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2021-04-14 10:45:35 AM  
"I can't make things here and bring over all the components from the Far East here, assemble them here and then send them back to the Far East. That just doesn't work."

Most businesses operated that way just fine until they discovered megacheap Asian labor.
 
2021-04-14 11:53:16 AM  
It really makes sense that Russia meddled with the Brexit vote just like they did with our 2016 Elections.

The result is the same:  Instability.
 
2021-04-14 11:58:30 AM  
Dyson sucks harder than his bagless vacuum cleaners.
 
2021-04-14 12:23:04 PM  
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Apparently it functions as a bullsh*t multiplier too.
 
2021-04-14 12:27:37 PM  
He said that the invention of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine showed that the UK had "an independence of spirit" that was now able to shine through.

AstraZeneca is a UK-Swedish company.

"We had to develop our own... a world record-beating vaccine produced in record time, and that's because we produced it."


Didn't Pfizer beat them to the market?
 
2021-04-14 12:27:55 PM  
But 350 million a week for NHS!  This week, everyone is getting new kidneys whether they need them or not!
 
2021-04-14 12:29:30 PM  
we can make trade agreements with other countries outside Europe

That's what was promised, but thus far hasn't been delivered. These clowns sure spend a lot of time talking about how much better things can be without a big government but never seem to have a plan once they've caught up to the truck.
 
2021-04-14 12:30:32 PM  
I don't get Dyson. It's more of a cult than Apple and their products are overpriced plastic junk.
 
2021-04-14 12:33:47 PM  
Dyson moves thousands of Miles away?
 
2021-04-14 12:35:19 PM  
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"My Android phone also gets two days battery life despite being 4 years old and I never changed the battery and my MS Surface has enough power to run the Stock Exchange."
 
2021-04-14 12:37:33 PM  
Let's ask Northern Ireland how this Brexit thing is working out.
 
2021-04-14 12:37:41 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: He said that the invention of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine showed that the UK had "an independence of spirit" that was now able to shine through.

AstraZeneca is a UK-Swedish company.

"We had to develop our own... a world record-beating vaccine produced in record time, and that's because we produced it."

Didn't Pfizer beat them to the market?


They did. And the Biontech vaccine as it is called in Europe was developed by a German couple who are both children of Turkish immigrants who could study because German universities don't charge ridiculous fees.
 
2021-04-14 12:38:25 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: He said that the invention of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine showed that the UK had "an independence of spirit" that was now able to shine through.

AstraZeneca is a UK-Swedish company.

"We had to develop our own... a world record-beating vaccine produced in record time, and that's because we produced it."

Didn't Pfizer beat them to the market?



*And* the AZ vaccine has been blacklisted in many countries.

English innovation: Slightly worse than average.  Lucas electrics were the pinnacle.

/"shoddy" doesn't begin to describe English engineering and quality
 
2021-04-14 12:42:04 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: He said that the invention of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine showed that the UK had "an independence of spirit" that was now able to shine through.

AstraZeneca is a UK-Swedish company.


The actual vaccine was developed by Oxford. They had actually agreed a deal with US company Merck to manufacture it but with Trump in office UK health minister was worried he'd block supply to the UK and asked for guarantees. Not getting them he vetoed the deal and got Oxford to deal with AZ. The vaccine was developed in the UK. AZ just manufacture it.
 
2021-04-14 12:43:48 PM  

theflatline: [img-9gag-fun.9cache.com image 460x437]

"My Android phone also gets two days battery life despite being 4 years old and I never changed the battery and my MS Surface has enough power to run the Stock Exchange."


My M8 gets two days battery life and is six years old now.
 
2021-04-14 12:46:56 PM  

UltimaCS: we can make trade agreements with other countries outside Europe

That's what was promised, but thus far hasn't been delivered. These clowns sure spend a lot of time talking about how much better things can be without a big government but never seem to have a plan once they've caught up to the truck.


What? We've signed lots of deals. Canada, Japan, Singapore, South Korea and a bunch of others. We're negotiating about joining TPP. Farkers kept on telling me these deals take years to negotiate, but you're complaining we haven't signed more deals in four months?

Maybe you should ask the EU why it hasn't got a free trade deal with the USA after fifty years.
 
2021-04-14 12:49:04 PM  
This idiot is such a hypocrite. He promoted Brexit and when it in fact happened he moved his HQ to Singapore because he knew it would be easier to access the EU market from there.

