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(MLB Trade Rumors)   Atlantic League to experiment double hook DH and moving the pitching rubber back one foot. Important question: how does a DH hold a bat with two hooks?   (mlbtraderumors.com) divider line
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2021-04-14 2:46:42 PM  
Oh, I like the 'double-hook' thing.  When you pull the starting pitcher, you also lose the DH.  So either the relief pitchers hit, or you need to use a pinch-hitter in the former DH slot (which incidentally benches the relief pitcher, of course).

Anything to disrupt the routine where the starter pitches 5 innings, then sits regardless of the score, while the specialist 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th inning pitchers come in.
 
2021-04-14 2:54:19 PM  

FrancoFile: Oh, I like the 'double-hook' thing.  When you pull the starting pitcher, you also lose the DH.  So either the relief pitchers hit, or you need to use a pinch-hitter in the former DH slot (which incidentally benches the relief pitcher, of course).

Anything to disrupt the routine where the starter pitches 5 innings, then sits regardless of the score, while the specialist 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th inning pitchers come in.


Why do you hate the 'opener' concept?
 
2021-04-14 2:59:56 PM  

The Bestest: FrancoFile: Oh, I like the 'double-hook' thing.  When you pull the starting pitcher, you also lose the DH.  So either the relief pitchers hit, or you need to use a pinch-hitter in the former DH slot (which incidentally benches the relief pitcher, of course).

Anything to disrupt the routine where the starter pitches 5 innings, then sits regardless of the score, while the specialist 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th inning pitchers come in.

Why do you hate the 'opener' concept?


Because it's cool to see a pitcher try for a complete game.

And it's a bizarre concept that doesn't exist in other sports.  There are no opening/closing quarterbacks or goalies.  Basketball teams rotate their guards, and they might have offensive specialists and defensive specialists, but they don't sit the starting point guard for the entire 4th quarter.
 
2021-04-14 3:26:31 PM  
This leads to the question of why bother with a DH at all. Why are only starting pitchers being protected?
 
2021-04-14 3:35:33 PM  

FrancoFile: The Bestest: FrancoFile: Oh, I like the 'double-hook' thing.  When you pull the starting pitcher, you also lose the DH.  So either the relief pitchers hit, or you need to use a pinch-hitter in the former DH slot (which incidentally benches the relief pitcher, of course).

Anything to disrupt the routine where the starter pitches 5 innings, then sits regardless of the score, while the specialist 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th inning pitchers come in.

Why do you hate the 'opener' concept?

Because it's cool to see a pitcher try for a complete game.

And it's a bizarre concept that doesn't exist in other sports.  There are no opening/closing quarterbacks or goalies.  Basketball teams rotate their guards, and they might have offensive specialists and defensive specialists, but they don't sit the starting point guard for the entire 4th quarter.


Except, in some ways it does exist in all other sports.

Football will stop handing off to the bruising running back if they are down by 21 in the third quarter. That running back is effectively benched in favor of receivers.

Defensive linemen who are pass rushing specialists will be in the game, replacing those better against the run. Defensive packages are changed to be dime packages instead of loading up the box.

Imagine if a football coach had to declare the starting 22 each game and any substituted players they can't go back in.

Same in basketball. Nobody cares if Lebron plays every minute. Not sure why people value the complete game. It has lost all meaning in the last 30 years.
 
2021-04-14 3:40:26 PM  

tedduque: Football will stop handing off to the bruising running back if they are down by 21 in the third quarter. That running back is effectively benched in favor of receivers.

Defensive linemen who are pass rushing specialists will be in the game, replacing those better against the run. Defensive packages are changed to be dime packages instead of loading up the box.


Those things are done in response to the game situation.

The decision to bench the starter after an arbitrary number of innings and/or pitches thrown has nothing to do with the game situation.
 
2021-04-14 3:43:06 PM  
So let's make something clear: the DH is coming to the NL. I hate it. I think it's stupid. But it's inevitable.

But if this is the rule they come up with for a universal DH; I'm fine with this idea. It should encourage teams to develop starting pitchers who can go 7, 8, 9 innings and not rely on bullpens as much. I think it could encourage teams to have DHs who aren't one-dimensional and can play defense (and you could preserve options like double switches with that). And it could still allow teams who have pitchers who can hit (like Otani with the Angels, for example) to decide "hey, we'll save a bat on the bench and have our pitcher hit."
 
