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2021-04-16 2:33:07 PM  
"Only woke socialist communists want to spend money on infrastructure." Dwight Eisenhower
 
2021-04-16 3:42:08 PM  
It really seems to kill them to be part of a thing. They're good at tearing down but when it comes to building? They're lost.
 
2021-04-16 3:53:00 PM  

edmo: It really seems to kill them to be part of a thing. They're good at tearing down but when it comes to building? They're lost.


Let the Democrats have a win?  Their base would kill them.  Even if it was good for everybody.
 
2021-04-16 4:02:38 PM  
They had two years of fruitless Infrastructure Weeks with majorities in both houses, then two years with split majorities but with a Democratic House that was willing to play ball on infrastructure, so fark them.
 
2021-04-16 4:46:25 PM  
They had 4 years to come up with an infrastructure plan. Hell, we had Infrastructure Week every couple of days...sometimes multiple times a day for 4 F-ing years. They have come up with exactly jack-shiat. They are stalling. They are trying to minimize Biden's accomplishments so they can campaign against his inaction. They never cared about jobs. They never cared about the economy. They never cared about a balanced budget. If they cared about a "balancing the budget" and lowering taxes...why isn't there a massive annuity that pays for all of the things? Their goal is not good governance. Their "goal" is ULTIMATE POWER.
 
2021-04-16 4:58:22 PM  
That's weird as they never struggled with not having a reason for being abject shiat in the past. They pretty much embraced being the party of nothing but filth and terrorists 40 years ago. I hope they die.
 
2021-04-16 4:58:47 PM  
"It's too early to say right now," Capito told reporters Thursday. "We don't have a detailed figure attached to that, and it probably won't be, I wouldn't think, an amount certain. More of a range of where we think we could fall and begin to negotiate. We're still trying to work out the numbers around our health care reform plan first."
 
2021-04-16 5:00:00 PM  
They lost their way as representatives of the populace, became hateful power-brokers for billionaires.  There is no more Republican party, they shouldn't even get to use the name.
 
2021-04-16 5:01:14 PM  
They were all for infrastructure in the form of a wall just a few short months ago.  Maybe someone can remind them that it's possible to shove highways through poor areas?  That might pique their interest.
 
2021-04-16 5:03:06 PM  
Wicker added that Biden's package is "way too big."
 
2021-04-16 5:03:20 PM  
What excuses do they need? Their brain-dead electorates obviously didn't want infrastructure in the first place if they voted GQP.
 
2021-04-16 5:03:25 PM  
I'm sure the Republican version of the infrastructure bill will be as comprehensive and effective as their Obamacare replacement bill.
 
2021-04-16 5:03:30 PM  

Garza and the Supermutants: They had two years of fruitless Infrastructure Weeks with majorities in both houses, then two years with split majorities but with a Democratic House that was willing to play ball on infrastructure, so fark them.


It wasn't just infrastructure that got lost in the Republican rush to give the rich tax cuts and pack the courts:
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2021-04-16 5:03:37 PM  

EvilEgg: edmo: It really seems to kill them to be part of a thing. They're good at tearing down but when it comes to building? They're lost.

Let the Democrats have a win?  Their base would kill them.  Even if it was good for everybody.


Before COVID I had a coworker that was always saying this and that were socialist. He said he would never support socialism. One day I asked him to define what a "socialist policy" is in his eyes. Sh_t you not, his response was "anything that helps everyone". So I followed up with asking if I understood correctly, that he would be against literally any policy that he thought would help everybody. Yup, I understood correctly. He's since been fired for being a lazy bastard.
 
2021-04-16 5:04:22 PM  
This will drive a wedge between the average right of center voter who just wants to see results and the True Believers who will not accept anyone agreeing to anything Biden wants no matter what.
 
2021-04-16 5:06:01 PM  

Blue_Blazer: Wicker added that Biden's package is "way too big."


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2021-04-16 5:07:18 PM  

iheartscotch: They had 4 years to come up with an infrastructure plan. Hell, we had Infrastructure Week every couple of days...sometimes multiple times a day for 4 F-ing years. They have come up with exactly jack-shiat. They are stalling. They are trying to minimize Biden's accomplishments so they can campaign against his inaction. They never cared about jobs. They never cared about the economy. They never cared about a balanced budget. If they cared about a "balancing the budget" and lowering taxes...why isn't there a massive annuity that pays for all of the things? Their goal is not good governance. Their "goal" is ULTIMATE POWER.


Why are no elected Democrats willing to say this? We know it. They know it. The Republicans are clearly aware of what they're doing. Why are we pretending that this isn't happening? Who does that help?
 
2021-04-16 5:07:46 PM  

anjin-san: This will drive a wedge between the average right of center voter who just wants to see results and the True Believers who will not accept anyone agreeing to anything Biden wants no matter what.


Trump has a 90% approval rating among Republicans. There are no right-of-center Republicans.
 