He's also complaining that the EU limits the watt of his devices, but it just needs clever engineering to reduce the energy needed to do the same job. When you do that with every electronic device all across Europe, just calculate how much energy and power plants you save.

And the funniest thing is that he brags the vaccine couldn't have been developed when within the EU. The problem here is that the UK did just that as they only left at the end of 2020.

And the reason they started earlier with vaccination than the EU was that they didn't do due diligence but rather decided to rush through with the certification process. Again, they did that while still being subject to everything EU. Every other EU country could have chosen to play Russian roulette with their citizens' health, yet only the UK did so.

"World-beating" - When you hear these words, prepare to hear a lie!
 
2021-04-14 12:49:36 PM  
Translations

We can make deals with other nations. (We are praying the Yanks save our skins.)

We can import workers from around the world. (More Chinese, South Asian, and African minimum wage slaves or as they call them in Europe, Turkish Guest Workers.)
 
2021-04-14 12:51:59 PM  
I don't get the Dyson hate. I got my DC07 vaccum as a wedding gift 14 years ago and it still works fine, despite two dogs, two kids, and several tumbles down the stairs. I did have to replace a part but it was cheap and easy (new hose).

Is their new stuff crap?
 
2021-04-14 12:55:04 PM  

brantgoose: We can make deals with other nations. (We are praying the Yanks save our skins.)


Their choices for making a US deal.

Joe Biden - who is STRONGLY pro-Ireland and angry about the threat to the Good Friday Agreement.

Some Republican - who will bend the UK over and pull their livers out of their assholes, THEN demand a discount because the UK doesn't have a liver anymore.

The Biden administration's position is actually very simple. "We're dealing with important things right now, like a trade agreement with the EU. After we get all the important things done, we'll discuss what you'll give up for easier access to the US Economy."

But the important thing is to lie to Brexit supporters in the hopes that they will continue to believe they're not being farked over. Some of them (like the Unionists in Northern Ireland and the fishermen) understand that they've been farked over, but most of the Express reading mouth breathers still think the UK is winning, and probably will continue to think so long after they're suffering from malnutrition.
 
2021-04-14 12:55:19 PM  

edmo: "I can't make things here and bring over all the components from the Far East here, assemble them here and then send them back to the Far East. That just doesn't work."

Most businesses operated that way just fine until they discovered megacheap Asian labor.


And what he did was move his global headquarters to Singapore. As if you can't open a factory in another country without having your global headquarters and tax base there.
 
2021-04-14 12:55:49 PM  

Sir Paul: I don't get the Dyson hate. I got my DC07 vaccum as a wedding gift 14 years ago and it still works fine, despite two dogs, two kids, and several tumbles down the stairs. I did have to replace a part but it was cheap and easy (new hose).

Is their new stuff crap?


Their new stuff is crap. Their old stuff was good.

And, of course, it's the guy saying "Brexit is a win for me" after moving his company out of the UK.
 
2021-04-14 12:57:06 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: HotWingConspiracy: He said that the invention of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine showed that the UK had "an independence of spirit" that was now able to shine through.

AstraZeneca is a UK-Swedish company.

The actual vaccine was developed by Oxford. They had actually agreed a deal with US company Merck to manufacture it but with Trump in office UK health minister was worried he'd block supply to the UK and asked for guarantees. Not getting them he vetoed the deal and got Oxford to deal with AZ. The vaccine was developed in the UK. AZ just manufacture it.


Trump also deported a major scientist who then went to work for Oxford on the vaccine development.  The scientist had Chinese ancestors, which was all Trump needed.  Ivanka replaced him, because of Brexit.

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Here she is adding a nano dose of compassion to Trump's annual dose of empathy.
 
2021-04-14 1:00:12 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: But 350 million a week for NHS!  This week, everyone is getting new kidneys whether they need them or not!


It's always handy to have a set of spare in the fridge
 
2021-04-14 1:05:59 PM  

I'm no expert but...: Harry Freakstorm: But 350 million a week for NHS!  This week, everyone is getting new kidneys whether they need them or not!

It's always handy to have a set of spare in the fridge


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2021-04-14 1:06:34 PM  

Paddy: This idiot is such a hypocrite. He promoted Brexit and when it in fact happened he moved his HQ to Singapore because he knew it would be easier to access the EU market from there.

