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(New Zealand Herald)   Air New Zealand is weighing passengers, as well as their luggage. Just one person at a time please, sir   (nzherald.co.nz) divider line
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2021-04-14 4:56:23 AM  
"A customer and crew weight survey is completed every five years to meet regulatory requirements,"

This junk shouldnt ever have made it onto a 'news' site/paper but well, it is the Herald.
 
2021-04-14 6:25:39 AM  
"please point out the regulation that requires this"
 
2021-04-14 6:59:24 AM  
Silly question, but isn't there a way to determine the weight distribution of the plane while it's sitting on the ground?  I know I was once held up because they needed to adjust the luggage distribution.

If they can do that, can't they compare the unloaded weight from maintenance records, the crew-only weights from before preboarding, and the total pre-takeoff weight, factor in the weight of fuel, and get the average that way?
 
2021-04-14 7:49:09 AM  
I've thought for years that if we're going to be treated like freight by airlines we might as well pay according to our weight.  It's only fair.
 
2021-04-14 7:50:28 AM  

gaspode: "A customer and crew weight survey is completed every five years to meet regulatory requirements,"

This junk shouldnt ever have made it onto a 'news' site/paper but well, it is the Herald.


We were weighed coming back from Europe a couple of years ago. This isn't a new thing.
 
2021-04-14 8:04:51 AM  
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2021-04-14 8:56:44 AM  

enry: "please point out the regulation that requires this"


https://www.aviation.govt.nz/assets/r​u​les/advisory-circulars/AC119_4.pdf
 
2021-04-14 9:22:01 AM  

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Actually, most airlines have obesity policies.  Basically, if you can't fit "comfortably" in one seat they'll make you buy a second ticket, and suggest you do so at the time of purchase because if you don't and they don't have 2 seats next to each other they won't let you fly.  Many airlines will refund the second ticket if the flight isn't overbooked.

I get the touchy nature of the subject, but as somebody who got wedged between two obese individuals on a flight from St. Louis to London a long time ago... it is necessary.
 
2021-04-14 9:34:57 AM  

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Luggage weight is a worker health/safety issue. Is there much of a practical difference between 48 and 54 lbs? For a given bag, maybe not; but you also have to draw the line somewhere. And when your job is hauling bags all day long, it adds up.

And many non-US airlines also have strict weight limits for carry-ons, where it becomes a passenger safety issue. AFAIC, if you can't get your bag into the overhead without help, you should have to check it (exception for disabled and those with a companion who can take care of it). I've seen way too many people get whacked on the head because someone is unable to successfully handle their luggage, and it's one of the main reasons I try to avoid aisle seats.
 
2021-04-14 9:35:07 AM  

Exception Collection: Silly question, but isn't there a way to determine the weight distribution of the plane while it's sitting on the ground?  I know I was once held up because they needed to adjust the luggage distribution.

If they can do that, can't they compare the unloaded weight from maintenance records, the crew-only weights from before preboarding, and the total pre-takeoff weight, factor in the weight of fuel, and get the average that way?


Forewarning, I'm not an expert and I hope somebody who knows more chimes in, but in case they don't.

I can't think of any reason you couldn't build scales into the landing gear of an aircraft, but I don't think that's how they do it.  Planes already have to monitor tilt and if they have a noticeable tilt while the craft is still on the ground then they know they're not balanced.  They can't just walk into the passenger section and say "OK I need all the fatties to move to the right side of the plane" so they readjust the luggage.

As for why they wouldn't build scales into the landing gear, which could convey useful information to the pilots... it's one more thing to go wrong in the most essential part of the vehicle.
 
2021-04-14 9:35:17 AM  
NZ is now Bethselamin?
 
2021-04-14 12:31:04 PM  
Big hamster wheel keeps on turning.
Been there and done that keeps on churning.

All that's old now glitters as gold and what was tossed as bad is again the new fad.
 
2021-04-14 12:32:32 PM  
No really, mad magazine did a bit on air travle in like 76-78 somewhere, when pay by weight was a trend of the day. I just can't find the image for it readily to post but got it in my mad crate somewhere.
 
2021-04-14 6:48:43 PM  
Charge by weight of the passenger + luggage, but anything being checked into baggage is charged at half the price.  That will encourage people to have as small a carry-on as possible
 
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