2021-04-16 5:08:31 PM  

iheartscotch: They had 4 years to come up with an infrastructure plan. Hell, we had Infrastructure Week every couple of days...sometimes multiple times a day for 4 F-ing years. They have come up with exactly jack-shiat. They are stalling. They are trying to minimize Biden's accomplishments so they can campaign against his inaction. They never cared about jobs. They never cared about the economy. They never cared about a balanced budget. If they cared about a "balancing the budget" and lowering taxes...why isn't there a massive annuity that pays for all of the things? Their goal is not good governance. Their "goal" is ULTIMATE POWER.


They want apartheid and whatever the hell this is:

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2021-04-16 5:08:41 PM  
They have no policy. Their whole political platform and paradigm at this point is built around being under siege and drawing some line in the sand and screaming "NO!" to anything remotely related to the public sector.

They don't have any solutions of their own, no counterproposals or alternatives. They're entirely defined by opposition.

Its why even with the House, Senate, and Executive, they couldn't repeal the ADA. They wanted to repeal Obamacare just because, but literally had no concept or common vision for a replacement. They didnt give a shiat, that sort of public policy isn't what they care about. They just wanted to repeal Obamacare, simple as, but trapped themselves in a corner with no way out.

Same situation here.
 
2021-04-16 5:08:54 PM  
because you kids think there was no Trump Infra plan


US President Donald Trump's broad infrastructure financing and policy blueprint includes a US$200-billion[1] program that aims to incentivize a larger US$1.5-trillion investment. Proposed to streamline the stifling bureaucracy, accelerate cumbersome permitting processes and expedite real-world results, the Legislative Outline for Rebuilding Infrastructure in America has finally been released.

Key to its successful implementation and sustainability, however, will be just how realistically individual states and municipalities can respond, knowing that the federal government is contributing just US$200 billion to this 10-year program. To achieve the goal of US$1.5 trillion in infrastructure investments over the next decade, the bulk of funding to rebuild roads, bridges, waterways, energy projects, rural infrastructure, public lands and other projects would need to come from state and local governments or the private sector.

The new game-plan would significantly alter if not reverse the long-standing Federal public policy of Washington contributing most of the funding needed for national infrastructure priorities, instead requiring states, municipalities and private investment to ante up as never before. Here are highlights of the infrastructure proposal.
 
2021-04-16 5:08:59 PM  
How can I keep whining and complaining when people are doing a good job at something important?
 
2021-04-16 5:10:08 PM  
The Republicans really do want the USA to just become one big Disaster Capitol scenario. Or they seem to want the nation to implode. Or don't believe, somehow, that it will under their modus operandus.
 
2021-04-16 5:10:41 PM  

Raoul Eaton: How can I keep whining and complaining when people are doing a good job at something important?


You do know this is Pol Tab, right?
 
2021-04-16 5:11:00 PM  

Raoul Eaton: How can I keep whining and complaining when people are doing a good job at something important?


I still blame Newt Gingrich.
...that is all.
 
2021-04-16 5:12:46 PM  

iheartscotch: They had 4 years to come up with an infrastructure plan. Hell, we had Infrastructure Week every couple of days...sometimes multiple times a day for 4 F-ing years. They have come up with exactly jack-shiat. They are stalling. They are trying to minimize Biden's accomplishments so they can campaign against his inaction. They never cared about jobs. They never cared about the economy. They never cared about a balanced budget. If they cared about a "balancing the budget" and lowering taxes...why isn't there a massive annuity that pays for all of the things? Their goal is not good governance. Their "goal" is ULTIMATE POWER.


And had they done infrastructure during those four years it could have actually helped their base as well as helping what's his name get re-elected.
 
2021-04-16 5:13:00 PM  
Republicans know how to hate policies. They don't know how to like policies.
 
2021-04-16 5:13:10 PM  

anjin-san: This will drive a wedge between the average right of center voter who just wants to see results and the True Believers who will not accept anyone agreeing to anything Biden wants no matter what.


Biden is the right of center. The Republicans as an entire party are radica and reactionary. Stop trying to profile the American conservatives movement anywhere on the liberal democracy spectrum.

If fell of around 2010.
 
2021-04-16 5:14:24 PM  
"The parties don't even agree about what they're negotiating."

That's the core of the last 50 years at least of politics.

"The White House has conceded that Biden's proposal stretches the definition of infrastructure"

That's stupid.  Concede nothing other than the other side is poopie heads.

"But Republicans ... insist that it should be limited to projects that both parties consider infrastructure, like roads and bridges. "

Compromise or screw off back to Europe.
 
2021-04-16 5:15:52 PM  
The United States is the only country I know of that simultaneously goes to war and has a massive tax cut. Tell me again how fiscally responsible republicans are.
 
2021-04-16 5:17:08 PM  
FTA, emphasis mine

Some Republican aides doubt that Democrats are serious about compromising and suspect that they will steamroll Republicans again, as they did with the Covid-19 relief package.

What's their concern The Republicans are the ones that want to make it all about road construction.
 
2021-04-16 5:17:43 PM  

edmo: It really seems to kill them to be part of a thing. They're good at tearing down but when it comes to building? They're lost.


Democrats aren't trying to tear anything down.  At least I guess not, they always say "burn it down." Totally different things, for example, I've never seen a police station tearing to the ground in front of a cheering crowd.
 