He's also complaining that the EU limits the watt of his devices, but it just needs clever engineering to reduce the energy needed to do the same job. When you do that with every electronic device all across Europe, just calculate how much energy and power plants you save.

And the funniest thing is that he brags the vaccine couldn't have been developed when within the EU. The problem here is that the UK did just that as they only left at the end of 2020.

And the reason they started earlier with vaccination than the EU was that they didn't do due diligence but rather decided to rush through with the certification process. Again, they did that while still being subject to everything EU. Every other EU country could have chosen to play Russian roulette with their citizens' health, yet only the UK did so.

"World-beating" - When you hear these words, prepare to hear a lie!


Go on, do the J&J vaccine and the US next!!!
 
2021-04-14 1:12:02 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: UltimaCS: we can make trade agreements with other countries outside Europe

That's what was promised, but thus far hasn't been delivered. These clowns sure spend a lot of time talking about how much better things can be without a big government but never seem to have a plan once they've caught up to the truck.

What? We've signed lots of deals. Canada, Japan, Singapore, South Korea and a bunch of others. We're negotiating about joining TPP. Farkers kept on telling me these deals take years to negotiate, but you're complaining we haven't signed more deals in four months?

Maybe you should ask the EU why it hasn't got a free trade deal with the USA after fifty years.


Brexit has always just gotten started, every couple of years.
 
2021-04-14 1:14:17 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: HotWingConspiracy: He said that the invention of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine showed that the UK had "an independence of spirit" that was now able to shine through.

AstraZeneca is a UK-Swedish company.

The actual vaccine was developed by Oxford. They had actually agreed a deal with US company Merck to manufacture it but with Trump in office UK health minister was worried he'd block supply to the UK and asked for guarantees. Not getting them he vetoed the deal and got Oxford to deal with AZ. The vaccine was developed in the UK. AZ just manufacture it.


You forget the money supplied to develop it came from GASP venture capitalist groups ,with the  lion share from two American ones, Sequoia and Google Ventures.

Also, Oxfort worked with Advent Sri, an Italian group to develop the first batch.

US companies funded the clinical trials, wait for it, run by, Astro Zeneca(so they didn't just manufacture it).

The UK supplied 93 million dollars in funding while the USA supplied 1.2 billion in funding.


Hmmm, but tell me again how the UK magically pooped out this vaccine all by itself...
 
2021-04-14 1:20:20 PM  
Funny thing:

Business Leaders Trash Brexit "Teething Problems" Excuse!
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Seems many are complaining
 
2021-04-14 1:22:01 PM  
Funny how all the big rich Brexiteers have hustled their assets out of the UK in the last couple years.
Maybe they know something that the average denizen of Appalachia in the Atlantic doesn't.
Probably better to stand aside and let them degenerate back into the dirty savages with their buns painted blue bounding around in the bogs they always really were.
You can't live off robbing the rest of the world forever.
 
2021-04-14 1:27:34 PM  
Ah, 'increasing innovation'. That's the new explanation for why we can't have nice things. We can't possibly raise corporate taxes or socialize health insurance int he U.S.! We'd stifle all the innovation!

AKA "Why Democrats shouldn't do anything to inconvenience rich assholes." by Some Rich Asshole.
 
2021-04-14 1:36:06 PM  

inglixthemad: Funny thing:

[YouTube video: Business Leaders Trash Brexit "Teething Problems" Excuse!]

Seems many are complaining


A lot of 'business leaders' were also super keen for Brexit. Money, money, money...
 
2021-04-14 1:45:40 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: brantgoose: We can make deals with other nations. (We are praying the Yanks save our skins.)

Their choices for making a US deal.

Joe Biden - who is STRONGLY pro-Ireland and angry about the threat to the Good Friday Agreement.

Some Republican - who will bend the UK over and pull their livers out of their assholes, THEN demand a discount because the UK doesn't have a liver anymore.

The Biden administration's position is actually very simple. "We're dealing with important things right now, like a trade agreement with the EU. After we get all the important things done, we'll discuss what you'll give up for easier access to the US Economy."

But the important thing is to lie to Brexit supporters in the hopes that they will continue to believe they're not being farked over. Some of them (like the Unionists in Northern Ireland and the fishermen) understand that they've been farked over, but most of the Express reading mouth breathers still think the UK is winning, and probably will continue to think so long after they're suffering from malnutrition.


