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2021-04-17 5:52:03 AM  
Who the f*ck buys a treadmill for their child?! Oh, possibly in the US because of all the obesity, but still...
 
2021-04-17 6:14:35 AM  

uttertosh: Who the f*ck buys a treadmill for their child?! Oh, possibly in the US because of all the obesity, but still...


Nobody, which is Peleton's point here.  Their instructions say no one under 16, no pets, etc.  Apparently more than once.  So... yeah - little kids have been injured here, but WTF were they doing near the thing while it was operative?
 
2021-04-17 6:15:24 AM  

uttertosh: Who the f*ck buys a treadmill for their child?! Oh, possibly in the US because of all the obesity, but still...


apparently someone with $4300 to spare.
 
2021-04-17 6:17:15 AM  
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2021-04-17 6:29:13 AM  
I designed a new product, it's a peloton couch with an attached screen that has custom videos that tell you to get up and do chores instead of laying around all day. I call it the PeloMom.
 
2021-04-17 6:49:13 AM  
You know why exercise equipment, home appliances, and other goods sold include that manual you didn't read with the page warning, "Don't let your idiot kids use this thing"? This is why.
 
2021-04-17 6:53:45 AM  

uttertosh: Who the f*ck buys a treadmill for their child?! Oh, possibly in the US because of all the obesity, but still...


If you read a story about a little kid hurting himself with a kitchen knife, would you assume the knife was intentionally bought for and given to the child as a toy?
 
2021-04-17 6:53:58 AM  

tjsands1118: I designed a new product, it's a peloton couch with an attached screen that has custom videos that tell you to get up and do chores instead of laying around all day. I call it the PeloMom.


How much?
 
2021-04-17 7:07:55 AM  
Having seen a fail video or two, my impression is that just about any tread mill has the power to f*ck your sh*t right the heck up if misused. What makes Peloton's uniquely dangerous?
 
2021-04-17 7:09:13 AM  

tjsands1118: I designed a new product, it's a peloton couch with an attached screen that has custom videos that tell you to get up and do chores instead of laying around all day. I call it the PeloMom.


We're going to need a meeting. I also designed a device called the PeloMom. It does... something else.
 
2021-04-17 7:11:35 AM  
Friction , I did not read the article, But I bet friction had a role in it.

Sad , Poor lil farker.
 
2021-04-17 7:26:23 AM  
Disclaimer, I design medical products and this isn't a medical product.

However, a lot of the risks and rules in medical products apply to consumer products too. In the last 15 years there has been a change in the way that governments view medical products and what must be done to make them safe and therefore allowed to be sold. It all boils down to people no longer read or observe warning labels of any type.

Medical products have to be designed to protect the user and operator from doing anything that would cause harm to the patient and warning labels, manuals, instructions can not be considered when determining if a product is unsafe. For instance, let's say say people are cutting themselves with a knife even thought the instructions clearly lay out how to use it. The manufacturer may think, hey, let's put a warning label on the knife to keep the sharp bit away from the operator. Doesn't matter, doesn't reduce the risk in the eyes of regulatory bodies. You have to recall because people don't read or interpret instructions.

Bring that back around to this story. Peletons defense is that they are telling people not to do it. That's not going to go very far even in the commercial world. You change your product to withstand stupidity or take it off the market. The alternative is to get sued into oblivion.
 
2021-04-17 7:40:33 AM  

poorjon: Having seen a fail video or two, my impression is that just about any tread mill has the power to f*ck your sh*t right the heck up if misused. What makes Peloton's uniquely dangerous?


Yes, watching most treadmill fail videos you would wonder how you could find your kid crushed underneath one.

Watching videos of peloton treadmills pop exercise balls like a child's head you might not wonder.
 
2021-04-17 7:51:28 AM  

poorjon: Having seen a fail video or two, my impression is that just about any tread mill has the power to f*ck your sh*t right the heck up if misused. What makes Peloton's uniquely dangerous?


I had a Landice treadmill that was rated to carry 500 lbs at 12mph at a 15 degree incline.

Which I'd pay good money to see.
 
