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(Tampa Bay Times)   Ron DeSantis supports stricter signature-matching rules for Florida absentee ballots. But would his own evolving signature pass scrutiny?   (tampabay.com) divider line
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2021-04-14 11:32:08 AM  
First of all, Ron DeSantis is a colossal, moronic asshole. Second, my signature never looks exactly the same. And finally, voter fraud is bullshiat.
 
WGJ [TotalFark]
2021-04-14 11:57:36 AM  
It would be interesting to see how they determine which signatures don't match. Would they be grouped by neighborhoods?
 
2021-04-14 1:34:57 PM  

WGJ: It would be interesting to see how they determine which signatures don't match. Would they be grouped by neighborhoods?


It would all be based on someone's opinion whether or not the signatures match. If a certain person of a certain political affiliation was in a certain neighborhood, they could throw out whatever votes they want.
 
2021-04-14 1:50:11 PM  

WGJ: how they determine which signatures don't match. Would they be grouped by neighborhoods?


I've been voting in my district for over 20 years. My current signature has devolved to look very little like my signature of 2000. But I'm white and live in NJ so I'm not too worried.

On the other hand, my county is pretty good for cleaning up the rolls. My late wife's signature was still in the books for the first election after she passed a few months later. It was gone from elections after that.
 
2021-04-14 2:05:50 PM  
I never write my signature the same way twice, if I lived in florida then I wouldn't be allowed to vote there
 
2021-04-14 2:06:36 PM  
While I agree that signature matching is a foolproof science, to really make sure these votes are legitimate we need to randomly select voters for polygraph and phrenology exams.
 
2021-04-14 2:06:48 PM  
All they're trying to do is have more reasons to reject the votes they do not want.
 
2021-04-14 2:07:17 PM  
I'm sure there will be a ton of overnight forensic handwriting experts that pop up in county elections offices on democratic ballots.
 
2021-04-14 2:08:09 PM  
How much you want to bet all the Tyrones and LaTonyas end up in the extra-scrutiny bin?
 
2021-04-14 2:11:11 PM  
So glad I left that sh*thole state. DeSatan is giant turd burglar.  I think the best part of him ran down the crack of his momma's ass and ended up a brown stain on the mattress.
 
2021-04-14 2:11:14 PM  
Under Florida law, if a mail-in ballot is rejected, the voter has an opportunity to fix it at their local elections office, a process called a "cure." When DeSantis attempted to cure his 2016 ballot, it was rejected as well, LX reported.

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Daniel Smith, a political scientist at the University of Florida, studies the application of voter signature matching laws. His research has shown counties often apply signature rules unevenly, and students and minorities are more likely to have their ballots rejected because of a mismatch.


Why is Florida? I mean, really.
 
2021-04-14 2:12:36 PM  
I want these anti-Democracy Republicans to explain why stricter voting laws are needed, and explain how one would actually commit voter fraud under the current system.

When I go to vote, I sign my name in a book, on a line with my address next to it. If someone wanted to commit fraud, they would have to sign their name on someone else's line. If I went in to vote, and my name was already signed, I would find out.

Have you ever heard of a single case of someone showing up to vote, and someone had already signed in as them? NO, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T F***ING HAPPEN!
 
2021-04-14 2:12:46 PM  
Georgia tried to get away from signature matching and just ask for ID instead but that's racist.
 
2021-04-14 2:14:54 PM  
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2021-04-14 2:15:02 PM  
Each of those signatures is by a different personality.  The condition that contributes to that is a defect in a nerve bundle which connects the anus, penis, and brain.  The victim thoughts are controled in a random fashion by these though centers, although the anus usually wins.  The condition is agrivated by high humidity and orange pollen.
 
2021-04-14 2:15:39 PM  

RTOGUY: Georgia tried to get away from signature matching and just ask for ID instead but that's racist.


It is if the only problem you're trying to address is not voter fraud (because there is none) but the fact that black people showed up and voted for the other guy. Sorry if that chaps your anus.
 
2021-04-14 2:16:13 PM  
It's cool, we're gonna increase funding and hire 15 million forensic handwriting experts for each election.


