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2021-04-16 11:11:43 AM  
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2021-04-16 12:12:33 PM  
Bums me out that several generations of women backsliding in employment equality as a result of persistent misogynist AND misandrist gender norms is the butt of a joke, but hey. Welcome to Fark, yeah?

/spit
 
2021-04-16 12:24:07 PM  
Put your business socks on and pretend its Wednesday night.
 
2021-04-16 12:45:26 PM  

educated: Bums me out that several generations of women backsliding in employment equality as a result of persistent misogynist AND misandrist gender norms is the butt of a joke, but hey. Welcome to Fark, yeah?

/spit


And yet more women are going to college than men.  I'm sure you're concerned about that inequality.
 
2021-04-16 12:49:38 PM  
Stop digging her up! I keep having to pay the gravedigger hush money.
 
2021-04-16 12:50:07 PM  

educated: Bums me out that several generations of women backsliding in employment equality as a result of persistent misogynist AND misandrist gender norms is the butt of a joke, but hey. Welcome to Fark, yeah?

/spit


Don't get hysterical.
 
2021-04-16 12:51:36 PM  
This reminds me, its single Hispanic mom night at Chuck E Cheese.

I gotta get my jeans starched.
 
2021-04-16 12:54:33 PM  
Subby's mom has 37 jobs.
 
2021-04-16 12:55:43 PM  
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They can take on jobs working from home.
 
2021-04-16 12:57:03 PM  

Subtonic: educated: Bums me out that several generations of women backsliding in employment equality as a result of persistent misogynist AND misandrist gender norms is the butt of a joke, but hey. Welcome to Fark, yeah?

/spit

Don't get hysterical.


Is just a touch of the vapours.....
 
2021-04-16 12:57:44 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [Fark user image 450x253]

They can take on jobs working from home.


Possibly the absolute least believable sub-category of a generally not believable genre.

So why do I keep watching it?
 
2021-04-16 12:58:51 PM  
Does the data address the fact that many women choose to work less to take care of children?

Women should be able to do what they want, just like men, and choosing to work part time to spend more time with their family should be a respected choice. obvs gotta put food on table somehow though.
 
2021-04-16 1:01:54 PM  

dothemath: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [Fark user image 450x253]

They can take on jobs working from home.

Possibly the absolute least believable sub-category of a generally not believable genre.

So why do I keep watching it?


The acting is superb, even with sub par material.
 
2021-04-16 1:05:50 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [Fark user image image 450x253]

They can take on jobs working from home.


After viewing the video it seems those two crazy kids are already quite adept at sex and need no instruction
 
2021-04-16 1:08:20 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: dothemath: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [Fark user image 450x253]

They can take on jobs working from home.

Possibly the absolute least believable sub-category of a generally not believable genre.

So why do I keep watching it?

The acting is superb, even with sub par material.


Its true.
I really believed they were fu*king.
 
2021-04-16 1:20:16 PM  

gar1013: educated: Bums me out that several generations of women backsliding in employment equality as a result of persistent misogynist AND misandrist gender norms is the butt of a joke, but hey. Welcome to Fark, yeah?

/spit

And yet more women are going to college than men.  I'm sure you're concerned about that inequality.


What are the numbers for trade schools? That may be where more men go instead of college.
 
2021-04-16 1:20:27 PM  

gar1013: educated: Bums me out that several generations of women backsliding in employment equality as a result of persistent misogynist AND misandrist gender norms is the butt of a joke, but hey. Welcome to Fark, yeah?

/spit

And yet more women are going to college than men.  I'm sure you're concerned about that inequality.


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2021-04-16 1:21:16 PM  
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2021-04-16 1:26:10 PM  
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2021-04-16 1:50:09 PM  
Aren't they all busy doing freelance quality control testing for the Franzia wine company?
 
2021-04-16 1:57:42 PM  

Duck_of_Doom: gar1013: educated: Bums me out that several generations of women backsliding in employment equality as a result of persistent misogynist AND misandrist gender norms is the butt of a joke, but hey. Welcome to Fark, yeah?

/spit

And yet more women are going to college than men.  I'm sure you're concerned about that inequality.

What are the numbers for trade schools? That may be where more men go instead of college.


Female plumbers are rare.  Like 1 in 10 or something.
 
2021-04-16 2:09:28 PM  

Duck_of_Doom: gar1013: educated: Bums me out that several generations of women backsliding in employment equality as a result of persistent misogynist AND misandrist gender norms is the butt of a joke, but hey. Welcome to Fark, yeah?

