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2021-04-15 4:17:13 PM  
oh, come on, subs, just how douch... cauliflower steaks?

GTFO
 
2021-04-15 7:20:39 PM  
This is like the 4th or 5th marmite greenlight this year.

What's going on with marmite?
 
2021-04-15 8:10:07 PM  
I have no time for someone to try and sell me a lifestyle, never mind a product for which there was a shortage and for which a full court press of marketing is being applied now that it appears that they may be able to ramp production back up to near-normal levels.

Production of Marmite is set to bounce back as pubs reopen (foodmanufacture.co.uk)

That's why you're seeing this utter bullshiat. It's an ad.
 
2021-04-15 8:29:05 PM  
Bon Ape Tit!

French can be a fun language.
 
2021-04-15 8:59:58 PM  

vudukungfu: oh, come on, subs, just how douch... cauliflower steaks?

GTFO


Cauliflower steaks are not an acceptable substitute for actual beef.
 
2021-04-15 9:31:09 PM  
I see subby thinks that Velveeta is the upper echelon for cheese.
 
2021-04-15 9:34:27 PM  
oblig.

Monty Python- Cheese Shop
Youtube Hz1JWzyvv8A



meanwhile, if you want a (still-slightly-hipster-y) cheese shop, head for Southern Mass. (or, I guess there's one in Hoboken and one in Harlem?) - so many, many free noms that you feel absolutely compelled to buy a jar of fig jam and a bottle of olive oil.
https://sidwainer.com/

/don't think they sell Marmite, tho'
 
2021-04-15 9:47:17 PM  

tintar: fig jam


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2021-04-15 10:25:49 PM  

tintar: oblig.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/Hz1JWzyv​v8A]


meanwhile, if you want a (still-slightly-hipster-y) cheese shop, head for Southern Mass. (or, I guess there's one in Hoboken and one in Harlem?) - so many, many free noms that you feel absolutely compelled to buy a jar of fig jam and a bottle of olive oil.
https://sidwainer.com/

/don't think they sell Marmite, tho'


*heh* I live roughly a mile from Sid Wainer & Sons in southern Mass. Can't say that I've ever been in there, though. I thought it was a distribution center rather than a consumer storefront. I remember it when the building was an Almac's. Maybe I should pop in sometime and see what they have.
 
2021-04-15 10:42:34 PM  

PunkTiger: tintar: oblig.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/Hz1JWzyv​v8A]


meanwhile, if you want a (still-slightly-hipster-y) cheese shop, head for Southern Mass. (or, I guess there's one in Hoboken and one in Harlem?) - so many, many free noms that you feel absolutely compelled to buy a jar of fig jam and a bottle of olive oil.
https://sidwainer.com/

/don't think they sell Marmite, tho'

*heh* I live roughly a mile from Sid Wainer & Sons in southern Mass. Can't say that I've ever been in there, though. I thought it was a distribution center rather than a consumer storefront. I remember it when the building was an Almac's. Maybe I should pop in sometime and see what they have.


it really does look that way, right? and always ginormous reefer-trucks in the parking lot. but I guess it's sort of both?

our semi-weekend-ly pilgrimage up from Cape Cod used to be:
- Sid Wainers - scarf all the possible noms, but also then buy some nice cheeses and fresh fruit, we're not compleat savages!
- Antonio's, for Shrimp Mozambique, some croquettes, and those 1-liter beers
- that one Portogese marche, I honestly forget the name, for green produce and frozen seafood
- on the way home, Kyler's for yet even moar free samples, and buy whatever specials they had on sale (again, probably-not-savages!)
 
2021-04-15 10:53:08 PM  

PunkTiger: Maybe I should pop in sometime and see what they have.


I honestly don't know how/if they're doing in the plague era. plus, after moving to Philadelphia, it's been at least 5 years since I was there.

but the interior was enormous. entire cold-room of cheeses. entire room of various olive oils, and plates of sliced crusty bread set out to sample a dozen different kinds.

thing was, they know how to sell. give me a nice cracker with some fig or apricot jam, and a pungent soft cheese? and you better bet I am going to be buying some of those things.
 
