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2021-04-16 3:26:55 AM  
JLD FTW!
 
2021-04-16 3:55:56 AM  
There us a short mid-credit scene in this episode.
 
2021-04-16 4:03:38 AM  
Submitter-Please remember to use the LIVE tag in the future

Thanks!
 
2021-04-16 4:21:05 AM  

Unbridled Apathy: JLD FTW!


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2021-04-16 4:22:58 AM  
Needed more boat montages.
 
2021-04-16 4:51:51 AM  
I had to look up the character she was playing. Despite all my 20+ years of reading comics, don't think I've ever come across that one's "real name".
 
2021-04-16 5:37:15 AM  
Back to the slower episodes, it seems. Ah well, only a week to go.
 
2021-04-16 7:44:07 AM  
Walker did not take his demotion well.

Carter is definitely the Power Broker now, right?
 
2021-04-16 7:48:18 AM  
"I don't always think of it immediately. I'm right handed."

I lol'd.
 
2021-04-16 8:12:13 AM  

Oysterman: Needed more boat montages.


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2021-04-16 8:41:21 AM  
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2021-04-16 8:49:27 AM  
So Walker joins Femme Force?
 
2021-04-16 8:56:22 AM  
Random guess for the "well known actor" expected to make an appearance. It's Samuel L Jackson doing a Nick Fury scene. It's not gonna be old Steve or any of the headline characters.
 
2021-04-16 9:01:54 AM  

LeftisRightisWrong: Random guess for the "well known actor" expected to make an appearance. It's Samuel L Jackson doing a Nick Fury scene. It's not gonna be old Steve or any of the headline characters.


Did you not watch the episode yet? I'm pretty sure that cameo happened in this one.  Wasn't who I was expecting but that actor a a pretty big name.
 
2021-04-16 9:11:21 AM  
I think I've thought of the perfect theme song for Walker.
Hero
Youtube yL1i3C2nn5w

🎵 Hero
It's a nice-boy notion that the real world's gonna destroy
You know
It's a Marvel comic-book Saturday matinee fairy-tale, boy...
🎵
 
2021-04-16 9:25:11 AM  

hotrod2001: LeftisRightisWrong: Random guess for the "well known actor" expected to make an appearance. It's Samuel L Jackson doing a Nick Fury scene. It's not gonna be old Steve or any of the headline characters.

Did you not watch the episode yet? I'm pretty sure that cameo happened in this one.  Wasn't who I was expecting but that actor a a pretty big name.


No not yet, I've been busy so I'm behind. So I'm guessing I was wrong then. Glad I didn't put money on it
 
2021-04-16 9:43:23 AM  

Wobambo: I had to look up the character she was playing. Despite all my 20+ years of reading comics, don't think I've ever come across that one's "real name".


Man I thought all of us nerds had the OHOTMU memorized.
 
2021-04-16 9:45:09 AM  
Isiah Bradley's conversation hit hard and I'm gonna farking lose it when Sam puts on the suit.

The Contessa was Nick Fury's girlfriend during the 60s era Steranko comics, but she's also  been a leader of Hydra so who the hell knows what Marvel wants to do with her now. She's a capable action girl. Basically Maria Hill + 10 - 15 years.

Incorrigible Astronaut: Carter is definitely the Power Broker now, right?



She COULD still just be working for that person. I still think it's Zola, but it's also a little too late for the big bad in the show to be anyone but Walker and/or Karli. The Power Broker was a source for Marvel super-villains for what seemed like a good chunk of the 80s, so it makes sense to me that the story wouldn't come to an end in one more episode. I'm guessing she's more of a mercenary doing what she needs to in order to get by.
 
2021-04-16 9:51:59 AM  

Unbridled Apathy: JLD FTW!


Really happy that she's both part of the universe and playing a potentially major character.
 
2021-04-16 9:56:47 AM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: Unbridled Apathy: JLD FTW!

Really happy that she's both part of the universe and playing a potentially major character.


she'll show up in Black Widow
 
2021-04-16 10:33:29 AM  
That woman looks a LOT like Julia Louis Dreyfuss
 
2021-04-16 10:37:51 AM  

frankb00th: That woman looks a LOT like Julia Louis Dreyfuss


uncanny, right?
 
2021-04-16 12:38:26 PM  

frankb00th: That woman looks a LOT like Julia Louis Dreyfuss


Sounds a lot like her too! And (according to the credits) has the same exact name!
 
2021-04-16 12:42:58 PM  
So any guesses to what's in the case?

My guess: The Wakandans dug up an old Black Panther suit and painted it red, white, and blue for Sam.
 
2021-04-16 12:46:52 PM  

WilderKWight: So any guesses to what's in the case?

