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2021-04-16 7:40:10 AM  
... slowly past the house of every Repuglican politican.
 
2021-04-16 8:08:38 AM  
Nice timing, Tex.
 
2021-04-16 8:39:48 AM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: ... slowly past the house of every Repuglican politican.


I haven't looked at the legislation in a while but unless they've changed it, I'm pretty sure that it still allows business to ban firearms and there is not a right-wing owned business I know that doesn't explicitly ban firearms in their company policy as a fire-on-the-spot offense.  Hell, at faring Exxon, you would get in trouble for just having a shotgun shell sitting on the back seat (if a security person happened to see it).  It's almost as if they actually agree with gun bans for safety but also want it to secure votes for their "side".
 
2021-04-16 8:44:30 AM  
So, not Greg Abbot then?
 
2021-04-16 9:18:08 AM  
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2021-04-16 9:18:51 AM  
At least the additional shooting victims will be mostly Texans.
 
2021-04-16 9:26:56 AM  
Where's the Texas tag? Cowering in the corner?
 
2021-04-16 9:27:59 AM  
It's Texas. If they don't allow idiots to walk around with guns, nobody will be able to walk around with guns. You work with what you've got.
 
2021-04-16 9:32:08 AM  
What winning looks like:

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There are now 20 states that are "constitutional carry", where you don't need a permit to legally carry as long as you aren't prohibited from possessing a firearm.

Something like 70% of the US population now lives in a state that either doesn't require a permit, or live in a state where any law abiding citizen will be issued a permit if they meet objective criteria (though the requirements vary with each state).

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2021-04-16 9:33:49 AM  
And Texans will believe crime will drop to zero.


/Former Texan
 
2021-04-16 9:35:03 AM  
I'm not actually as worried about the effect on mass shootings this will have (if someone wants to shoot up a place, do you really think not having a permit is going to stop them?). I'm way more worried about accidental shootings. Some people can be downright careless with their firearms, and too many gun owners have never even taken one basic gun safety course.
 
2021-04-16 9:38:34 AM  

dittybopper: What winning looks like:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 676x509]

There are now 20 states that are "constitutional carry", where you don't need a permit to legally carry as long as you aren't prohibited from possessing a firearm.

Something like 70% of the US population now lives in a state that either doesn't require a permit, or live in a state where any law abiding citizen will be issued a permit if they meet objective criteria (though the requirements vary with each state).

[onlygunsandmoney.com image 850x615]


I'm just amazed that in 1986, 35% of the US population lived in Hawaii.
 
2021-04-16 9:40:12 AM  
More hassles to vote, less hassles to carry around a gun that you can shoot someone at any moment.
 
2021-04-16 9:40:53 AM  

UberDave: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: ... slowly past the house of every Repuglican politican.

I haven't looked at the legislation in a while but unless they've changed it, I'm pretty sure that it still allows business to ban firearms and there is not a right-wing owned business I know that doesn't explicitly ban firearms in their company policy as a fire-on-the-spot offense.  Hell, at faring Exxon, you would get in trouble for just having a shotgun shell sitting on the back seat (if a security person happened to see it).  It's almost as if they actually agree with gun bans for safety but also want it to secure votes for their "side".


I've seen the businesses requiring masks and the results they've had banning non-mask wearers from entering their businesses. With open carry legal, the businesses that ban entry will have similar results I'm sure. At least they won't have to go back to their vehicle to get their guns.

5 years ago it wouldn't have been a problem. But something has changed since then. I can't quite put my (trigger) finger on it but it seems we were a more polite society then.
 
2021-04-16 9:41:19 AM  

UberDave: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: ... slowly past the house of every Repuglican politican.

I haven't looked at the legislation in a while but unless they've changed it, I'm pretty sure that it still allows business to ban firearms and there is not a right-wing owned business I know that doesn't explicitly ban firearms in their company policy as a fire-on-the-spot offense.  Hell, at faring Exxon, you would get in trouble for just having a shotgun shell sitting on the back seat (if a security person happened to see it).  It's almost as if they actually agree with gun bans for safety but also want it to secure votes for their "side".


Most have even more draconian rules in Gas & Oil. As in it cannot be in your car if you park on company property. One firm I worked at had a no alcohol on premise rule - If you went to the liquor store on lunch and picked up a couple of bottles of wine for the evening to avoid the night time rush... and left them IN your car unopened, you could still be terminated.
 
