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(Vox)   If you get a bill for your COVID-19 vaccine from your insurance company for 57 cents or something weird like that, don't pay it.. It's free   (vox.com) divider line
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2021-04-15 5:09:39 PM  
Who cares, the vaccine is bullshiat. Tucker Carlson told me so.
 
2021-04-15 8:51:13 PM  
Yeah, I got an "Explanation of Benefits" from my insurance company -- not a bill, and no cost, but it sorta implied they covered it. Dicks.
 
2021-04-15 8:53:58 PM  
They are not allowed to charge you, but providers CAN charge your insurance. If they do, you'll get a Explanation of Benefits. An EoB is not a Bill, it's just explaining what was covered and what wasn't.

IF you get a bill about the shot, you can raise holy hell because NOBODY is allowed to charge a patient for the vaccine, not directly or via insurance.
 
2021-04-15 8:55:32 PM  
I didn't tell anybody associated with the vaccine what my insurance company is.
 
2021-04-15 8:56:11 PM  
They didn't even ask for my insurance card, so
 
2021-04-15 8:58:49 PM  
I'm getting mine at the VA so I'll probably get something in the mail telling me which duty station to report to.
 
2021-04-15 8:59:00 PM  

Sushi and the Banshees: Yeah, I got an "Explanation of Benefits" from my insurance company -- not a bill, and no cost, but it sorta implied they covered it. Dicks.


They implied it because they did it.
 
2021-04-15 8:59:45 PM  

Herb Utsmelz: I didn't tell anybody associated with the vaccine what my insurance company is.


I got mine at a FEMA site and same. No one asked about insurance; they wanted to cycle everyone through quickly and efficiently. It was incredibly well done.
 
2021-04-15 9:02:02 PM  
Publix called me two days before my first shot because the insurance they had on file was invalid (previous employer).  I read them some numbers off my insurance card and that was that.
 
2021-04-15 9:03:52 PM  
...how about if I charge them to open the bill?  I think $250/hour with the smallest billable time being a 4-hour block, and--of course--  called in a specialist to interpret the bill (my cat), he bills out at a slightly higher $300/hour, but he only bills to the nearest hour.  Saves you money right there.  And then I talked to the spouse about it Add a review of the bill and, of course, "coding", and I make it out to be...$1625.  If you're having trouble with this bill, feel free to contact our payment office and ask to speak to "Arlo".  If complete payment is not received in 10 working days, your account will be turned over to a collection agency.
 
2021-04-15 9:06:53 PM  
or, you know, you could just pay the 2 bits and probably save EVERYONE a ton of time.

Yeah, it should be free, but like....come on....everyone's time is worth more than fixing clerical errors like that.
 
2021-04-15 9:23:08 PM  
Dang.  The guy behind the clinic charged me $25 but he was bice enough to warm the vaccine up in a spoon.  Going back for my 23rd dose.  Might go early.
 
2021-04-15 9:28:14 PM  
So she received two bills from Cigna.  One for 57 cents, one for 96 cents.  $1.53 sure isn't much.

But Cigna has 180 million customers.  So if they do that to everyone, that's over $275m.
 
2021-04-15 9:32:26 PM  

Sushi and the Banshees: Yeah, I got an "Explanation of Benefits" from my insurance company -- not a bill, and no cost, but it sorta implied they covered it. Dicks.


I haven't gotten that from my current insurer yet (2nd shot 2 weeks ago).

But my previous insurer would always send me that after the free yearly physicals and flu shots.
 
2021-04-15 9:36:09 PM  

morg: I'm getting mine at the VA so I'll probably get something in the mail telling me which duty station to report to.


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2021-04-15 9:38:30 PM  

meanmutton: Herb Utsmelz: I didn't tell anybody associated with the vaccine what my insurance company is.

I got mine at a FEMA site and same. No one asked about insurance; they wanted to cycle everyone through quickly and efficiently. It was incredibly well done.


If you are not the customer, you are the product.  Clearly FEMA is going to sell your 5G chip MAC address to some shady internet advertisers.  I would never do something like that.  I paid for my Apple vaccine.  Sure it's expensive and a bit of a walled garden, but at least they'll secure the mind control ray codes.  Now I'm off to do my Fitness Plus exercises while listening to Apple Music.  My watch lets me know when I've closed my rings!
 
