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2021-04-13 9:48:08 PM  
God I hope not.
 
2021-04-13 9:48:11 PM  
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"Bang bang what's the Yang?"
 
2021-04-13 9:48:50 PM  
Don't blame me, I voted for Yodos.
 
2021-04-13 9:53:19 PM  

Summoner101: Don't blame me, I voted for Yodos.


I voted for Yolo.

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2021-04-13 9:54:16 PM  
Has NYC ever had a good mayor? I am not very familiar with their politics but I don't think I've heard of any spoken of fondly. It has to be difficult to curry favor with that many people in such a small area. The city seems too big for one person to govern.
 
2021-04-13 9:59:53 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Has NYC ever had a good mayor? I am not very familiar with their politics but I don't think I've heard of any spoken of fondly. It has to be difficult to curry favor with that many people in such a small area. The city seems too big for one person to govern.


Basically the NYC mayor has the responsibility of a governor and the power of a mayor, which is not a good match. The NYC city council has more members than the Nebraska state legislature. It's a tough place to govern.
 
2021-04-13 10:03:07 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Has NYC ever had a good mayor? I am not very familiar with their politics but I don't think I've heard of any spoken of fondly. It has to be difficult to curry favor with that many people in such a small area. The city seems too big for one person to govern.


They could maybe elect someone who isn't a rich, old racist corporatist. That might help them a bit.
 
2021-04-13 10:03:28 PM  

moothemagiccow: Karma Chameleon: Has NYC ever had a good mayor? I am not very familiar with their politics but I don't think I've heard of any spoken of fondly. It has to be difficult to curry favor with that many people in such a small area. The city seems too big for one person to govern.

Basically the NYC mayor has the responsibility of a governor and the power of a mayor, which is not a good match. The NYC city council has more members than the Nebraska state legislature. It's a tough place to govern.


This.  NYC is bigger than 40 states in population.
 
2021-04-13 10:04:09 PM  
NYC - when it was "fun"

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2021-04-13 10:07:19 PM  

moothemagiccow: Karma Chameleon: Has NYC ever had a good mayor? I am not very familiar with their politics but I don't think I've heard of any spoken of fondly. It has to be difficult to curry favor with that many people in such a small area. The city seems too big for one person to govern.

Basically the NYC mayor has the responsibility of a governor and the power of a mayor, which is not a good match. The NYC city council has more members than the Nebraska state legislature. It's a tough place to govern.


49 to 51. TIL

/Nebraska is a unicameral though, so that definitely skews it
 
2021-04-13 10:08:52 PM  

austerity101: Karma Chameleon: Has NYC ever had a good mayor? I am not very familiar with their politics but I don't think I've heard of any spoken of fondly. It has to be difficult to curry favor with that many people in such a small area. The city seems too big for one person to govern.

They could maybe elect someone who isn't a rich, old racist corporatist. That might help them a bit.


But that's our nation's favorite kind of person to elect!
 
2021-04-13 10:11:50 PM  
Is this where we're planning the gang bang?
 
2021-04-13 10:11:52 PM  
"So you have to ask yourself, do you really think that someone who's been embedded in these bureaucracies is going to be the best person to lead us out of this crisis?"

Yes. This is like asking if I really want an electrician to fix a wiring problem.
 
2021-04-13 10:15:08 PM  

austerity101: Karma Chameleon: Has NYC ever had a good mayor? I am not very familiar with their politics but I don't think I've heard of any spoken of fondly. It has to be difficult to curry favor with that many people in such a small area. The city seems too big for one person to govern.

They could maybe elect someone who isn't a rich, old racist corporatist. That might help them a bit.


Like Bill de Blasio?
 
2021-04-13 10:17:25 PM  

NobleHam: austerity101: Karma Chameleon: Has NYC ever had a good mayor? I am not very familiar with their politics but I don't think I've heard of any spoken of fondly. It has to be difficult to curry favor with that many people in such a small area. The city seems too big for one person to govern.

They could maybe elect someone who isn't a rich, old racist corporatist. That might help them a bit.

