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2021-04-16 9:06:26 PM  
I hate Ezra Miller as Flash

Ezra Miller as Sinclair is awesome. He has that genuine 'evil supergenius' snark.
 
2021-04-16 9:37:26 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: I hate Ezra Miller as Flash

Ezra Miller as Sinclair is awesome. He has that genuine 'evil supergenius' snark.

What did you think of Mark Hamill as Art the Tailor? Great to hear him as an ordinary character, not a maniacal or just plain evil villain (Trickster, Joker, Fire Lord Ozai).
 
2021-04-16 9:44:52 PM  

COMALite J: RoyFokker'sGhost: I hate Ezra Miller as Flash

Ezra Miller as Sinclair is awesome. He has that genuine 'evil supergenius' snark.
What did you think of Mark Hamill as Art the Tailor? Great to hear him as an ordinary character, not a maniacal or just plain evil villain (Trickster, Joker, Fire Lord Ozai).


Mark Hamill is a gotdammed treasure of humanity. He does any kind of character justice. If you haven't seen it yet, I highly recommend 'Comic Book: The Movie'. You get to see a lot of voice actors doing live-action work.
 
2021-04-16 9:56:43 PM  
I just started watching the series today. The first 40 minutes started like a knockoff Justice League episode. I was thinking, "It's edgy to just use coarse language in a cartoon?" Then things went real sideways real quick. I think the animation suddenly improved at that pivotal moment.
 
2021-04-16 10:03:10 PM  

Ragin' Asian: I just started watching the series today. The first 40 minutes started like a knockoff Justice League episode. I was thinking, "It's edgy to just use coarse language in a cartoon?" Then things went real sideways real quick. I think the animation suddenly improved at that pivotal moment.


It does that. It signals like an edgy teen, but it actually does have a black belt in karate and a navy seal dad.
 
2021-04-16 10:04:55 PM  
I enjoyed the first couple of episodes, and had high hopes, but I'm already bored with the show. It needs to pick up the pace. Plus, the goofy teenager comedy/romance stuff doesn't fit well with the rest of the show. I mean, I think it's not *supposed* to fit, but it still doesn't work.

The gold-standard for superhero cartoons is still the 2010 "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes' cartoon. It was fun, it was faithful to the comics, it wasn't grimdark and violent, it wasn't afraid to get into the weirder stuff, and it was over before it wore out its welcome. It was over too soon, probably, but still, better to go out on a high-note.

/yeah, I know they continued it in neutered form under a different name, but I don't count that as the same show
 
2021-04-16 10:15:50 PM  

realmolo: I enjoyed the first couple of episodes, and had high hopes, but I'm already bored with the show. It needs to pick up the pace. Plus, the goofy teenager comedy/romance stuff doesn't fit well with the rest of the show. I mean, I think it's not *supposed* to fit, but it still doesn't work.

The gold-standard for superhero cartoons is still the 2010 "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes' cartoon. It was fun, it was faithful to the comics, it wasn't grimdark and violent, it wasn't afraid to get into the weirder stuff, and it was over before it wore out its welcome. It was over too soon, probably, but still, better to go out on a high-note.

/yeah, I know they continued it in neutered form under a different name, but I don't count that as the same show


It's getting there. Believe me, there is a definite direction to the story with some very decent reveals of what's really going on. Stick with it for the first season.

And agree with you completely on Avengers EMH.
 
2021-04-16 10:30:18 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: realmolo: I enjoyed the first couple of episodes, and had high hopes, but I'm already bored with the show. It needs to pick up the pace. Plus, the goofy teenager comedy/romance stuff doesn't fit well with the rest of the show. I mean, I think it's not *supposed* to fit, but it still doesn't work.

The gold-standard for superhero cartoons is still the 2010 "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes' cartoon. It was fun, it was faithful to the comics, it wasn't grimdark and violent, it wasn't afraid to get into the weirder stuff, and it was over before it wore out its welcome. It was over too soon, probably, but still, better to go out on a high-note.

/yeah, I know they continued it in neutered form under a different name, but I don't count that as the same show

It's getting there. Believe me, there is a definite direction to the story with some very decent reveals of what's really going on. Stick with it for the first season.

And agree with you completely on Avengers EMH.

You Farkers are saying that Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes > the DCAU (Batman: The Animated Series, Superman: TAS, Batman: Gotham Knights, Batman Beyond, Static Shock!, Justice League [Unlimited])? Or, for a more fun-loving series, Batman: The Brave and the Bold? Really? I may need to find time to binge it (wish I'd known while the shelter-in-place was going on).
 