/spit

And yet more women are going to college than men.  I'm sure you're concerned about that inequality.

What are the numbers for trade schools? That may be where more men go instead of college.


There's a huge shortage of people going to trade schools.

It's almost as if some of the people would rather complain about what they make flipping burgers or go into $200k worth of debt rather than do something that can pay relatively well but requires actual work.
 
2021-04-16 2:10:51 PM  

gar1013: educated: Bums me out that several generations of women backsliding in employment equality as a result of persistent misogynist AND misandrist gender norms is the butt of a joke, but hey. Welcome to Fark, yeah?

/spit

And yet more women are going to college than men.  I'm sure you're concerned about that inequality.


Why aren't you more upset about people generally thinking men can't raise/nurture children? Why aren't you more upset that men are assumed to be the breadwinner, are assumed to be stoic, emotionless, etc. Why aren't you more upset that men are more successful at suicide, have higher rates of heart disease, die earlier, etc. and that it can be traced back to the unreasonable pressure we put on men to be a pillar of strength they're just not always equipped to be.

I swear, you guys get so wrapped up in your love affair with patriarchy that you can't even see the damage it does to you. Someone comes along to point it out and something in your brain shorts out. It's weird.
 
2021-04-16 2:16:03 PM  

gar1013: Duck_of_Doom: gar1013: educated: Bums me out that several generations of women backsliding in employment equality as a result of persistent misogynist AND misandrist gender norms is the butt of a joke, but hey. Welcome to Fark, yeah?

/spit

And yet more women are going to college than men.  I'm sure you're concerned about that inequality.

What are the numbers for trade schools? That may be where more men go instead of college.

There's a huge shortage of people going to trade schools.

It's almost as if some of the people would rather complain about what they make flipping burgers or go into $200k worth of debt rather than do something that can pay relatively well and frequently has better job securitybut requires actual work.


The good, old-fashioned trades never go out of style, never get off-shored. I am talking plumber, carpenter, mechanic, etc.
 
2021-04-16 2:45:16 PM  

educated: gar1013: educated: Bums me out that several generations of women backsliding in employment equality as a result of persistent misogynist AND misandrist gender norms is the butt of a joke, but hey. Welcome to Fark, yeah?

/spit

And yet more women are going to college than men.  I'm sure you're concerned about that inequality.

Why aren't you more upset about people generally thinking men can't raise/nurture children? Why aren't you more upset that men are assumed to be the breadwinner, are assumed to be stoic, emotionless, etc. Why aren't you more upset that men are more successful at suicide, have higher rates of heart disease, die earlier, etc. and that it can be traced back to the unreasonable pressure we put on men to be a pillar of strength they're just not always equipped to be.

I swear, you guys get so wrapped up in your love affair with patriarchy that you can't even see the damage it does to you. Someone comes along to point it out and something in your brain shorts out. It's weird.


You mean why aren't I upset at the fact that family courts routinely discriminate against men?

Who said I wasn't?
 
2021-04-16 2:47:05 PM  

educated: gar1013: Duck_of_Doom: gar1013: educated: Bums me out that several generations of women backsliding in employment equality as a result of persistent misogynist AND misandrist gender norms is the butt of a joke, but hey. Welcome to Fark, yeah?

/spit

And yet more women are going to college than men.  I'm sure you're concerned about that inequality.

What are the numbers for trade schools? That may be where more men go instead of college.

There's a huge shortage of people going to trade schools.

It's almost as if some of the people would rather complain about what they make flipping burgers or go into $200k worth of debt rather than do something that can pay relatively well and frequently has better job securitybut requires actual work.

The good, old-fashioned trades never go out of style, never get off-shored. I am talking plumber, carpenter, mechanic, etc.


I concur.

I can't imagine how horrific it would be to have to call a call center regarding a toilet.

"Have you reached in and made sure nothing is blocking the water from draining from your toilet?"
 
2021-04-16 2:48:55 PM  
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Oh really?
 
2021-04-16 2:59:15 PM  

gar1013: educated: gar1013: educated: Bums me out that several generations of women backsliding in employment equality as a result of persistent misogynist AND misandrist gender norms is the butt of a joke, but hey. Welcome to Fark, yeah?

/spit

And yet more women are going to college than men.  I'm sure you're concerned about that inequality.

Why aren't you more upset about people generally thinking men can't raise/nurture children? Why aren't you more upset that men are assumed to be the breadwinner, are assumed to be stoic, emotionless, etc. Why aren't you more upset that men are more successful at suicide, have higher rates of heart disease, die earlier, etc. and that it can be traced back to the unreasonable pressure we put on men to be a pillar of strength they're just not always equipped to be.

