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(Buzzfeed News)   New study shows that cramming 1/3 less people into a flying beer can reduces Covid transmission rates by, drum roll please... one third. That's right folks, 1/3   (buzzfeednews.com) divider line
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2021-04-14 3:43:23 PM  
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2021-04-14 4:08:57 PM  
Those numbers are too perfect! The illuminatis are behind this!
 
2021-04-14 4:09:12 PM  
Fewer.
 
2021-04-14 4:10:43 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Fewer.


But less filling.
 
2021-04-14 4:11:35 PM  

Billy Liar: Smelly Pirate Hooker: Fewer.

But less filling.


Sigh. It's 'tastes great.'
 
2021-04-14 4:11:56 PM  
It's hilarious that we've been shaming people for going to the beach and, meanwhile, thousands of people are getting on planes every day.
 
2021-04-14 4:12:29 PM  
That's not obvious
 
2021-04-14 4:13:54 PM  

Naido: It's hilarious that we've been shaming people for going to the beach and, meanwhile, thousands of people are getting on planes every day.


Well, some of those people being shamed are getting it for what they wear.
 
2021-04-14 4:14:04 PM  
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2021-04-14 4:14:56 PM  
50% of the time, studies like this are 100% correct.
 
2021-04-14 4:21:24 PM  
Führer
 
2021-04-14 4:22:12 PM  
Todd Snider - Statistician's Blues
Youtube IUK6zjtUj00
 
2021-04-14 4:23:17 PM  

Naido: It's hilarious that we've been shaming people for going to the beach and, meanwhile, thousands of people are getting on planes every day.


because beach leisure is for the poors and airline leisure isn't.
 
2021-04-14 4:24:58 PM  
FTA: "Worth noting, the study only looked at exposure to viral particles, not actual transmission of disease "


So, no, it may or may not lower transmission rates.  Presumably they can make some transmission predictions based on exposure rates, but it's not a given that it'll be a simple 1:1 correlation.
 
2021-04-14 4:26:27 PM  
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2021-04-14 4:28:54 PM  

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Man, I laughed way too hard at that!
 
2021-04-14 4:31:07 PM  
Flying always seemed extremely risky to me during the pandemic, no matter what the news reported.

Flying is essentially  a series of long term close encounters indoors with large numbers of strangers.  You wait in a crowded check in line, then a crowded TSA line, then you wait at a crowded gate, then you sit in a crowded airplane for hours, then you crowd your way out of the plane, many times onto a crowded tram to the baggage claim, then onto a crowded shuttle, or whatever else your choice for ground transportation.

It's like a series of unavoidable risks.  Especially considering those strangers are likely people that are also not taking Covid-19 very seriously.
 
2021-04-14 4:32:17 PM  

johnny_vegas: The_Sponge: [Fark user image image 425x530]

Man, I laughed way too hard at that!


Heh.

Since Subby mentioned beer cans, I had to post it.
 
2021-04-14 4:33:54 PM  
 
2021-04-14 4:35:18 PM  

gameshowhost: Naido: It's hilarious that we've been shaming people for going to the beach and, meanwhile, thousands of people are getting on planes every day.

because beach leisure is for the poors and airline leisure isn't.


I don't know exactly how it breaks down, but not all air travel during the pandemic was for leisure.
 
2021-04-14 4:45:17 PM  

Naido: It's hilarious that we've been shaming people for going to the beach and, meanwhile, thousands of people are getting on planes every day.


? Stay home. Not complicated.?🤮
 
2021-04-14 4:46:17 PM  

anfrind: gameshowhost: Naido: It's hilarious that we've been shaming people for going to the beach and, meanwhile, thousands of people are getting on planes every day.

because beach leisure is for the poors and airline leisure isn't.

I don't know exactly how it breaks down, but not all air travel during the pandemic was for leisure.


Sometimes I'll fly on a plane just for fun, while running a strobe light to trigger my epilepsy...I call it seizure leisure.
 
2021-04-14 4:47:55 PM  

ElFugawz: That's not obvious



It really isn't.  Particle/pathogen density while trapped in a tube which aggressively recycles air doesn't seem like it should perfectly track with occupancy.  Almost made me think without RTFA that the conclusion is something along the lines of "with one-third fewer people on the plane, the number of people exposed to the pathogen is one-third less, which is 100% of the occupancy."

Headline made me suspect tautology.  DNRTFA.  NGRTFA.  YCMMRTFA.  NIGTFOBYBY!
 