2021-04-15 11:05:55 PM  
I was there to pick up another jar of salty Marmite, but to my dismay the shelves had been ransacked.

You don't need to go to a specialty cheese shop to get those things in NYC. I've seen Marmite in literally the opposite environment: 24/7 produce farm targeting Caribbean immigrants that looks like a stiff breeze could knock it over.

I can make peace with wild rice when the bodega is out of my beloved basmati.

Maybe it's because I'm sorta Rican and a native of the NYC area but I get kind of annoyed when these food writers living in these gentrified parts of Brooklyn claim to buy all this exotic non-Latin shiat at their local "bodega." The only time anyone has to "make peace" at a bodega is when they only have regular loosies instead of 100s, or only have cans of black eyed peas instead of gandules, or when their scratchoff doesn't win.

The Sri Lankan side of my family (Sri Lanka is the biggest importer of Marmite worldwide, a remnant of colonialism) adds a thin shellac of orange marmalade, which gives the whole thing a zingy, sweet-bitter slickness.

I actually kind of referenced the colonialism thing in my Weeners, incidentally, just people from a different part of the former British Empire.

Brooklyn Douchiness grade: 3/10. I've read much much much much worse on this tab. That said when I lived in Brooklyn it was pretty easy to avoid yuppie and hipster bullshiat for the small cost of a longer subway ride.
 
2021-04-15 11:45:43 PM  

IHadMeAVision: I was there to pick up another jar of salty Marmite, but to my dismay the shelves had been ransacked.

You don't need to go to a specialty cheese shop to get those things in NYC. I've seen Marmite in literally the opposite environment: 24/7 produce farm targeting Caribbean immigrants that looks like a stiff breeze could knock it over.

I can make peace with wild rice when the bodega is out of my beloved basmati.

Maybe it's because I'm sorta Rican and a native of the NYC area but I get kind of annoyed when these food writers living in these gentrified parts of Brooklyn claim to buy all this exotic non-Latin shiat at their local "bodega." The only time anyone has to "make peace" at a bodega is when they only have regular loosies instead of 100s, or only have cans of black eyed peas instead of gandules, or when their scratchoff doesn't win.

The Sri Lankan side of my family (Sri Lanka is the biggest importer of Marmite worldwide, a remnant of colonialism) adds a thin shellac of orange marmalade, which gives the whole thing a zingy, sweet-bitter slickness.

I actually kind of referenced the colonialism thing in my Weeners, incidentally, just people from a different part of the former British Empire.

Brooklyn Douchiness grade: 3/10. I've read much much much much worse on this tab. That said when I lived in Brooklyn it was pretty easy to avoid yuppie and hipster bullshiat for the small cost of a longer subway ride.


lived in both Williamsburg (eh, was in desperate need of a place, and friend of a friend was off on an archaeological dig and just wanted someone to pay their rent, lol) - and Bed-Stuy. hipsters were easy enough to avoid, but, fair-play, I may have actually been one at the time lol?

nothing against bodegas, but they mainly seemed to sell past-date overpriced dry goods, and questionable fruit. the real thing is to wander all the way to a card-table in the back where some old ladies are selling some of the best tortas and empanadas you ever had.

in williamsburg, I shopped exclusively at the Russian deli across the corner (who always tried talking very-bad-Ukrainian to me, lol. how do they know??!?) - and in bedstuy the Halal deli across the street.

/huh, I don't think that helped, I still kind of sound like a dick
 
2021-04-16 1:19:37 AM  

tintar: IHadMeAVision: I was there to pick up another jar of salty Marmite, but to my dismay the shelves had been ransacked.

You don't need to go to a specialty cheese shop to get those things in NYC. I've seen Marmite in literally the opposite environment: 24/7 produce farm targeting Caribbean immigrants that looks like a stiff breeze could knock it over.

I can make peace with wild rice when the bodega is out of my beloved basmati.