2021-04-16 10:41:07 PM  

COMALite J: RoyFokker'sGhost: realmolo: I enjoyed the first couple of episodes, and had high hopes, but I'm already bored with the show. It needs to pick up the pace. Plus, the goofy teenager comedy/romance stuff doesn't fit well with the rest of the show. I mean, I think it's not *supposed* to fit, but it still doesn't work.

The gold-standard for superhero cartoons is still the 2010 "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes' cartoon. It was fun, it was faithful to the comics, it wasn't grimdark and violent, it wasn't afraid to get into the weirder stuff, and it was over before it wore out its welcome. It was over too soon, probably, but still, better to go out on a high-note.

/yeah, I know they continued it in neutered form under a different name, but I don't count that as the same show

It's getting there. Believe me, there is a definite direction to the story with some very decent reveals of what's really going on. Stick with it for the first season.

And agree with you completely on Avengers EMH.
You Farkers are saying that Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes > the DCAU (Batman: The Animated Series, Superman: TAS, Batman: Gotham Knights, Batman Beyond, Static Shock!, Justice League [Unlimited])? Or, for a more fun-loving series, Batman: The Brave and the Bold? Really? I may need to find time to binge it (wish I'd known while the shelter-in-place was going on).


I'd say that they're tied for First.

A:EMH is on Disney+, under the 'Marvel Legacy Animation' section. For best viewing, watch Season 1 in this order: 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 1, 2, 8... That starts with the individual heroes opening stories, get begins the overall Series arc.
 
2021-04-16 11:06:34 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: I hate Ezra Miller as Flash

Ezra Miller as Sinclair is awesome. He has that genuine 'evil supergenius' snark.


Hate is a very strong word.  I don't hate Ezra Miller at all.  I simply don't care for him as an actor.

Who I do hate is you and you know why...
 
2021-04-16 11:13:57 PM  
Not enjoying this less edgy Teen Titans reboot, tbh.
 
2021-04-16 11:16:54 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: COMALite J: RoyFokker'sGhost: realmolo: I enjoyed the first couple of episodes, and had high hopes, but I'm already bored with the show. It needs to pick up the pace. Plus, the goofy teenager comedy/romance stuff doesn't fit well with the rest of the show. I mean, I think it's not *supposed* to fit, but it still doesn't work.

The gold-standard for superhero cartoons is still the 2010 "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes' cartoon. It was fun, it was faithful to the comics, it wasn't grimdark and violent, it wasn't afraid to get into the weirder stuff, and it was over before it wore out its welcome. It was over too soon, probably, but still, better to go out on a high-note.

/yeah, I know they continued it in neutered form under a different name, but I don't count that as the same show

It's getting there. Believe me, there is a definite direction to the story with some very decent reveals of what's really going on. Stick with it for the first season.

And agree with you completely on Avengers EMH.
You Farkers are saying that Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes > the DCAU (Batman: The Animated Series, Superman: TAS, Batman: Gotham Knights, Batman Beyond, Static Shock!, Justice League [Unlimited])? Or, for a more fun-loving series, Batman: The Brave and the Bold? Really? I may need to find time to binge it (wish I'd known while the shelter-in-place was going on).

I'd say that they're tied for First.

A:EMH is on Disney+, under the 'Marvel Legacy Animation' section. For best viewing, watch Season 1 in this order: 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 1, 2, 8... That starts with the individual heroes opening stories, get begins the overall Series arc.

Saying it's tied with the ones I listed is high praise indeed. I'll put the series finale of Batman: The Brave and the Bold above any other series finale of any show of any kind I've ever seen, and that includes M.A.S.H., Newhart, Avatar: The Last Airbender "Avatar Aang", and evne Babylon 5 "Sleeping in Light."

Why not watch the season in proper order? Why the order you specified? I can handle non-linear storytelling if that's the issue (no, Narnia book publishers, The Magician's Nephew is not the first book in the series, even though it does take place decades earlier than The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe).
 
2021-04-16 11:28:51 PM  
I'm enjoying it still. It's still not a game changer of a show but it's interesting and it doesn't shy away from the violence.I knew it was a violent show just from word of mouth about the comic, but good LORD does Mark get wailed on. Like, a lot lol. I'm guessing at this point it's gonna be a running theme for the show.
 
2021-04-16 11:55:44 PM  

COMALite J: Why not watch the season in proper order? Why the order you specified?


I can handle non-linear storytelling as well, I just recommend that order because the individual hero episodes highlight that character's portrayal and gives you a solid foundation before presenting you with the ensemble dynamics. Like the DCAU, the interplay of the characters is a driving force as much as the action. Just my personal preference and opinion. It's not like you'd be lost or anything; think of it as the MCU building up to Avengers vs. the DCEU (movie-verse) going straight for Justice League.

