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2021-04-17 1:21:39 AM  
I put buttermilk in sandwich baggies in pre measured amounts, and lay them flat in the freezer so they stack easily. It's mostly for cornbread so they're usually all the same amount.
 
2021-04-17 4:18:11 AM  
Food science is a serious field of study

/and can be delicious
 
2021-04-17 5:52:23 AM  
Well that was probably the dumbest thing i will read today
 
2021-04-17 6:07:21 AM  
Can you freeze milk?

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2021-04-17 6:35:21 AM  
Ice cream.
 
2021-04-17 6:37:25 AM  
Of course you can freeze milk, you can freeze anything.

You just can't successfully thaw frozen milk.
 
2021-04-17 6:51:20 AM  
You can freeze nearly anything. The question becomes a two-parter:

1) Should you?
2) What's the benefit?

If you can answer yes to the first question then you are either a scientist, engineer, or TikTok "star".
 
2021-04-17 7:03:53 AM  

Jeff5: Of course you can freeze milk, you can freeze anything.

You just can't successfully thaw frozen milk.


Yes you can, just as you can freeze it. You can defrost anything.

The real question is: will it remain homogenized.

The answer to that is: Yes.

I do it every day with no problems.
 
2021-04-17 7:07:38 AM  

casual disregard: TikTok "star".


I keep telling myself...someday...
 
2021-04-17 7:23:59 AM  

log_jammin: casual disregard: TikTok "star".

I keep telling myself...someday...


Are you 20 or younger? Or are you 50 or older?

If you're in that middle area, forget it.
 
2021-04-17 7:27:00 AM  

casual disregard: log_jammin: casual disregard: TikTok "star".

I keep telling myself...someday...

Are you 20 or younger? Or are you 50 or older?

If you're in that middle area, forget it.


i'm 46. damn it....
 
2021-04-17 7:34:49 AM  
I freeze fairlife milk all the time.  Use a little off the top to allow for expansion, close the bottle, freeze.  Submerge in cold water to thaw, shake each time before using.
 
2021-04-17 8:15:16 AM  
FTA: Like other liquids, milk expands when it's frozen.

Mmm, Technically, no. Most other liquids will shrink when frozen. Water--which is what most of milk is--expands. It's somewhat special that way.
 
2021-04-17 8:30:51 AM  

AlgaeRancher: Food science is a serious field of study

/and can be delicious


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2021-04-17 8:48:03 AM  
Our northern neighbors are puzzled that you even have to ask the question.

I don't remember when bagged milk first appeared in Canadian grocery stores, but we've been freezing it since then.  I know it's been at least 50 years.
 
2021-04-17 8:58:13 AM  
Cow won't fit in that tiny compartment
 
2021-04-17 9:26:17 AM  

dready zim: Jeff5: Of course you can freeze milk, you can freeze anything.

You just can't successfully thaw frozen milk.

Yes you can, just as you can freeze it. You can defrost anything.

The real question is: will it remain homogenized.

The answer to that is: Yes.

I do it every day with no problems.


Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.

/Actually, yes, you should if it meets your needs
 
2021-04-17 9:55:08 AM  
of course you can freeze and thaw milk, when I was a kid (early 70's) my parents would buy a months supply of milk, and freeze most of it. then you would thaw and shake it up and it was good as when you bought it.

however, as the article says it doesn't work long term as I found out during the pandemic. once all the shortages were over we started using the frozen milk and found that the really old ones turned in to something like cottage cheese.
 
2021-04-17 10:14:46 AM  
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What frozen milk might look like
 
2021-04-17 10:33:31 AM  
Why bother? If you have a bunch of milk that's going bad make yogurt or cheese. It's super easy.
 
2021-04-17 10:36:54 AM  
I like it when something mundane that I've been doing for years comes up as if it's a valid question. Once on Fark someone tried to convince me that ice skating wouldn't work below like -25 C because something something layer of water between skates and the ice.
 
2021-04-17 11:03:11 AM  
Yes you can, as long as you just plan on using the milk for cooking.
 
2021-04-17 11:04:53 AM  

casual disregard: You can freeze nearly anything. The question becomes a two-parter:

1) Should you?
2) What's the benefit?

If you can answer yes to the first question then you are either a scientist, engineer, or TikTok "star".


The benefit is that if you don't use a lot of milk, you can avoid your milk spoiling.
 
2021-04-17 11:29:10 AM  

Jeff5: Of course you can freeze milk, you can freeze anything.

You just can't successfully thaw frozen milk.