Maybe it's because I'm sorta Rican and a native of the NYC area but I get kind of annoyed when these food writers living in these gentrified parts of Brooklyn claim to buy all this exotic non-Latin shiat at their local "bodega." The only time anyone has to "make peace" at a bodega is when they only have regular loosies instead of 100s, or only have cans of black eyed peas instead of gandules, or when their scratchoff doesn't win.

The Sri Lankan side of my family (Sri Lanka is the biggest importer of Marmite worldwide, a remnant of colonialism) adds a thin shellac of orange marmalade, which gives the whole thing a zingy, sweet-bitter slickness.

I actually kind of referenced the colonialism thing in my Weeners, incidentally, just people from a different part of the former British Empire.

Brooklyn Douchiness grade: 3/10. I've read much much much much worse on this tab. That said when I lived in Brooklyn it was pretty easy to avoid yuppie and hipster bullshiat for the small cost of a longer subway ride.

lived in both Williamsburg (eh, was in desperate need of a place, and friend of a friend was off on an archaeological dig and just wanted someone to pay their rent, lol) - and Bed-Stuy. hipsters were easy enough to avoid, but, fair-play, I may have actually been one at the time lol?

nothing against bodegas, but they mainly seemed to sell past-date overpriced dry goods, and questionable fruit. the real thing is to wander all the way to a card-table in the back where some old ladies are selling some of the best tortas and empanadas you ever had.

in williamsburg, I shopped exclusively at the Russian deli across the corner (who always tried talking very-bad-Ukrainian to me, lol. how do they know??!?) - and in bedstuy the Halal deli across the street.

/huh, I don't think that helped, I still kind of sound like a dick


Nah. There's a foofy food place in Red Lodge, MT. Truffles, caviar, excellent cheeses etc. We stop everytime we run through that way.

And I always make a stop at TJs when I head back Chicago way to visit fam. But their cheese selection ain't quite what it was. One of the only places I can get Calvados reasonably priced.

/is Trader Joe's considered as douchey as whole foods?
 
2021-04-16 1:52:01 AM  
We had a great Italian deli in town with thousands of cheeses along with all kinds of Italian and European products. I found caramelized cheese there, it's called Ski cheese I think, and all sorts of wonderful things. They were near a Greyhound/other bus stop and did a great business for nearly 70 years. Then their landlord raised the rent and they moved to a new location. They were out of business in a year and I have no idea if there's been anything to replace them. I am disabled (and had a stroke 2 months ago) so I really miss being able to browse a store and samples, but the fact that the one market I really really miss isn't around anymore anyway makes it a little better. I have to get comfortable ordering perishables through the mail since I'll never be able to go to a market again even if they are open.
 
2021-04-16 2:44:13 AM  

silvervial: We had a great Italian deli in town with thousands of cheeses along with all kinds of Italian and European products. I found caramelized cheese there, it's called Ski cheese I think, and all sorts of wonderful things. They were near a Greyhound/other bus stop and did a great business for nearly 70 years. Then their landlord raised the rent and they moved to a new location. They were out of business in a year and I have no idea if there's been anything to replace them. I am disabled (and had a stroke 2 months ago) so I really miss being able to browse a store and samples, but the fact that the one market I really really miss isn't around anymore anyway makes it a little better. I have to get comfortable ordering perishables through the mail since I'll never be able to go to a market again even if they are open.


Ski queen is the brand of cheese you're thinking of. It's not really a cheese but boiled down whey. Native to Norway it's called gjetost (yay-toast). Really good with game.

Slightly related: if you get a chance, play around with combining fennel and juniper like in the link. It's my new favorite winter flavor combo and works on game like in the above but beef and pork as well.

/hope recovery is going well
 
2021-04-16 4:20:03 AM  
I had stopped into Hiller & Moon, the Brooklyn cheese shop and specialty grocery that stocks all the British snacks I miss from the part of my childhood spent in London-minty Aero Bars, crunchy Twiglets, and creamy Cadburys.

Big deal. I can get all that stuff at my local Shaw's.
 
