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(Digital Spy)   Robert Kirkman is bringing Rick Grimes back in the comic books. He's not saying it's aliens, but...it's aliens   (digitalspy.com) divider line
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2021-04-16 1:59:08 AM  
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2021-04-16 4:57:45 AM  
Jesus goddamn titty-farking Christ, you could have just told a contained story with that twist and saved us all years and years of bullshiat and zombie oversaturation.
 
2021-04-16 5:11:53 AM  
People are outraged that a comic book is raising a character from the dead!  This has never happened before in the history of comics!
 
2021-04-16 6:03:05 AM  
I figured he was captured by the helicopter people and taken to Ohio, which is as bad as Georgia even without zombies.   After the finale, they were gonna crank out some movies to see if anyone was interested.   Not much more to it than that.
 
2021-04-16 6:21:04 AM  
This important issue revealed that aliens were responsible for the zombie plague.

Kirkman revealed that in an interview a couple years ago, IIRC, probably shortly after the comic's final issue.  As an homage to Night of the Living Dead, where the zombies were created by a probe returning from Venus.
 
2021-04-16 7:01:02 AM  
Is he starting to go full J.K. Rowling?
 
2021-04-16 7:19:06 AM  

The Crepes of Wrath: This important issue revealed that aliens were responsible for the zombie plague.

Kirkman revealed that in an interview a couple years ago, IIRC, probably shortly after the comic's final issue.  As an homage to Night of the Living Dead, where the zombies were created by a probe returning from Venus.


Hell, it was put in a comic about ten years ago.
 
2021-04-16 7:23:33 AM  

Flincher: Is he starting to go full J.K. Rowling?


He hasn't insulted the trans community, yet
 
2021-04-16 7:30:22 AM  

The Crepes of Wrath: This important issue revealed that aliens were responsible for the zombie plague.

Kirkman revealed that in an interview a couple years ago, IIRC, probably shortly after the comic's final issue.  As an homage to Night of the Living Dead, where the zombies were created by a probe returning from Venus.


Not according to George Romero. He said that that was a fake reason. The real reason is, and I quote, "God changed the rules."
 
2021-04-16 8:03:39 AM  
Good ol' Grimey.
 
2021-04-16 8:16:50 AM  
Good. I missed these

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2021-04-16 8:42:03 AM  

Stud Gerbil: After the finale, they were gonna crank out some movies to see if anyone was interested.


Uh...Ohio or the zombies?
 
2021-04-16 8:59:29 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: The Crepes of Wrath: This important issue revealed that aliens were responsible for the zombie plague.

Kirkman revealed that in an interview a couple years ago, IIRC, probably shortly after the comic's final issue.  As an homage to Night of the Living Dead, where the zombies were created by a probe returning from Venus.

Not according to George Romero. He said that that was a fake reason. The real reason is, and I quote, "God changed the rules."


Didn't know that, but that was the reason given in the movie.
 
2021-04-16 8:59:41 AM  
I thought the comics ended a year or so ago?
 
2021-04-16 9:18:10 AM  

Wobambo: Jesus goddamn titty-farking Christ, you could have just told a contained story with that twist and saved us all years and years of bullshiat and zombie oversaturation.


Worse is that the show survived so long, and for so many useless seasons. Then it spawned 2 spinoffs (though isnt the last one already canceled?)

In the meantime, I can not even count all the other more entertaining shows that ended early. I guess next we will get zombie titties flying on dragons in some sort of game of something.
 
2021-04-16 9:22:23 AM  
Kirkman is like Garth Ennis. He needs a good editor for restraint to reign in his goofier ideas. At least Ennis can usually write an ending. Invincible should have been half the run that it was. WD probably a quarter.

To mangle the quote in Stand By Me, "Did you ever notice they never stop wagon-training?"
 
2021-04-16 10:19:19 AM  
Kirkman ain't a good writer. The source material isn't good.
 
2021-04-16 10:29:30 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Kirkman ain't a good writer. The source material isn't good.


I stopped reading the comic when I realized I was smarter than the guy writing it.  I prefer the writer to be smarter than me (Gaiman, Moore, Morrison) or sometimes roughly as smart as me (Ennis, Millar) but never dumber than me (Kirkman, Loeb).
 