2021-04-15 9:58:32 PM  
they would never!!!   I need my fainting couch
 
2021-04-15 10:01:00 PM  

Mugato: Who cares, the vaccine is bullshiat. Tucker Carlson told me so.


Tucker Carlson is bullshiat. I told you so.
 
2021-04-15 10:02:44 PM  
OH...this solution is so simple, it'll make their brain hurt!


If your insurance company sends a bill for the vaccine... send them a picture of the money!

/You're welcome!
 
2021-04-15 10:03:18 PM  
Plenty of people get billed for indirect "administrative fees", $20-$100, when they get the vaccine, more by doctor's offices and hospitals than pharmacies or special vaccine clinics. If you have insurance, you can try to get them to pay it, or if not, you can try to get the federal government to cover it, but they're still going to harass you until they get their money or they've sold the debt to a collection agency. Sources: wxyz khou
 
2021-04-15 10:11:00 PM  

Mugato: Who cares, the vaccine is bullshiat. Tucker Carlson told me so.


Bah! Savior and prophetic Healer of The United States of America told it's our salvation and healing. He's great and knowledgeable of science and medicine because he is a career politician that is going to heal this nation that stole the land from people that get some minor lip service once in a while when someone feels guilty for all their child made products they purchase to ease the pain of their insignificant and abusive existence.

Wait a sec...

I can absolve my guilt in living a privileged life in a stolen land by getting an experimental injection of a substance that, let's be honest, no one knows what effect it will have on the populace and children, and absolve myself of any guilt of possibly living my privledged life at the expense of other humans that will continue to suffer.  What the eff. Sign me up! I want to watch some football!

Long live Emperor for life! More Supreme Court justices! More abortions for the caring. Oh, can we get them to justify, lol, post birth abortions? It could be helpful and the caring and feeling thing to do.

Ok, seriously, anyone have any stats on genetic haplogroups? I know it's early but anyone with a brain would think an experimental vaccine would need some time as well. I'm curious how The Basque are fairing. My WAG is this shiat is attacking genetic groups more than others. It could possibly explain so much insane change in history. Why is the period called "The Enlightenment" considered evil? Why are we still tribal? Why the effd does sportsball demand so much absolute attention and funding? Why does a man that can throw a ball get tens of millions while millions of children starve because they are denied the dignity that could be financed by this distraction?

Why the fuktt are we here! You do not know. You will never know. You will find distractions that continue the abuse of fellow humans in other lands for your fix to momentarily "forget" the suffering of others that you care so much for.

Where is the movement by the so-called humanitarian party to give back what was stolen? Why is Joe Biden not giving all the land that was stolen by the murderous regime than anihilated the rightful "owners" that destroyed the people that inhabited the land before their domination back to the rightful owners?

If injustices need to be corrected why not correct the injustice justly? The StoPPeRmobile is fully aware of the current effort in place now called healing but why does the healing with evil malice, ignore the innocent aboriginal that had to suffer the uterly inhumane injustice and atrocity facilitated by our so called forefather's?

Yahweh's chosen person, oh I don't mean he was chosen by Yahweh, [dodges stones], John Stewart roasted this little stooge years ago. So.... I'm a bit confused why he gets a soap box today. This smacks of what the StoPPermobile warned about legitimizing the Cheeto of the former United States during the election cycle.

Why were these 2 morans the only choice in a country of 350 millions of people?

... We now continue the outrage of someone that should have been ignored years ago but we the people need to continue our distraction with this ridiculousness while the rich fat farkers milk the humanitarians while feeling virtuous.
 
2021-04-15 10:31:02 PM  
They didn't even ask me for my insurance card when I got my vaccine
 
2021-04-15 10:32:07 PM  

JuggleGeek: So she received two bills from Cigna.  One for 57 cents, one for 96 cents.  $1.53 sure isn't much.

But Cigna has 180 million customers.  So if they do that to everyone, that's over $275m.


And the cost of sending the bill?
 
2021-04-15 10:51:39 PM  
When I had mine at a UPMC site the only thing I had to provide was my drivers license as I didn't have the QR code on my phone.
 
2021-04-15 11:22:42 PM  

JuggleGeek: So she received two bills from Cigna.  One for 57 cents, one for 96 cents.  $1.53 sure isn't much.

But Cigna has 180 million customers.  So if they do that to everyone, that's over $275m.