2021-04-14 5:00:13 PM  

anfrind: gameshowhost: Naido: It's hilarious that we've been shaming people for going to the beach and, meanwhile, thousands of people are getting on planes every day.

because beach leisure is for the poors and airline leisure isn't.

I don't know exactly how it breaks down, but not all air travel during the pandemic was for leisure.


cool non sequitur
 
2021-04-14 5:00:40 PM  
Sources say that, if this trend continues,
America will be catching all of its COVID on the bus by 2022!

//wait a minute...
 
2021-04-14 5:05:47 PM  

gameshowhost: anfrind: gameshowhost: Naido: It's hilarious that we've been shaming people for going to the beach and, meanwhile, thousands of people are getting on planes every day.

because beach leisure is for the poors and airline leisure isn't.

I don't know exactly how it breaks down, but not all air travel during the pandemic was for leisure.

cool non sequitur


You're not using that phrase correctly.
 
2021-04-14 5:12:30 PM  
New "new" study confirms that if you remove everyone on the plane no one on the plane will catch Covid.

Where's my grant money.
 
2021-04-14 5:37:36 PM  

GreatLakePirate: New "new" study confirms that if you remove everyone on the plane no one on the plane will catch Covid.

Where's my grant money.


I can give you tree-fiddy.
 
2021-04-14 5:53:06 PM  
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2021-04-14 5:53:27 PM  
 
2021-04-14 6:00:26 PM  

GreatLakePirate: New "new" study confirms that if you remove everyone on the plane no one on the plane will catch Covid.

Where's my grant money.


You joke, but there's a point in there--we should have severely restricted air travel during the pandemic, limiting it only to those who absolutely needed it, and that could have saved a lot of lives. Empty planes don't spread disease.
 
2021-04-14 6:33:06 PM  
Not sure what's so funny about "We should have been trying to reduce transmission as much as possible," but okay.
 
2021-04-14 6:33:41 PM  

anfrind: gameshowhost: anfrind: gameshowhost: Naido: It's hilarious that we've been shaming people for going to the beach and, meanwhile, thousands of people are getting on planes every day.

because beach leisure is for the poors and airline leisure isn't.

I don't know exactly how it breaks down, but not all air travel during the pandemic was for leisure.

cool non sequitur

You're not using that phrase correctly.


yes i am. "a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement."

go look at what i typed again, go look at what you typed in response again.
 
2021-04-14 6:45:31 PM  

Kuroshin: ElFugawz: That's not obvious


It really isn't.  Particle/pathogen density while trapped in a tube which aggressively recycles air doesn't seem like it should perfectly track with occupancy.  Almost made me think without RTFA that the conclusion is something along the lines of "with one-third fewer people on the plane, the number of people exposed to the pathogen is one-third less, which is 100% of the occupancy."

Headline made me suspect tautology.  DNRTFA.  NGRTFA.  YCMMRTFA.  NIGTFOBYBY!


The way the article present it, would make you think everyone who traveled gets sick, thus by reducing the number of travellers directly lowers the transition accordingly.

However, this is demonstrably not true. I know numerous people who have travelled, none of them got the Rona. That includes me. Most of them were traveling to move, a few to maybe see loved ones a last time before they died.

Either way, let's claim it's 20%. Are they claiming a linear correlation and having 2/3 of the people was still 20%... Or overall 20 people at 2/3 capacity, 20 people at full capacity.

Either way, those results would actually be pretty surprising.
 
2021-04-14 6:57:22 PM  

akya: Flying always seemed extremely risky to me during the pandemic, no matter what the news reported.

Flying is essentially  a series of long term close encounters indoors with large numbers of strangers.  You wait in a crowded check in line, then a crowded TSA line, then you wait at a crowded gate, then you sit in a crowded airplane for hours, then you crowd your way out of the plane, many times onto a crowded tram to the baggage claim, then onto a crowded shuttle, or whatever else your choice for ground transportation.

It's like a series of unavoidable risks.  Especially considering those strangers are likely people that are also not taking Covid-19 very seriously.


Consider this wacky thought though- epidemiologists are saying it's safer than eating indoors, because you and everyone else can wear your mask the whole time. Slap on an N95 and you're really in good shape.

Yes, you can fly across the country to see Timmy. No, you can't go to Olive Garden by the mall.

It's just a little idealistic in that the people at the airport are all wearing masks around their chin, but other than that it's totally valid
 
2021-04-14 6:59:27 PM  

GreatLakePirate: New "new" study confirms that if you remove everyone on the plane no one on the plane will catch Covid.

