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(Engadget)   Should commercial cargo flights be autonomous?   (engadget.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, Cargo airline, autonomous aviation startup Xwing, Affiliate marketing, Flight, Aircraft, startup's AutoFlight software stack, Takeoff, gate demonstration of a commercial cargo flight  
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2021-04-16 9:06:44 AM  
Trains?  Too easy.  Ships?  More of a challenge.  I know - Let's jump right to airplanes to test our autonomous control system.
 
2021-04-16 9:12:13 AM  
I'm gonna go with that good ole Tesla cop out of "it's a very extensive pilot aid" because if they crash a person will point AWAY from the populated areas.  I'm not sure I trust the robot to be able to do that if there's a full blown failure.
 
2021-04-16 9:12:48 AM  
Point of order : humans can deal with 'shait happens', computers can't.   Let the fun commence.
 
2021-04-16 9:14:56 AM  

OdradekRex: Trains?  Too easy.  Ships?  More of a challenge.  I know - Let's jump right to airplanes to test our autonomous control system.


Regular airplanes are too light and do less damage. Let's start with heavy cargo planes!
 
2021-04-16 9:16:45 AM  
It will give UPS another excuse as to why your package is late
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2021-04-16 9:21:34 AM  
Autonomous rockets come with a range safety officer to blow it up if it goes off course.
 
2021-04-16 9:21:52 AM  
How secure is the signal to these autonomous "could be weapons?"
 
2021-04-16 9:23:52 AM  

ZAZ: Autonomous rockets come with a range safety officer to blow it up if it goes off course.


I'd point out that the Buran was able to complete an autonomous launch, orbit, and landing... but yeah, this is an awful idea - freight should, for the most part, be going by ship and train
 
2021-04-16 9:32:45 AM  
TFA: The breakthrough saw a remotely-piloted Cessna Grand Caravan 208B...

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2021-04-16 9:39:04 AM  
It'll be awesome right up until it isn't.
 
2021-04-16 9:41:21 AM  
Sounds like someone's trying to set up the plot for the next blockbuster action movie.

Hacker terrorists have taken control of the Global Unpiloted Automated Cargo Airplane Mover Oversight Linkup Engine! Only you can save us, Captain Hero In Pants!
 
2021-04-16 9:42:26 AM  

Lochsteppe: Sounds like someone's trying to set up the plot for the next blockbuster action movie.

Hacker terrorists have taken control of the Global Unpiloted Automated Cargo Airplane Mover Oversight Linkup Engine! Only you can save us, Captain Hero In Pants!


I think this was the plot for Speed 2.
 
2021-04-16 9:59:27 AM  

Lochsteppe: Sounds like someone's trying to set up the plot for the next blockbuster action movie.

Hacker terrorists have taken control of the Global Unpiloted Automated Cargo Airplane Mover Oversight Linkup Engine! Only you can save us, Captain Hero In Pants!


I have to wear pants?  Hard pass.
 
2021-04-16 10:04:10 AM  

Merltech: How secure is the signal to these autonomous "could be weapons?"


This.

Anything you can control remotely, someone else is figuring out how to hijack.
 
2021-04-16 10:07:01 AM  
An operator will be at the controls, for now.  But in the future, all you'll need to do to get a free airplane is spoof a GPS signal.  Assuming you have a runway, and not a wooded lot.....
 
2021-04-16 10:12:59 AM  
We should try building a working rail system first. If we prove that we're capable of handling 19th century technology I say we give 20th century technology a shot.
 
2021-04-16 10:18:53 AM  

gunsmack: Merltech: How secure is the signal to these autonomous "could be weapons?"

This.

Anything you can control remotely, someone else is figuring out how to hijack.


Not to worry. They'll use Windows Firewall.
 
2021-04-16 10:25:42 AM  
Xwing?  I wonder how they got away with that.
 
2021-04-16 10:35:47 AM  
They already pretty much are except take off and landing.
 
2021-04-16 10:41:59 AM  
The Air Force has lost huge numbers of UAVs for various reasons. To guesstimate how things would go anywhere else, look at their numbers.

I have a lot of experience with automation in aircraft. As installed, it's there to assist pilots, not replace them. It fails a lot. You're constantly trying to figure out what the airplane is trying to do or why it isn't doing what it should be doing. We're not even close to ready for autonomous flight.

This is absolutely true:

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2021-04-16 10:51:58 AM  
Now we're going to get rid of pilots? How big does your seventh yacht need to be?

/ squeeze that turnip, capitalism
 
2021-04-16 10:58:22 AM  

IgG4: It will give UPS another excuse as to why your package is late


You could also get home delivery.. directly to your living room...  through the roof..
 
2021-04-16 11:07:12 AM  
Collectively?  Definitely not!
 
2021-04-16 11:28:42 AM  

edmo: We're not even close to ready for autonomous flight.


True, but this appears to just be an overhyped, overlarge RC aircraft.  And anyone who has ever been to an RC flight event can tell you we're not ready for that, either.
 
2021-04-16 12:49:48 PM  

IgG4: It will give UPS another excuse as to why your package is late


Better than Fed Ex, right Wilson?
WIIIIIIIILLLLSSSOOOOOOOON!!!
 
2021-04-16 2:39:29 PM  

ReluctantLondon: ZAZ: Autonomous rockets come with a range safety officer to blow it up if it goes off course.

I'd point out that the Buran was able to complete an autonomous launch, orbit, and landing... but yeah, this is an awful idea - freight should, for the most part, be going by ship and train


And that  in 1990.....Computers have gotten just a bit better since then.
 
2021-04-16 2:42:52 PM  

TwoHead: We should try building a working rail system first. If we prove that we're capable of handling 19th century technology I say we give 20th century technology a shot.


Autonomous zeppelins!
 
2021-04-16 4:53:09 PM  

OdradekRex: Trains?  Too easy.  Ships?  More of a challenge.  I know - Let's jump right to airplanes to test our autonomous control system.


Actually, planes are much easier to control by a computer than anything else.  Not much to run into up there, and the landings and takeoffs are in controlled environments with clear markings and no cross traffic.
 
2021-04-16 5:39:15 PM  
Autonomous, anonymous, unanimous.
- the late Johnnie Cochran
 
2021-04-16 9:39:23 PM  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop​_Grumman_RQ-4_Global_Hawk
On 24 April 2001, a Global Hawk flew non-stop from Edwards AFB to RAAF Base Edinburgh in Australia, making history by being the first pilotless aircraft to cross the Pacific Ocean. The flight took 22 hours, and set a world record for absolute distance flown by a UAV, 13,219.86 kilometers (8,214.44 mi).

Pilotless aircraft are already capable of long distance flights.
 
2021-04-16 10:34:44 PM  
Why? It will cost a lot for comms equipment that's up to the task both in the air and on the ground. You still need a pilot around on the ground to take over when it gets hairy, which is fairly often, mostly because of weather. The planes will probably still need cockpits so they can be flown manually. Pilots catch a lot of maintenance issues before they get out of control such as "the number two engine is making a weird noise above 90% throttle." So going remote control is doable but I doubt it'd be that much cheaper.
 
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