At $0.55 first class postage for each bill, plus the paper, envelope, and the labor involved in answering "What the HELL is this?" phone calls, they'd be losing a lot of money on the deal.
 
2021-04-15 11:34:13 PM  
Where I work, we bill your insurance, Medicare, or Medicaid. If you don't have any of those, we have some funky code to bill using your driver's license or state ID. It should always be free. If you have none of those, we have a way to still not charge you when we ring it up.
 
2021-04-15 11:35:16 PM  

usernameguy: They didn't even ask for my insurance card, so


So what?
 
2021-04-15 11:46:15 PM  

Tom_Slick: They didn't even ask me for my insurance card when I got my vaccine



All they (the staff at the vaccination site) asked me for was the confirmation code from the Department of Health that I signed up through & my driver's license to prove it was my turn for the Moderna Microchip install. (I'll turn into the T-1000 with dose 2!)  lol

My arm was SORE about 12 hours after the jab, but I got over it next day.  It's a small price to pay to stay alive...no matter WHAT the hate groups say!
 
2021-04-16 12:52:51 AM  

SecondaryControl: ...how about if I charge them to open the bill?  I think $250/hour with the smallest billable time being a 4-hour block, and--of course--  called in a specialist to interpret the bill (my cat), he bills out at a slightly higher $300/hour, but he only bills to the nearest hour.  Saves you money right there.  And then I talked to the spouse about it Add a review of the bill and, of course, "coding", and I make it out to be...$1625.  If you're having trouble with this bill, feel free to contact our payment office and ask to speak to "Arlo".  If complete payment is not received in 10 working days, your account will be turned over to a collection agency.


I read a story in an old (like 1940s, I got a big box of books from a library when I was a kid) readers digest about somebody who ordered a breakfast of bacon, eggs, and coffee. His breakfast came and there was a slice of buttered toast. He didn't think anything of it until he got his bill and saw that he was charged 10c for toast. He complained, but was told that toast was provided with every breakfast, whether it was ordered or not. He paid the bill, and sent a letter to the corporate office. They told him the same thing. So he sent another letter telling them it was poor customer service to charge people for food they didn't order and that it would be a good idea if they stopped doing so.

A week later, he sent them a bill for $10,000 for public relations consulting.

They responded that they never asked him for any public relations consulting.

He replied, "I never asked for a damn piece of toast."

They refunded his dime. They continued to serve the toast, but only charged people who ordered it.

I highly doubt if it's a true story. But I think it's an amusing one.
 
2021-04-16 1:26:24 AM  
gietmay:

I highly doubt if it's a true story. But I think it's an amusing one.

Fake or not, that's funny.
 
2021-04-16 2:56:55 AM  

gietmay: SecondaryControl: ...how about if I charge them to open the bill?  I think $250/hour with the smallest billable time being a 4-hour block, and--of course--  called in a specialist to interpret the bill (my cat), he bills out at a slightly higher $300/hour, but he only bills to the nearest hour.  Saves you money right there.  And then I talked to the spouse about it Add a review of the bill and, of course, "coding", and I make it out to be...$1625.  If you're having trouble with this bill, feel free to contact our payment office and ask to speak to "Arlo".  If complete payment is not received in 10 working days, your account will be turned over to a collection agency.

I read a story in an old (like 1940s, I got a big box of books from a library when I was a kid) readers digest about somebody who ordered a breakfast of bacon, eggs, and coffee. His breakfast came and there was a slice of buttered toast. He didn't think anything of it until he got his bill and saw that he was charged 10c for toast. He complained, but was told that toast was provided with every breakfast, whether it was ordered or not. He paid the bill, and sent a letter to the corporate office. They told him the same thing. So he sent another letter telling them it was poor customer service to charge people for food they didn't order and that it would be a good idea if they stopped doing so.

A week later, he sent them a bill for $10,000 for public relations consulting.

They responded that they never asked him for any public relations consulting.

He replied, "I never asked for a damn piece of toast."

They refunded his dime. They continued to serve the toast, but only charged people who ordered it.

I highly doubt if it's a true story. But I think it's an amusing one.


Long ago & far away, I remember going to the Cottage in Wisconsin in Summers & always having cheese on the plate when we ate out, regardless if the meal. I was told it was State Law (then, not now evidently, & too bad that) to serve 25¢ of cheese with each meal plate ordered. I would not complain.