2021-04-14 3:43:07 PM  
I think this double-hook thing could be the solution to the DH/no-DH debate across baseball.

I'm a traditionalist who actually is OK with the DH (mostly because by "tradition" I mean I grew up with the DH and rooting for an AL team).

But... I like this idea a lot.
 
2021-04-14 3:50:20 PM  
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2021-04-14 3:51:34 PM  

FrancoFile: Oh, I like the 'double-hook' thing.  When you pull the starting pitcher, you also lose the DH.  So either the relief pitchers hit, or you need to use a pinch-hitter in the former DH slot (which incidentally benches the relief pitcher, of course).

Anything to disrupt the routine where the starter pitches 5 innings, then sits regardless of the score, while the specialist 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th inning pitchers come in.


It also cuts back on the number of 10 minute breaks in the game while the relievers warm up, hopefully. I know the old-men-who-yell-at-clouds don't think pace or length of the game matters, but they're incredibly wrong.
 
2021-04-14 3:54:23 PM  
If they're going to mess with the mound, they should raise it back to 18 inches instead of changing the distance. See if guys aren't as gassed after 100 pitches when gravity's doing more work for them.
 
2021-04-14 3:55:46 PM  

tedduque: FrancoFile: The Bestest: FrancoFile: Oh, I like the 'double-hook' thing.  When you pull the starting pitcher, you also lose the DH.  So either the relief pitchers hit, or you need to use a pinch-hitter in the former DH slot (which incidentally benches the relief pitcher, of course).

Anything to disrupt the routine where the starter pitches 5 innings, then sits regardless of the score, while the specialist 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th inning pitchers come in.

Why do you hate the 'opener' concept?

Because it's cool to see a pitcher try for a complete game.

And it's a bizarre concept that doesn't exist in other sports.  There are no opening/closing quarterbacks or goalies.  Basketball teams rotate their guards, and they might have offensive specialists and defensive specialists, but they don't sit the starting point guard for the entire 4th quarter.

Except, in some ways it does exist in all other sports.

Football will stop handing off to the bruising running back if they are down by 21 in the third quarter. That running back is effectively benched in favor of receivers.

Defensive linemen who are pass rushing specialists will be in the game, replacing those better against the run. Defensive packages are changed to be dime packages instead of loading up the box.

Imagine if a football coach had to declare the starting 22 each game and any substituted players they can't go back in.

Same in basketball. Nobody cares if Lebron plays every minute. Not sure why people value the complete game. It has lost all meaning in the last 30 years.


You can't really compare other sports to baseball when it comes to substitutions, since once you're out of an MLB game, you're out.

I think the double hook DH is an interesting idea that adds a bit of strategy that is otherwise lacking with the DH. You might even see an honest to goodness double switch in an AL game where a DH that's due up next inning is brought in to play defense if the starting pitcher is yanked. Sure, it effectively screws AL teams that want to use an opener, but there's nothing stopping them from not using a DH in those games, and just pinch hitting for the pitcher's spot when it comes around. It's probably the least terrible experimental rule I've seen baseball implement in the last ten years.
 
2021-04-14 4:04:19 PM  
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2021-04-14 4:09:44 PM  

FrancoFile: tedduque: Football will stop handing off to the bruising running back if they are down by 21 in the third quarter. That running back is effectively benched in favor of receivers.

Defensive linemen who are pass rushing specialists will be in the game, replacing those better against the run. Defensive packages are changed to be dime packages instead of loading up the box.

Those things are done in response to the game situation.

The decision to bench the starter after an arbitrary number of innings and/or pitches thrown has nothing to do with the game situation.

Quarterbacks aren't asked to throw a ball 90 mph 100 times a game 2x/week. If they were expected to do that you bet they'd be pulled regularly to preserve that $40,000,000/year arm.


If you are a manager and you knew you could have a pitcher for 250 6 inning outings (10 years, 25 starts/year) or you could have them for 150 8 inning outings (6 years, 25 starts/year), which would you take? Bear in mind that in a tiny fraction of those games you leave them in for 8 innings will it make a difference in the outcome of the game. Also, a baseball season is LOOOOONG. 10x longer than a football season. 1 game means far, far less in baseball than in football.
 