/Governor's brother in law runs Forensic University of Comparative Cursive Understanding
 
2021-04-14 2:16:51 PM  
Isn't this method of verification already known to be really ineffective? It seems like such laws shouldn't even be legal. But, you know, racism.
 
2021-04-14 2:18:09 PM  

RTOGUY: Georgia tried to get away from signature matching and just ask for ID instead but that's racist.


1) Black people had their birth certificates farked with in the 80s
2) DMVs in urban areas are notoriously crowded and underfunded
3) He signed it under a damn picture of a plantation
4) Zero evidence has been found to support voter fraud being stopped with IDs, much less wide spread voter fraud
5) Several voter fraud attempts have occurred... from Republicans
6) They've made it clear that the point is to push a lie about massive voter fraud to destabilize people's faith in the voting system

So yes, it is racist.
 
2021-04-14 2:18:35 PM  

indylaw: RTOGUY: Georgia tried to get away from signature matching and just ask for ID instead but that's racist.

It is if the only problem you're trying to address is not voter fraud (because there is none) but the fact that black people showed up and voted for the other guy. Sorry if that chaps your anus.


There's that old argument that black people don't drive or know how to use the internet so they don't have ID or know how to get one.
 
2021-04-14 2:20:26 PM  
I had to sign so many forms when I enlisted in the military, my first signature of the day had little resemblance to my last. I even tried to keep it the same.
 
2021-04-14 2:21:23 PM  

RTOGUY: Georgia tried to get away from signature matching and just ask for ID instead but that's racist.


There are legitimate voter ID systems - Canada, for example has one.
No Republican has suggested or endorsed that we institute a legitimate voter ID system in this country.
They only want to make third party IDs mandatory, that can be made scarce and difficult for minorities or young people to get.
It's just Jim Crow in a Trump hat.
 
2021-04-14 2:21:37 PM  
Great question! The Florida Legislature has accounted for this signature inconsistency phenomenon with the White Man Signature Proviso (WMSP). The WMSP allows for signature inconsistency if and only if... Yeah, you got it, the voter is a white man. This, along with the White Woman Signature Proviso (WWSP), should allow for Total Voter Security For White People (TVSFWP). The Provisos only apply to male voters over 50 and female voters over 60. No reason for this, other than enhancing the security of Florida elections for all. Gender specificity in these provisos is intentional, again solely for the purpose of enhancing elections security.
 
2021-04-14 2:21:43 PM  
I will give the racist assholes this: they are industrious farkers when it comes to creating new(ish) ways to be racist assholes. Apparently it's the only thing they really put maximum effort into.
 
2021-04-14 2:22:37 PM  
Just make being black illegal & call it a job done. It's what they want to do. Just rip the damn bandaid off already.
 
2021-04-14 2:23:15 PM  

RTOGUY: indylaw: RTOGUY: Georgia tried to get away from signature matching and just ask for ID instead but that's racist.

It is if the only problem you're trying to address is not voter fraud (because there is none) but the fact that black people showed up and voted for the other guy. Sorry if that chaps your anus.

There's that old argument that black people don't drive or know how to use the internet so they don't have ID or know how to get one.


I and all other progressives would happily accept a legitimate voter ID system.
The American Right does not propose one.
 
2021-04-14 2:23:41 PM  
At best, that would cause Hanging Chads II: Electric Boogaloo.
 
2021-04-14 2:26:05 PM  

RTOGUY: indylaw: RTOGUY: Georgia tried to get away from signature matching and just ask for ID instead but that's racist.

It is if the only problem you're trying to address is not voter fraud (because there is none) but the fact that black people showed up and voted for the other guy. Sorry if that chaps your anus.

There's that old argument that black people don't drive or know how to use the internet so they don't have ID or know how to get one.


You'll get over it, you racist crybaby.
 
2021-04-14 2:26:34 PM  
My mother is in a nursing home. She receives a mail in ballot and I fill it out for her and even sign it. Fark DeSantis and Florida voting laws.
 
2021-04-14 2:26:52 PM  

indylaw: RTOGUY: Georgia tried to get away from signature matching and just ask for ID instead but that's racist.