2021-04-17 7:56:54 AM  
Every farking Washington Post article now is click bait. It's sad that they used to be the gold standard of journalism
 
2021-04-17 8:03:12 AM  
Got nuttin'

Cats on a Treadmill
Youtube Mw7XCKaj3EU
 
2021-04-17 8:27:52 AM  
Cool treadmill story bro:

About 20 years ago I was running on a treadmill in a crowded gym.
I was listening to my CD-Man, which was in the cup holder part of the tread.
There was a group of guys (I felt) were making fun of me, laughing at me, etc.
I ignored them and kept running.

Someone yanks the headphones off my ears, just to be a dick, I guess.

I, startled, pivot step to see who did it!

You cannot pivot step on a treadmill.

My legs went out from under me, I land on my butt, and the treadmill shoots me back off the treadmill like a old beanbag chair!

Turns out NO ONE yanked on the headphones, the CD-man had fallen off the treadmill and landed on the treadmill which shot IT back, yanking the headphones off my head.

And the guys that weren't laughing at me before, were certainly laughing at me now.

My right elbow was bloody.  Pretty sure I never went back to that gym.
 
2021-04-17 8:29:21 AM  

Ragin' Asian: tjsands1118: I designed a new product, it's a peloton couch with an attached screen that has custom videos that tell you to get up and do chores instead of laying around all day. I call it the PeloMom.

We're going to need a meeting. I also designed a device called the PeloMom. It does... something else.


PMILF?
 
2021-04-17 8:31:30 AM  
The government is right to be concerned over the death of a child.  Just last week there was the 7 year-old who found a treadmill in the glovebox and killed his brother.
 
2021-04-17 8:32:56 AM  

poorjon: Having seen a fail video or two, my impression is that just about any tread mill has the power to f*ck your sh*t right the heck up if misused. What makes Peloton's uniquely dangerous?


From the picture it looks like there is more space between the belt and the floor, so a little kid gets dragged under the treadmill instead of just getting a belt burn or rolling away from the edge.
 
2021-04-17 8:35:11 AM  

poorjon: What makes Peloton's uniquely dangerous?


Popularity.
There's more Pelotons around, so you hear about these incidents more.

Plus, they're a big company with big pockets.
 
2021-04-17 8:47:53 AM  

imaconnect4guy: poorjon: Having seen a fail video or two, my impression is that just about any tread mill has the power to f*ck your sh*t right the heck up if misused. What makes Peloton's uniquely dangerous?

From the picture it looks like there is more space between the belt and the floor, so a little kid gets dragged under the treadmill instead of just getting a belt burn or rolling away from the edge.


That would be my assessment as well (also worry about small pets getting dragged under).  There is a reason models by other manufacturers keep the belt low to the floor or use shields around the belt.  Easiest solution would be to add plastic shields to keep baby/pets away from the roller.
 
2021-04-17 8:49:08 AM  
Meanwhile... I'm guessing at least 6 kids under the age of 8 were involved in an accidental gun discharge yesterday.

Glad we have our priorities straight.
 
2021-04-17 8:49:41 AM  

cowsaregoodeating: Disclaimer, I design medical products and this isn't a medical product.

However, a lot of the risks and rules in medical products apply to consumer products too. In the last 15 years there has been a change in the way that governments view medical products and what must be done to make them safe and therefore allowed to be sold. It all boils down to people no longer read or observe warning labels of any type.

Medical products have to be designed to protect the user and operator from doing anything that would cause harm to the patient and warning labels, manuals, instructions can not be considered when determining if a product is unsafe. For instance, let's say say people are cutting themselves with a knife even thought the instructions clearly lay out how to use it. The manufacturer may think, hey, let's put a warning label on the knife to keep the sharp bit away from the operator. Doesn't matter, doesn't reduce the risk in the eyes of regulatory bodies. You have to recall because people don't read or interpret instructions.

Bring that back around to this story. Peletons defense is that they are telling people not to do it. That's not going to go very far even in the commercial world. You change your product to withstand stupidity or take it off the market. The alternative is to get sued into oblivion.