2021-04-16 10:44:43 AM  
I knew Kirkman was a hack when he couldn't let any of his characters be happy. It didn't take getting to the prison and having a bouncing idiot ball ruin everything (and then the same thing happen each and every subsequent place they went) or the completely out of left field suicides or the Catholic priest spouting off YEC evangelist theology or even the obvious misogyny in the first few issues (although the latter should have clued me in).

You can't reuse the same plot points every time. You can't always make the characters miserable all the time. You can't just force characters to behave in completely contradictory ways to their established personas just to move the story along every few issues. I mean, you can, and Kirkman does, but you can't do that and be anywhere near a competent writer.

/See also Mark Millar and Warren Ellis, neither of which seem to have ever even talked to a woman.
 
2021-04-16 11:02:06 AM  

Wendigogo: Good. I missed these

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The only good thing to come out of the later seasons of that show. shiat, that was season 3 (prison) wasn't it?
 
2021-04-16 11:51:38 AM  

dsmith42: Wendigogo: Good. I missed these

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The only good thing to come out of the later seasons of that show. shiat, that was season 3 (prison) wasn't it?


Yep that was season 3. And I feel the same. Though I made it up to season 7 or 8, I think.
 
2021-04-16 11:55:30 AM  
Ah, nothing like watching a content creator cut the sash weights on the window of disbelief the audience has kept open for so long, to have it come crashing down on the audience's fingers. You almost feel punished for keeping that window open - if you'd known the author was going to do that, you wouldn't have bothered in the first farking place.
 
2021-04-16 12:00:09 PM  

Wendigogo: Good. I missed these

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That one, and the Biden/Palin VP debate ones are the greatest memes of all time.

/ ALL TIME!!!
 
2021-04-16 12:04:03 PM  
Wasn't it aliens in Night of the Living Dead?
I seem to remember something about a newscast in the movie saying something about a satellite or probe being detected in orbit.
It's been a very long time since I saw NotLD.
 
2021-04-16 12:09:31 PM  

luidprand: I knew Kirkman was a hack when he couldn't let any of his characters be happy. It didn't take getting to the prison and having a bouncing idiot ball ruin everything (and then the same thing happen each and every subsequent place they went) or the completely out of left field suicides or the Catholic priest spouting off YEC evangelist theology or even the obvious misogyny in the first few issues (although the latter should have clued me in).

You can't reuse the same plot points every time. You can't always make the characters miserable all the time. You can't just force characters to behave in completely contradictory ways to their established personas just to move the story along every few issues. I mean, you can, and Kirkman does, but you can't do that and be anywhere near a competent writer.

/See also Mark Millar and Warren Ellis, neither of which seem to have ever even talked to a woman.


Everything I've read by Ellis starts out good with an interesting premise that's built on and built on and then the story concludes very abruptly.
I should say I haven't read all that much by him.
 
2021-04-16 12:25:38 PM  

Trik: Wasn't it aliens in Night of the Living Dead?
I seem to remember something about a newscast in the movie saying something about a satellite or probe being detected in orbit.
It's been a very long time since I saw NotLD.


Yes, from what I recall, that is what they theorized.
 
2021-04-16 12:38:56 PM  
The Crepes of Wrath:

In a fictional story God can change the rules at will.

God being the writer.

God being how the person reading/seeing/hearing interprets it
 
2021-04-16 1:04:42 PM  

ssa5: Wobambo: Jesus goddamn titty-farking Christ, you could have just told a contained story with that twist and saved us all years and years of bullshiat and zombie oversaturation.

Worse is that the show survived so long, and for so many useless seasons. Then it spawned 2 spinoffs (though isnt the last one already canceled?)

In the meantime, I can not even count all the other more entertaining shows that ended early. I guess next we will get zombie titties flying on dragons in some sort of game of something.


I bailed when Glenn was killed off with the intention of binging the show whenever it finally wrapped. Then the Rick and Carl departures happened and my interest in even doing that dropped. I know a few people who managed to stick around a season or two more, but no-one now. The writers of Lost have more credibility.
 
2021-04-16 3:01:26 PM  

luidprand: I knew Kirkman was a hack when he couldn't let any of his characters be happy. It didn't take getting to the prison and having a bouncing idiot ball ruin everything (and then the same thing happen each and every subsequent place they went) or the completely out of left field suicides or the Catholic priest spouting off YEC evangelist theology or even the obvious misogyny in the first few issues (although the latter should have clued me in).