It is if the only problem you're trying to address is not voter fraud (because there is none) but the fact that black people showed up and voted for the other guy. Sorry if that chaps your anus.


The Righties don't really want a legitimate voter ID system, and would flip out if we tried to institute one.
 
2021-04-14 2:27:34 PM  
I voted by mail in 2012 in Florida.  I sent in my ballot more than a month before the election.  Two months after the election I received a form letter saying my ballot was tossed because the signature didn't match the one on file.  Never again.
 
2021-04-14 2:30:03 PM  

indylaw: RTOGUY: indylaw: RTOGUY: Georgia tried to get away from signature matching and just ask for ID instead but that's racist.

It is if the only problem you're trying to address is not voter fraud (because there is none) but the fact that black people showed up and voted for the other guy. Sorry if that chaps your anus.

There's that old argument that black people don't drive or know how to use the internet so they don't have ID or know how to get one.

You'll get over it, you racist crybaby.


The funniest part is when you propose a real, legitimate voter ID system, and they freak out and admit they want no such thing, ever, since it would actually help people to vote more easily.
Complete, total, absolute liars and hypocrites, and anything they say can be taken as the opposite of the truth.
 
2021-04-14 2:31:24 PM  

jso2897: indylaw: RTOGUY: Georgia tried to get away from signature matching and just ask for ID instead but that's racist.

It is if the only problem you're trying to address is not voter fraud (because there is none) but the fact that black people showed up and voted for the other guy. Sorry if that chaps your anus.

The Righties don't really want a legitimate voter ID system, and would flip out if we tried to institute one.


Of course not. The idea that you have to register to vote is absurd. The government knows if you're a US citizen when you're born and/or when you apply for a social security number. Once you have those things, you should be eligible to vote without having to jump through the bullshiat hoops. Forget "voter id".

We didn't have photo ID or voter registration for almost 200 years in this country and (white) people voted without incident that whole time. F*ck the poll tax and fark every person who demands it.
 
2021-04-14 2:35:55 PM  

RTOGUY: indylaw: RTOGUY: Georgia tried to get away from signature matching and just ask for ID instead but that's racist.

It is if the only problem you're trying to address is not voter fraud (because there is none) but the fact that black people showed up and voted for the other guy. Sorry if that chaps your anus.

There's that old argument that black people don't drive or know how to use the internet so they don't have ID or know how to get one.


Show me the widespread voter fraud that necessitates voter ID.
 
2021-04-14 2:36:07 PM  
Maybe they could have you put down the last 4 of your ss# as a pin or maybe a partial dl#.
 
2021-04-14 2:38:24 PM  

indylaw: jso2897: indylaw: RTOGUY: Georgia tried to get away from signature matching and just ask for ID instead but that's racist.

It is if the only problem you're trying to address is not voter fraud (because there is none) but the fact that black people showed up and voted for the other guy. Sorry if that chaps your anus.

The Righties don't really want a legitimate voter ID system, and would flip out if we tried to institute one.

Of course not. The idea that you have to register to vote is absurd. The government knows if you're a US citizen when you're born and/or when you apply for a social security number. Once you have those things, you should be eligible to vote without having to jump through the bullshiat hoops. Forget "voter id".

We didn't have photo ID or voter registration for almost 200 years in this country and (white) people voted without incident that whole time. F*ck the poll tax and fark every person who demands it.


It's irrelevant anyway, since they don't really want it. A real voter id, issued upon establishing your identity as a registered voter, that will follow you automatically , like they  have is other countries would not serve their ends.
It depends upon demanding some independent form of ID, that can be made to be difficult to get, inconvenient to get, unavailable in certain areas, and cost money.
Unnecessary as it is, they could have their voter ID without preventing anyone from voting.
That is NOT what they want, and never was.
 
2021-04-14 2:38:33 PM  

SuburbanCowboy: I want these anti-Democracy Republicans to explain why stricter voting laws are needed, and explain how one would actually commit voter fraud under the current system.

When I go to vote, I sign my name in a book, on a line with my address next to it. If someone wanted to commit fraud, they would have to sign their name on someone else's line. If I went in to vote, and my name was already signed, I would find out.