I swear, you guys get so wrapped up in your love affair with patriarchy that you can't even see the damage it does to you. Someone comes along to point it out and something in your brain shorts out. It's weird.

You mean why aren't I upset at the fact that family courts routinely discriminate against men?

Who said I wasn't?


Yes! Absolutely! But Fark's not always the place for an exhaustive list.
So knock off the contrarian bullsh*t. We're on the same side, apparently.
 
2021-04-16 2:59:48 PM  

gar1013: educated: gar1013: Duck_of_Doom: gar1013: educated: Bums me out that several generations of women backsliding in employment equality as a result of persistent misogynist AND misandrist gender norms is the butt of a joke, but hey. Welcome to Fark, yeah?

/spit

And yet more women are going to college than men.  I'm sure you're concerned about that inequality.

What are the numbers for trade schools? That may be where more men go instead of college.

There's a huge shortage of people going to trade schools.

It's almost as if some of the people would rather complain about what they make flipping burgers or go into $200k worth of debt rather than do something that can pay relatively well and frequently has better job securitybut requires actual work.

The good, old-fashioned trades never go out of style, never get off-shored. I am talking plumber, carpenter, mechanic, etc.

I concur.

I can't imagine how horrific it would be to have to call a call center regarding a toilet.

"Have you reached in and made sure nothing is blocking the water from draining from your toilet?"


Have you tried turning the toilet off then on again?
 
2021-04-16 3:12:03 PM  
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2021-04-16 3:14:33 PM  

educated: gar1013: educated: gar1013: Duck_of_Doom: gar1013: educated: Bums me out that several generations of women backsliding in employment equality as a result of persistent misogynist AND misandrist gender norms is the butt of a joke, but hey. Welcome to Fark, yeah?

/spit

And yet more women are going to college than men.  I'm sure you're concerned about that inequality.

What are the numbers for trade schools? That may be where more men go instead of college.

There's a huge shortage of people going to trade schools.

It's almost as if some of the people would rather complain about what they make flipping burgers or go into $200k worth of debt rather than do something that can pay relatively well and frequently has better job securitybut requires actual work.

The good, old-fashioned trades never go out of style, never get off-shored. I am talking plumber, carpenter, mechanic, etc.

I concur.

I can't imagine how horrific it would be to have to call a call center regarding a toilet.

"Have you reached in and made sure nothing is blocking the water from draining from your toilet?"

Have you tried turning the toilet off then on again?


Caller: The cup holder on my toilet broke off.
Helpdesk: That's a CD player, sir.
Caller: No, this is a toilet, it was a cup holder.
Helpdesk: You are still probably wrong, sir.
 
2021-04-16 4:14:06 PM  

gar1013: What are the numbers for trade schools? That may be where more men go instead of college.
There's a huge shortage of people going to trade schools.
It's almost as if some of the people would rather complain about what they make flipping burgers or go into $200k worth of debt rather than do something that can pay relatively well but requires actual work.


You may not be aware of this, and I know that you aren't, but a lot of the trades are not only hard work, they require a lot of strength and an ability to carry around 80 pounds at once. This is all cool, but women just aren't as well equipped to do those jobs as men are.
They just aren't as strong or as big as men are, on average.

It's too bad that women can't get equal pay for doing the equally important, but poorly rewarded fields of taking care of people, instead of mostly rewarding people for doing manly things like developing and building shiat.
But you know what, you win--let's have the women go to trade school and join the Marines and get drafted, just like the men, so they can do important things for the economy, instead of that wimpy human services shiat. Jee-zis. They want to be PAID for that?
 
2021-04-16 6:52:32 PM  

cryinoutloud: gar1013: What are the numbers for trade schools? That may be where more men go instead of college.
There's a huge shortage of people going to trade schools.
It's almost as if some of the people would rather complain about what they make flipping burgers or go into $200k worth of debt rather than do something that can pay relatively well but requires actual work.

You may not be aware of this, and I know that you aren't, but a lot of the trades are not only hard work, they require a lot of strength and an ability to carry around 80 pounds at once. This is all cool, but women just aren't as well equipped to do those jobs as men are.
They just aren't as strong or as big as men are, on average.

It's too bad that women can't get equal pay for doing the equally important, but poorly rewarded fields of taking care of people, instead of mostly rewarding people for doing manly things like developing and building shiat.
But you know what, you win--let's have the women go to trade school and join the Marines and get drafted, just like the men, so they can do important things for the economy, instead of that wimpy human services shiat. Jee-zis. They want to be PAID for that?


