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(The Hill)   Pending FL law may as well be the "Fark Black Lives Matter Act" as it legalizes running over protestors, makes it felony to harm monuments, eliminate bail for protesters and requires cities to get permission from the state to decrease police budgets   (thehill.com) divider line
    More: Florida, Protest, Civil disobedience, Police, Police brutality, Gov. Ron DeSantis Ron DeSantis, United States Senate, United States Constitution, Orlando Sentinel  
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2021-04-16 12:14:27 AM  
possibly named in honor of Grady Judd
 
2021-04-16 12:41:04 AM  
Why do people forget that Florida is the south-est part of the south?
 
2021-04-16 12:44:39 AM  

Notabunny: Why do people forget that Florida is the south-est part of the south?


North Florida is the south-est part of Florida. That's where Tallahassee is. Which helps explain some things about our idiotic state government.
 
2021-04-16 1:10:11 AM  
Its like a competition between red states, who can be the most racist treasonous anti-american state?
 
2021-04-16 1:16:45 AM  
The GOP effort to pass as many unconstitutional laws as possible is really impressive.
 
2021-04-16 1:26:08 AM  
and requires cities to get permission from the state to decrease police budgets

because conservatives just love small local government.
 
2021-04-16 1:43:51 AM  
authoritarianism for the winsm.
 
2021-04-16 2:15:50 AM  
State law cannot legalize the violation of civil rights. Make all the racists laws you want, they won't hold water in federal court.
 
2021-04-16 2:33:15 AM  
I'm sorry but the BLM "protesters" at this point are just looking to be legally rioting assholes who expect to face no consequences while farking shiat up and burning shiat down and assaulting media in the open. Every one of their protests turns into a lynch mob shiat show. I am no Trump supporter but he wasnt far off from seeing them for exactly what they are.
 
2021-04-16 2:35:07 AM  

styckx: their protests turns into a lynch mob shiat show.


what an interesting choice of words.
 
2021-04-16 2:41:52 AM  
Wear a bathing suit or Disney themed clothing, anywhere in Florida, to protest Ron DeSantis.
 
2021-04-16 3:33:58 AM  

Monty_Zoncolan: possibly named in honor of Grady Judd


Yep.  This could only be more "Florida" if alligators were involved.
 
2021-04-16 3:54:18 AM  
So glad I just moved out of that craphole state.
 
2021-04-16 4:39:18 AM  
Republicans so want to be the Nazi who ran over and killed Heather Heyer with his car that they're passing laws to make it legal for them to do the same. This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone who recalls that their response to a spate of school shootings was to put more guns in schools.

Republicans are proudly and consistently the very worst people in the world.
 
2021-04-16 5:20:09 AM  
It also raises the charge for protesters who destroy historical structures, including flags and memorials, to a felony.

#partyoflincoln
 
2021-04-16 5:58:20 AM  
...which will go out the window the first time that a Proud Boy gets grazed by a car or they get arrested.
 
2021-04-16 6:24:29 AM  
The Iowa House just passed a similar bill.
It makes protesting a felony. Well, the wording is rioting, but cops and prosecutors have discretion on what they call rioting in this state.

It also strengthens protections for cops to be sued.

And it allows for exceptions for someone to run over protesters.

The Derp in Iowa is reaching Florida levels.
 
2021-04-16 6:55:55 AM  
Cool. Can't wait to do a full-speed run through the next "Stop The Steal/Desantis for President" golf cart parade at The Villages with this

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2021-04-16 7:41:09 AM  
I wonder if it will still be legal to run over the white, churchy protestors at, say, Planned Parenthood.

Because I've got some vacation time coming up...

/kidding
//a little
///
 
2021-04-16 8:05:44 AM  
BLM really need to amp up on buying legal guns and use Florida's Stand Your Ground law against it this silly shiat.
 
2021-04-16 8:09:54 AM  
"would include requiring state approval for decreases to city police budgets"

How does that even work in a legal sense? "We just voted to give ourself the power to manage your budget"
 
2021-04-16 8:10:12 AM  

styckx: I'm sorry but the BLM "protesters" at this point are just looking to be legally rioting assholes who expect to face no consequences while farking shiat up and burning shiat down and assaulting media in the open. Every one of their protests turns into a lynch mob shiat show. I am no Trump supporter but he wasnt far off from seeing them for exactly what they are.