Also in the Captain America ep, we get to see a certain Canadian fight alongside Cap and the Howling Commandos.
 
2021-04-17 1:27:26 AM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: COMALite J: RoyFokker'sGhost: I hate Ezra Miller as Flash

Ezra Miller as Sinclair is awesome. He has that genuine 'evil supergenius' snark.
What did you think of Mark Hamill as Art the Tailor? Great to hear him as an ordinary character, not a maniacal or just plain evil villain (Trickster, Joker, Fire Lord Ozai).

Mark Hamill is a gotdammed treasure of humanity. He does any kind of character justice. If you haven't seen it yet, I highly recommend 'Comic Book: The Movie'. You get to see a lot of voice actors doing live-action work.


I think he has a great sense of where his place is in our cultural pantheon and he has embraced that role completely. That makes him extremely likeable
 
2021-04-17 1:31:03 AM  

Ragin' Asian: I just started watching the series today. The first 40 minutes started like a knockoff Justice League episode. I was thinking, "It's edgy to just use coarse language in a cartoon?" Then things went real sideways real quick. I think the animation suddenly improved at that pivotal moment.


I was like that, too  "Hmm, this looks like a nice, simple coming-of-age show--OMFG WHATTHEACTUALFARK???"
 
2021-04-17 1:37:38 AM  
Wish they'd dropped all the episodes at once.
Liking it so far.
Was vaguely familiar with the source material.
Has the same gruesome injuries I remember from the 10 or so comics I read.
 
2021-04-17 8:26:29 AM  

COMALite J: RoyFokker'sGhost: realmolo: I enjoyed the first couple of episodes, and had high hopes, but I'm already bored with the show. It needs to pick up the pace. Plus, the goofy teenager comedy/romance stuff doesn't fit well with the rest of the show. I mean, I think it's not *supposed* to fit, but it still doesn't work.

The gold-standard for superhero cartoons is still the 2010 "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes' cartoon. It was fun, it was faithful to the comics, it wasn't grimdark and violent, it wasn't afraid to get into the weirder stuff, and it was over before it wore out its welcome. It was over too soon, probably, but still, better to go out on a high-note.

/yeah, I know they continued it in neutered form under a different name, but I don't count that as the same show

It's getting there. Believe me, there is a definite direction to the story with some very decent reveals of what's really going on. Stick with it for the first season.

And agree with you completely on Avengers EMH.
You Farkers are saying that Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes > the DCAU (Batman: The Animated Series, Superman: TAS, Batman: Gotham Knights, Batman Beyond, Static Shock!, Justice League [Unlimited])? Or, for a more fun-loving series, Batman: The Brave and the Bold? Really? I may need to find time to binge it (wish I'd known while the shelter-in-place was going on).


You forgot Teen Titans GO!

/Seriously. Better written than half of the above.
 
2021-04-17 11:19:46 AM  

luidprand: You forgot Teen Titans GO!

/Seriously. Better written than half of the above.


If you mean "constantly rehashing the Terra storyline just like every other Teen Titans incarnation and a little Deathstroke in for good measure but otherwise no new and decent storylines" then ... sure.
 
2021-04-17 11:54:16 AM  

realmolo: I enjoyed the first couple of episodes, and had high hopes, but I'm already bored with the show. It needs to pick up the pace. Plus, the goofy teenager comedy/romance stuff doesn't fit well with the rest of the show. I mean, I think it's not *supposed* to fit, but it still doesn't work.


Yeah, the teen romance drama is wearing thin for me, too. This last episode was the most boring of the series so far, as well. I'm still going to keep watching it for now, but if the larger story keeps moving this slow, especially with how many irons they already have in the fire, it's going to turn into a real slog. Shows that only have 8 episodes per season shouldn't be wasting time on teen-angst filler episodes, especially when the teen drama is literally being repeated in back-to-back episodes, e.g., Mark has relationship troubles with his GF and then gets his ass thoroughly kicked in a fight again, leaving the audience to wonder, "Why is this guy called Invincible? And why is the government so afraid of Omni-man? The only other Viltrumite we've seen keeps getting beat handily by throw-away villains."
 
2021-04-17 12:31:13 PM  

brigid_fitch: Ragin' Asian: I just started watching the series today. The first 40 minutes started like a knockoff Justice League episode. I was thinking, "It's edgy to just use coarse language in a cartoon?" Then things went real sideways real quick. I think the animation suddenly improved at that pivotal moment.

I was like that, too  "Hmm, this looks like a nice, simple coming-of-age show--OMFG WHATTHEACTUALFARK???"