Have you ever heard of a single case of someone showing up to vote, and someone had already signed in as them? NO, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T F***ING HAPPEN!


Because they claim it's about regaining voter confidence in the system. That they themselves helped destroy with their bullshiat.
 
2021-04-14 2:39:56 PM  

Badafuco: So glad I left that sh*thole state.


It's actually not a shiathole state, most of it. There's the panhandle, which could might as well be Georgia. And there's South Florida, with racists Cubans and celebrities. But most of it is relatively normal.

I'd rather be back in south California but that's not exactly normal either.
 
2021-04-14 2:42:54 PM  

fiddlehead: Show me the widespread voter fraud that necessitates voter ID.


Show me where the widespread voter fraud is.
 
2021-04-14 2:43:25 PM  
Signatures are never the same, nor do they have to be. You can put an X as your signature if you want. If Florida is going down this route and the courts uphold it, just write off Florida and any other state that does this as a lost cause, because we all know they are gonna throw out any name that looks "ethnic" and keep all the white sounding names. This country is basically over if we don't get those voting rights bills passed in Congress, and they are dead unless the filibuster is gotten rid of.

/God I hate this backwards country
 
2021-04-14 2:45:47 PM  

WGJ: It would be interesting to see how they determine which signatures don't match. Would they be grouped by neighborhoods?


Correlation of signatures to party voted for.  Pure co-inky-dink.
 
2021-04-14 3:00:42 PM  

Mugato: fiddlehead: Show me the widespread voter fraud that necessitates voter ID.

Show me where the widespread voter fraud is.


Let's go to the map!

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2021-04-14 3:03:06 PM  

Mugato: Badafuco: So glad I left that sh*thole state.

It's actually not a shiathole state, most of it. There's the panhandle, which could might as well be Georgia. And there's South Florida, with racists Cubans and celebrities. But most of it is relatively normal.

I'd rather be back in south California but that's not exactly normal either.


I was raised in So Cal and spent 40 years there in Ventura. I tried Florida for 2 years. Lived in Clearwater.  I just moved the hell away from everything and now live outside Fairbanks, Alaska.
 
2021-04-14 3:08:21 PM  

Badafuco: was raised in So Cal and spent 40 years there in Ventura. I tried Florida for 2 years. Lived in Clearwater. I just moved the hell away from everything and now live outside Fairbanks, Alaska.


I only spent a few days in Alaska, it was cold as fark but otherwise, not terrible. Just...Alaska.

What was so terrible about Clearwater?
 
2021-04-14 3:20:50 PM  
Who cares what this asshole,wants? You can bet that whatever he wants isn't what the majority of Floridians or Americans in general want. This is what makes him dangerous, he pushes minority wedge issue agendas. This guy has to be prevented from becoming president.
 
2021-04-14 3:21:39 PM  

Mugato: Badafuco: was raised in So Cal and spent 40 years there in Ventura. I tried Florida for 2 years. Lived in Clearwater. I just moved the hell away from everything and now live outside Fairbanks, Alaska.

I only spent a few days in Alaska, it was cold as fark but otherwise, not terrible. Just...Alaska.

What was so terrible about Clearwater?


Scientologists, spring breakers and insane traffic.
 
2021-04-14 3:22:23 PM  

WGJ: It would be interesting to see how they determine which signatures don't match. Would they be grouped by neighborhoods?


And surnames, and names with hyphens, apostrophes, and accent marks.
 
2021-04-14 3:30:59 PM  
As a pharmacist, that would be an issue if he were an MD. That's a ridiculous variety for an adult.
 
2021-04-14 3:42:54 PM  

jso2897: RTOGUY: indylaw: RTOGUY: Georgia tried to get away from signature matching and just ask for ID instead but that's racist.

It is if the only problem you're trying to address is not voter fraud (because there is none) but the fact that black people showed up and voted for the other guy. Sorry if that chaps your anus.

There's that old argument that black people don't drive or know how to use the internet so they don't have ID or know how to get one.

I and all other progressives would happily accept a legitimate voter ID system.
The American Right does not propose one.


These are the same people who are opposed to a national ID card.
 
2021-04-14 4:56:38 PM  
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