Very much like the phrase "I'm not a racist, BUT", that disclaimer invariably means that the thing you say next will prove the opposite.

About 93% of racial justice protests in the US have been peaceful, a new report finds

And in a significant faction of the remaining 7% the violence was initiated by police-paid agents provocateur or Right wing actors such as the Bugaloo Bois who were trying to incite chaos and violence.

This is about old white men who have gerrymandered a diverse state to within an inch of its life, being terrified that their subjects are getting restless and "uppity"
 
2021-04-16 8:10:59 AM  
They're trying to break the country. One law at a time.
 
2021-04-16 8:11:12 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Cool. Can't wait to do a full-speed run through the next "Stop The Steal/Desantis for President" golf cart parade at The Villages with this

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No no no it's only legal if you kill libruls
 
2021-04-16 8:11:52 AM  
*drives down road, sees black man carrying "Defund Police" protest sign on sidewalk 200ft away, accelerates and runs him down*
"I was afraid for my life!"
*Case dismissed!*

I think I've pretty much got it down about how it will go
 
2021-04-16 8:12:10 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: BLM really need to amp up on buying legal guns and use Florida's Stand Your Ground law against it this silly shiat.


Florida would find a way to negate the 13th amendment if even a whiff of that happening was heard.

In all seriousness, many states seem to be angling for Confederacy 2.0 and the hope for a new Civil War.
 
2021-04-16 8:13:02 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: BLM really need to amp up on buying legal guns and use Florida's Stand Your Ground law against it this silly shiat.


Dear, if you think anyone in BLM can hold a gun while not being shot by the cops, much less use Stand Your Ground as a defense, I've got some swamp land in Florida to sell to you.  Those things are worship words reserved only for crackers.
 
2021-04-16 8:13:44 AM  
The bill says that a city cannot cut its police budget without approval from the state.

That makes no farking sense.  I'm no Internet Constitutional Scholar, but can states really inject themselves into a city's budget like this?  I can't recall every seeing anything so ridiculous.  Can they raise the budget without permission?  What if a PD becomes uninsurable and therefore cannot meet its budget?  What about sanitation, teachers, fire departments, etc.?

I guess I don't understand how a state can just micromanage the budgets of thousands of municipalities.  This sounds like the stupidest thing.

You know how Republicans are always bleating "They just want to control you!"  This is that.
 
2021-04-16 8:14:47 AM  
This is just step one.

Step two will be to replace the secular political organizations that control all this with religious groups.

Step three is American Dominionist government.
 
2021-04-16 8:15:31 AM  

freddyV: The Iowa House just passed a similar bill.
It makes protesting a felony. Well, the wording is rioting, but cops and prosecutors have discretion on what they call rioting in this state.

It also strengthens protections for cops to be sued.

And it allows for exceptions for someone to run over protesters.

The Derp in Iowa is reaching Florida levels.


fark the 1st amendment right to peaceful assembly! Seriously though, the keep going on about cancel culture and the match toward communism but they are heading straight for fascism.
 
2021-04-16 8:15:35 AM  
So do they specify what monuments are? Or how those are defined? Because a lot of places can throw up some SUPER incendiary monuments real quick like as honey pots for this. Both far right and far left. In fact, you could probably place a monument to say Derrick C up in Minny then speed run with cars from death race 2000 through the protestors who are "actively in progress of committing a felony". This is one of those laws of unintended consequences.
 
2021-04-16 8:15:38 AM  
And the fascism deepens.
 
2021-04-16 8:16:43 AM  
eliminate bail for protesters

Other than Clarence Thomas, is there a single Justice on the Supreme Court who would allow this to stand?
 
2021-04-16 8:16:53 AM  

styckx: I'm sorry but the BLM "protesters" at this point are just looking to be legally rioting assholes who expect to face no consequences while farking shiat up and burning shiat down and assaulting media in the open. Every one of their protests turns into a lynch mob shiat show. I am no Trump supporter but he wasnt far off from seeing them for exactly what they are.


How often in a given week do you need to explain to people you're not a racist?

Should I meet your black friend too?
 
2021-04-16 8:17:25 AM  

Zombies ate my neighbors: So do they specify what monuments are? Or how those are defined? Because a lot of places can throw up some SUPER incendiary monuments real quick like as honey pots for this. Both far right and far left. In fact, you could probably place a monument to say Derrick C up in Minny then speed run with cars from death race 2000 through the protestors who are "actively in progress of committing a felony". This is one of those laws of unintended consequences.