Like Bill de Blasio?


When you do as much for your police as he did, that qualifies you as a racist.
 
2021-04-13 10:18:49 PM  
Yang's latest policy push? Talk about busting unlicensed vendors. Because that old lady that sells your drunken ass tamales at 2am is more important than THE GODDAMN PANDEMIC RIGHT NOW!
 
2021-04-13 10:21:10 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Has NYC ever had a good mayor? I am not very familiar with their politics but I don't think I've heard of any spoken of fondly. It has to be difficult to curry favor with that many people in such a small area. The city seems too big for one person to govern.


Even when they're good, they're bad.  Seems like a lot of NYC mayors are very popular and beloved until whatever's problem they bashed in sloppily with a hammer is over the rear horizon and the sloppy hammered mess is the new problem.

See: NYC crime rate and Giuliani's fascism.
 
2021-04-13 10:23:28 PM  

NobleHam: "So you have to ask yourself, do you really think that someone who's been embedded in these bureaucracies is going to be the best person to lead us out of this crisis?"

Yes. This is like asking if I really want an electrician to fix a wiring problem.


Except Yang is like a Bizarro Trump, who wants to jump over the ensludged powers for GOOD instead of assholery.
 
2021-04-13 10:24:19 PM  

thatboyoverthere: Yang's latest policy push? Talk about busting unlicensed vendors. Because that old lady that sells your drunken ass tamales at 2am is more important than THE GODDAMN PANDEMIC RIGHT NOW!


And it will be the tamale lady and the dark-skinned gentleman selling loosies rather than the lily-white Slav selling Grankiyas (I think that's what he just said?).  Because while I will believe Yang ain't racist he won't be enforcing the law.
 
2021-04-13 10:27:41 PM  

jaytkay: NobleHam: "So you have to ask yourself, do you really think that someone who's been embedded in these bureaucracies is going to be the best person to lead us out of this crisis?"

Yes. This is like asking if I really want an electrician to fix a wiring problem.

Except Yang is like a Bizarro Trump, who wants to jump over the ensludged powers for GOOD instead of assholery.


You know what the road to hell is paved with...
 
2021-04-13 10:30:14 PM  
What's wrong with Andrew Yang?

#AllAboardtheYangTrain
 
2021-04-13 10:31:12 PM  

Russ1642: You know what the road to hell is paved with..


So all good intentions are bad. Brilliant. Lovely words to live by.
 
2021-04-13 10:33:09 PM  

jaytkay: Russ1642: You know what the road to hell is paved with..

So all good intentions are bad. Brilliant. Lovely words to live by.


The people that are all "I'm going to change this, and I'm going to change that, and I'm going to crack down on this, and I'm going to ban that, and, and, and..." are the ones that make me anxious.
 
2021-04-13 10:33:26 PM  
I'm not saying we should string a couple of out of touch billionares up by their gonads and dropping them from the Empire State building.... but I'm not NOT saying that either. They don't even have to be in NY, we can import them. Just set out a little exclusive Micheline star pop-up and tell the commoners they aren't allowed to consume, they'll arrive on their own.
 
2021-04-13 10:44:08 PM  

austerity101: Karma Chameleon: Has NYC ever had a good mayor? I am not very familiar with their politics but I don't think I've heard of any spoken of fondly. It has to be difficult to curry favor with that many people in such a small area. The city seems too big for one person to govern.

They could maybe elect someone who isn't a rich, old racist corporatist. That might help them a bit.


Yes, I sure Mr. "We Chinese are naturally superior at math" is a step in the non-racist direction.
 
2021-04-13 10:50:45 PM  

thatboyoverthere: Yang's latest policy push? Talk about busting unlicensed vendors. Because that old lady that sells your drunken ass tamales at 2am is more important than THE GODDAMN PANDEMIC RIGHT NOW!