I was in Northern Ireland a few years ago and they credited Good Friday with everything that's gone well on both sides since then. The new holy trinity is the Father, the Son, and George Mitchell. Of course the person I was talking to knew he was talking to an American. But I can see why touching the Good Friday agreement is so dangerous.
 
2021-04-14 1:54:38 PM  
Brexit has given the U.K. back its independence, while tightening it's grip on Northern Ireland.
 
2021-04-14 2:08:23 PM  

UltimaCS: Carter Pewterschmidt: UltimaCS: we can make trade agreements with other countries outside Europe

That's what was promised, but thus far hasn't been delivered. These clowns sure spend a lot of time talking about how much better things can be without a big government but never seem to have a plan once they've caught up to the truck.

What? We've signed lots of deals. Canada, Japan, Singapore, South Korea and a bunch of others. We're negotiating about joining TPP. Farkers kept on telling me these deals take years to negotiate, but you're complaining we haven't signed more deals in four months?

Maybe you should ask the EU why it hasn't got a free trade deal with the USA after fifty years.

Brexit has always just gotten started, every couple of years.


And once again he's ignoring that those "deals" are basically handshake agreements to extend the pre-existing EU trade deals.  The countries can drop out tommorow and demand new terms.  Also the Japan deal is a joke.  Boris dropped a significant import tarrif just to wave a shiny object.
 
2021-04-14 2:20:00 PM  

ArkPanda: I was in Northern Ireland a few years ago and they credited Good Friday with everything that's gone well on both sides since then. The new holy trinity is the Father, the Son, and George Mitchell.


The biggest win was getting both sides to agree that BOTH sides would have to agree to reunification and getting that written into the respective (UK and Irish) constitutions. That broke the big arguments both sides were using to further the conflict. Was there now a peaceful path to reunification? YES. Could Ireland force reunification on the North? NO.

Mitchell's inspiration was to stop thinking of the Troubles as simple terrorism and instead thought of it as a moderately hot Civil War.

Add in the happy accident of both the UK and Ireland ending up in the EU/EU common market, the border disappeared. People got used to, well, the border being a line drawn somewhere for some reason, but having almost no effect on daily life. Really, the only difference you had was certain shops took pounds and others took euros.

More importantly? Almost everybody liked this. The thing that kept the Troubles away was simple. Things were just better now. Even staunch IRA and UDF members weren't willing to kick things off because too many of their neighbors would happily rat them out because why the fark would you go back to the Troubles?

It worked really well right up until the farking Tories started drawing lines again.

\ Put the Tories in a box
\\ Put the box into a car
\\\ Fire the car into the sky
\\\\ right through the sun.
 
2021-04-14 2:40:05 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: UltimaCS: we can make trade agreements with other countries outside Europe

That's what was promised, but thus far hasn't been delivered. These clowns sure spend a lot of time talking about how much better things can be without a big government but never seem to have a plan once they've caught up to the truck.

What? We've signed lots of deals. Canada, Japan, Singapore, South Korea and a bunch of others. We're negotiating about joining TPP. Farkers kept on telling me these deals take years to negotiate, but you're complaining we haven't signed more deals in four months?

Maybe you should ask the EU why it hasn't got a free trade deal with the USA after fifty years.


Ah, yes, the continuation agreements. You keep trying to have it both ways Peter, you really can't. The Japan deal is the only one that I understand to be an original deal... and the UK gets to sell the market cap that the EU doesn't reach.

/how goes the US trade deal?
//you may yet get a hard Brexit
///slashies
 
2021-04-14 2:41:07 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: UltimaCS: we can make trade agreements with other countries outside Europe

That's what was promised, but thus far hasn't been delivered. These clowns sure spend a lot of time talking about how much better things can be without a big government but never seem to have a plan once they've caught up to the truck.

What? We've signed lots of deals. Canada, Japan, Singapore, South Korea and a bunch of others. We're negotiating about joining TPP. Farkers kept on telling me these deals take years to negotiate, but you're complaining we haven't signed more deals in four months?

Maybe you should ask the EU why it hasn't got a free trade deal with the USA after fifty years.


The United States and the EU are nearly equal sized markets and are competitors. In many sectors they are near perfect competitors-witness the Airbus-Boeing standoff playing out in real time-meaning there are fewer comparative advantages available to make concessions worthwhile.
This is why a free trade agreement is largely out of reach. Mutual self interest.
The UK is a much smaller competitor in comparison to both, so America feels confident that any free trade agreement with the UK will give them more impact in the UK marketplace than Britain can gain in the US.
Macroeconomics in simple terms, we do a deal, America gets to pound our market for profit far harder than we can theirs. Of course they are more interested.
 