2021-04-14 4:20:32 PM  

tedduque: FrancoFile: tedduque: Football will stop handing off to the bruising running back if they are down by 21 in the third quarter. That running back is effectively benched in favor of receivers.

Defensive linemen who are pass rushing specialists will be in the game, replacing those better against the run. Defensive packages are changed to be dime packages instead of loading up the box.

Those things are done in response to the game situation.

The decision to bench the starter after an arbitrary number of innings and/or pitches thrown has nothing to do with the game situation.
Quarterbacks aren't asked to throw a ball 90 mph 100 times a game 2x/week. If they were expected to do that you bet they'd be pulled regularly to preserve that $40,000,000/year arm.


If you are a manager and you knew you could have a pitcher for 250 6 inning outings (10 years, 25 starts/year) or you could have them for 150 8 inning outings (6 years, 25 starts/year), which would you take? Bear in mind that in a tiny fraction of those games you leave them in for 8 innings will it make a difference in the outcome of the game. Also, a baseball season is LOOOOONG. 10x longer than a football season. 1 game means far, far less in baseball than in football.



Look, I understand all that.  Pitching rotations have been SABR min-maxed out the wazoo.

I'm saying that it makes the game less enjoyable for the spectators (also see post upthread about multiple 10-minute relief pitcher warmup breaks).

If there's a way to tweak the incentive structure so that the game is more fun to watch - because there is a greater likelihood of scoring and lead changes in the last 3-4 innings - then I'm all for it.
 
2021-04-14 4:30:11 PM  
If the average fastball is 93.3 mph on average, then (if my calculations are correct) adding 1 foot of distance between the pitching rubber and the plate will give the batter, on average, an additional 0.0073 seconds of reaction time.  That's 7.3 milliseconds.

For comparison, the fastest human reaction time to any visual stimulus is well over 100 milliseconds.  It takes more than 20 milliseconds for visual information to even reach the brain from the eye.

I don't see how an additional 7.3 milliseonds could possibly make any difference.
 
2021-04-14 4:31:50 PM  
...very carefully...
 
2021-04-14 4:47:45 PM  

Doc Daneeka: If the average fastball is 93.3 mph on average, then (if my calculations are correct) adding 1 foot of distance between the pitching rubber and the plate will give the batter, on average, an additional 0.0073 seconds of reaction time.  That's 7.3 milliseconds.

For comparison, the fastest human reaction time to any visual stimulus is well over 100 milliseconds.  It takes more than 20 milliseconds for visual information to even reach the brain from the eye.

I don't see how an additional 7.3 milliseonds could possibly make any difference.


This is just the beginning. The end game is to have a combination second base/pitching rubber.
 
2021-04-14 4:48:49 PM  

ChrisDe: Doc Daneeka: If the average fastball is 93.3 mph on average, then (if my calculations are correct) adding 1 foot of distance between the pitching rubber and the plate will give the batter, on average, an additional 0.0073 seconds of reaction time.  That's 7.3 milliseconds.

For comparison, the fastest human reaction time to any visual stimulus is well over 100 milliseconds.  It takes more than 20 milliseconds for visual information to even reach the brain from the eye.

I don't see how an additional 7.3 milliseonds could possibly make any difference.

This is just the beginning. The end game is to have a combination second base/pitching rubber.


That's going to make it really hard to steal second.
 
2021-04-14 4:53:16 PM  
The goal of the rule, per the league, is to "incentivize teams to leave their starting pitchers in longer...

With young and developing arms, what can go wrong?

/aware that the Atlantic League is not a hotbed of top prospects
 
2021-04-14 4:53:55 PM  

FrancoFile: ChrisDe: Doc Daneeka: If the average fastball is 93.3 mph on average, then (if my calculations are correct) adding 1 foot of distance between the pitching rubber and the plate will give the batter, on average, an additional 0.0073 seconds of reaction time.  That's 7.3 milliseconds.

For comparison, the fastest human reaction time to any visual stimulus is well over 100 milliseconds.  It takes more than 20 milliseconds for visual information to even reach the brain from the eye.

I don't see how an additional 7.3 milliseonds could possibly make any difference.

This is just the beginning. The end game is to have a combination second base/pitching rubber.

That's going to make it really hard to steal second.


