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2021-04-17 10:57:35 AM  
So the state of pop music manufactured for the radio is that bad....
 
2021-04-17 11:43:04 AM  
I'm not a fan of her chosen genre, her style, or even her voice--but I respect her talent. She's a creative force.
 
2021-04-17 12:40:17 PM  
Her last three albums before this remake were all really good.

The story of why she is remaking her back catalog is fantastic.
 
2021-04-17 12:48:42 PM  
That is a whole lot of breakups in one year.
 
2021-04-17 12:55:25 PM  

cretinbob: So the state of pop music manufactured for the radio is that bad....


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2021-04-17 12:56:34 PM  

DeathBySarcasm: I'm not a fan of her chosen genre, her style, or even her voice--but I respect her talent. She's a creative force.


That's like saying Chili's is a culinary powerhouse.
 
2021-04-17 1:01:28 PM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: DeathBySarcasm: I'm not a fan of her chosen genre, her style, or even her voice--but I respect her talent. She's a creative force.

That's like saying Chili's is a culinary powerhouse.


LOL!  I'm sure she could write better songs, but with a truckload of cash and awards, she doesn't appear to give a crap.  Kinda like why Stephen King doesn't write 'literary' fiction.
 
2021-04-17 1:26:28 PM  

DeathBySarcasm: I'm not a fan of her chosen genre, her style, or even her voice--but I respect her talent. She's a creative force.


I decided to give her a shot a while back and went through most of her albums. At the risk of sounding like Patrick Bateman ranting about Huey Lewis and the News, here is my assessment:

Her early stuff is pop country that could easily be just straight pop rock with a few instrumentation changes.

Her third album, Red, starts more clearly transitioning from country to pop. It's a good album, albeit with some surprisingly dark undertones.

1989 she drops all pretenses of country and goes straight pop. There's some good stuff on there.

Reputation is meh. I'm not a fan.

Lover is a great album. I recommend it.

I haven't had a chance to listen to her latest three albums, but I've heard good things.
 
2021-04-17 1:54:18 PM  
And it is only April
 
2021-04-17 2:05:47 PM  

Shostie: DeathBySarcasm: I'm not a fan of her chosen genre, her style, or even her voice--but I respect her talent. She's a creative force.

I decided to give her a shot a while back and went through most of her albums. At the risk of sounding like Patrick Bateman ranting about Huey Lewis and the News, here is my assessment:

Her early stuff is pop country that could easily be just straight pop rock with a few instrumentation changes.

Her third album, Red, starts more clearly transitioning from country to pop. It's a good album, albeit with some surprisingly dark undertones.

1989 she drops all pretenses of country and goes straight pop. There's some good stuff on there.

Reputation is meh. I'm not a fan.

Lover is a great album. I recommend it.

I haven't had a chance to listen to her latest three albums, but I've heard good things.


Yeah... it's just not my thing. Not judging it. I keep tabs on Swift, in case she has a 'Feck everyone, I'm making a Pet Sounds album' epiphany.
 
2021-04-17 2:34:44 PM  

cretinbob: So the state of pop music manufactured for the radio is that bad....


You know she writes all of her own stuff, right?
 
2021-04-17 2:38:12 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: cretinbob: So the state of pop music manufactured for the radio is that bad....

You know she writes all of her own stuff, right?


Max Martin writes all the stuff
 
2021-04-17 2:38:16 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: cretinbob: So the state of pop music manufactured for the radio is that bad....

You know she writes all of her own stuff, right?


That alone is why I respecr her.   Anyone willing to pen their own tunes and then stand in front of people and play them is OK in my book.

It is dreck, but it is her dreck, and I am OK with that.
 
2021-04-17 2:38:43 PM  
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2021-04-17 2:39:17 PM  

Shostie: I haven't had a chance to listen to her latest three albums, but I've heard good things.


If you enjoyed Lover, you'll probably adore the last two (Folklore and Evermore). Most of the pop sheen is stripped away. It's just songs and stories, often about fictional characters rather than herself, and her collab with the dude from The National expands the sonic palette in a nice way. It's by far her best work -- I don't think it's even close -- and it's work that largely leaves behind the last bits of teen girl angst that was in her music.