My comment last week (after realizing that I'd missed the first four, then binged them and watched the fifth) was basically posting that during the first episode I was all like, "Oh, cool! A charming new superhero series for pre-teen and young teen viewers, kinda like a modern-day Static Shock!" I'd even started typing up an Email to send to some friends who have kids that age, and also going to post about it on social media. Then I saw the epilogue. "Uh, no. Unh-unh. No way am I recommending this to young viewers." Erased Email and purged it from Drafts.
 
2021-04-17 12:55:41 PM  

Ragin' Asian: I just started watching the series today. The first 40 minutes started like a knockoff Justice League episode. I was thinking, "It's edgy to just use coarse language in a cartoon?" Then things went real sideways real quick. I think the animation suddenly improved at that pivotal moment.


i just started too. quite the cast. even mark hamill
 
2021-04-17 1:24:12 PM  
just finished the first episode. what the fark was that????????
 
2021-04-17 1:44:20 PM  

some_beer_drinker: just finished the first episode. what the fark was that????????


That was pure Invincible, right out of the original comics.  Very violent, and very bloody.

it's like every super in that world is designed to prioritize offense with little thought to defense.
 
2021-04-17 2:15:00 PM  

positronica: , "Why is this guy called Invincible? And why is the government so afraid of Omni-man? The only other Viltrumite we've seen keeps getting beat handily by throw-away villains."


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2021-04-17 2:49:13 PM  

realmolo: The gold-standard for superhero cartoons is still the 2010 "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes' cartoon. It was fun, it was faithful to the comics, it wasn't grimdark and violent, it wasn't afraid to get into the weirder stuff, and it was over before it wore out its welcome. It was over too soon, probably, but still, better to go out on a high-note.


I enjoyed Earth's Mightiest Heroes a lot, a real lot, but even as a die-hard Marvel guy I don't think it holds a candle to Justice League and Justice League Unlimited (along with the connected shows). Those are by FAR the best superhero cartoons ever made, and are some of the best superhero stuff ever made for the screen period.

That Avengers show was very good and tickled all my Marvel fanboy buttons, but JL was in a league of its own.
 
2021-04-17 2:53:40 PM  

brigid_fitch: Ragin' Asian: I just started watching the series today. The first 40 minutes started like a knockoff Justice League episode. I was thinking, "It's edgy to just use coarse language in a cartoon?" Then things went real sideways real quick. I think the animation suddenly improved at that pivotal moment.

I was like that, too  "Hmm, this looks like a nice, simple coming-of-age show--OMFG WHATTHEACTUALFARK???"


The comic was much the same. Probably even MORE shocking, since the comic tone was so cotton candy light and it wasn't surrounded by a bunch of other hyper-violent twists like The Boys (which came out around four years later).

For five issues you're reading this wonderful throwback comic that read like a homage to Ditko & Lee-era Spider-Man, then in a blink there are guts all over the page.

It was shocking as hell, and actually pissed off a lot of readers who had been sharing the book with their kids up until that point, since the switch in tone was not telegraphed or advertised.

I didn't finish the series, but I did get more than 100 issues into it, so it had something going for it.
 
2021-04-17 3:33:29 PM  
Just watched 6 and was pleasantly surprised by a fairly minor thing. During the beginning Eve's symbol was still wrong but by the time she got to the jungle it was right. So they must have been halfway through animating the episode when 1 was released and the internet started complaining about it.
 
2021-04-17 3:56:52 PM  

Noah_Tall: Just watched 6 and was pleasantly surprised by a fairly minor thing. During the beginning Eve's symbol was still wrong but by the time she got to the jungle it was right. So they must have been halfway through animating the episode when 1 was released and the internet started complaining about it.


I've never read the comics, so when she was first introduced I thought the character's name was Adam-Eve, not Atom Eve, and since her symbol was drawn as the female symbol with an X through it, I assumed she was a trans character.
 
2021-04-17 4:29:37 PM  

Noah_Tall: Just watched 6 and was pleasantly surprised by a fairly minor thing. During the beginning Eve's symbol was still wrong but by the time she got to the jungle it was right. So they must have been halfway through animating the episode when 1 was released and the internet started complaining about it.

She read the Internet posts and used her molecular powers to change the symbol on her way to the jungle.
 
2021-04-17 7:49:10 PM  

positronica: realmolo: I enjoyed the first couple of episodes, and had high hopes, but I'm already bored with the show. It needs to pick up the pace. Plus, the goofy teenager comedy/romance stuff doesn't fit well with the rest of the show. I mean, I think it's not *supposed* to fit, but it still doesn't work.