Nah, stealing second would be about the same, presuming the runner on first takes off with the pitch.

What would be way harder is stealing third.  How is a runner on second base supposed to take a lead off?
 
2021-04-14 4:54:57 PM  

FrancoFile: tedduque: FrancoFile: tedduque: Football will stop handing off to the bruising running back if they are down by 21 in the third quarter. That running back is effectively benched in favor of receivers.

Defensive linemen who are pass rushing specialists will be in the game, replacing those better against the run. Defensive packages are changed to be dime packages instead of loading up the box.

Those things are done in response to the game situation.

The decision to bench the starter after an arbitrary number of innings and/or pitches thrown has nothing to do with the game situation.
Quarterbacks aren't asked to throw a ball 90 mph 100 times a game 2x/week. If they were expected to do that you bet they'd be pulled regularly to preserve that $40,000,000/year arm.


If you are a manager and you knew you could have a pitcher for 250 6 inning outings (10 years, 25 starts/year) or you could have them for 150 8 inning outings (6 years, 25 starts/year), which would you take? Bear in mind that in a tiny fraction of those games you leave them in for 8 innings will it make a difference in the outcome of the game. Also, a baseball season is LOOOOONG. 10x longer than a football season. 1 game means far, far less in baseball than in football.


Look, I understand all that.  Pitching rotations have been SABR min-maxed out the wazoo.

I'm saying that it makes the game less enjoyable for the spectators (also see post upthread about multiple 10-minute relief pitcher warmup breaks).

If there's a way to tweak the incentive structure so that the game is more fun to watch - because there is a greater likelihood of scoring and lead changes in the last 3-4 innings - then I'm all for it.


I couldn't agree more the 10 minute pitcher change is a disgrace. Baseball needs to find a way to speed up that process.

I think we just disagree about what is more fun to watch. I'd rather watch a quality pitcher for more innings overall than watch them go an extra inning or two each outing and thus end up with fewer innings overall.

Only under some very rare conditions would that change, like if they have a no hitter going in the 6th. But if that is true, chances are they haven't gotten to 100 pitches in the 6th.
 
2021-04-14 4:58:51 PM  

FrancoFile: The Bestest: FrancoFile: Oh, I like the 'double-hook' thing.  When you pull the starting pitcher, you also lose the DH.  So either the relief pitchers hit, or you need to use a pinch-hitter in the former DH slot (which incidentally benches the relief pitcher, of course).

Anything to disrupt the routine where the starter pitches 5 innings, then sits regardless of the score, while the specialist 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th inning pitchers come in.

Why do you hate the 'opener' concept?

Because it's cool to see a pitcher try for a complete game.

And it's a bizarre concept that doesn't exist in other sports.  There are no opening/closing quarterbacks or goalies.  Basketball teams rotate their guards, and they might have offensive specialists and defensive specialists, but they don't sit the starting point guard for the entire 4th quarter.


Track and swimming relays have a closer.  I think it's more an artifact of baseball having the rule that once you leave, you're out of the game.  Only other sport I can think of like that is soccer.
 
2021-04-14 5:23:08 PM  
can manfred and his crew just go off and invent whatever new game they seem to want to transform baseball into and leave baseball alone

baseball could use some tweaks maybe, but they clearly hate the sport.  leave it to some people who actually care about it
 
2021-04-14 5:46:32 PM  
NTT but its 100 days til the TOKE YO 2020 Olympics -- which were pushed back from last year thx2 Covid -- so thats 3 carry the one, there was no year zero...

/name chexout
 
2021-04-14 5:59:41 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: It also cuts back on the number of 10 minute breaks in the game while the relievers warm up, hopefully. I know the old-men-who-yell-at-clouds don't think pace or length of the game matters, but they're incredibly wrong.


If the total length of the game is an issue, they can cut commercial breaks to one minute, max.  Charge more for ads.

There.  Saved half an hour, maybe more.  And no commercial breaks at pitching or other player changes.

Leave the game alone.  And leave the DH out of the NL.

I'd have more, but I see a cloud that needs a good yelling at.
 
2021-04-14 6:11:06 PM  

tedduque: FrancoFile: tedduque: FrancoFile: tedduque: Football will stop handing off to the bruising running back if they are down by 21 in the third quarter. That running back is effectively benched in favor of receivers.