Yang, if elected, wouldn't take office for another 9 months. Declaring policy now when we have no idea of what the state of the pandemic will be at that time would be stupid. Voters picking a candidate for a multiple year term solely or primarily based on an issue that might not even exist for most of it would be shortsighted. New York small businesses might be slightly interested in addressing unregulated competition as they try to recover the the economiic effects of the pandemic.
 
2021-04-13 11:01:53 PM  

RasIanI: NYC - when it was "fun"

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Soooo, when does the next season of The Deuce start?
 
2021-04-13 11:03:16 PM  

NobleHam: "So you have to ask yourself, do you really think that someone who's been embedded in these bureaucracies is going to be the best person to lead us out of this crisis?"

Yes. This is like asking if I really want an electrician to fix a wiring problem.


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2021-04-13 11:04:56 PM  

Wanderlusting: What's wrong with Andrew Yang?

#AllAboardtheYangTrain


He's a right-winger. Hence your attraction to him.
 
2021-04-13 11:08:03 PM  

thorpe: Wanderlusting: What's wrong with Andrew Yang?

#AllAboardtheYangTrain

He's a right-winger. Hence your attraction to him.


He's a ... what?

Y'all, we need to have frank discussion on left wing vs. right wing when UBI is now being seen as right wing.
 
2021-04-13 11:08:51 PM  

BolshyGreatYarblocks: austerity101: Karma Chameleon: Has NYC ever had a good mayor? I am not very familiar with their politics but I don't think I've heard of any spoken of fondly. It has to be difficult to curry favor with that many people in such a small area. The city seems too big for one person to govern.

They could maybe elect someone who isn't a rich, old racist corporatist. That might help them a bit.

Yes, I sure Mr. "We Chinese are naturally superior at math" is a step in the non-racist direction.


I hope it was clear that I wasn't suggesting that Yang is the solution here, merely pointing out that the history of NYC mayors is, uh, problematic, to put it mildly.
 
2021-04-13 11:10:21 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Has NYC ever had a good mayor? I am not very familiar with their politics but I don't think I've heard of any spoken of fondly. It has to be difficult to curry favor with that many people in such a small area. The city seems too big for one person to govern.


Nobody from New York speaks fondly of another New Yorker.
 
2021-04-13 11:43:41 PM  

NobleHam: "So you have to ask yourself, do you really think that someone who's been embedded in these bureaucracies is going to be the best person to lead us out of this crisis?"

Yes. This is like asking if I really want an electrician to fix a wiring problem.


Honestly, there is something to be said for having an outsider come in and break with current paradigms.
There is a mentality of not being able to try anything new, being beholden to too many established interests, and being too close to a problem.  A guy who has a different skill set coming in and making everyone explain why they keep farking up and making them realize why their strategies are not working (or that they are working but need more resources) can be a good thing.

Just because Trump ran on that concept and it was a massive swindle does not mean it is a bad idea inherently.
 
2021-04-13 11:47:42 PM  

austerity101: When you do as much for your police as he did, that qualifies you as a racist.



De Blasio kept sucking cop even after they doxxed his own daughter.  That's low.
 
2021-04-14 12:16:56 AM  
So is Andrew Yang the new Ron Paul or something? People keep talking about him, but he doesn't seem to go anywhere.
 
2021-04-14 12:24:21 AM  

I want that sauce Morty!: So is Andrew Yang the new Ron Paul or something? People keep talking about him, but he doesn't seem to go anywhere.


When Andrew Yang still had a campaign for POTUS, a campaign shirt arrived in my mailbox...but it was meant for one of my neighbors.

/Just left it at his front door.
//Wearing it now would be hipster AF.
 
2021-04-14 12:26:39 AM  
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"Stop trying to make Andrew Yang happen."
 
2021-04-14 12:35:14 AM  
"The point of my question was to get Yang to talk about race and the racial divisions that President Trump gleefully exacerbates. And I wanted him to address how he would surmount the obstacles those divisions present to get his agenda passed.

