)

And still wears a mask.
 
2021-04-18 12:27:40 PM  
If they're not forcibly quarantining plague spreading plague rats while brutalizing the male in front of the family, then they aren't going far enough.
 
2021-04-18 12:31:26 PM  

TelemonianAjax: I took my kid to the pediatrician on Friday. He said he hadn't seen a single case of flu in a year. I haven't had a cold in a year. Cards on the table, in loving the masking and its tagalong effects.


This. I am keeping my mask, and you can have it when you pry it from my cold, dead face.
 
2021-04-18 12:31:35 PM  

TelemonianAjax: I took my kid to the pediatrician on Friday. He said he hadn't seen a single case of flu in a year. I haven't had a cold in a year. Cards on the table, in loving the masking and its tagalong effects.


detonator: I used to catch a pretty good cold every fall/winter whenever we did shows where there were a lot of school kids in the audience. You could smell the sickness in the air. I haven't had that at all this year for obvious reasons.


These are great anecdotes, and we need more of them.  Thanks for sharing!

We all hear way, wayyy too many cases of the "OMG CAN'T BELIEVE THIS HAPPENED TO ME!" rare-risk problems (not just Covid, but everything, really) because that sells papers / gets clicks.  Worse, we are also, as a species, hard-wired to overreact to risk -- so those rare anecdotes carry way too much weight, and then do disproportionate damage to public health (see the recent, and infuriating, scattered stories about "OMG THEY DIED AFTER VACCINE (because of something entirely unrelated, but we'll whisper that bit)".

So, it's *great* to hear more stories about not getting sick, about getting vaccinated without bad side effects, etc.

It could definitely help save lives and reduce suffering for years to come if quiet notes of unintended *benefits* and lessons learned over the last year got even louder press and cultural conversation.  580,823 Americans SO FAR didn't need to die, but maybe we can make the enormous loss worth ~something~ by being better in the future.

There are more and more people mentioning that they didn't get sick.  And hearing someone mention it, some might realize, "hey, you know what?  I didn't get a cold this year either...."  Let's keep that up!

Masks work.  Social distancing works.  Unfortunately, restaurants and crowded gathering indoors are guaranteed disease-transmission nightmares, of course, and the suspension of those interactions can't last (but masks and care help!).  And having everything delivered, and shopping once a month instead of multiple times a week may fade, but fingers crossed that sticks around, too.

But we *absolutely*can* keep using masks, keep being careful, keep washing our hands, and, you know, keep giving a shiat about other people.

Well, some of us can.  Maybe.  I hope.
 
2021-04-18 12:34:07 PM  

thurstonxhowell: I'll never understand businesses being opposed to mask mandates or the idea that the mandates hurt business. Without those mandates, I'm staying home 100%. At least now, I can go shopping when I have to.


See also:  Single payer. Might be the greatest thing that could help small business since the invention of small business.

For being the "party of small business!", the t(R)aitors ~really~ foot-grenade constantly.

See also, "party of fiscal responsibility!", "party of family values!", "party of personal reponsibility!", "party of law and order!", and more, of course.

It's alllllllmost like they're a bunch of farking hypocrite assholes intentionally manipulating their voters into voting against their own best interests, but that couldn't be it.
 
2021-04-18 12:34:22 PM  
Both I and my spouse have received both doses of the Pfizer vaccine and we wear masks whenever we're out of the house. It's mostly because we're responsible people and realize there's a small but finite chance we could spread disease to others, but also because wearing a mask is just about the smallest inconvenience I can imagine and it's literally less effort to put one on than it is to figure out a valid reason not to.

Since our idiot governor has lifted the mandate, I see people not wearing masks in situations where they definitely should and automatically assume they're idiots.
 
2021-04-18 12:34:58 PM  
If they really want to blow minds, consider offering relocation assistance to people and businesses that are currently in states where their politicians have been trying to kill them over the last year.
 
2021-04-18 12:35:13 PM  

Harlee: skipping non-voting comment in contest thread: I got my second vaccine shot last week and I'm still required to wear pants. Also, taxation s theft.

Except we have plenty of evidence antifa exists. 10846343/127611496


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2021-04-18 12:37:42 PM  

TelemonianAjax: I took my kid to the pediatrician on Friday. He said he hadn't seen a single case of flu in a year. I haven't had a cold in a year. Cards on the table, in loving the masking and its tagalong effects.