2021-04-16 9:42:38 AM  
everyone is going to need to be strapped to deal with the population explosion, (due to global warming) of rabid bobcats while trying to get their car worshed.
 
2021-04-16 9:43:57 AM  

dittybopper: There are now 20 states that are "constitutional carry", where you don't need a permit to legally carry as long as you aren't prohibited from possessing a firearm.


I've always though that people who can't be trusted to bear arms shouldn't trusted to keep them.
No one who can't be trusted to carry a gun should be allowed to own one.
 
2021-04-16 9:45:13 AM  

dittybopper: What winning looks like:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 676x509] [View Full Size image _x_]

There are now 20 states that are "constitutional carry", where you don't need a permit to legally carry as long as you aren't prohibited from possessing a firearm.

Something like 70% of the US population now lives in a state that either doesn't require a permit, or live in a state where any law abiding citizen will be issued a permit if they meet objective criteria (though the requirements vary with each state).

[onlygunsandmoney.com image 850x615]


I don't know about the other yellow states but California has it on the books but good luck getting a carry permit.  Unless you know the local Sherriff, you ain't gettin' jack.
 
2021-04-16 9:45:29 AM  
VA has open carry with no permit (required for concealed).
It has not become a lawless wasteland filled with bodies. In 15 years of living here, I've seen less than 10 people open carrying in the street.(moreso with owners in their place of business, like pawnshops or gun stores)
Most people still don't. It just brings you attention you don't need. Attention from the cops of course. While you might be legal, you don't need every cop stopping you to see if you are (especially if you're black). Or attention from someone who decides they want your gun, and just clocks you in the head and takes it.
What open carry *does* allow is lets you grab a couple of rifles and just put them in your car to go to the range (or hunting) without having to secure them in locked cases first.
There are also other caveats.  Like not being able to open carry a center fire rifle in large cities (like Richmond) unless you already have a permit.
Most people who carry, just get the permit and do so concealed, since that is a much better option.
 
2021-04-16 9:46:57 AM  
Guns have more rights in Texas than people do.
 
2021-04-16 9:50:53 AM  
We already have that here in Oklahoma - you can't walk into any Kum&Go w/o some idiot with a giant sidearm attached to his hip strutting around the store....


/Walk softly and carry a big gun
 
2021-04-16 9:52:35 AM  
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2021-04-16 9:54:05 AM  

Sushi and the Banshees: [Fark user image 432x441]


im more concerned with the framed picture of the cartoon santa and the dresses hanging in the closet.
 
2021-04-16 9:58:23 AM  

khitsicker: everyone is going to need to be strapped to deal with the population explosion, (due to global warming) of rabid bobcats while trying to get their car worshed.


Deeeeeewww Wut?
 
2021-04-16 10:00:28 AM  

Turbo Cojones: khitsicker: everyone is going to need to be strapped to deal with the population explosion, (due to global warming) of rabid bobcats while trying to get their car worshed.

Deeeeeewww Wut?


18 threads down on the main page.
 
2021-04-16 10:02:45 AM  
Of course, since it IS Texas, they DO actually have Gun Control.

You're not allowed to have a gun unless you can in fact prove that you ARE an Idiot.
 
2021-04-16 10:03:16 AM  
Good. With armed fascists everywhere and power hungry racist cops I support any law that levels the playing field. The time for asking politely has passed.
 
2021-04-16 10:06:37 AM  
Archie Bunker's Editorial on Gun Control
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2021-04-16 10:08:00 AM  

WhoGAS: dittybopper: What winning looks like:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 676x509] [View Full Size image _x_]

There are now 20 states that are "constitutional carry", where you don't need a permit to legally carry as long as you aren't prohibited from possessing a firearm.

Something like 70% of the US population now lives in a state that either doesn't require a permit, or live in a state where any law abiding citizen will be issued a permit if they meet objective criteria (though the requirements vary with each state).

[onlygunsandmoney.com image 850x615]

I don't know about the other yellow states but California has it on the books but good luck getting a carry permit.  Unless you know the local Sherriff, you ain't gettin' jack.