Yang just wouldn't go there. Instead, he engaged in some magical thinking about the power of his election and the power of $1,000."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio​n​s/2020/01/21/my-big-problem-with-andre​w-yang/
 
2021-04-14 12:38:06 AM  

thorpe: "The point of my question was to get Yang to talk about race and the racial divisions that President Trump gleefully exacerbates. And I wanted him to address how he would surmount the obstacles those divisions present to get his agenda passed.

Yang just wouldn't go there. Instead, he engaged in some magical thinking about the power of his election and the power of $1,000."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinion​s/2020/01/21/my-big-problem-with-andre​w-yang/


Interestingly enough, none of the other candidates released detailed plans on how they would accomplish M4A, universal college tuition, student loan forgiveness, the Green New Deal, or any of the other 1000 pie in the sky, never going to happen, policy proposals helmed by Democrats.

Why is Andrew Yangs UBI proposal that noteworthy in that respect? None of them are going to happen, but Democrats eat that shiat up as if it were obtainable reality.
 
2021-04-14 12:38:51 AM  
Andrew Yang Has The Most Conservative Health Care Plan In The Democratic Primary

"Former Vice President Joe Biden, South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg and Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota all at least call for the creation of a public health insurance option that would be available to every American. (Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts favor Medicare for All, which would move all Americans on to one government-run insurance plan ― though the two senators disagree on the timeline for implementing the idea.)

In terms of expanding health insurance coverage, Yang says on his website merely that he would "explore" allowing the employees of companies that already provide health insurance the chance to buy into Medicare. "We need to give more choice to employers and employees in a way that removes barriers for businesses to grow," Yang writes.

Under Yang's plan, people employed by businesses that do not provide insurance, or who are self-employed, would continue to purchase coverage on the exchanges created by former President Barack Obama's Affordable Care Act.

The decision not to focus on expanding coverage distinguishes Yang dramatically from his competitors."
 
2021-04-14 12:39:44 AM  
Interesting seeing the rightwinger in this thread supporting Yang.
 
2021-04-14 12:42:35 AM  

thorpe: Andrew Yang Has The Most Conservative Health Care Plan In The Democratic Primary

"Former Vice President Joe Biden, South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg and Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota all at least call for the creation of a public health insurance option that would be available to every American. (Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts favor Medicare for All, which would move all Americans on to one government-run insurance plan ― though the two senators disagree on the timeline for implementing the idea.)

In terms of expanding health insurance coverage, Yang says on his website merely that he would "explore" allowing the employees of companies that already provide health insurance the chance to buy into Medicare. "We need to give more choice to employers and employees in a way that removes barriers for businesses to grow," Yang writes.

Under Yang's plan, people employed by businesses that do not provide insurance, or who are self-employed, would continue to purchase coverage on the exchanges created by former President Barack Obama's Affordable Care Act.

The decision not to focus on expanding coverage distinguishes Yang dramatically from his competitors."


And yet none of the other Democrats proposals are even in the realm of obtainable reality ...

I'd rather a candidate campaign on political reality rather than absurdist nonsense. M4A isn't going to happen. Opening Medicaid and Medicare to more people isn't going to happen. Expanding Obamacare isn't going to happen.

In today's political reality, I give Yang the benefit of at least being honest with the electorate rather than blatantly lie to them like Sanders, Warren, or Biden did.
 
2021-04-14 12:47:25 AM  

Wanderlusting: And yet none of the other Democrats proposals are even in the realm of obtainable reality ...

I'd rather a candidate campaign on political reality rather than absurdist nonsense.


Another rightwinger for Yang.
 
2021-04-14 1:13:00 AM  

thorpe: NobleHam: "So you have to ask yourself, do you really think that someone who's been embedded in these bureaucracies is going to be the best person to lead us out of this crisis?"

Yes. This is like asking if I really want an electrician to fix a wiring problem.

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The standard to get into Congress is really low, and becoming an airline pilot...well...that process has higher standards.

Seriously...we need term limits for Congress.  Otherwise, we end up with people who only care about achieving as much power as they can...and keeping it that way.
 
