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(Some Deadhead)   Wanna check out a working 1/6 model replica of the Grateful Dead's Wall of Sound?   (fretboardjournal.com) divider line
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2021-04-14 1:34:46 PM  
Nope
 
2021-04-14 1:55:30 PM  
LOL, that is pretty sweet. Hopefully he gets sponsored to build the 1/1 he wants.
 
2021-04-14 1:56:08 PM  
Yeah, this is pretty damn cool.  The WOS revolutionized live concert sound.  It proved to be too much for the band, however, and they abandoned it after just one year.  it took too long to set up and too much $$$ to operate, but those that did hear it say it was incredible.  It wasn't loud per se, but since it had over 600 speakers, the purity / clarity of the sound was astonishing. they had one of the first sophisticated crossover systems, instead of the industry standard at the time of just BLASTING THE shiat OUT OF THE PA SPEAKERS, which resulted in muddy/distorted sounds.  the WOS changed all of that and other bands started pursuing their own advanced live concert systems.

one drawback was that since there were so many speakers, they found early on that feedback into the vocal mikes was a problem.  so to counter that, they put two mikes on each mic stand, but out of phase, so that it would effectively cancel feedback. problem, though, was putting them out of phase also lost a little of the vocal, and there's a tinniness / sibilance to the vocals.  You can always recognize a WOS show by that odd vocal sound.

and the GD tell a funny story of the first time they went live with it.  They had the cutting edge industry standard tweeters, and like, 200 of them at that, and when they started playing, BAM! all the tweeters got fried.  they troubleshot the rig afterwards adn the story goes, a $1.99 fuse blew.....which destroyed $200,000 of tweeters. but they kept on using it.
 
2021-04-14 2:12:19 PM  

rickythepenguin: it took too long to set up and too much $$$ to operate


forgot to say, bands with the huge lighting/stage setup - the various U2s, Rolling STones, Taylor Swifts, etc., they'll usually have two stage setups.  they'll have one for the show in, say, Vegas, and send the other setup to LA, to minimize setup time.  they'll always be leapfrogging to the next city.  the Dead didn't have that so it added a huge expense, in terms of crew and just the sheer logistics of driving from city to city.  extra mouths to feed and extra motel rooms and so on.  a great idea but in true Grateful Dead fashion, not exactly well thought out.
 
2021-04-14 8:18:26 PM  

rickythepenguin: rickythepenguin: it took too long to set up and too much $$$ to operate

forgot to say, bands with the huge lighting/stage setup - the various U2s, Rolling STones, Taylor Swifts, etc., they'll usually have two stage setups.  they'll have one for the show in, say, Vegas, and send the other setup to LA, to minimize setup time.  they'll always be leapfrogging to the next city.  the Dead didn't have that so it added a huge expense, in terms of crew and just the sheer logistics of driving from city to city.  extra mouths to feed and extra motel rooms and so on.  a great idea but in true Grateful Dead fashion, not exactly well thought out.


i worked on the local crew for the stones voodoo lounge tour when they came here, and they had 3 leapfrogging stages if i recall correctly. they only had one sound system, though.
 
2021-04-15 11:59:23 AM  
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stinkyboss: i worked on the local crew for the stones voodoo lounge tour when they came here, and they had 3 leapfrogging stages if i recall correctly. they only had one sound system, though.



wow, that's cool. I saw that show at Sun Devil Stadium. somehow a fire started behind the stage, during the show, on the wooden plank seats. We thought it was part of the show at first. The band as I recall never stopped playing and a small crew could be seen putting the fire out.

U2's "Claw" stage (from 2009's "360" tour), one of them was acquired by Utah and erected in a park. Massive stage that they used in mainly football (both NFL and european soccer) stadiums, maybe a baseball park or two. Awesome show. as I recall U2 had two stages thay, to our little discussion, would leapfrog from city to city.
 
2021-04-16 12:17:43 AM  

rickythepenguin: Yeah, this is pretty damn cool.  The WOS revolutionized live concert sound.  It proved to be too much for the band, however, and they abandoned it after just one year.  it took too long to set up and too much $$$ to operate, but those that did hear it say it was incredible.  It wasn't loud per se, but since it had over 600 speakers, the purity / clarity of the sound was astonishing. they had one of the first sophisticated crossover systems, instead of the industry standard at the time of just BLASTING THE shiat OUT OF THE PA SPEAKERS, which resulted in muddy/distorted sounds.  the WOS changed all of that and other bands started pursuing their own advanced live concert systems.

one drawback was that since there were so many speakers, they found early on that feedback into the vocal mikes was a problem.  so to counter that, they put two mikes on each mic stand, but out of phase, so that it would effectively cancel feedback. problem, though, was putting them out of phase also lost a little of the vocal, and there's a tinniness / sibilance to the vocals.  You can always recognize a WOS show by that odd vocal sound.

and the GD tell a funny story of the first time they went live with it.  They had the cutting edge industry standard tweeters, and like, 200 of them at that, and when they started playing, BAM! all the tweeters got fried.  they troubleshot the rig afterwards adn the story goes, a $1.99 fuse blew.....which destroyed $200,000 of tweeters. but they kept on using it.


Yeah I was going to bring up that thin vocal sound they came from those mics.

Either way, Owlsley Stanley was a revolutionary.
 
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