Even the few songs that still have it are part of a larger narrative and mix up the formula, such as one from the perspective of the boy. She also has songs about addiction, faking it due to insecurity, about going through the motions in life, complacency in older relationships, and other things that get outside the box she's been in.

As someone who is very much NOT a young woman angsty about a breakup, it's the first time I've heard material from her that actually resonates with me in some way. Even the music itself is good, too.

They are legit good work, well worth the praise they'd gotten, and have turned me from an idle listener who casually enjoyed some of her pop hooks to a genuine fan. I've had both records on repeat all year.

Never for a moment thought I, a hairy middle-aged dude who leans towards noisy rock, experimental sonics and walls of sound, would ever genuinely be into Taylor Swift's work, but Folklore and Evermore converted me. They're great records and well worth a listen.
 
2021-04-17 2:40:02 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: cretinbob: So the state of pop music manufactured for the radio is that bad....

You know she writes all of her own stuff, right?


I think his comment is against everyone else which is in it's own way a dig against her.

Sort of a 'it's not that she's so good, it's that the rest is so bad' kind of thing.

/Lover really is an excellent album start to finish
 
2021-04-17 2:40:51 PM  

Shostie: Her early stuff is pop country that could easily be just straight pop rock with a few instrumentation changes.


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2021-04-17 2:43:50 PM  
I don't think that woman can sit quietly for more than five minutes.
 
2021-04-17 3:04:53 PM  
'Fearless (Taylor's Version)' accumulated just over 21,000 chart sales to become her seventh number one album.


Back in the day, 21,000 album sales would get you an opening slot on a 3rd string band's tour of Belgium.
 
2021-04-17 3:07:12 PM  
... good god, I'm lazy.

/sobs in filthy apartment
 
2021-04-17 3:18:59 PM  
ashamed to admit there are some artists I won't listen to. TS and Justin Bieber come to mind.
 
2021-04-17 3:26:34 PM  
I am not a fan of hers at all, but good for her. I do have to say one of the funniest things I have watched on Youtube are two drag queens dragging her fashion choices.

FASHION PHOTO RUVIEW: Taylor Swift Red Carpet with Violet Chachki & Katya!
Youtube 4tj4z5-GxMM
 
DVD
2021-04-17 3:29:40 PM  

weddingsinger: Her last three albums before this remake were all really good.

The story of why she is remaking her back catalog is fantastic.


___________

She's reclaiming her work.  Taylor Swift's name can be associated with kicking corporate greed in the groin this way.

/and also with angering the CCP via T.S. 1989.
 
DVD
2021-04-17 3:32:27 PM  

LewDux: Incorrigible Astronaut: cretinbob: So the state of pop music manufactured for the radio is that bad....

You know she writes all of her own stuff, right?

Max Martin writes all the stuff


_____________

Apparently, Max has co-written some songs with her and also with a number of other singers.  He does not, "write all the stuff" by any stretch, however.
 
2021-04-17 3:34:22 PM  

DeathBySarcasm: Straight Outta Wells Branch: DeathBySarcasm: I'm not a fan of her chosen genre, her style, or even her voice--but I respect her talent. She's a creative force.

That's like saying Chili's is a culinary powerhouse.

LOL!  I'm sure she could write better songs, but with a truckload of cash and awards, she doesn't appear to give a crap.  Kinda like why Stephen King doesn't write 'literary' fiction.


This guy can write fookin' circles around her, and anyone who says otherwise is a liar. yYt he somehow sells fewer albums.

Maybe his parents should've bought him into the industry too. Or maybe his label should grease the palms of radio stations and streaming radio services. Or maybe he should wear more lipstick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwIWj​0​uNVCo
 
2021-04-17 3:35:17 PM  
I do not particularly care for Taylor Swift's music, personality or way of going about her business.

And yet, if she were to decide I were likeable, I'd probably be more than willing to spend time with her.
 