The problem with trying to idiot-proof things, is that the only real result is that nature always comes up with a more sophisticated idiot.
 
2021-04-17 8:55:30 AM  

imaconnect4guy: poorjon: Having seen a fail video or two, my impression is that just about any tread mill has the power to f*ck your sh*t right the heck up if misused. What makes Peloton's uniquely dangerous?

From the picture it looks like there is more space between the belt and the floor, so a little kid gets dragged under the treadmill instead of just getting a belt burn or rolling away from the edge.


Wondering if they bought the treadmill and the kid was like typical young kids, right there beside mom or dad using it, and got too close, or like some parents of the year, "It would make a cool video to put little Timmy up on the treadmill."
 
2021-04-17 8:58:11 AM  
Fat people: "Exercise equipment contain DE DEBIL".
 
2021-04-17 9:02:46 AM  
Look, I keep my exercise shiat inoperable when I'm not using and make a stink if the kid tries to put a truck on it, but it shouldn't be breaking their skull and killing them.

At worst I expect a few bruises, because it starts off at like 0.6 mph. Maybe the kid fell and slammed into something hard nearby?

//don't have peloton
//if i want someone to yell at me to exercise, my wife has that job
 
2021-04-17 9:13:56 AM  

Marksrevenge: uttertosh: Who the f*ck buys a treadmill for their child?! Oh, possibly in the US because of all the obesity, but still...

If you read a story about a little kid hurting himself with a kitchen knife, would you assume the knife was intentionally bought for and given to the child as a toy?


*WHOOSH*
 
2021-04-17 9:38:59 AM  
Killed more people than the j&j jab.
 
2021-04-17 9:44:18 AM  

imaconnect4guy: poorjon: Having seen a fail video or two, my impression is that just about any tread mill has the power to f*ck your sh*t right the heck up if misused. What makes Peloton's uniquely dangerous?

From the picture it looks like there is more space between the belt and the floor, so a little kid gets dragged under the treadmill instead of just getting a belt burn or rolling away from the edge.


That's my impression as well. Looks like the platform is flat, too. I bought a NordicTrack last summer, the back of the belt is pretty low and there's a bar/handle across the back underneath so I can fold it up. Not saying a kid couldn't get sucked under there, but it seems like it'd be difficult.

/Occasionally let the kid (age 10) walk on it after I'm done, but I'm standing right there
//Take the safety key out when I'm not using it
 
2021-04-17 9:50:59 AM  

moothemagiccow: Look, I keep my exercise shiat inoperable when I'm not using and make a stink if the kid tries to put a truck on it, but it shouldn't be breaking their skull and killing them.

At worst I expect a few bruises, because it starts off at like 0.6 mph. Maybe the kid fell and slammed into something hard nearby?

//don't have peloton
//if i want someone to yell at me to exercise, my wife has that job


I still remember being a kid, and a friend with a treadmill was almost as good as a friend with a giant trampoline.
 
2021-04-17 9:58:11 AM  
Leave it to Americans to turn the straightforward concept of a simple threadmill into a litigious shiatshow.
 
2021-04-17 10:00:39 AM  

Kick The Chair: Ragin' Asian: tjsands1118: I designed a new product, it's a peloton couch with an attached screen that has custom videos that tell you to get up and do chores instead of laying around all day. I call it the PeloMom.

We're going to need a meeting. I also designed a device called the PeloMom. It does... something else.

PMILF?


No, that's my Pornhub channel.
 
2021-04-17 10:08:42 AM  
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2021-04-17 10:14:20 AM  

Ragin' Asian: tjsands1118: I designed a new product, it's a peloton couch with an attached screen that has custom videos that tell you to get up and do chores instead of laying around all day. I call it the PeloMom.

We're going to need a meeting. I also designed a device called the PeloMom. It does... something else.


Yeah about that.  I want my money back - thing keeps getting stuck in things.
 
2021-04-17 10:42:15 AM  
Treadmills have long been considered the most dangerous exercise equipment to have in your home. This isn't new and this isn't unique to any brand.

It's a very powerful machine designed to work with a lot of weight. And it moves at high rates of speed.