2021-04-14 2:42:50 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: ArkPanda: I was in Northern Ireland a few years ago and they credited Good Friday with everything that's gone well on both sides since then. The new holy trinity is the Father, the Son, and George Mitchell.

The biggest win was getting both sides to agree that BOTH sides would have to agree to reunification and getting that written into the respective (UK and Irish) constitutions. That broke the big arguments both sides were using to further the conflict. Was there now a peaceful path to reunification? YES. Could Ireland force reunification on the North? NO.

Mitchell's inspiration was to stop thinking of the Troubles as simple terrorism and instead thought of it as a moderately hot Civil War.

Add in the happy accident of both the UK and Ireland ending up in the EU/EU common market, the border disappeared. People got used to, well, the border being a line drawn somewhere for some reason, but having almost no effect on daily life. Really, the only difference you had was certain shops took pounds and others took euros.

More importantly? Almost everybody liked this. The thing that kept the Troubles away was simple. Things were just better now. Even staunch IRA and UDF members weren't willing to kick things off because too many of their neighbors would happily rat them out because why the fark would you go back to the Troubles?

It worked really well right up until the farking Tories started drawing lines again.

\ Put the Tories in a box
\\ Put the box into a car
\\\ Fire the car into the sky
\\\\ right through the sun.


You have to give it to the British that they are often trying to be clever yet leave a mess behind that everybody suffers from many decades later. The middle East conflict goes down to their intervention, too, as I see it. There are probably more political moves by them à la "divide and conquer" that in the long run turned out extremely bad. Brexit is just the latest example and it's just 15 weeks old in its full glory.
 
2021-04-14 2:46:09 PM  
Brexit is even more insane than electing Trump. It's sad to read about all of these companies that were barely profitable, who depended on exporting goods quickly or were part of Just-In-Time supply chains just get hammered by shopping delays and filling out 47 forms per export shipment.

And it's now locked in, because non-UK companies and customers are just finding replacements. They're also turning "ha ha we're doing better at vaccinations than the EU" into "ha ha we're doing better at vaccinations than the EU and by the way we hate the EU for this and want to destroy it!"
 
2021-04-14 3:15:09 PM  

mofa: Brexit is even more insane than electing Trump. It's sad to read about all of these companies that were barely profitable, who depended on exporting goods quickly or were part of Just-In-Time supply chains just get hammered by shopping delays and filling out 47 forms per export shipment.

And it's now locked in, because non-UK companies and customers are just finding replacements. They're also turning "ha ha we're doing better at vaccinations than the EU" into "ha ha we're doing better at vaccinations than the EU and by the way we hate the EU for this and want to destroy it!"


Yes Minister - Why Britain Joined the European Union
Youtube 37iHSwA1SwE
 
2021-04-14 3:29:27 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: UltimaCS: we can make trade agreements with other countries outside Europe

That's what was promised, but thus far hasn't been delivered. These clowns sure spend a lot of time talking about how much better things can be without a big government but never seem to have a plan once they've caught up to the truck.

What? We've signed lots of deals. Canada, Japan, Singapore, South Korea and a bunch of others. We're negotiating about joining TPP. Farkers kept on telling me these deals take years to negotiate, but you're complaining we haven't signed more deals in four months?

Maybe you should ask the EU why it hasn't got a free trade deal with the USA after fifty years.


Aren't all those deals just continuation deals?
 
2021-04-14 3:42:32 PM  

batlock666: Carter Pewterschmidt: UltimaCS: we can make trade agreements with other countries outside Europe

That's what was promised, but thus far hasn't been delivered. These clowns sure spend a lot of time talking about how much better things can be without a big government but never seem to have a plan once they've caught up to the truck.

What? We've signed lots of deals. Canada, Japan, Singapore, South Korea and a bunch of others. We're negotiating about joining TPP. Farkers kept on telling me these deals take years to negotiate, but you're complaining we haven't signed more deals in four months?

Maybe you should ask the EU why it hasn't got a free trade deal with the USA after fifty years.

Aren't all those deals just continuation deals?


Not all but most of them.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-4721384​2
 
2021-04-14 3:46:47 PM  
Oh come on people, you're all forgetting the trade deal with Liechtenstein, it's going to be life-altering.
 