We have a cheese factory in the Village we live in now. There is a deli & cheese comes with everything, but I have no doubt it may say it comes gratis, we pay.
 
2021-04-16 5:31:01 AM  
      It is easier and less time consuming if you just tell them that you have no insurance. It took about 20 minutes to deal with my insurance.
They keep claiming that I have Medicare, which I don't and they don't want to pay out. Every time we call, they tell us everything is fine. When the doctors offices or testing facilities call they say they are secondary and they should send it to Medicare, who naturally will not not pay.
My pharmacists assistant called his home office and cancelled the request for my insurance and put in that I was not using it. Thank God for them.
 
2021-04-16 7:57:18 AM  
I got mine through work, a fellow employee gave me the shot. That's the short version but still had to show my prescription card.

It came up in a conversation with someone and I had to mention that even if you don't have insurance, you will get the shot because it is free and paid for by the government.

Would be nice if everything was like that regarding healthcare.
 
2021-04-16 9:36:52 AM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: They are not allowed to charge you, but providers CAN charge your insurance. If they do, you'll get a Explanation of Benefits. An EoB is not a Bill, it's just explaining what was covered and what wasn't.

IF you get a bill about the shot, you can raise holy hell because NOBODY is allowed to charge a patient for the vaccine, not directly or via insurance.


FTFA: "...an incorrect adjustment of a state administration surcharge by the insurer..."

Nothing, absolutely nothing, screams "bullshiat charge" more than this phrase.
"A charge resulting from an error in modifying a charge for figuring out what to charge"

Someone's been taking lessons from AT&T and their "administrative charge", which started out at 90 cents and is up around $5 now IIRC.
 
2021-04-16 9:57:32 AM  
CSB:

My daughter & son in law came over for Christmas. Our daughters were the only ones we saw in person for Christmas. Everyone else we saw virtually. Four days after Christmas my daughter calls and says she and her husband have Covid. They think they got it from their step-mom a couple of days before Christmas. That night, my wife and I drove to three different places trying to get a Covid test. Apparently, most testing ends at 6pm. We were unable to find a test. They next morning we went first thing to the local hospital's urgent care facility so we can get our tests done.
Fast forward one week.
My wife got her results back in four or five days - negative. Mine still hadn't come back. At the online portal, it gives an expected date 8 days after we're originally tested. I wait until that date, and still no results. The next day I called to ask when I would see them. I was told the test was lost. I was free to come back in and get another test. I said no thanks, as it had already been 9 days since our test and two weeks since Christmas. If I was positive, I could quarantine for one more day and be clear. I had no symptoms, so my assumption was that neither my wife nor I had it.
Fast forward six more weeks.
I get a bill from the urgent care facility. It's only for $24, but I was puzzled. We were told that the tests would be completely covered by our insurance. My wife's test was. Also, there's no insurance applied. There was originally a $100 charge, but $76 was taken of for some reason (not insurance). Besides which, I never got the results of my test, so be damned if I'm going to pay anything for it. I called the phone number on the actual bill. When I finally got through to someone, they told me it wasn't their department and I'd have to call someone else. Why on Earth is your department's number on the bill then?
I spent two days trying to track down who was actually responsible for billing at the urgent care facility. While it uses the name of our local hospital, it's run by a completely different company. I was able to get the manager of the urgent care on the phone. He told me he'd take care of it.
Fast forward two weeks.
I got another bill. I called the same guy. He told me to ignore it and he'd make sure it was taken care of.
Fast forward one more month.
ANOTHER BILL? ARE YOU farkING KIDDING ME? WHAT KIND OF farkING CLOWN SHOW ARE YOU RUNNING OVER THERE?
I may have bad some not so nice words for the guy who said it was taken care of. That's (finally) the last I heard about it. I should probably check my credit report to make sure it didn't go to collections.

End CSB
 
2021-04-16 10:18:30 AM  
My appt was scheduled with farking wal-mart.  they wanted all sorts of insurance information, I'm pretty sure they were going to bill somebody.

Luckily, farking wal-mart cancelled my appt because they're idiots, and I ended up going through the state's vaccine program at a hotel and all they asked for was my name and address.
 
2021-04-17 6:23:13 AM  

Khryswhy: I should probably check my credit report to make sure it didn't go to collections.


Damn.  And yes, if your story is at all accurate, they are almost certainly going to send it to collections, so keep an eye out.
 
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