You can't reuse the same plot points every time. You can't always make the characters miserable all the time. You can't just force characters to behave in completely contradictory ways to their established personas just to move the story along every few issues. I mean, you can, and Kirkman does, but you can't do that and be anywhere near a competent writer.

/See also Mark Millar and Warren Ellis, neither of which seem to have ever even talked to a woman.


You haven't heard? Warren Ellis did talk to women. And it's a problem.
 
2021-04-16 3:05:26 PM  

Trik: luidprand: I knew Kirkman was a hack when he couldn't let any of his characters be happy. It didn't take getting to the prison and having a bouncing idiot ball ruin everything (and then the same thing happen each and every subsequent place they went) or the completely out of left field suicides or the Catholic priest spouting off YEC evangelist theology or even the obvious misogyny in the first few issues (although the latter should have clued me in).

You can't reuse the same plot points every time. You can't always make the characters miserable all the time. You can't just force characters to behave in completely contradictory ways to their established personas just to move the story along every few issues. I mean, you can, and Kirkman does, but you can't do that and be anywhere near a competent writer.

/See also Mark Millar and Warren Ellis, neither of which seem to have ever even talked to a woman.

Everything I've read by Ellis starts out good with an interesting premise that's built on and built on and then the story concludes very abruptly.
I should say I haven't read all that much by him.


It seems to be a pattern: Ministry of Space, No Hero, Supergod, Black Summer, Ignition City.
 
2021-04-16 3:38:16 PM  

batlock666: Trik: luidprand: I knew Kirkman was a hack when he couldn't let any of his characters be happy. It didn't take getting to the prison and having a bouncing idiot ball ruin everything (and then the same thing happen each and every subsequent place they went) or the completely out of left field suicides or the Catholic priest spouting off YEC evangelist theology or even the obvious misogyny in the first few issues (although the latter should have clued me in).

You can't reuse the same plot points every time. You can't always make the characters miserable all the time. You can't just force characters to behave in completely contradictory ways to their established personas just to move the story along every few issues. I mean, you can, and Kirkman does, but you can't do that and be anywhere near a competent writer.

/See also Mark Millar and Warren Ellis, neither of which seem to have ever even talked to a woman.

Everything I've read by Ellis starts out good with an interesting premise that's built on and built on and then the story concludes very abruptly.
I should say I haven't read all that much by him.

It seems to be a pattern: Ministry of Space, No Hero, Supergod, Black Summer, Ignition City.


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2021-04-16 3:40:15 PM  

BafflerMeal: batlock666: Trik: luidprand: I knew Kirkman was a hack when he couldn't let any of his characters be happy. It didn't take getting to the prison and having a bouncing idiot ball ruin everything (and then the same thing happen each and every subsequent place they went) or the completely out of left field suicides or the Catholic priest spouting off YEC evangelist theology or even the obvious misogyny in the first few issues (although the latter should have clued me in).

You can't reuse the same plot points every time. You can't always make the characters miserable all the time. You can't just force characters to behave in completely contradictory ways to their established personas just to move the story along every few issues. I mean, you can, and Kirkman does, but you can't do that and be anywhere near a competent writer.

/See also Mark Millar and Warren Ellis, neither of which seem to have ever even talked to a woman.

Everything I've read by Ellis starts out good with an interesting premise that's built on and built on and then the story concludes very abruptly.
I should say I haven't read all that much by him.

It seems to be a pattern: Ministry of Space, No Hero, Supergod, Black Summer, Ignition City.

Counterpoint

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Yeah but he had better than a decade to work that one out.
 
2021-04-16 4:34:40 PM  

batlock666: luidprand: I knew Kirkman was a hack when he couldn't let any of his characters be happy. It didn't take getting to the prison and having a bouncing idiot ball ruin everything (and then the same thing happen each and every subsequent place they went) or the completely out of left field suicides or the Catholic priest spouting off YEC evangelist theology or even the obvious misogyny in the first few issues (although the latter should have clued me in).

You can't reuse the same plot points every time. You can't always make the characters miserable all the time. You can't just force characters to behave in completely contradictory ways to their established personas just to move the story along every few issues. I mean, you can, and Kirkman does, but you can't do that and be anywhere near a competent writer.

/See also Mark Millar and Warren Ellis, neither of which seem to have ever even talked to a woman.