Yeah if you see me and my kids on a plane in 10 years wearing masks, you'll know why. I plan to wear them just about anywhere there's a significant population of people present and clustered together, simply because they are more sanitary.
 
2021-04-18 12:40:16 PM  

SFSailor: TelemonianAjax: I took my kid to the pediatrician on Friday. He said he hadn't seen a single case of flu in a year. I haven't had a cold in a year. Cards on the table, in loving the masking and its tagalong effects.

detonator: I used to catch a pretty good cold every fall/winter whenever we did shows where there were a lot of school kids in the audience. You could smell the sickness in the air. I haven't had that at all this year for obvious reasons.

These are great anecdotes, and we need more of them.  Thanks for sharing!

We all hear way, wayyy too many cases of the "OMG CAN'T BELIEVE THIS HAPPENED TO ME!" rare-risk problems (not just Covid, but everything, really) because that sells papers / gets clicks.  Worse, we are also, as a species, hard-wired to overreact to risk -- so those rare anecdotes carry way too much weight, and then do disproportionate damage to public health (see the recent, and infuriating, scattered stories about "OMG THEY DIED AFTER VACCINE (because of something entirely unrelated, but we'll whisper that bit)".

So, it's *great* to hear more stories about not getting sick, about getting vaccinated without bad side effects, etc.

It could definitely help save lives and reduce suffering for years to come if quiet notes of unintended *benefits* and lessons learned over the last year got even louder press and cultural conversation.  580,823 Americans SO FAR didn't need to die, but maybe we can make the enormous loss worth ~something~ by being better in the future.

There are more and more people mentioning that they didn't get sick.  And hearing someone mention it, some might realize, "hey, you know what?  I didn't get a cold this year either...."  Let's keep that up!

Masks work.  Social distancing works.  Unfortunately, restaurants and crowded gathering indoors are guaranteed disease-transmission nightmares, of course, and the suspension of those interactions can't last (but masks and care help!).  And having everything delivered, and shopping once a month instead of multiple times a week may fade, but fingers crossed that sticks around, too.

But we *absolutely*can* keep using masks, keep being careful, keep washing our hands, and, you know, keep giving a shiat about other people.

Well, some of us can.  Maybe.  I hope.


There's no accounting for other people's personal hygiene, or for their respect for other people in general. If there was, Trump never would've been President.
 
2021-04-18 12:42:58 PM  
Half-vaxxed here. Got the first Pfizer shot Monday. It didn't change anything about what I do, including my mask habits.

I remember when I first got on PrEP how it felt like nothing really changed. I didn't go out and suddenly start being a turbo-slut. It was peace of mind, especially against what I could not control. I can choose who I hook up with, but I can't choose being raped, and there are a lot of people in this world who have HIV because someone raped them. I myself had been drugged and raped before, so that was the biggest difference to me--knowing I was already protected no matter what.

It feels the same way now. I wear masks because no one knows that I've had any vaccination, because it's the right thing to do. And it still protects me. But the vaccination makes me no longer fearful of others. I'm not afraid of malicious anti-maskers or mentally unstable people getting too close. I'm not afraid of, say, being jailed. (Well, not for COVID reasons.) And that to me makes the biggest difference.
 
2021-04-18 12:48:56 PM  

WithinReason: bdub77: Does everyone in America have their second vaccine yet plus 2 weeks yet? NO.
Does having a vaccine guarantee you of not getting or spreading the virus? NO.
Do we have vaccines for children yet? NO.
Is the virus still raging across the world and the US? YES.
Are there new variants out there that the vaccine might be ineffective against? YES.

Conclusion: We still need to wear masks.

It's been over a year and we are starting to look like cowards.


Do you walk around with your dick out? Why not? Is it because you're afraid you'll look like a coward?

Consider the fact that maybe you're afraid people will discover that you are simply a coward in general.
 
2021-04-18 12:49:00 PM  

whither_apophis: I'm OK with that

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Ding Ding Ding - we have a winning policy.

Good on the state officials in Oregon doing the right thing.  Seems to happen so rarely these days.

/Not happy with how NJ has become "meh, so what" the last few months.
//Other than good mask adoption in stores (95%+ of people I run into are not only wearing a mask, they wear them correctly)
 
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