Isn't there a satanist monument to Baphomet down there somewhere?
 
2021-04-16 8:18:04 AM  

Badafuco: So glad I just moved out of that craphole state.


I'm sure we'll miss you dearly.
 
2021-04-16 8:19:27 AM  

Notabunny: Why do people forget that Florida is the south-est part of the south?


Because its full of New Yorkers.
 
2021-04-16 8:19:57 AM  
christ
 
2021-04-16 8:22:43 AM  
They're gunna have to walk some of this law back once they notice a rise in Woody Guthrie approved bumperstickers. fark around n find out.
 
2021-04-16 8:22:48 AM  
I wonder if a city can reduce its police department budget by a few cents, then see if the state is willing to sue to raise the budget back up?  The cities would see how much they can reduce before the state is willing to spend its own money.

Or just freeze its police budget and never let it go up?
 
2021-04-16 8:22:49 AM  
To a Republican, it's not OK to refuse to do business with somebody if they say things you don't like, but it is OK to kill somebody with your car if they say something you don't like.
 
2021-04-16 8:23:26 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: BLM really need to amp up on buying legal guns and use Florida's Stand Your Ground law against it this silly shiat.


"Stand Your Ground," especially in Florida, means "24/7/365 ni*BONG* season, no license, no limit".
 
2021-04-16 8:25:12 AM  

Rapmaster2000: The bill says that a city cannot cut its police budget without approval from the state.

That makes no farking sense.  I'm no Internet Constitutional Scholar, but can states really inject themselves into a city's budget like this?  I can't recall every seeing anything so ridiculous.  Can they raise the budget without permission?  What if a PD becomes uninsurable and therefore cannot meet its budget?  What about sanitation, teachers, fire departments, etc.?

I guess I don't understand how a state can just micromanage the budgets of thousands of municipalities.  This sounds like the stupidest thing.

You know how Republicans are always bleating "They just want to control you!"  This is that.


That's what I'm thinking. "It's my money and I'll spend all on jellybeans if I want to" is a perfectly valid response from cities. I can see where if they're receiving state funds the state may have a say, but otherwise go eat a bag of ducks.

*ducks was autocorrect and probably for the better
 
2021-04-16 8:25:17 AM  
The Statute of Westminster in 1275 eliminated the discretion of sheriffs with respect to which crimes would be bailable."

This principle of English Common Law precedent was incorporated into the Judiciary Act and has been part of the US Constitution since 1789.

You can't just decide who is worthy of bail and who is not - not without a judge hearing an argument in a courtroom, first. And, as for the cars - this is licensing people to show up at protests with their vehicles with the intent to maim or kill. But it's been on the conservative wish list for at least 5 or 6 years.
 
2021-04-16 8:26:00 AM  
So, if I'm in Florida, and someone wearing a MAGA hat is jaywalking in front of me, I can just run them over?  Wow, what a country state!
 
2021-04-16 8:26:35 AM  

fragMasterFlash: State law cannot legalize the violation of civil rights. Make all the racists laws you want, they won't hold water in federal court.


You have noticed that the Federal Bench is now heavily derp-ridden all the way up to SCOTUS, haven't you?
 
2021-04-16 8:27:14 AM  
In the laaaand of the FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
 
2021-04-16 8:27:20 AM  

fragMasterFlash: State law cannot legalize the violation of civil rights. Make all the racists laws you want, they won't hold water in federal court.


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2021-04-16 8:28:18 AM  

dodecahedron: Notabunny: Why do people forget that Florida is the south-est part of the south?

North Florida is the south-est part of Florida. That's where Tallahassee is. Which helps explain some things about our idiotic state government.


South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida: the Unholy Trinity of I-95
 
2021-04-16 8:29:39 AM  

djloid2010: *drives down road, sees black man carrying "Defund Police" protest sign on sidewalk 200ft away, accelerates and runs him down*
"I was afraid for my life!"
*Case dismissed!*

I think I've pretty much got it down about how it will go


The fact that Blacks could not register to vote and therefore could also never be called for jury duty in most of the South, effectively legalized any murder of a black person by a white one from the end of Reconstruction to the 1960's or so.   Many conservatives have spent the last 60 years mourning the loss of that cornerstone of their culture and heritage.
 
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