2021-04-17 3:38:13 PM  

DVD: LewDux: Incorrigible Astronaut: cretinbob: So the state of pop music manufactured for the radio is that bad....

You know she writes all of her own stuff, right?

Max Martin writes all the stuff

_____________

Apparently, Max has co-written some songs with her and also with a number of other singers.  He does not, "write all the stuff" by any stretch, however.


Sorry, 'Max Martin ghostwrites all the stuff"
/Excerpt, ironically, Ghost
//not ironically, both are from Sweden and yet nobody saw Ghost singer and Max Martin in the same place. ///Coincidence?
 
2021-04-17 3:44:24 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: cretinbob: So the state of pop music manufactured for the radio is that bad....

You know she writes all of her own stuff, right?


Except for all the times she uses industry ghostwriters (which is most likely the vast majority of the time, though not having to credit them is an industry ethics issue in itself), including occasionally one well-known enough that he can't be left uncredited.

Basically, no, she doesn't.  She likely has some degree of editorial input, sure, but sole writer on anything significant?  Probably not.

Though I should note that "authenticity" is a bullshiat metric and this doesn't farking matter, because auteur theory is as bullshiat for music as it is for movies.  If you like the music, good, if you don't, fine, don't listen to it.  Whether she as an individual just somehow happens to write in a precisely identical fashion in every respect to the industry's most common teams of committee writers and producers or her music is produced by a team of professionals working together the way it happens outside of the aforementioned weird fantasy that never happens doesn't impact whether the music's any good or not.  It's... trivia, basically.

// All that said... she farking released three albums in this last year specifically?  Like... the year dominated by a pandemic that inherently would make forcing everyone to come in to work every day for even actual essential work ethically problematic?  I know that in theory musical production could be coordinated on a remote basis to a significant degree but that's... actually legitimately not a good look, whether the 95% top-down dictated sales numbers are arbitrarily set in their favor by the usual executives or not.
 
2021-04-17 3:54:28 PM  

Todorojo: DeathBySarcasm: Straight Outta Wells Branch: DeathBySarcasm: I'm not a fan of her chosen genre, her style, or even her voice--but I respect her talent. She's a creative force.

That's like saying Chili's is a culinary powerhouse.

LOL!  I'm sure she could write better songs, but with a truckload of cash and awards, she doesn't appear to give a crap.  Kinda like why Stephen King doesn't write 'literary' fiction.

This guy can write fookin' circles around her, and anyone who says otherwise is a liar. yYt he somehow sells fewer albums.

Maybe his parents should've bought him into the industry too. Or maybe his label should grease the palms of radio stations and streaming radio services. Or maybe he should wear more lipstick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwIWj0​uNVCo


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2021-04-17 3:58:19 PM  
I admire anyone who's been less lazy than me for the past 13 months. Good for her; I haven't heard many of her songs, but I've liked what I've heard.
 
2021-04-17 3:58:58 PM  
Incorrigible Astronaut: You know she writes all of her own stuff, right?

I used to look down on performers who didn't also write, but there are a lot of writers out there who just don't have the talent to perform their work.  I don't have an issue with the jobs being specialized, what I dislike is when a performer uses their position to get a writing credit they don't deserve so they can pretend they're multi-talented and grab a bit more of the profits away from the true creator of the work.

But when someone comes along who can create the work AND perform it?  I love it even more.  There's something special about seeing the person who made the art perform the art.

As for Swift herself, I don't listen to her music, but I caught her on the Graham Norton show a few years ago and was in awe of the grace and class with which she handled herself.
 
2021-04-17 4:07:25 PM  
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2021-04-17 4:13:17 PM  

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She's about to pull that fire alarm, too. Swift is so metal!
 
2021-04-17 4:13:39 PM  

Todorojo: This guy can write fookin' circles around her, and anyone who says otherwise is a liar. yYt he somehow sells fewer albums.

Maybe his parents should've bought him into the industry too. Or maybe his label should grease the palms of radio stations and streaming radio services. Or maybe he should wear more lipstick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwIWj0​uNVCo


Someone sounds bitter.