Yeah, the teen romance drama is wearing thin for me, too. This last episode was the most boring of the series so far, as well. I'm still going to keep watching it for now, but if the larger story keeps moving this slow, especially with how many irons they already have in the fire, it's going to turn into a real slog. Shows that only have 8 episodes per season shouldn't be wasting time on teen-angst filler episodes, especially when the teen drama is literally being repeated in back-to-back episodes, e.g., Mark has relationship troubles with his GF and then gets his ass thoroughly kicked in a fight again, leaving the audience to wonder, "Why is this guy called Invincible? And why is the government so afraid of Omni-man? The only other Viltrumite we've seen keeps getting beat handily by throw-away villains."


This part is kind of like the Age of Ulton equivalent in the MCU: an ultimately pointless speedbump other than to setup emotional stakes and motivations down the line. Mark is developing as a character and his values and viewpoints need to be properly established.

/Also, if it's only eight episodes I REALLY hope they already have a second season confirmed because the only moderately decent season conclusion point is just one massive cliffhanger
 
2021-04-17 10:13:27 PM  

positronica: Noah_Tall: Just watched 6 and was pleasantly surprised by a fairly minor thing. During the beginning Eve's symbol was still wrong but by the time she got to the jungle it was right. So they must have been halfway through animating the episode when 1 was released and the internet started complaining about it.

I've never read the comics, so when she was first introduced I thought the character's name was Adam-Eve, not Atom Eve, and since her symbol was drawn as the female symbol with an X through it, I assumed she was a trans character.

COMALite J: She read the Internet posts and used her molecular powers to change the symbol on her way to the jungle.

In all serious, though, I do wonder how she got beat up so easily in previous episodes, since this episode shows that she's basically the equivalent of Owen "Molecule Man" Reece in Marvel comics, and he's arguably the most powerful human character Marvel ever had until the likes of Sentry and Blue Marvel were created (I don't think I've actually read a Blue Marvel story), at least equal to Franklin Richards.
 
2021-04-17 10:18:04 PM  

COMALite J: positronica: Noah_Tall: Just watched 6 and was pleasantly surprised by a fairly minor thing. During the beginning Eve's symbol was still wrong but by the time she got to the jungle it was right. So they must have been halfway through animating the episode when 1 was released and the internet started complaining about it.

I've never read the comics, so when she was first introduced I thought the character's name was Adam-Eve, not Atom Eve, and since her symbol was drawn as the female symbol with an X through it, I assumed she was a trans character.
COMALite J: She read the Internet posts and used her molecular powers to change the symbol on her way to the jungle.
In all serious, though, I do wonder how she got beat up so easily in previous episodes, since this episode shows that she's basically the equivalent of Owen "Molecule Man" Reece in Marvel comics, and he's arguably the most powerful human character Marvel ever had until the likes of Sentry and Blue Marvel were created (I don't think I've actually read a Blue Marvel story), at least equal to Franklin Richards.


She might not know everything she can do. I was thinking the same things - she can just rearrange a few atoms inside an enemy and be done with them.

Maybe she refuses to do so?
 
2021-04-18 2:04:43 AM  
Robot has a manbun and it fills me with rage.
 
2021-04-18 2:59:35 AM  

leeksfromchichis: Robot has a manbun and it fills me with rage.

And he sounds like Syler and NuSpock.
 
2021-04-18 4:25:40 AM  
I was looking forward to this show until l saw the first episode. It looks like every other shtty television superhero cartoon. Ugly, stilted looking animation that, in fact, looks the way animatics used to look decades ago. Nothing is moving except a few repetitive actions in the background while the foreground characters gesture with their one moving arm and they might get to nod a little. Glitches everywhere. I just can't get into it and I wonder who the hell watches stuff like this.
 
2021-04-18 6:27:04 AM  

Plaster Lion: I was looking forward to this show until l saw the first episode. It looks like every other shtty television superhero cartoon. Ugly, stilted looking animation that, in fact, looks the way animatics used to look decades ago. Nothing is moving except a few repetitive actions in the background while the foreground characters gesture with their one moving arm and they might get to nod a little. Glitches everywhere. I just can't get into it and I wonder who the hell watches stuff like this.


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2021-04-18 7:45:19 AM  

Plaster Lion: I was looking forward to this show until l saw the first episode. It looks like every other shtty television superhero cartoon. Ugly, stilted looking animation that, in fact, looks the way animatics used to look decades ago. Nothing is moving except a few repetitive actions in the background while the foreground characters gesture with their one moving arm and they might get to nod a little. Glitches everywhere. I just can't get into it and I wonder who the hell watches stuff like this.


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Newspaper men watch it.
 
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