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2021-04-14 6:42:16 AM  
Put your affairs in order.
 
2021-04-14 6:59:52 AM  
Clot?

Take an 81mg aspirin daily out of paranoia?

Remember that you may die in 2 weeks but it could be totally unrelated to the shot (car accident, gas leak, etc) so enjoy your life like you normally do.
 
2021-04-14 7:22:04 AM  
Depends... was it Howard Johnson?  Or Gabby Johnson?
 
2021-04-14 7:23:03 AM  
Feeling clotty?
 
2021-04-14 7:29:46 AM  
My wife got it two days ago.  We're watching for symptoms but otherwise not too terribly worried.  I'm a moderna type guy, one down, one to go.
 
2021-04-14 8:21:42 AM  
Can I have your stuff?
 
2021-04-14 8:33:36 AM  

OldRod: Depends... was it Howard Johnson?  Or Gabby Johnson?


Thank you Van.
 
2021-04-14 8:37:50 AM  
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Tell your superiors.
 
2021-04-14 9:04:33 AM  
Nothing, you're almost certainly fine.
 
2021-04-14 9:08:56 AM  
I thought that early data was showing that the clot risk, while sounding significant by the numbers, was on average for the percentage of the population size?
 
2021-04-14 9:12:05 AM  
Not die from Covid.
 
2021-04-14 9:13:27 AM  
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2021-04-14 9:13:39 AM  

Loki009: I thought that early data was showing that the clot risk, while sounding significant by the numbers, was on average for the percentage of the population size?


You may be thinking of the AstraZeneca shot. Of course, the J&J version could easily just be the same paranoia.
 
2021-04-14 9:16:41 AM  
I got the J&J Saturday. No real arm pain, but I am used to horse shots. Some dizziness and slight flu like symptoms with some slight aches. If I was working I would probably beg my boss for a couple days off as I am not really near 100%.

I am certainly going to still wear a KN95 mask.
 
2021-04-14 9:17:06 AM  
6 cases of clotting after 7 million injections.

Chances of getting hit by lightning in your life time?  1:15,300

Yes.  Take precautions and investigate the root cause.
No.  This isn't a reason to panic.
 
2021-04-14 9:18:19 AM  
What to do?  Why, tell your friends of course.
 
2021-04-14 9:24:58 AM  
Wait 9 months.
 
2021-04-14 9:32:02 AM  
I get my 2nd Moderna vaccine in two weeks.
If the J&J vaccine was the first available, I would have taken that one.
Still would, even with the slight risk I could get hit by a bus walking out to my car leaving the pharmacy.
 
2021-04-14 9:38:38 AM  
 
2021-04-14 9:39:22 AM  
6 dead from blood clots
563000 dead from covid in the US

your call, really
 
2021-04-14 9:39:43 AM  

OptimisticCynicism: Loki009: I thought that early data was showing that the clot risk, while sounding significant by the numbers, was on average for the percentage of the population size?

You may be thinking of the AstraZeneca shot. Of course, the J&J version could easily just be the same paranoia.


Not that I disagree, but why have the J&J and AZ vaccines had these reports, while Pfizer and Moderna have not?

Is the ~1 in 1M chance of clotting common with other vaccine types similar to J&J and AZ... Like, for instance, flu vaccine?

Seems odd to me that either is common and normal, in which case, we should see similar in other vaccines, at least with similar ingredients, you'd imagine, even if it's the inert ingredients. In which case, why pause the vaccine?

And if it isn't common, what's up with the J&J and AZ formulae?
 
2021-04-14 9:40:43 AM  

Demetrius: 6 dead from blood clots
563000 dead from covid in the US

your call, really


I heard 1 dead, 5 with clots. The math certainly makes it safer than COVID either way.
 
2021-04-14 9:40:44 AM  

Fursecution: "criminal innumeracy"


Seems about right.
 
2021-04-14 9:43:05 AM  

Quantumbunny: OptimisticCynicism: Loki009: I thought that early data was showing that the clot risk, while sounding significant by the numbers, was on average for the percentage of the population size?

You may be thinking of the AstraZeneca shot. Of course, the J&J version could easily just be the same paranoia.

Not that I disagree, but why have the J&J and AZ vaccines had these reports, while Pfizer and Moderna have not?