You haven't heard? Warren Ellis did talk to women. And it's a problem.


Ok, let me rephrase that as talking to women as people and not peons or future victims.
 
2021-04-16 4:40:45 PM  

BafflerMeal: batlock666: Trik: luidprand: I knew Kirkman was a hack when he couldn't let any of his characters be happy. It didn't take getting to the prison and having a bouncing idiot ball ruin everything (and then the same thing happen each and every subsequent place they went) or the completely out of left field suicides or the Catholic priest spouting off YEC evangelist theology or even the obvious misogyny in the first few issues (although the latter should have clued me in).

You can't reuse the same plot points every time. You can't always make the characters miserable all the time. You can't just force characters to behave in completely contradictory ways to their established personas just to move the story along every few issues. I mean, you can, and Kirkman does, but you can't do that and be anywhere near a competent writer.

/See also Mark Millar and Warren Ellis, neither of which seem to have ever even talked to a woman.

Everything I've read by Ellis starts out good with an interesting premise that's built on and built on and then the story concludes very abruptly.
I should say I haven't read all that much by him.

It seems to be a pattern: Ministry of Space, No Hero, Supergod, Black Summer, Ignition City.

Counterpoint

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That's one of the ones I was thinking of. It was so internally inconsistent (same with The Authority) that it really felt he had a neat idea, then a couple issues later, he had another one that completely contradicted the first one, so he'd throw that in, then repeat that, and so on. It got so bad, I thought I was reading about a Golden Age DC character's bio (a was it wood or the color yellow or fear? sort of thing).

/"neat" to Warren Ellis or maybe a stoned college freshman. Throw enough ideas at the wall and some of them are likely to be good, if you ignore all the others.
 
2021-04-16 4:57:41 PM  
I read the comic until issue 100 and realized the writer was a sadistic hack. Yes, it took me that long. At least this was a good warning to stop watching the show. Does the governor get shot by a disgruntled goon after she shoots the baby? 
*Reads what he just wrote*
My god what a waste of time and goodwill.
 
2021-04-16 7:11:14 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Kirkman ain't a good writer. The source material isn't good.

I stopped reading the comic when I realized I was smarter than the guy writing it.  I prefer the writer to be smarter than me (Gaiman, Moore, Morrison) or sometimes roughly as smart as me (Ennis, Millar) but never dumber than me (Kirkman, Loeb).


I stopped reading it because every single storyline is all just getting out of one frying pan and into another fire, over and over and over again, just bigger frying pans and fires. I mean I suppose that sounds like a stupid critique for a comic book, since that is literally all they do, but TWD made it so obvious it stopped being interesting. I only made it through about three episodes of the TV show and gave up on that, too.

I am about to find my TWD vol. 12 and read the issue mentioned in the article though. At least that might prove slightly interesting.
 
2021-04-16 7:56:19 PM  
Jerry Curlan's Horsey:  I am about to find my TWD vol. 12 and read the issue mentioned in the article though. At least that might prove slightly interesting.

Don't waste your time. I just checked it out. Issue 75 is in the middle of volume 13, and there's nothing. Turns out tfa is referring to an alternate ending that was only in the individual issue. Link here if curious:
https://walkingdead.fandom.com/wiki/I​s​sue_75/Bonus_Ending

I stuck with Walking Dead to the end because I started reading it when it first came out, and as repetitive as it got, it still held my interest, and I couldn't bring myself to quit mid series. I think I only made it 3 episodes into the tv series like you though. Which is 2 more episodes than I made it into Invincible.
 
2021-04-16 8:18:32 PM  

Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: Jerry Curlan's Horsey:  I am about to find my TWD vol. 12 and read the issue mentioned in the article though. At least that might prove slightly interesting.

Don't waste your time. I just checked it out. Issue 75 is in the middle of volume 13, and there's nothing. Turns out tfa is referring to an alternate ending that was only in the individual issue. Link here if curious:
https://walkingdead.fandom.com/wiki/Is​sue_75/Bonus_Ending

I stuck with Walking Dead to the end because I started reading it when it first came out, and as repetitive as it got, it still held my interest, and I couldn't bring myself to quit mid series. I think I only made it 3 episodes into the tv series like you though. Which is 2 more episodes than I made it into Invincible.


Yup, I just discovered the same thing. I have a torrent running now to fill in that little detail. Thanks, though!
 
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