I've  froze a gallon of milk several time.  You have to shake it a couple time a day.  That's  all.  Can't  tell the difference from milk that's  never been frozen.  And pour some out before you freeze it to avoid a mess later.
 
2021-04-17 11:46:23 AM  
My mother had a friend that did foster care & had at between 3-8 kids in the house & every month made a Sam's Club grocery run & froze the milk. She put it in a sealable pitcher & used a wand blender to stir it back together. It was...okay. Got the job done, & the kids were in foster care. Likely they had no idea what any milk besides the cardboard-flavored school milk actually tasted like anyway.
 
2021-04-17 11:49:28 AM  

Destructor: FTA: Like other liquids, milk expands when it's frozen.

Mmm, Technically, no. Most other liquids will shrink when frozen. Water--which is what most of milk is--expands. It's somewhat special that way.


Whole milk is 4% butter fat. If you are freezing beer I don't think you are safe from explosions till you cross about the ABV of 8%:

Water molecules are made up of two hydrogen (H) atoms and one oxygen (O) atom. The bonds between water molecules are called hydrogen bonds.
As water cools to 3.98°C, its mass stays the same but volume decreases - the same mass fits into a smaller space so it is more compact.
When water freezes at 0°C, the mass stays the same but its volume expands by 9 percent.

TIL 9%, that's a lot!
 
2021-04-17 12:14:38 PM  
all that or you know, you can just stick most cardboard or plastic jugs as is in the freezer, they do just fine.
The plastic jugs will bow out all around but i've not had one break on me before.
And i love drinking icey cold milk, it's almost like a milkshake, especially if you put a drop of vanilla extract in a cup of it.
 
2021-04-17 12:28:19 PM  

fasahd: Destructor: FTA: Like other liquids, milk expands when it's frozen.

Mmm, Technically, no. Most other liquids will shrink when frozen. Water--which is what most of milk is--expands. It's somewhat special that way.

Whole milk is 4% butter fat. If you are freezing beer I don't think you are safe from explosions till you cross about the ABV of 8%:

Water molecules are made up of two hydrogen (H) atoms and one oxygen (O) atom. The bonds between water molecules are called hydrogen bonds.
As water cools to 3.98°C, its mass stays the same but volume decreases - the same mass fits into a smaller space so it is more compact.
When water freezes at 0°C, the mass stays the same but its volume expands by 9 percent.

TIL 9%, that's a lot!


The mass is never going to change. Because if it did, violations all over the place.

But water does several neat tricks. One of which is to expand when it freezes. Few other liquids can make that claim.
 
2021-04-17 12:29:42 PM  
Sure. I learned this in kindergarten 45 years ago because I always got the last carton of milk that had been sitting directly on the bottom of the cooler. Mmm. Chunky ice milk!
 
2021-04-17 12:46:33 PM  

Destructor: FTA: Like other liquids, milk expands when it's frozen.

Mmm, Technically, no. Most other liquids will shrink when frozen. Water--which is what most of milk is--expands. It's somewhat special that way.


With a lot of pressure too

Keeping ICE from EXPANDING?? (in liquid nitrogen)
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2021-04-17 12:54:19 PM  

Jeff5: Of course you can freeze milk, you can freeze anything.


Helium?

I have frozen partially-full half-gallons of 2% milk and later thawed them out and poured them over cereal.  That worked reasonably well.  However, the milk was only in the freezer for a week, and my being half-asleep at 6am probably covered up any problems while eating the cereal.
 
2021-04-17 12:59:19 PM  

danceswithcrows: Jeff5: Of course you can freeze milk, you can freeze anything.

Helium?

I have frozen partially-full half-gallons of 2% milk and later thawed them out and poured them over cereal.  That worked reasonably well.  However, the milk was only in the freezer for a week, and my being half-asleep at 6am probably covered up any problems while eating the cereal.


Just needs a little pressure.
 
2021-04-17 1:20:45 PM  
Actually weird question for the food tab. I've kinda really slacked on my dairy intake in the last year or 4.

Is it possible to lose tolerance to dairy and lactose? I'm generally good with the cheeses and stuff. But cream/milk/ sour cream is straight up pain and multiple restroom breaks the next day.

I blame the ex who swore coconut milk and shiat was better.
 
2021-04-17 1:26:55 PM  

Axeofjudgement: Actually weird question for the food tab. I've kinda really slacked on my dairy intake in the last year or 4.

Is it possible to lose tolerance to dairy and lactose? I'm generally good with the cheeses and stuff. But cream/milk/ sour cream is straight up pain and multiple restroom breaks the next day.