Is the ~1 in 1M chance of clotting common with other vaccine types similar to J&J and AZ... Like, for instance, flu vaccine?

Seems odd to me that either is common and normal, in which case, we should see similar in other vaccines, at least with similar ingredients, you'd imagine, even if it's the inert ingredients. In which case, why pause the vaccine?

And if it isn't common, what's up with the J&J and AZ formulae?


Afaik, J&J is an old fashioned vaccine instead of mRNA. However, i think it is more likely to be spurious data that is getting blown way the hell out of proportion.
 
2021-04-14 9:44:29 AM  

Loki009: I thought that early data was showing that the clot risk, while sounding significant by the numbers, was on average for the percentage of the population size?


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2021-04-14 9:46:20 AM  

Muta: 6 cases of clotting after 7 million injections.

Chances of getting hit by lightning in your life time?  1:15,300

Yes.  Take precautions and investigate the root cause.
No.  This isn't a reason to panic.


My math may be quite fuzzy but I estimate around 18000 Covid deaths per million. I will take my chances with the vaccine.
 
2021-04-14 9:49:52 AM  

Muta: 6 cases of clotting after 7 million injections.

Chances of getting hit by lightning in your life time?  1:15,300

Yes.  Take precautions and investigate the root cause.
No.  This isn't a reason to panic.


Nearly everyone gets a tetanus vaccine or booster.  1 in 15,000 experience a fever over 105 degrees.  6 people in 7 million get blood clots.  Lets compare that to the 500,000+ dead in 30 million infections.  I'll take the blood clots over the deaths.
 
2021-04-14 9:58:40 AM  
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/ about one in a million of us, that is
 
2021-04-14 10:05:53 AM  

Autoerotic Defenestration: Loki009: I thought that early data was showing that the clot risk, while sounding significant by the numbers, was on average for the percentage of the population size?

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So, maybe one more order of magnitude ...
 
2021-04-14 10:08:49 AM  

Quantumbunny: Demetrius: 6 dead from blood clots
563000 dead from covid in the US

your call, really

I heard 1 dead, 5 with clots. The math certainly makes it safer than COVID either way.


You're probably right. I just heard the 6 number and figured it was the number dead.

Can we move on with vaccinating people? Please?
 
2021-04-14 10:18:38 AM  

Demetrius: Quantumbunny: Demetrius: 6 dead from blood clots
563000 dead from covid in the US

your call, really

I heard 1 dead, 5 with clots. The math certainly makes it safer than COVID either way.

You're probably right. I just heard the 6 number and figured it was the number dead.

Can we move on with vaccinating people? Please?


We're still moving, you just have to get 2 shots which end up protecting you better anyway.

\House Pfizer, 2nd shot next week.
 
2021-04-14 10:20:32 AM  

Autoerotic Defenestration: Loki009: I thought that early data was showing that the clot risk, while sounding significant by the numbers, was on average for the percentage of the population size?

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That's actually an interesting point. Wonder if there's anything else in common. Maybe we've found some kind of complication circumstance.
 
2021-04-14 10:26:53 AM  

Quantumbunny: Demetrius: Quantumbunny: Demetrius: 6 dead from blood clots
563000 dead from covid in the US

your call, really

I heard 1 dead, 5 with clots. The math certainly makes it safer than COVID either way.

You're probably right. I just heard the 6 number and figured it was the number dead.

Can we move on with vaccinating people? Please?

We're still moving, you just have to get 2 shots which end up protecting you better anyway.

\House Pfizer, 2nd shot next week.


I'm in CT.  State of CT recommended halting J&J pending federal investigation.

/second Moderna yesterday
 
2021-04-14 10:28:54 AM  

Quantumbunny: Demetrius: Quantumbunny: Demetrius: 6 dead from blood clots
563000 dead from covid in the US

your call, really

I heard 1 dead, 5 with clots. The math certainly makes it safer than COVID either way.

You're probably right. I just heard the 6 number and figured it was the number dead.

Can we move on with vaccinating people? Please?

We're still moving, you just have to get 2 shots which end up protecting you better anyway.

\House Pfizer, 2nd shot next week.


I mean.... We think.