My guess: The Wakandans dug up an old Black Panther suit and painted it red, white, and blue for Sam.


I assumed it was a SodaStream variety pack.
 
2021-04-16 12:49:20 PM  

WilderKWight: So any guesses to what's in the case?

My guess: The Wakandans dug up an old Black Panther suit and painted it red, white, and blue for Sam.


It's gonna be a new set of sleeker-looking wings.
 
2021-04-16 12:51:57 PM  

WilderKWight: So any guesses to what's in the case?

My guess: The Wakandans dug up an old Black Panther suit and painted it red, white, and blue for Sam.


suit + vibranium wings
 
2021-04-16 1:01:48 PM  

WilderKWight: So any guesses to what's in the case?

My guess: The Wakandans dug up an old Black Panther suit and painted it red, white, and blue for Sam.


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2021-04-16 1:09:07 PM  
So that we're all on the same page, the case was a fancy vibranium suit and wings and Madame Hydra will be doing a reverse Nick Fury to recruit her Dark Avengers going forward, right?
 
2021-04-16 1:18:25 PM  

Public Call Box: Wobambo: I had to look up the character she was playing. Despite all my 20+ years of reading comics, don't think I've ever come across that one's "real name".

Man I thought all of us nerds had the OHOTMU memorized.


Not that I would have gotten it anyway, but think my brain went Fontaine->Fenris->twin villain characters and had the von Struckers on the tip of my tongue when I looked it up. Which would have at least still fit the story. But Madame Hydra's better. :P
 
2021-04-16 1:30:41 PM  

Wobambo: So that we're all on the same page, the case was a fancy vibranium suit and wings and Madame Hydra will be doing a reverse Nick Fury to recruit her Dark Avengers going forward, right?


I'm thinking vibranium wings rather than a whole suit. Sam's helper guy is in comics the new Falcon, so he'll probably get the old suit fixed.

I think Hydra is done but hell, the Contessa could be the real power broker or just a representative. I'm not sure they'd bring Hydra back though.
 
2021-04-16 1:37:20 PM  
I can only assume this means we're going to see JLD beating the shiat out of people eventually? Between her and Odenkirk I'm just sad Harry Anderson didn't live long enough to become an action movie star
 
2021-04-16 1:44:44 PM  
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Isuppose we're getting something like this next week with vibranium vs super-soldier serum
 
2021-04-16 2:06:54 PM  

Wobambo: So that we're all on the same page, the case was a fancy vibranium suit and wings and Madame Hydra will be doing a reverse Nick Fury to recruit her Dark Avengers going forward, right?


Thunderbolts? We have Walker, who could end up being US Agent, Zemo, who is currently headed to the Raft which may very well still be under the control of General Ross.
 
2021-04-16 2:16:12 PM  

Severaux: Wobambo: So that we're all on the same page, the case was a fancy vibranium suit and wings and Madame Hydra will be doing a reverse Nick Fury to recruit her Dark Avengers going forward, right?

Thunderbolts? We have Walker, who could end up being US Agent, Zemo, who is currently headed to the Raft which may very well still be under the control of General Ross.


Sorta - most of the rumors I've heard about teams have been Avenger spinoff focused. Dark, Young, and West Coast mainly. Makes some sense to keep things easier on casual fans while adding X-Men and Fantastic Four.
 
2021-04-16 3:36:56 PM  
Mia:
MODOK
The Leader (the movie is still cannon)
 
2021-04-16 3:57:20 PM  
I was just assuming the box was a new set of wings for Sam.  A lot of his fighting style is augmented with a good pair of wings and he walked away from the pair that Walker clipped.  His friend is going to pick up that old set and repair them.  I'm just anticipating the  new Wakandian wingsuit.  Since Stark is gone, they will probably be the source of all Earthly high tech for heroes until we get a Mr Fantastic or someone similar.
 
2021-04-16 4:19:28 PM  

PasswordOptional: I was just assuming the box was a new set of wings for Sam.  A lot of his fighting style is augmented with a good pair of wings and he walked away from the pair that Walker clipped.  His friend is going to pick up that old set and repair them.  I'm just anticipating the  new Wakandian wingsuit.  Since Stark is gone, they will probably be the source of all Earthly high tech for heroes until we get a Mr Fantastic or someone similar.


I think it's wings but it's got a Captain America/Wakanda Forever! motif to it.

Meanwhile Walker is going to go from Walmart Cap to Comicon Amateur Cap.
 
2021-04-16 4:37:30 PM  

TDWCom29: frankb00th: That woman looks a LOT like Julia Louis Dreyfuss

Sounds a lot like her too! And (according to the credits) has the same exact name!