2021-04-14 3:56:15 PM  

Paddy: HotWingConspiracy: He said that the invention of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine showed that the UK had "an independence of spirit" that was now able to shine through.

AstraZeneca is a UK-Swedish company.

"We had to develop our own... a world record-beating vaccine produced in record time, and that's because we produced it."

Didn't Pfizer beat them to the market?

They did. And the Biontech vaccine as it is called in Europe was developed by a German couple who are both children of Turkish immigrants who could study because German universities don't charge ridiculous fees.


While true, that isn't as accurate as could be. One half of the couple was also a Turkish immigrant who came to Germany as a child with his parents. I only point that out because it pokes anti-immigrant people even more in the eye. They can't just say that being raised in country X is why the person grew up to do such a great thing.
 
2021-04-14 3:58:14 PM  
Now waiting for a certain person to claim I am his own alt because I answered a question on his behalf.

/Don't laugh.
//That was his logic last time someone did the same for me.
///While I was asleep after night shift.
 
2021-04-14 5:04:43 PM  

dsmith42: Paddy: HotWingConspiracy: He said that the invention of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine showed that the UK had "an independence of spirit" that was now able to shine through.

AstraZeneca is a UK-Swedish company.

"We had to develop our own... a world record-beating vaccine produced in record time, and that's because we produced it."

Didn't Pfizer beat them to the market?

They did. And the Biontech vaccine as it is called in Europe was developed by a German couple who are both children of Turkish immigrants who could study because German universities don't charge ridiculous fees.

While true, that isn't as accurate as could be. One half of the couple was also a Turkish immigrant who came to Germany as a child with his parents. I only point that out because it pokes anti-immigrant people even more in the eye. They can't just say that being raised in country X is why the person grew up to do such a great thing.


Thank you. Even better.
 
2021-04-14 6:07:24 PM  

Sir Paul: I don't get the Dyson hate.


I can only speak for myself, but he's always annoyed me a bit because I always felt the accolades he received exceeded the accomplishments.  I mean, he has made some good vacuums, and the cyclonic separation approach is certainly better than a normal filter bag -- but he just nicked that idea and miniaturized it.  And he's made some clever-ish other things, but I don't know.  I'm easily annoyed by technological things that get over-hyped (see Segway).  There's so much good stuff that deserves the world's attention, why are we all talking about and celebrating this thing?  Or maybe I'm just jealous of his success, who knows.
 
2021-04-14 6:17:16 PM  

Sir Paul: I don't get the Dyson hate. I got my DC07 vaccum as a wedding gift 14 years ago and it still works fine, despite two dogs, two kids, and several tumbles down the stairs. I did have to replace a part but it was cheap and easy (new hose).

Is their new stuff crap?


I'm glad you've done well with yours. Regrettably, mine was a lump of plastic tat that practically had "SHOULD'A BOUGHT A HENRY" emblazoned on every rickety part.
 
2021-04-14 7:04:19 PM  

quinxy: Sir Paul: I don't get the Dyson hate.

I can only speak for myself, but he's always annoyed me a bit because I always felt the accolades he received exceeded the accomplishments.  I mean, he has made some good vacuums, and the cyclonic separation approach is certainly better than a normal filter bag -- but he just nicked that idea and miniaturized it.  And he's made some clever-ish other things, but I don't know.  I'm easily annoyed by technological things that get over-hyped (see Segway).  There's so much good stuff that deserves the world's attention, why are we all talking about and celebrating this thing?  Or maybe I'm just jealous of his success, who knows.



He neither invented cyclonic separation, nor was the first to use it in a vacuum.  I have a cyclonic vacuum in my garage that is over 50 years old.

Dyson vacuums are made from crap materials, assembled poorly, and have a lower vacuum potential as measured in inches of mercury than any other major brand (they all have bypass valves in case of blockage that pops off far too easily).

The motor and fan design is fantastic, and the ball caster is really nifty.  Those are the extent of the value to a Dyson.  I say that as an owner of one for more than a decade. (it's now my work-area vac until it dies - replaced it with a Miele bagless, which is fantastic)  Also, the "has no filters to clog" is a lie.  There's an easily-clogged dust sock at the top of the cyclone manifold that must be cleaned regularly if you have actual dirt to pull up.

SIR James Dyson is a huckster whose products are massively-overpriced garbage for suburbanites.
 
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