Defensive linemen who are pass rushing specialists will be in the game, replacing those better against the run. Defensive packages are changed to be dime packages instead of loading up the box.

Those things are done in response to the game situation.

The decision to bench the starter after an arbitrary number of innings and/or pitches thrown has nothing to do with the game situation.
Quarterbacks aren't asked to throw a ball 90 mph 100 times a game 2x/week. If they were expected to do that you bet they'd be pulled regularly to preserve that $40,000,000/year arm.


If you are a manager and you knew you could have a pitcher for 250 6 inning outings (10 years, 25 starts/year) or you could have them for 150 8 inning outings (6 years, 25 starts/year), which would you take? Bear in mind that in a tiny fraction of those games you leave them in for 8 innings will it make a difference in the outcome of the game. Also, a baseball season is LOOOOONG. 10x longer than a football season. 1 game means far, far less in baseball than in football.


Look, I understand all that.  Pitching rotations have been SABR min-maxed out the wazoo.

I'm saying that it makes the game less enjoyable for the spectators (also see post upthread about multiple 10-minute relief pitcher warmup breaks).

If there's a way to tweak the incentive structure so that the game is more fun to watch - because there is a greater likelihood of scoring and lead changes in the last 3-4 innings - then I'm all for it.

I couldn't agree more the 10 minute pitcher change is a disgrace. Baseball needs to find a way to speed up that process.

I think we just disagree about what is more fun to watch. I'd rather watch a quality pitcher for more innings overall than watch them go an extra inning or two each outing and thus end up with fewer innings overall.

Only under some very rare conditions would that change, like if they have a no hitter going in the 6th. But if that is true, chances are they haven't gotten to 100 pitches in the 6th.


With the exception of cases where a pitcher is relieved due to injury, most changes take less than five minutes. They time them now. It's barely enough time to go for a piss, grab another beer, and get back to your seat.
 
2021-04-14 6:30:12 PM  

SFSailor: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: It also cuts back on the number of 10 minute breaks in the game while the relievers warm up, hopefully. I know the old-men-who-yell-at-clouds don't think pace or length of the game matters, but they're incredibly wrong.

If the total length of the game is an issue, they can cut commercial breaks to one minute, max.  Charge more for ads.

There.  Saved half an hour, maybe more.  And no commercial breaks at pitching or other player changes.

Leave the game alone.  And leave the DH out of the NL.

I'd have more, but I see a cloud that needs a good yelling at.


So, what exactly would be on the TV screen during the pitching changes, filler? And it's definitely not just the commercial breaks that are slowing shiat down. All the shiatty ritual around signaling pitcher, batter fixing his jock, conferences at the mound, etc. Yeah, I know, traditionalists want the game to be just like the 70s when they used to watch it with their daddy and maybe he'd give them a sip of his Hamm's. But the world has been getting faster and baseball has been getting slower. Status quo isn't going to create a new generation of baseball fans out of the Tik Tok crowd who, like it or not, will be the necessary target demo after all the old farts die off.
 
2021-04-14 6:32:01 PM  
Just invent a new f%$king game already
 
2021-04-14 8:08:58 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: SFSailor: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: It also cuts back on the number of 10 minute breaks in the game while the relievers warm up, hopefully. I know the old-men-who-yell-at-clouds don't think pace or length of the game matters, but they're incredibly wrong.

If the total length of the game is an issue, they can cut commercial breaks to one minute, max.  Charge more for ads.

There.  Saved half an hour, maybe more.  And no commercial breaks at pitching or other player changes.

Leave the game alone.  And leave the DH out of the NL.

I'd have more, but I see a cloud that needs a good yelling at.

So, what exactly would be on the TV screen during the pitching changes, filler? And it's definitely not just the commercial breaks that are slowing shiat down. All the shiatty ritual around signaling pitcher, batter fixing his jock, conferences at the mound, etc. Yeah, I know, traditionalists want the game to be just like the 70s when they used to watch it with their daddy and maybe he'd give them a sip of his Hamm's. But the world has been getting faster and baseball has been getting slower. Status quo isn't going to create a new generation of baseball fans out of the Tik Tok crowd who, like it or not, will be the necessary target demo after all the old farts die off.