2021-04-16 8:31:51 AM  

NINEv2: is Trader Joe's considered as douchey as whole foods?


no, I think they're generally well received. I think they're a bit overrated, but nothing douchey about them.
 
2021-04-16 8:32:24 AM  

eyeq360: vudukungfu: oh, come on, subs, just how douch... cauliflower steaks?

GTFO

Cauliflower steaks are not an acceptable substitute for actual beef.


I don't believe anyone has suggested as much.
 
2021-04-16 10:52:59 AM  

NINEv2: silvervial: We had a great Italian deli in town with thousands of cheeses along with all kinds of Italian and European products. I found caramelized cheese there, it's called Ski cheese I think, and all sorts of wonderful things. They were near a Greyhound/other bus stop and did a great business for nearly 70 years. Then their landlord raised the rent and they moved to a new location. They were out of business in a year and I have no idea if there's been anything to replace them. I am disabled (and had a stroke 2 months ago) so I really miss being able to browse a store and samples, but the fact that the one market I really really miss isn't around anymore anyway makes it a little better. I have to get comfortable ordering perishables through the mail since I'll never be able to go to a market again even if they are open.

Ski queen is the brand of cheese you're thinking of. It's not really a cheese but boiled down whey. Native to Norway it's called gjetost (yay-toast). Really good with game.


ahh, right, that stuff! I cannot remember the brand, it was simply labelled as, "brunost" - the cheese-lady in my previous life recommended it. not bad a'tall, but I'm not exactly the biggest fan of whey (ricotta etc.) - well, except using it to ferment ginger-beer, and sometimes to help mak-kimchi along.

/really miss my cheese-lady
//she'd always be like, "oh, hey you! we're just out of vacherousse/st.andre/chaource/leidseka​as/or-whatever, but it'll be in by week's end!"
///wiki's photo of gjetost/mysost, not mine

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2021-04-16 11:03:38 AM  

tintar: NINEv2: silvervial: We had a great Italian deli in town with thousands of cheeses along with all kinds of Italian and European products. I found caramelized cheese there, it's called Ski cheese I think, and all sorts of wonderful things. They were near a Greyhound/other bus stop and did a great business for nearly 70 years. Then their landlord raised the rent and they moved to a new location. They were out of business in a year and I have no idea if there's been anything to replace them. I am disabled (and had a stroke 2 months ago) so I really miss being able to browse a store and samples, but the fact that the one market I really really miss isn't around anymore anyway makes it a little better. I have to get comfortable ordering perishables through the mail since I'll never be able to go to a market again even if they are open.

Ski queen is the brand of cheese you're thinking of. It's not really a cheese but boiled down whey. Native to Norway it's called gjetost (yay-toast). Really good with game.

ahh, right, that stuff! I cannot remember the brand, it was simply labelled as, "brunost" - the cheese-lady in my previous life recommended it. not bad a'tall, but I'm not exactly the biggest fan of whey (ricotta etc.) - well, except using it to ferment ginger-beer, and sometimes to help mak-kimchi along.

/really miss my cheese-lady
//she'd always be like, "oh, hey you! we're just out of vacherousse/st.andre/chaource/leidseka​as/or-whatever, but it'll be in by week's end!"
///wiki's photo of gjetost/mysost, not mine

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Sounds like you're a fan of stank. If you get the chance, try this. Soooo good on a baguette.

/even better than my usual blue castello
 
2021-04-16 11:34:51 AM  

NINEv2: Sounds like you're a fan of stank. If you get the chance, try this. Soooo good on a baguette.

/even better than my usual blue castello


omg that looks so noms! for the past year, we only stop in the marche barely long enough to buy beer/wine, but in about 2 weeks our 2nd shots should have fully kicked in and we can browse with reckless abandon.

never ordered cheese online (well, no, tell a lie, I've bought Provel (lol!) and Cougar Gold) - but I may just have to try that Jasper Hill, wow they have plenty of other good-looking ones too.

can't find any photos of my own (prolly 'cos we inhaled it so fast) but the Amish Pedlars' Dance-Dance Village had huntsman (basicamente Stilton inside Double-Gloucestershire) and holy-wow is that one of the best things I've ever eaten. I've actually later managed to buy it at the supermarket, but danged if I can remember which one. man, it's been so long since I had decent cheeses.