2021-04-14 7:12:49 AM  

thorpe: NobleHam: "So you have to ask yourself, do you really think that someone who's been embedded in these bureaucracies is going to be the best person to lead us out of this crisis?"

Yes. This is like asking if I really want an electrician to fix a wiring problem.

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I like Yang, I think he seems like a smart guy and has some good ideas, and I think mayor is a far better place for him to start his political career then POTUS. But he goes down a lot of points in my eyes by playing the "I'm not a politician, and that makes me more qualified to take this political job" card.
 
2021-04-14 8:24:51 AM  

thorpe: NobleHam: "So you have to ask yourself, do you really think that someone who's been embedded in these bureaucracies is going to be the best person to lead us out of this crisis?"

Yes. This is like asking if I really want an electrician to fix a wiring problem.

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Is that.....Mike Lindell?
 
2021-04-14 8:54:40 AM  

The_Sponge: thorpe: NobleHam: "So you have to ask yourself, do you really think that someone who's been embedded in these bureaucracies is going to be the best person to lead us out of this crisis?"

Yes. This is like asking if I really want an electrician to fix a wiring problem.

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The standard to get into Congress is really low, and becoming an airline pilot...well...that process has higher standards.

Seriously...we need term limits for Congress.  Otherwise, we end up with people who only care about achieving as much power as they can...and keeping it that way.


Orrrrr, you get a bunch of people cycling into office who have no idea what they are doing beyond supporting the latest hot conspiracy theory.
 
2021-04-14 10:34:01 AM  

snowshovel: The_Sponge: thorpe: NobleHam: "So you have to ask yourself, do you really think that someone who's been embedded in these bureaucracies is going to be the best person to lead us out of this crisis?"

Yes. This is like asking if I really want an electrician to fix a wiring problem.

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The standard to get into Congress is really low, and becoming an airline pilot...well...that process has higher standards.

Seriously...we need term limits for Congress.  Otherwise, we end up with people who only care about achieving as much power as they can...and keeping it that way.

Orrrrr, you get a bunch of people cycling into office who have no idea what they are doing beyond supporting the latest hot conspiracy theory.


And worse yet, they use their congressional job as an extended audition for the lobbying jobs they hope to get after they're term limited out.
 
2021-04-14 11:19:42 AM  
Wanderlusting:

Interestingly enough, none of the other candidates released detailed plans on how they would accomplish M4A, universal college tuition, student loan forgiveness, the Green New Deal, or any of the other 1000 pie in the sky, never going to happen, policy proposals helmed by Democrats.

None of the other candidates released detailed plans? Odd because https://elizabethwarren.com/plans/pay​i​ng-for-m4a looks like a detailed plan. I guess listing actual bills, financial forecasts, funding sources, cost cutting, measures, and independent analysis doesn't count as a "detailed plan" for you.

Maybe try actually reading what the candidates release instead of relying on Fox to tell you what to think.
 
2021-04-14 4:42:14 PM  

Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: Wanderlusting:

Interestingly enough, none of the other candidates released detailed plans on how they would accomplish M4A, universal college tuition, student loan forgiveness, the Green New Deal, or any of the other 1000 pie in the sky, never going to happen, policy proposals helmed by Democrats.

None of the other candidates released detailed plans? Odd because https://elizabethwarren.com/plans/payi​ng-for-m4a looks like a detailed plan. I guess listing actual bills, financial forecasts, funding sources, cost cutting, measures, and independent analysis doesn't count as a "detailed plan" for you.

Maybe try actually reading what the candidates release instead of relying on Fox to tell you what to think.


Uh, I see exactly the same level of detail from Andrew Yang's UBI - in that, given the current congress - neither are probable issues for passage. 

Again, you seek to bash Yang for the same shiat every other Democrat does - namely, come up with pie-in-the-sky proposals backed by taxes and revenue that will never pass in today's legislative environment in order to curry votes from people who keep hoping that reality will conform to their biases rather than the other way around. 

PS. I don't watch any Fox News. I prefer my information come from objective newswire sources like the AP, AFP, Reuters, and the BBC.
 
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