Oops. I walked right into that one. Jesus is my face red.
 
2021-04-16 4:39:28 PM  

frankb00th: TDWCom29: frankb00th: That woman looks a LOT like Julia Louis Dreyfuss

Sounds a lot like her too! And (according to the credits) has the same exact name!

Oops. I walked right into that one. Jesus is my face red.


Hah, it happens. It's all good
 
2021-04-16 4:40:28 PM  

PasswordOptional: I was just assuming the box was a new set of wings for Sam.  A lot of his fighting style is augmented with a good pair of wings and he walked away from the pair that Walker clipped.  His friend is going to pick up that old set and repair them.  I'm just anticipating the  new Wakandian wingsuit.  Since Stark is gone, they will probably be the source of all Earthly high tech for heroes until we get a Mr Fantastic or someone similar.


I think it's going to have a higher tech suit similar to what we see Sam wear in the comics, but I think it's also going to come with a note from the Royal family that has an offer for one dosage from the heart shaped herb. We've already seen each character who isn't a super soldier be offered it and what their choices have been: Walker took it, Zeemo smashed it, and Sam said he wouldn't take it but it's easy to say that when it's not right there in your hands.
 
2021-04-16 5:28:24 PM  
frankb00th:

my face red.

Red Hulk confirmed.
 
2021-04-16 5:41:17 PM  
I think my only problem with this episode.. WHY would the Dora Milaje take Zemo to The Raft?
 
2021-04-16 5:42:45 PM  

Severaux: "I don't always think of it immediately. I'm right handed."

I lol'd.


I gotta admit, that thought has come to mind a few times watching fights. :P
 
2021-04-16 6:01:11 PM  

The Bestest: I think my only problem with this episode.. WHY would the Dora Milaje take Zemo to The Raft?


True...but maybe they trust him exactly that much to tell him where he's *not* going?
 
2021-04-16 6:21:36 PM  
I assume Sam's new suit will be laced with Stark nanotech
 
2021-04-16 6:21:48 PM  

The Bestest: I think my only problem with this episode.. WHY would the Dora Milaje take Zemo to The Raft?


So we can break our later do for another story.
 
2021-04-16 6:36:25 PM  

Wobambo: Severaux: Wobambo: So that we're all on the same page, the case was a fancy vibranium suit and wings and Madame Hydra will be doing a reverse Nick Fury to recruit her Dark Avengers going forward, right?

Thunderbolts? We have Walker, who could end up being US Agent, Zemo, who is currently headed to the Raft which may very well still be under the control of General Ross.

Sorta - most of the rumors I've heard about teams have been Avenger spinoff focused. Dark, Young, and West Coast mainly. Makes some sense to keep things easier on casual fans while adding X-Men and Fantastic Four.


I can see the Thunderbolts happening. Especially as a dig at the DCEU. 'Okay, here's how to do a superhuman Dirty Dozen *right*.'

Also, whatever gives us more of Daniel Bruhl as Zemo.
 
2021-04-16 7:13:06 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: Wobambo: Severaux: Wobambo: So that we're all on the same page, the case was a fancy vibranium suit and wings and Madame Hydra will be doing a reverse Nick Fury to recruit her Dark Avengers going forward, right?

Thunderbolts? We have Walker, who could end up being US Agent, Zemo, who is currently headed to the Raft which may very well still be under the control of General Ross.

Sorta - most of the rumors I've heard about teams have been Avenger spinoff focused. Dark, Young, and West Coast mainly. Makes some sense to keep things easier on casual fans while adding X-Men and Fantastic Four.

I can see the Thunderbolts happening. Especially as a dig at the DCEU. 'Okay, here's how to do a superhuman Dirty Dozen *right*.'

Also, whatever gives us more of Daniel Bruhl as Zemo.


Can we add Justin Hammer because I want a dance off.
 
2021-04-16 7:13:10 PM  
Man I'm really digging the Sam and Bucky boat fixing vibe.  I would watch this show for an hour a week just the two of them going around A-Teaming stuff together.  Plus then we'd maybe get some more of this Bucky/Sarah flirtation thing going.

How pissed is Walker gonna be when he learns Zemo is going to be his leader or commanding officer or whatever in Dark Avengers?  That's going to be rough.  I kind of feel like they're mixing in some of the psychology of "Nuke" in but from what I understand Walker kind of had that brittle edge in the books himself.

Finally, cadence wise, would love for the title of the next episode to be "Captain America and the Winter Soldier".   It would slap, and cadence wise it sounds better too.

ok yeah sorry one last thing.  In the Marvel logo intro, at the very end, is that a scene from WandaVision in the M?
 
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