So what you're saying is that women can't be firefighters, police officers, or Marines?

Lol. Nice hill to die on, and it'll be a woman that probably takes you out.
 
2021-04-16 9:47:29 PM  
I've said for years that Title VII needs to be amended to include parental status as a protected trait. (Of course, all of Title VII needs its' teeth restored.) Not only is discrimination against former stay-at-home Moms very real, it is even worse for former stay-at-home Dads. Despite what Modern Family tells us, Cam would not simply waltz back into the work world when the whim struck him in real life. And most Claire's don't have a Dad with a company of his own that she can go work for.
 
2021-04-16 9:51:15 PM  

NilartPax: Does the data address the fact that many women choose to work less to take care of children?

Women should be able to do what they want, just like men, and choosing to work part time to spend more time with their family should be a respected choice. obvs gotta put food on table somehow though.


The point is that their choice is not respected nor is the choice by some men to temporarily leave the work force or work part-time to care for young children or aging parents respected. In fact, such people often have a terrible time getting back into the work force once the youngest is in first grade or Granny has finally kicked the bucket. Americans claim to care about families, but we treat family caretakers abysmally because we are hypocrites.
 
2021-04-16 10:20:10 PM  
As long as I'm daydreaming the impossible, like adding parental status to the Title VII list of protected traits, I'd also like to see families receive real financial help in exchange for having one stay-at-home-parent until the youngest child is 13. I'd set up like this:

1. Any monetary benefit or tax credit would be in addition to any other government benefits or tax credits and it would be illegal for other agencies to count this benefit or credit toward the family's income.

2. It would be available to two-parent families, single-parent families, straight families, same gender families, grandparents raising grandchildren, to any household rearing children under the age of 13 or caring for a live-in relative who is designated disabled by the Social Security Administration or over the age of 70.

3. The benefit or tax credit would be per household, not per child nor per elderly person, so as to avoid inadvertently causing an environmentally disastrous population boom or motivating people to try to force their parents to live with them against their parents' will and actual need.

4. In households in the bottom 45% of income and wealth, the stay-at-home caregiver would receive $1000 per month. The caregiver would receive this money regardless of gender or gender orientation.

5. In households in the middle 35% of national income and wealth, the household would receive a $1,000 per month tax credit in exchange for having a stay-at-home caregiver in a household that meets the requirements listed at number 2.

6. Households in the top 20% of national income and wealth would pay an increased income tax to cover the program. (I'd prefer shifting funds away from military spending for this purpose, but we worship war. So, that's less likely than the cockamamie idea I'm presenting here.)

7. The goals are:

A. Make sure children and the elderly are better cared for without shafting caregivers.

B. Create the conditions so that families can afford to care for their children, parents, and other relatives.

C. Relieve some of the pressure from the primary breadwinners so that s/he doesn't drop dead of cardiac arrest before age 60.

D. Induce at least some people to periodically and voluntarily leave the job market to reduce pressure on that job market. All though there would always be people re-entering the market, hopefully, there would always be people leaving for a while as well.

E. Via increased hands-on involvement of at least one person in households as described at number 2, promote more stable and peaceful communities and, in turn, a more stable and peaceful society.
 
2021-04-17 1:38:58 AM  

gar1013: cryinoutloud: gar1013: What are the numbers for trade schools? That may be where more men go instead of college.
There's a huge shortage of people going to trade schools.
It's almost as if some of the people would rather complain about what they make flipping burgers or go into $200k worth of debt rather than do something that can pay relatively well but requires actual work.

You may not be aware of this, and I know that you aren't, but a lot of the trades are not only hard work, they require a lot of strength and an ability to carry around 80 pounds at once. This is all cool, but women just aren't as well equipped to do those jobs as men are.
They just aren't as strong or as big as men are, on average.

It's too bad that women can't get equal pay for doing the equally important, but poorly rewarded fields of taking care of people, instead of mostly rewarding people for doing manly things like developing and building shiat.
But you know what, you win--let's have the women go to trade school and join the Marines and get drafted, just like the men, so they can do important things for the economy, instead of that wimpy human services shiat. Jee-zis. They want to be PAID for that?

So what you're saying is that women can't be firefighters, police officers, or Marines?

Lol. Nice hill to die on, and it'll be a woman that probably takes you out.


We should add women to the draft. Why not?

Perhaps the other poster's point was that traditionally "women's work" is paid less. Except when men do it, then they're extraordinary and shiat and sometimes get paid more. But caring/nurturing jobs are crapped on.
 
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