Look, he's good, but the other problem you leave out is that sort of stripped down Americana sound just isn't massively popular. An established artist can do it and get accolades, but if they tried to keep doing it they would quickly become sort of a niche act.
 
2021-04-17 4:16:07 PM  
 
2021-04-17 4:19:37 PM  

DeathBySarcasm: Shostie: DeathBySarcasm: I'm not a fan of her chosen genre, her style, or even her voice--but I respect her talent. She's a creative force.

I decided to give her a shot a while back and went through most of her albums. At the risk of sounding like Patrick Bateman ranting about Huey Lewis and the News, here is my assessment:

Her early stuff is pop country that could easily be just straight pop rock with a few instrumentation changes.

Her third album, Red, starts more clearly transitioning from country to pop. It's a good album, albeit with some surprisingly dark undertones.

1989 she drops all pretenses of country and goes straight pop. There's some good stuff on there.

Reputation is meh. I'm not a fan.

Lover is a great album. I recommend it.

I haven't had a chance to listen to her latest three albums, but I've heard good things.

Yeah... it's just not my thing. Not judging it. I keep tabs on Swift, in case she has a 'Feck everyone, I'm making a Pet Sounds album' epiphany.


Well now I'm curious to see Taylor Swift release a redone Pet Sounds album; maybe along with Sgt. Peppers
 
2021-04-17 4:20:46 PM  

Todorojo: DeathBySarcasm: Straight Outta Wells Branch: DeathBySarcasm: I'm not a fan of her chosen genre, her style, or even her voice--but I respect her talent. She's a creative force.

That's like saying Chili's is a culinary powerhouse.

LOL!  I'm sure she could write better songs, but with a truckload of cash and awards, she doesn't appear to give a crap.  Kinda like why Stephen King doesn't write 'literary' fiction.

This guy can write fookin' circles around her, and anyone who says otherwise is a liar. yYt he somehow sells fewer albums.

Maybe his parents should've bought him into the industry too. Or maybe his label should grease the palms of radio stations and streaming radio services. Or maybe he should wear more lipstick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwIWj0​uNVCo


Moreland is this year's William Elliot Whitmore, with a side of fries.
 
2021-04-17 4:20:50 PM  

shoegaze99: Shostie: I haven't had a chance to listen to her latest three albums, but I've heard good things.

If you enjoyed Lover, you'll probably adore the last two (Folklore and Evermore). Most of the pop sheen is stripped away. It's just songs and stories, often about fictional characters rather than herself, and her collab with the dude from The National expands the sonic palette in a nice way. It's by far her best work -- I don't think it's even close -- and it's work that largely leaves behind the last bits of teen girl angst that was in her music.

Even the few songs that still have it are part of a larger narrative and mix up the formula, such as one from the perspective of the boy. She also has songs about addiction, faking it due to insecurity, about going through the motions in life, complacency in older relationships, and other things that get outside the box she's been in.

As someone who is very much NOT a young woman angsty about a breakup, it's the first time I've heard material from her that actually resonates with me in some way. Even the music itself is good, too.

They are legit good work, well worth the praise they'd gotten, and have turned me from an idle listener who casually enjoyed some of her pop hooks to a genuine fan. I've had both records on repeat all year.

Never for a moment thought I, a hairy middle-aged dude who leans towards noisy rock, experimental sonics and walls of sound, would ever genuinely be into Taylor Swift's work, but Folklore and Evermore converted me. They're great records and well worth a listen.


I really like this one off of Evermore.

Taylor Swift - cowboy like me (Official Lyric Video)
Youtube YPlNBb6I8qU
 
2021-04-17 4:22:44 PM  
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2021-04-17 4:27:19 PM  
I'm also fond of this one from Folklore:

Taylor Swift - mirrorball (Official Lyric Video)
Youtube KaM1bCuG4xo
 
2021-04-17 4:29:13 PM  
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2021-04-17 4:47:03 PM  

JammerJim: Todorojo: This guy can write fookin' circles around her, and anyone who says otherwise is a liar. yYt he somehow sells fewer albums.