This is not new:

Treadmills are particularly dangerous for young children. In a tragic accident that made headlines, Mike Tyson's 4-year-old daughter was killed at home in 2009, when she strangled on a cord attached to a treadmill. "Toddlers and preschool children should not play on exercise equipment, even if supervised," LaBella says. When a treadmill is not being used, it should be unplugged or locked so that a child cannot turn it on. If a key is needed to start the machine, it should be removed and kept in a safe place. For maximum childproofing, the equipment should be kept in a room that can be locked.
 
2021-04-17 10:44:42 AM  

Deathfrogg: The problem with trying to idiot-proof things, is that the only real result is that nature always comes up with a more sophisticated idiot.


...and then they end up in the poltab

:P
 
2021-04-17 10:52:22 AM  
Dear Peloton:

Incorporate a firearm into it. Then you cannot be held liable. Problem solved.
 
2021-04-17 11:05:07 AM  
Deathfrogg: cowsaregoodeating: Disclaimer, I design medical products and this isn't a medical product.

However, a lot of the risks and rules in medical products apply to consumer products too. In the last 15 years there has been a change in the way that governments view medical products and what must be done to make them safe and therefore allowed to be sold. It all boils down to people no longer read or observe warning labels of any type.

Medical products have to be designed to protect the user and operator from doing anything that would cause harm to the patient and warning labels, manuals, instructions can not be considered when determining if a product is unsafe. For instance, let's say say people are cutting themselves with a knife even thought the instructions clearly lay out how to use it. The manufacturer may think, hey, let's put a warning label on the knife to keep the sharp bit away from the operator. Doesn't matter, doesn't reduce the risk in the I aeyes of regulatory bodies. You have to recall because people don't read or interpret instructions.

Bring that back around to this story. Peletons defense is that they are telling people not to do it. That's not going to go very far even in the commercial world. You change your product to withstand stupidity or take it off the market. The alternative is to get sued into oblivion.

The problem with trying to idiot-proof things, is that the only real result is that nature always comes up with a more sophisticated idiot.


I agree that we're just finding the bottom of how far things can be dumbed down.

But in the case of children going in and playing with it... a PIN and # requirement to turn it on might be in order. I don't know how these devices turn on at the moment, but we could 'child proof' the way to turn it on at least.

They should maybe think about including a plastic, foldable tent to put around it while in-use. That might help a parent react to a child or pet approaching.

It's not that we need to idiot proof so much as engage in a few societal guard rails here and there. But we do have to watch how we limit things because of ... idiots.
 
2021-04-17 11:12:57 AM  

Hoblit: Deathfrogg: cowsaregoodeating: Disclaimer, I design medical products and this isn't a medical product.

However, a lot of the risks and rules in medical products apply to consumer products too. In the last 15 years there has been a change in the way that governments view medical products and what must be done to make them safe and therefore allowed to be sold. It all boils down to people no longer read or observe warning labels of any type.

Medical products have to be designed to protect the user and operator from doing anything that would cause harm to the patient and warning labels, manuals, instructions can not be considered when determining if a product is unsafe. For instance, let's say say people are cutting themselves with a knife even thought the instructions clearly lay out how to use it. The manufacturer may think, hey, let's put a warning label on the knife to keep the sharp bit away from the operator. Doesn't matter, doesn't reduce the risk in the I aeyes of regulatory bodies. You have to recall because people don't read or interpret instructions.

Bring that back around to this story. Peletons defense is that they are telling people not to do it. That's not going to go very far even in the commercial world. You change your product to withstand stupidity or take it off the market. The alternative is to get sued into oblivion.

The problem with trying to idiot-proof things, is that the only real result is that nature always comes up with a more sophisticated idiot.

I agree that we're just finding the bottom of how far things can be dumbed down.

But in the case of children going in and playing with it... a PIN and # requirement to turn it on might be in order. I don't know how these devices turn on at the moment, but we could 'child proof' the way to turn it on at least.

They should maybe think about including a plastic, foldable tent to put around it while in-use. That might help a parent react to a child or pet approaching.