I mean, look at cricket. I'm old, so I think 20/20 (3 hour match essentially, each team gets 120 deliveries) is an abomination, but younger fans love it.
 
2021-04-14 8:48:45 PM  

drewogatory: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: SFSailor: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: It also cuts back on the number of 10 minute breaks in the game while the relievers warm up, hopefully. I know the old-men-who-yell-at-clouds don't think pace or length of the game matters, but they're incredibly wrong.

If the total length of the game is an issue, they can cut commercial breaks to one minute, max.  Charge more for ads.

There.  Saved half an hour, maybe more.  And no commercial breaks at pitching or other player changes.

Leave the game alone.  And leave the DH out of the NL.

I'd have more, but I see a cloud that needs a good yelling at.

So, what exactly would be on the TV screen during the pitching changes, filler? And it's definitely not just the commercial breaks that are slowing shiat down. All the shiatty ritual around signaling pitcher, batter fixing his jock, conferences at the mound, etc. Yeah, I know, traditionalists want the game to be just like the 70s when they used to watch it with their daddy and maybe he'd give them a sip of his Hamm's. But the world has been getting faster and baseball has been getting slower. Status quo isn't going to create a new generation of baseball fans out of the Tik Tok crowd who, like it or not, will be the necessary target demo after all the old farts die off.

I mean, look at cricket. I'm old, so I think 20/20 (3 hour match essentially, each team gets 120 deliveries) is an abomination, but younger fans love it.


Right, and how many cricket captains, Test or Twenty20, have copped fines for slow over-rates (i.e. taking too long between deliveries)?  Admittedly that's got as much to do with fast bowlers starting their run-ups from three miles up the road as all the other little rituals the other players insist on, but much like baseball's issue it's still a problem that could be solved with serious, immediate penalties.
 
2021-04-14 8:54:11 PM  

caira: drewogatory: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: SFSailor: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: It also cuts back on the number of 10 minute breaks in the game while the relievers warm up, hopefully. I know the old-men-who-yell-at-clouds don't think pace or length of the game matters, but they're incredibly wrong.

If the total length of the game is an issue, they can cut commercial breaks to one minute, max.  Charge more for ads.

There.  Saved half an hour, maybe more.  And no commercial breaks at pitching or other player changes.

Leave the game alone.  And leave the DH out of the NL.

I'd have more, but I see a cloud that needs a good yelling at.

So, what exactly would be on the TV screen during the pitching changes, filler? And it's definitely not just the commercial breaks that are slowing shiat down. All the shiatty ritual around signaling pitcher, batter fixing his jock, conferences at the mound, etc. Yeah, I know, traditionalists want the game to be just like the 70s when they used to watch it with their daddy and maybe he'd give them a sip of his Hamm's. But the world has been getting faster and baseball has been getting slower. Status quo isn't going to create a new generation of baseball fans out of the Tik Tok crowd who, like it or not, will be the necessary target demo after all the old farts die off.

I mean, look at cricket. I'm old, so I think 20/20 (3 hour match essentially, each team gets 120 deliveries) is an abomination, but younger fans love it.

Right, and how many cricket captains, Test or Twenty20, have copped fines for slow over-rates (i.e. taking too long between deliveries)?  Admittedly that's got as much to do with fast bowlers starting their run-ups from three miles up the road as all the other little rituals the other players insist on, but much like baseball's issue it's still a problem that could be solved with serious, immediate penalties.


The IPL moves right along generally, but Internationals could use a little tweaking for sure. It would help if folks didn't willfully use slow play to disrupt the batsmen.
 
2021-04-14 10:32:28 PM  
Dont DHs slow the game down by taking longer to get out than pitchers do?
 
2021-04-15 9:59:15 AM  
Well, both are just farking stupid.

Just raise the goddamn mound to 1968 levels and you're done here.
 
2021-04-15 1:15:36 PM  

The Bestest: FrancoFile: Oh, I like the 'double-hook' thing.  When you pull the starting pitcher, you also lose the DH.  So either the relief pitchers hit, or you need to use a pinch-hitter in the former DH slot (which incidentally benches the relief pitcher, of course).

Anything to disrupt the routine where the starter pitches 5 innings, then sits regardless of the score, while the specialist 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th inning pitchers come in.

Why do you hate the 'opener' concept?


Yes, I farking hate the opener concept.
 
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