2021-04-16 5:21:09 PM  
"I'm glad they're showing a willingness to at least recognize the need for significant investment in infrastructure," he told reporters. "So that's a good starting point."

No, they aren't. There is no starting point. Nothing will be good enough for them. They just want to toss their hands up into the air, shrug and say "well, we tried but the evil dems wouldn't listen."
 
2021-04-16 5:21:17 PM  
Same reason they have for everything else they do.

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2021-04-16 5:22:50 PM  
Same as it ever was.
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2021-04-16 5:23:59 PM  

Blue_Blazer: Wicker added that Biden's package is "way too big."


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2021-04-16 5:25:08 PM  

GrinzGrimly: edmo: It really seems to kill them to be part of a thing. They're good at tearing down but when it comes to building? They're lost.

Democrats aren't trying to tear anything down.  At least I guess not, they always say "burn it down." Totally different things, for example, I've never seen a police station tearing to the ground in front of a cheering crowd.


Here, it sounds like you need this.

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2021-04-16 5:25:35 PM  
The negotiation isn't between the Democrats and the Republicans.

The negotiation is between the Democrats and Joe Manchin.

And here's what he thinks...

Lawmakers like Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., who has cultivated an independent brand in a deeply Republican state, are demanding bipartisan outreach.

But Manchin, who has called for an "enormous" infrastructure bill paid for by increasing taxes on the rich, has also insisted that Republicans negotiate and find compromise. He said last month that blanket opposition to tax increases is not a "reasonable" position.

Manchin declined Thursday to endorse the $800 billion figure Capito had suggested.

"We're going to do whatever it takes. If it takes $4 trillion, I'd do $4 trillion, but we have to pay for it," he told reporters.


So I guess the size of the plan just went up from $2.25 trillion to $4 trillion.
 
2021-04-16 5:25:59 PM  
Maybe they could get some ideas from this - it even has "Road" in the title

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2021-04-16 5:27:23 PM  

Slackfumasta: Blue_Blazer: Wicker added that Biden's package is "way too big."

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Joe is very glad to show you the size his package.

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2021-04-16 5:29:35 PM  
... thinking of 800 billion as a sweet spot.
... a targeted 400 billion that is spent primarily in rural areas.
... this 100 billion dollar nightmare you are trying to ram through...
... I am only going to vote for the $50 Million Kentucky Highway plan if it is named the Trump McConnell highway.
 
2021-04-16 5:29:56 PM  
All I see from the GQP is the same bullshiat.
"only 6% of the infrastructure bill is for the infrastructure".
They have no solutions, no plan..nothing. Just vague , over simplified and misleading talking points.
 
2021-04-16 5:31:15 PM  
a corporate tax hike (which Capito called a "nonnegotiable red line")

well of course. The only way to pay for infrastructure is to take away social security and medicare, duh.
 
2021-04-16 5:31:35 PM  

GRCooper: "Only woke socialist communists want to spend money on infrastructure." Dwight Eisenhower


"Bears, beets, Battlestar Galactica"
-Dwight Schrute
 
2021-04-16 5:34:29 PM  

litespeed74: All I see from the GQP is the same bullshiat.
"only 6% of the infrastructure bill is for the infrastructure".
They have no solutions, no plan..nothing. Just vague , over simplified and misleading talking points.


It's a jobs plan, not wholly an infrastructure plan.  Why are republicans afraid of creating jobs?  And why aren't democrats calling them out on this?
 
2021-04-16 5:34:40 PM  
It's not what Dr. Seuss would have wanted.

We would negotiate with KAM-ala but we can't find her.
 
2021-04-16 5:36:01 PM  
Oh my goodness, look at all the people cashing government checks but not wanting to do any work.

Maybe they should be drug-tested?
 
2021-04-16 5:39:38 PM  
The GQP base is so enraged by the historical federal stance on racial issues (the civil war, the civil rights act, Obama, etc) that it does not see the federal government as legitimate. They oppose all federal spending because they do not believe the government should have any role in society; which is to say, that they do not believe the federal government should exist.
 
2021-04-16 5:43:08 PM  

GrinzGrimly: edmo: It really seems to kill them to be part of a thing. They're good at tearing down but when it comes to building? They're lost.

Democrats aren't trying to tear anything down.  At least I guess not, they always say "burn it down." Totally different things, for example, I've never seen a police station tearing to the ground in front of a cheering crowd.


You mean the police station that was looted and torched by Boogaloo Bois?
 
2021-04-16 5:52:35 PM  

hissatsu: Same reason they have for everything else they do.

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As a prius-C owner, i've had the experience of someone attempting to belch carbon all over my car. I sat and did nothing at that stoplight.

The next stoplight we pulled up side by side again. No belching carbon this time. His window was rolled down. I rolled down mine and yelled 'Hey, I get 45 to 50 mpg in this. You get what? 20? Do you have any idea how much extra beer money I have because I'm not spending it on gas?'

And no response. Not even a puff. Light goes green and I pull ahead only to see him falling farther behind me.
 
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