Maybe his parents should've bought him into the industry too. Or maybe his label should grease the palms of radio stations and streaming radio services. Or maybe he should wear more lipstick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwIWj0​uNVCo

Someone sounds bitter.

Look, he's good, but the other problem you leave out is that sort of stripped down Americana sound just isn't massively popular. An established artist can do it and get accolades, but if they tried to keep doing it they would quickly become sort of a niche act.


Ain't We Gold
Youtube pl91Up1uWFI
 
2021-04-17 4:48:52 PM  

Wellon Dowd: [Fark user image 850x808]


DeathBySarcasm: William Elliot Whitmore


Moreland has an authenticity that Whitmore lacks.

I'm sorry you're unable to hear it.
 
2021-04-17 4:53:04 PM  
Anyone ever notice that she looks like Becky.
 
2021-04-17 4:54:30 PM  

JammerJim: Todorojo: This guy can write fookin' circles around her, and anyone who says otherwise is a liar. yYt he somehow sells fewer albums.

Maybe his parents should've bought him into the industry too. Or maybe his label should grease the palms of radio stations and streaming radio services. Or maybe he should wear more lipstick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwIWj0​uNVCo

Someone sounds bitter.

Look, he's good, but the other problem you leave out is that sort of stripped down Americana sound just isn't massively popular. An established artist can do it and get accolades, but if they tried to keep doing it they would quickly become sort of a niche act.


What a niche act might look like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgWwT​r​PeUgA

Ya' know who sold a lot of records? Garth Brooks.

Ya' know who f**ckin' sucks? Garth Brooks.
 
2021-04-17 4:56:30 PM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: DeathBySarcasm: I'm not a fan of her chosen genre, her style, or even her voice--but I respect her talent. She's a creative force.

That's like saying Chili's is a culinary powerhouse.


That

And yes, there's a reason I didn't say she sucks
 
2021-04-17 4:57:17 PM  
At least you have music in your lives
 
2021-04-17 5:00:27 PM  

JammerJim: Todorojo: This guy can write fookin' circles around her, and anyone who says otherwise is a liar. yYt he somehow sells fewer albums.

Maybe his parents should've bought him into the industry too. Or maybe his label should grease the palms of radio stations and streaming radio services. Or maybe he should wear more lipstick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwIWj0​uNVCo

Someone sounds bitter.

Look, he's good, but the other problem you leave out is that sort of stripped down Americana sound just isn't massively popular. An established artist can do it and get accolades, but if they tried to keep doing it they would quickly become sort of a niche act.


Bitter. Yes, you nailed it. You're much, much too good at this.

I yield.
 
2021-04-17 5:03:21 PM  

Get Rich or Try Dyin': JammerJim: Todorojo: This guy can write fookin' circles around her, and anyone who says otherwise is a liar. yYt he somehow sells fewer albums.

Maybe his parents should've bought him into the industry too. Or maybe his label should grease the palms of radio stations and streaming radio services. Or maybe he should wear more lipstick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwIWj0​uNVCo

Someone sounds bitter.

Look, he's good, but the other problem you leave out is that sort of stripped down Americana sound just isn't massively popular. An established artist can do it and get accolades, but if they tried to keep doing it they would quickly become sort of a niche act.

[YouTube video: Ain't We Gold]


He didn't strip down his sound until this latest album.
Sad Baptist Rain
Youtube Mqt0ZWLsFDE
 
2021-04-17 5:08:32 PM  

Todorojo: Wellon Dowd: [Fark user image 850x808]

DeathBySarcasm: William Elliot Whitmore

Moreland has an authenticity that Whitmore lacks.

I'm sorry you're unable to hear it.


You mean like Daniel Johnston autenticity, but fat instead of mentally ill?  That has nothing to do with the musical ear, which is where Taylor Swift would pile drive any of the above.  And I'm saying that as someone who doesn't particularly like Taylor Swift.
 
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