Where's my grant money.


Technically speaking, would it not suffice to remove all but one person?
 
2021-04-14 7:07:38 PM  
...but the airlines went through all that trouble to get seemingly-knowledgeable people to tell us that flying was totally safe last year! Gasp!

Granted, I never believed any of that for a second because of how air in a tube works.
 
2021-04-14 7:18:09 PM  
Flying beer can?
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2021-04-14 7:34:02 PM  
What does this have to do with the quality of the people submitter?  Do you need to go back to 8th grade English class?

Less=quality, fewer=quantity.

It's as simple as "is" versus "was."  Or They, their, they're and there and you, your, you're and other low IQ moments.
 
2021-04-14 7:41:33 PM  
And 100% of the time it results in death. Eventually.
 
2021-04-14 7:45:26 PM  
Ric Romero had to have written this revelation.
 
2021-04-14 7:53:36 PM  
So, if you filled the first 2/3rds of the rows and left the last 1/3 empty, are the results the same?
If you put everybody in the 4 left side columns and left the 2 right side columns empty, are the results the same?
If you filled the front 1/3rd of the rows and the last 1/3 of the rows and left the middle 1/3 empty, are the results the same?


Subby is a moran.
 
2021-04-14 8:03:22 PM  
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2021-04-14 8:14:25 PM  

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Surely you don't want to sit in the smoking section.
 
2021-04-14 8:53:19 PM  
I know Amtrak is mitigating things with masks and open seats but has anyone travelled by rail in the last year long haul?
 
2021-04-14 9:27:45 PM  

freakay: I know Amtrak is mitigating things with masks and open seats but has anyone travelled by rail in the last year long haul?


I know Amtrak is mitigating things with masks and open seats but has anyone travelled by rail in the last year long haul? Few decades in the US?

You have talk to East Coasters. Rail in the US for commuters only makes sense for nearby cities where dealing with TSA makes plane flights longer than using rail. Going from major cities in Europe to each other is more like going from Philly to NY, than NY to LA, for instance. People forget that rail is basically infeasible for long enough distance travel, as opposed to options like flying.

In general, US doesn't use rail because of these distances, the necessity to have a rail going straight from your origin to your destination ... there's no hub, no spokes, no changing trains really. If you aren't in a city with a major rail station going to another city with a major rail station that's pretty close by, going from NY to Seattle, for example would be a multiple day route... Or a 6 hour flight that could be $75... $300 to get one right now. That's not something rail can compete with.
 
2021-04-15 3:48:06 AM  

skinink: 50% of the time, studies like this are 100% correct.


It's 60 percent of the time... Get your "facts" straight.
 
2021-04-15 3:52:22 AM  

akya: Flying always seemed extremely risky to me during the pandemic, no matter what the news reported.

Flying is essentially  a series of long term close encounters indoors with large numbers of strangers.  You wait in a crowded check in line, then a crowded TSA line, then you wait at a crowded gate, then you sit in a crowded airplane for hours, then you crowd your way out of the plane, many times onto a crowded tram to the baggage claim, then onto a crowded shuttle, or whatever else your choice for ground transportation.

It's like a series of unavoidable risks.  Especially considering those strangers are likely people that are also not taking Covid-19 very seriously.


Oof. I've had to do a few (okay four both ways) trips between hilo and honolulu during this shiat. I hated every minute of it. Outbound to hilo I needed to test, and never positive. Coming to Oahu, no test required. Anyhow, I've already had the first pfizer shot, waiting on the second, and travel is done.
 
2021-04-15 3:54:38 AM  

anfrind: gameshowhost: Naido: It's hilarious that we've been shaming people for going to the beach and, meanwhile, thousands of people are getting on planes every day.

because beach leisure is for the poors and airline leisure isn't.

I don't know exactly how it breaks down, but not all air travel during the pandemic was for leisure.


No, but I can assure you that with the walmart prices airlines were offering, we got walmart tourists.
 
2021-04-15 3:56:34 AM  

anfrind: gameshowhost: anfrind: gameshowhost: Naido: It's hilarious that we've been shaming people for going to the beach and, meanwhile, thousands of people are getting on planes every day.

because beach leisure is for the poors and airline leisure isn't.

I don't know exactly how it breaks down, but not all air travel during the pandemic was for leisure.

cool non sequitur

You're not using that phrase correctly.


That was out of sequence.
 
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