I blame the ex who swore coconut milk and shiat was better.


Yes, particularly if you go dairy-free for a while or live long enough to get older than you used to be.
 
2021-04-17 1:27:40 PM  

Jeff5: Axeofjudgement: Actually weird question for the food tab. I've kinda really slacked on my dairy intake in the last year or 4.

Is it possible to lose tolerance to dairy and lactose? I'm generally good with the cheeses and stuff. But cream/milk/ sour cream is straight up pain and multiple restroom breaks the next day.

I blame the ex who swore coconut milk and shiat was better.

Yes, particularly if you go dairy-free for a while or live long enough to get older than you used to be.


Well fark. Life is pain.
 
2021-04-17 1:30:44 PM  

dready zim: With a lot of pressure too


Science!
 
2021-04-17 1:31:24 PM  

Axeofjudgement: I've kinda really slacked on my dairy intake in the last year or 4.  Is it possible to lose tolerance to dairy and lactose? I'm generally good with the cheeses and stuff. But cream/milk/ sour cream is straight up pain and multiple restroom breaks the next day.


Yes.  Adult humans who don't consume dairy products regularly can lose the ability to produce lactase.  Because milk and cheese are in lots of things, it's actually a good idea to drink some milk every day just to keep your digestive system in practice.

Jeff5: Just needs a little pressure.


For those who are wondering, even at the very low temperature of 0.01 K, helium will not solidify at 1 atm.  IIRC you need to increase the pressure to slightly over 2 atm to make helium freeze.
 
2021-04-17 1:33:57 PM  

Axeofjudgement: Jeff5: Axeofjudgement: Actually weird question for the food tab. I've kinda really slacked on my dairy intake in the last year or 4.

Is it possible to lose tolerance to dairy and lactose? I'm generally good with the cheeses and stuff. But cream/milk/ sour cream is straight up pain and multiple restroom breaks the next day.

I blame the ex who swore coconut milk and shiat was better.

Yes, particularly if you go dairy-free for a while or live long enough to get older than you used to be.

Well fark. Life is pain.


Then you die and can drink all the milk you then desire.
 
2021-04-17 2:02:32 PM  
at my house i always have a quart of half-n-half in the fridge. in the pantry i have powdered milk, canned evaporated milk, and canned sweetened condensed milk. this fulfills ALL of my milk related needs (cooking and coffees and teas) and doesn't use valuable freezer space.....
 
2021-04-17 2:04:42 PM  
I don't like using ice cube trays to freeze things like stock or lemon juice (or milk, if I were to freeze it, which I wouldn't because it's not like I have that great a need for keeping milk around). I've found that ice cube sized chunks don't really translate that well into usable amounts, and dealing with all of those little chunks is a pain, but a silicone muffin pan is far more practical.

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2021-04-17 2:50:58 PM  

Concrete Donkey: Well that was probably the dumbest thing i will read today


The poltab would like a word
 
2021-04-17 4:57:54 PM  
I went down the rabid whole and red How to freeze food properly

DID you know...

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that you can only store uncooked bacon in the freezer for a month?
I'm not even going to comment on the rest of that idiocy.
I won't.

I SAID I WON'T!
 
2021-04-17 5:13:34 PM  

Percise1: I went down the rabid whole and red How to freeze food properly

DID you know...

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that you can only store uncooked bacon in the freezer for a month?
I'm not even going to comment on the rest of that idiocy.
I won't.

I SAID I WON'T!


Huh. I've been defrosting and cooking bacon that's... well... old. No problems there.
 
2021-04-17 5:49:21 PM  

Axeofjudgement: Percise1: I went down the rabid whole and red How to freeze food properly

DID you know...

[Fark user image image 850x572]

that you can only store uncooked bacon in the freezer for a month?
I'm not even going to comment on the rest of that idiocy.
I won't.

I SAID I WON'T!

Huh. I've been defrosting and cooking bacon that's... well... old. No problems there.


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I did not Otzi that coming
 
2021-04-17 8:46:11 PM  
OK, that was really good.
Credit where crevasse is due.
 
2021-04-17 11:58:14 PM  

Ragin' Asian: Ice cream.


Yes.

I remember trying some ice milk back in the 80s. Even as a child, I found it underwhelming.
 
2021-04-18 2:33:26 AM  
Several of you talking about freezing a half gallon of milk. Did you know that stuff comes in quarts? Also, I have horrible memories of frozen milk from when I was a child. A paint mixer could not shake that stuff enough to make it palatable.
 
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