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cheese-lady turned me on to Cashel Blue. le-sigh, I really do miss her. well, and obvs. the cheese.

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/will also have to keep an eye out for that castello
 
2021-04-16 11:41:04 AM  

tintar: NINEv2: Sounds like you're a fan of stank. If you get the chance, try this. Soooo good on a baguette.

/even better than my usual blue castello

omg that looks so noms! for the past year, we only stop in the marche barely long enough to buy beer/wine, but in about 2 weeks our 2nd shots should have fully kicked in and we can browse with reckless abandon.

never ordered cheese online (well, no, tell a lie, I've bought Provel (lol!) and Cougar Gold) - but I may just have to try that Jasper Hill, wow they have plenty of other good-looking ones too.

can't find any photos of my own (prolly 'cos we inhaled it so fast) but the Amish Pedlars' Dance-Dance Village had huntsman (basicamente Stilton inside Double-Gloucestershire) and holy-wow is that one of the best things I've ever eaten. I've actually later managed to buy it at the supermarket, but danged if I can remember which one. man, it's been so long since I had decent cheeses.

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cheese-lady turned me on to Cashel Blue. le-sigh, I really do miss her. well, and obvs. the cheese.

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/will also have to keep an eye out for that castello


The castello is my all time fave. It's like cambozola, but a touch sweeter and with a hair more "blue", though still mild and spreadable. Careful though you want wedges or wheels with rind. There are two types and it gets confusing.
This:
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2021-04-16 1:02:49 PM  
also, I don't know why, but I keep mis-reading the name as: Hitler-Moose.

oh dear lord, that's Actually A Thing?!

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2021-04-16 2:51:21 PM  
 
2021-04-16 2:55:25 PM  

NINEv2: Ski queen is the brand of cheese you're thinking of. It's not really a cheese but boiled down whey. Native to Norway it's called gjetost (yay-toast). Really good with game.


I love gjetost. I saw it on New Scandinavian Cooking and was intrigued by it. One of the local supermarkets--Hy-Vee, I think--had it on sale.
 
2021-04-16 4:02:25 PM  

eyeq360: NINEv2: Ski queen is the brand of cheese you're thinking of. It's not really a cheese but boiled down whey. Native to Norway it's called gjetost (yay-toast). Really good with game.

I love gjetost. I saw it on New Scandinavian Cooking and was intrigued by it. One of the local supermarkets--Hy-Vee, I think--had it on sale.


For me New Scandinavian cooking is second only to anything Jacques. Love that show.
 
2021-04-16 4:47:42 PM  
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2021-04-16 6:41:22 PM  

tintar: lived in both Williamsburg (eh, was in desperate need of a place, and friend of a friend was off on an archaeological dig and just wanted someone to pay their rent, lol) - and Bed-Stuy. hipsters were easy enough to avoid, but, fair-play, I may have actually been one at the time lol?

nothing against bodegas, but they mainly seemed to sell past-date overpriced dry goods, and questionable fruit. the real thing is to wander all the way to a card-table in the back where some old ladies are selling some of the best tortas and empanadas you ever had.

in williamsburg, I shopped exclusively at the Russian deli across the corner (who always tried talking very-bad-Ukrainian to me, lol. how do they know??!?) - and in bedstuy the Halal deli across the street.

/huh, I don't think that helped, I still kind of sound like a dick


Speaking of Williamsburg recently I had a job interview over in the kinda downtown part around Bedford Ave and Metro (I'm more familiar with down by Broadway and Marcy) and it's crazy how different everything was from when I was in my teens and early 20s and had artsy/punky friends who liked to hang out around there in the mid 2000s. Seemed like the counterculture stuff was completely gone, I guess that's all moved farther down the subway line. Lots of construction but I'm not exactly shedding a tear for those old ugly wooden shacks from the 19th century.
 
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