Nevertheless, he makes a pretty good point. If you look at the lasy century or so in America, conservatives have had a pretty shiatty time of it.
Slavery: they lost.
Women's suffrage: they lost.
Alliance with the Nazis: they lost.
Civil Rights: they lost.
Gay rights: they lost.
It's been one long column of "L"s for them, with one stark exception: Gun control.
It is one area where, at least in the lower population areas of the country, they have been able to win consistent victories.
Guns are less restricted than the were a half century ago.
That is probably not going to continue indefinitely, but it's the story for right now.
 
2021-04-16 10:09:31 AM  
I think that banning automatic and semi-automatic weapons should be part of the next election.  I would be very interested to see the number of people for and against.

I know...I'm insane.

I just don't know how that ever happened in the first place, letting citizens have weapons that should only be used during a war?  What kind of maniac actually NEEDS a gun that fires round after round?  At least if you could shoot six bullets and have to reload, a person might have a chance to get away from you.
 
2021-04-16 10:16:44 AM  

dittybopper: What winning looks like:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 676x509]

There are now 20 states that are "constitutional carry", where you don't need a permit to legally carry as long as you aren't prohibited from possessing a firearm.

Something like 70% of the US population now lives in a state that either doesn't require a permit, or live in a state where any law abiding citizen will be issued a permit if they meet objective criteria (though the requirements vary with each state).

[onlygunsandmoney.com image 850x615]


Hey, loo , it's the guy who wanted to assassinate Hillary Clinton if she won in 2016. Let's listen to this guy about guns!
 
2021-04-16 10:21:41 AM  
This is it for republicans, giving away guns is their only option.

They have absolutely nothing else to offer.
 
2021-04-16 10:22:11 AM  
They should do that with driving too! For that matter why do certification for anything!
 
2021-04-16 10:22:44 AM  

dothemath: This is it for republicans, giving away guns is their only option.

They have absolutely nothing else to offer.


It appears to be the only issue "conservatives" can win on, anymore.
 
2021-04-16 10:24:46 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Let's listen to this guy about guns!


I have. And listening to him, and knowing that he exists, makes me distinctly disinclined to disarm myself.
 
2021-04-16 10:25:07 AM  

jso2897: WhoGAS: dittybopper: What winning looks like:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 676x509] [View Full Size image _x_]

There are now 20 states that are "constitutional carry", where you don't need a permit to legally carry as long as you aren't prohibited from possessing a firearm.

Something like 70% of the US population now lives in a state that either doesn't require a permit, or live in a state where any law abiding citizen will be issued a permit if they meet objective criteria (though the requirements vary with each state).

[onlygunsandmoney.com image 850x615]

I don't know about the other yellow states but California has it on the books but good luck getting a carry permit.  Unless you know the local Sherriff, you ain't gettin' jack.

Nevertheless, he makes a pretty good point. If you look at the lasy century or so in America, conservatives have had a pretty shiatty time of it.
Slavery: they lost.
Women's suffrage: they lost.
Alliance with the Nazis: they lost.
Civil Rights: they lost.
Gay rights: they lost.
It's been one long column of "L"s for them, with one stark exception: Gun control.
It is one area where, at least in the lower population areas of the country, they have been able to win consistent victories.
Guns are less restricted than the were a half century ago.
That is probably not going to continue indefinitely, but it's the story for right now.


Really odd to read Democrats described as "conservatives".
 
2021-04-16 10:29:31 AM  

crzybtch: I think that banning automatic and semi-automatic weapons should be part of the next election.  I would be very interested to see the number of people for and against.

I know...I'm insane.

I just don't know how that ever happened in the first place, letting citizens have weapons that should only be used during a war?  What kind of maniac actually NEEDS a gun that fires round after round?  At least if you could shoot six bullets and have to reload, a person might have a chance to get away from you.


The kind of person that gets murdered in a mass shooting in a disarmed victim zone.
 
2021-04-16 10:30:56 AM  

ex-nuke: Really odd to read Democrats described as "conservatives".


That's because most aren't - but there are still some very conservative Dems in certain parts of the country. The "Blue Dogs" are scarcer than they used to be, for sure - but there are still plenty of them.
The Democratic party is a big tent of people who think for themselves, and not a cult like the GOP.
 
2021-04-16 10:32:24 AM  
Just like we have good cops covering up for bad cops, we have responsible gun owners willing to tolerate idiots with guns no matter the death toll. No amount of rulemaking will fix those broken mental processes.
 
2021-04-16 10:34:28 AM  
I'm convinced this whole "everyone should brandish a gun at all times" thing is a Zardoz-esque manipulation from deep within the GOP into wiping itself out and starting over.