We have already conclusively demonstrated that there can be unexpected consequences.... Who knows what else we don't know about these vaccines yet?
 
2021-04-14 10:35:31 AM  
I was jabbed by the Johnson too.  But I got the Pfizer vaccine.
 
2021-04-14 11:03:42 AM  
I got my JnJ shot just over a week ago. So far so good.
 
2021-04-14 11:09:23 AM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Quantumbunny: Demetrius: Quantumbunny: Demetrius: 6 dead from blood clots
563000 dead from covid in the US

your call, really

I heard 1 dead, 5 with clots. The math certainly makes it safer than COVID either way.

You're probably right. I just heard the 6 number and figured it was the number dead.

Can we move on with vaccinating people? Please?

We're still moving, you just have to get 2 shots which end up protecting you better anyway.

\House Pfizer, 2nd shot next week.

I mean.... We think.

We have already conclusively demonstrated that there can be unexpected consequences.... Who knows what else we don't know about these vaccines yet?


After I got my second one, my cell coverage was soooo much better and my download speeds were absolutely phenomenal.  Plus with the second shot, I get to be my own personal hotspot now.  The only thing is that I have this weird compulsion that makes me feel like I have to go and massage Bill Gates' feet.
 
2021-04-14 11:09:36 AM  

MightyMerkin: I got my JnJ shot just over a week ago. So far so good.


Got mine last Thursday, at the insistence of my wife (not necessarily the J&J but to get something sooner rather than later). I suspect it will turn out to be nothing, but it certainly doesn't help our case when we try to convince our 24 year old daughter to get her vaccination.  She's not anti-vax but is not sure about any of them, plus she absolutely hates needles.
 
2021-04-14 11:15:16 AM  

nursetim: MightyMerkin: I got my JnJ shot just over a week ago. So far so good.

Got mine last Thursday, at the insistence of my wife (not necessarily the J&J but to get something sooner rather than later). I suspect it will turn out to be nothing, but it certainly doesn't help our case when we try to convince our 24 year old daughter to get her vaccination.  She's not anti-vax but is not sure about any of them, plus she absolutely hates needles.


Probably does not help that almost every single story about the vaccine features nothing but shots of needles going into arms over and over. I guess what else is there to video, but it might be excessive if you are apprehensive about needles.  My wife has been turning them off now when they start to show the needles over and over.
 
2021-04-14 12:29:52 PM  
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2021-04-14 12:41:37 PM  

KarmicDisaster: Probably does not help that almost every single story about the vaccine features nothing but shots of needles going into arms over and over. I guess what else is there to video, but it might be excessive if you are apprehensive about needles.  My wife has been turning them off now when they start to show the needles over and over.


ok scratching my public service announcement concept nevermind ...

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2021-04-14 1:22:32 PM  
Putting any sort of brakes on the J&J vaccine based on that issue is asinine vs. the pandemic risk.

Same with the AZ vaccine.

It's an injury risk that's so low that we had to vaccinate millions with these vaccines to begin seeing it in meaningful numbers. It's a minuscule risk. It's like getting struck by lightning while crashing your car. More people will die if it's pulled from the market than would ever die from blood clots resulting from it.

It makes a good splashy news story however and will contribute to more idiots not trusting the vaccines that will end this farking pandemic and let us get back to normal life. God we suck at evaluating risk.
 
2021-04-14 1:31:39 PM  
I got the J&J vaccine on the 30th and had only mild side effects which passed after about a day. When I heard the reports of blood clots, out of an abundance of caution I used a machete to hack off the arm in which I had the shot.

/only one of my above statements is true
 
2021-04-14 2:07:36 PM  
Pop low dose aspirin? Lick some rat poison-the warfarin sodium sort-and pick better next go around?
 
2021-04-14 3:03:09 PM  
Of course, that is the 6 clots that we know about from J&J. We should be worried. But we are also still worried about Covid in general. The answer, what do: Stay home. The pandemic is still raging.
 
2021-04-14 6:33:11 PM  
If you get an itch DON'T SCRATCH IT because that will release the clot. Just try not to think about getting an itch or scratching an itch. You should be fine.
 
2021-04-14 7:16:41 PM  

nursetim: MightyMerkin: I got my JnJ shot just over a week ago. So far so good.