It's not that we need to idiot proof so much as engage in a few societal guard rails here and there. But we do have to watch how we limit things because of ... idiots.


Mine has a magnetic key, pin whenever it starts, and the main power rocker switch is underneath it so you have to already know where it is and feel for it with your hand. I didn't know it was so far ahead of its time when I bought it ten years ago.
 
2021-04-17 11:59:16 AM  

cowsaregoodeating: Disclaimer, I design medical products and this isn't a medical product.

However, a lot of the risks and rules in medical products apply to consumer products too. In the last 15 years there has been a change in the way that governments view medical products and what must be done to make them safe and therefore allowed to be sold. It all boils down to people no longer read or observe warning labels of any type.

Medical products have to be designed to protect the user and operator from doing anything that would cause harm to the patient and warning labels, manuals, instructions can not be considered when determining if a product is unsafe. For instance, let's say say people are cutting themselves with a knife even thought the instructions clearly lay out how to use it. The manufacturer may think, hey, let's put a warning label on the knife to keep the sharp bit away from the operator. Doesn't matter, doesn't reduce the risk in the eyes of regulatory bodies. You have to recall because people don't read or interpret instructions.

Bring that back around to this story. Peletons defense is that they are telling people not to do it. That's not going to go very far even in the commercial world. You change your product to withstand stupidity or take it off the market. The alternative is to get sued into oblivion.


I've noted before that once we put warning labels on everything, people ignore them. You can only buy so many toasters and string-trimmers that say "for external use only" before you stop reading the warnings altogether.
 
2021-04-17 12:15:25 PM  

cowsaregoodeating: For instance, let's say say people are cutting themselves with a knife even thought the instructions clearly lay out how to use it. The manufacturer may think, hey, let's put a warning label on the knife to keep the sharp bit away from the operator. Doesn't matter, doesn't reduce the risk in the eyes of regulatory bodies. You have to recall because people don't read or interpret instructions.


I know this story is true because knives are no longer being sold
 
2021-04-17 1:02:22 PM  
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Fools.

You don't put children on a powered treadmill.

You harvest power from children with a treadmill.
 
2021-04-17 1:04:09 PM  
It appears that the underside run of the treadmill is completely unprotected at the back. The treadmill is fairly high off the ground too for no good reason. The tread design also provides a lot more grip as it goes from top to bottom. You contact these from behind and you can get pulled under hard. It's multiple design flaws. They went with looks over basic safety. They deserve whatever shiat's heading their way.

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2021-04-17 1:29:41 PM  

Bslim: Leave it to Americans to turn the straightforward concept of a simple threadmill into a litigious shiatshow.


Leave it to Americans to make a treadmill a mandatory piece of furniture.

What, you don't know how to walk without $1000 worth of equipment?

/yes, I live where it's cold.
 
2021-04-17 1:43:50 PM  
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2021-04-17 2:41:49 PM  
Pelo... huh?

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2021-04-17 2:55:44 PM  
They replaced the stationary bikes in my building's gym with pelotons and they're obnoxious! I shouldn't have to input my email address and set up an account just to ride the mummer-funkin stationary bike! I listen to my iTunes as usual but there's this screen on the bike with some douche on a bike smiling at me. I hate it!
 
2021-04-17 5:04:11 PM  

Kalyco Jack: They replaced the stationary bikes in my building's gym with pelotons and they're obnoxious! I shouldn't have to input my email address and set up an account just to ride the mummer-funkin stationary bike! I listen to my iTunes as usual but there's this screen on the bike with some douche on a bike smiling at me. I hate it!


A few years ago, I bought a $250 spin bike off Amazon. Not quite gym quality, the stock seat was a brick wrapped in barbed wire, but it's got a heavy flywheel and I can adjust the tension. It gets the job done.

/Thought about pulling the trigger on a Peloton, but I know me.
//Been rehabbing an injury for the last 6-8 months, hence the treadmill purchase
///I can ride with the iFit app now if I want a ride-along or tour. Haven't done any of the classes.
 
2021-04-17 8:19:22 PM  
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