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2021-04-16 10:36:12 AM  

edmo: Just like we have good cops covering up for bad cops, we have responsible gun owners willing to tolerate idiots with guns no matter the death toll. No amount of rulemaking will fix those broken mental processes.


When you think about it, it's counterintuitive - responsible gun owners should be more worried about the ultimate consequences of what all these crazies are doing than non gun owners.
That's why I support gun regulation, as a gun owner.
But then, I don't wish to own a closet full of AR-15s, or carry one over my shoulder when I'm buying socks at the mall.
 
2021-04-16 10:49:37 AM  

DecemberNitro: I'm convinced this whole "everyone should brandish a gun at all times" thing is a Zardoz-esque manipulation from deep within the GOP into wiping itself out and starting over.

[wondersinthedark.files.wordpress.com image 640x272]


They still need to work on "Penis is bad" though.
 
2021-04-16 10:57:12 AM  

Atomic Jonb: DecemberNitro: I'm convinced this whole "everyone should brandish a gun at all times" thing is a Zardoz-esque manipulation from deep within the GOP into wiping itself out and starting over.

[wondersinthedark.files.wordpress.com image 640x272]

They still need to work on "Penis is bad" though.


Funny - our kids see a guy on television brandishing a bloody sabre - we shrug.
An erect penis? OMGFBBQWHAAARRRGAAARBLLL!!
 
2021-04-16 11:00:51 AM  

crzybtch: I think that banning automatic and semi-automatic weapons should be part of the next election.  I would be very interested to see the number of people for and against.

I know...I'm insane.

I just don't know how that ever happened in the first place, letting citizens have weapons that should only be used during a war?  What kind of maniac actually NEEDS a gun that fires round after round?  At least if you could shoot six bullets and have to reload, a person might have a chance to get away from you.


We already have the laws for control of automatic and semi-automatic guns. We don't need new laws... we need enforcement of the existing ones. I have no problem with the guys who can successfully hunt animals with thiere single-shot rifles and hand guns. If you can't down an animal with a bolt-action rifle, don't shoot. If the laws were enforced, the shooters would be limited in how much lead they could throw in the air, saving peoples' lives.


/Hell, sell them the guns and license the bullets.
 
2021-04-16 11:07:52 AM  

crzybtch: I think that banning automatic and semi-automatic weapons should be part of the next election.  I would be very interested to see the number of people for and against.

I know...I'm insane.

I just don't know how that ever happened in the first place, letting citizens have weapons that should only be used during a war?  What kind of maniac actually NEEDS a gun that fires round after round?  At least if you could shoot six bullets and have to reload, a person might have a chance to get away from you.


An old guy with poor eyesight trying to execute a rabid raccoon fighting one of my dogs.  Silly me I thought the humane thing was a head shot (which has to be perfect). Now I know you knock them down with a couple of rounds in the thorax and then go for the hard to hit brain.  I doubt my rimfire 14 round semi-auto rifle will ever be restricted.  Also I need more target practice. I hate killing animals. Even the mice I trap.
 
2021-04-16 11:35:54 AM  
No,
No motherf*ckers
I say this as someone who bought a new gun YESTERDAY
No
 
2021-04-16 11:44:58 AM  
I'll give up my guns. Right after the cops.
 
2021-04-16 12:38:08 PM  
 
2021-04-16 12:54:19 PM  

MythDragon: VA has open carry with no permit (required for concealed).
It has not become a lawless wasteland filled with bodies. In 15 years of living here, I've seen less than 10 people open carrying in the street.(moreso with owners in their place of business, like pawnshops or gun stores)
Most people still don't. It just brings you attention you don't need. Attention from the cops of course. While you might be legal, you don't need every cop stopping you to see if you are (especially if you're black).


I wish that was how it worked in Colorado.  When the staff of Planned Parenthood in Colorado Springs called the police to report a man with a gun hanging around outside, talking to himself and acting creepy, the cops paid no attention to him at all.

(He was white, of course.)
 
2021-04-16 12:55:14 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Great idea.

https://www.wishtv.com/news/crime-watc​h-8/gunman-fatally-shoots-8-then-self-​at-fedex-facility-near-ind-airport/?ut​m_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_c​ontent=link


...before he killed himself

See?
A guy with a gun stopped a mass shooting.
 
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