Got mine last Thursday, at the insistence of my wife (not necessarily the J&J but to get something sooner rather than later). I suspect it will turn out to be nothing, but it certainly doesn't help our case when we try to convince our 24 year old daughter to get her vaccination.  She's not anti-vax but is not sure about any of them, plus she absolutely hates needles.


I just got an email about the shot from the county about the 6 out of the 7M shots causing clots.
Here is the text:

Use of the J&J COVID-19 vaccine has been paused in Washington State as the CDC reviews reports of a rare type of blood clot, reported in 6 people in the U.S. out of nearly 7 million people who have received the J&J vaccine in the U.S. to date.
The 6 cases occurred between 6-13 days after vaccination. People who received the J&J vaccine more than 3 weeks ago are at very low risk.
If you received the J&J vaccine within the past 3 weeks your risk of a blood clot is still very low. However, if you develop severe headache, abdominal pain, leg pain, or shortness of breath, contact your healthcare provider, go to urgent care or an Emergency Room, or call 206-477-3977 (8am-7pm).
The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are not affected by the CDC review and will continue to be used. Severe side effects to any vaccines are extremely rare
 
2021-04-15 1:22:13 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I get my 2nd Moderna vaccine in two weeks.
If the J&J vaccine was the first available, I would have taken that one.
Still would, even with the slight risk I could get hit by a bus walking out to my car leaving the pharmacy.


It would be quite impressive to get hit by a bus on your way from the pharmacy to the pharmacy parking lot...
 
2021-04-15 1:26:51 AM  

MightyMerkin: nursetim: MightyMerkin: I got my JnJ shot just over a week ago. So far so good.

Got mine last Thursday, at the insistence of my wife (not necessarily the J&J but to get something sooner rather than later). I suspect it will turn out to be nothing, but it certainly doesn't help our case when we try to convince our 24 year old daughter to get her vaccination.  She's not anti-vax but is not sure about any of them, plus she absolutely hates needles.

I just got an email about the shot from the county about the 6 out of the 7M shots causing clots.
Here is the text:

Use of the J&J COVID-19 vaccine has been paused in Washington State as the CDC reviews reports of a rare type of blood clot, reported in 6 people in the U.S. out of nearly 7 million people who have received the J&J vaccine in the U.S. to date.
The 6 cases occurred between 6-13 days after vaccination. People who received the J&J vaccine more than 3 weeks ago are at very low risk.
If you received the J&J vaccine within the past 3 weeks your risk of a blood clot is still very low. However, if you develop severe headache, abdominal pain, leg pain, or shortness of breath, contact your healthcare provider, go to urgent care or an Emergency Room, or call 206-477-3977 (8am-7pm).
The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are not affected by the CDC review and will continue to be used. Severe side effects to any vaccines are extremely rare


What county? I also got mine last week and didn't get an email.
 
2021-04-15 1:57:04 PM  

You Die!: MightyMerkin: nursetim: MightyMerkin: I got my JnJ shot just over a week ago. So far so good.

Got mine last Thursday, at the insistence of my wife (not necessarily the J&J but to get something sooner rather than later). I suspect it will turn out to be nothing, but it certainly doesn't help our case when we try to convince our 24 year old daughter to get her vaccination.  She's not anti-vax but is not sure about any of them, plus she absolutely hates needles.

I just got an email about the shot from the county about the 6 out of the 7M shots causing clots.
Here is the text:

Use of the J&J COVID-19 vaccine has been paused in Washington State as the CDC reviews reports of a rare type of blood clot, reported in 6 people in the U.S. out of nearly 7 million people who have received the J&J vaccine in the U.S. to date.
The 6 cases occurred between 6-13 days after vaccination. People who received the J&J vaccine more than 3 weeks ago are at very low risk.
If you received the J&J vaccine within the past 3 weeks your risk of a blood clot is still very low. However, if you develop severe headache, abdominal pain, leg pain, or shortness of breath, contact your healthcare provider, go to urgent care or an Emergency Room, or call 206-477-3977 (8am-7pm).
The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are not affected by the CDC review and will continue to be used. Severe side effects to any vaccines are extremely rare

What county? I also got mine last week and didn't get an email.


King County
 
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