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(History Channel)   On this day in history, in 1360, a hail storm resulted in a thousand dead English troops in France, showing that even back then it wasn't safe to say 'hello' to her   (history.com) divider line
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2021-04-13 1:12:29 PM  
No one had helmets?
 
2021-04-13 4:37:58 PM  
If you have nothing to protect yourself yet there are dead people then use the dead people as cover.
 
2021-04-13 4:39:45 PM  
Sounds like the French kicked their butts in battle but they had to come up with an excuse.
 
2021-04-13 4:48:15 PM  
I don't get it.
 
2021-04-13 4:50:06 PM  
God had spoken!
 
2021-04-13 4:51:09 PM  
I'm very skeptical that hail killed one thousand people unless maybe if they were all naked and tied in such a way that they could not protect themselves and then were left there without care.
 
2021-04-13 4:51:41 PM  
Christian Empires: "God is with us!"

God: ::Takes a pull off an opium pipe:: "Who are you people?"
 
2021-04-13 4:59:26 PM  
then they went away to avoid being taunted a second time.

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2021-04-13 5:00:16 PM  

talkertopc: I'm very skeptical that hail killed one thousand people unless maybe if they were all naked and tied in such a way that they could not protect themselves and then were left there without care.


Is that when the dommes in leather show up. I think I've seen that one on PornHub. HOT!
 
2021-04-13 5:01:46 PM  

allthesametome: I don't get it.


Maybe a reference to:

Halestorm - "Hello, It's Mz. Hyde" EP [Official Audio]
Youtube 18CsONbjOFE



If it isn't, then I don't get it, either.
 
2021-04-13 5:01:49 PM  
There has to be an undocumented part to this story.
This was a medieval army on campaign.
They're called shields, people. Lots of you had them. Protect the ones who don't. Weather issue solved.
 
2021-04-13 5:08:36 PM  

comrade: Sounds like the French kicked their butts in battle but they had to come up with an excuse.


Or there was a mutiny against a "popular" commander.  Or it was made up.  People writing historical accounts were prone to exaggerating death tolls to make the favored side seem more heroic or more fierce.
 
2021-04-13 5:10:33 PM  
Or maybe there was a panic, and then deaths from a combination of stampedes and drowning and being hunted down by angry locals, and the remainder deserted.
 
2021-04-13 5:22:27 PM  
If you've ever been unexpectedly caught in in a serious hail storm you know those ice stones from the sky farking hurt and could possibly kill. But a 1000 dead?
 
2021-04-13 5:33:42 PM  

talkertopc: I'm very skeptical that hail killed one thousand people unless maybe if they were all naked and tied in such a way that they could not protect themselves and then were left there without care.


Depending on the size of the hail stones and the size of the storm, that would be very easy to believe.
 
2021-04-13 5:39:02 PM  
Farkers: I went and looked up if it happened to be in both sides of the story... yep.

The French history says it decimated all vineyards in the South, causing a multi-year wine shortage, and battered the economy for years - until they picked another fight with England 9 years later.

Meteorologically, this happens in Southern France. Violent, tremendous mesocyclonic cells capable of multiple weaker tornadoes (< EF3), derechos, 3" hail (WHICH DOES KILL PEOPLE, FOLKS) and flooding. They just had one a few years ago that spawned an EF4 tornado - Europe's most powerful in recorded History.
 
2021-04-13 5:40:56 PM  
Lot of people have never weathered a hail storm dressed as a medieval peasant soldier and it shows.
 
2021-04-13 5:46:42 PM  
Imagine this, with larger hailstones, for half an hour, while camped on an open plain in just tents, surrounded by thousands of war horses:

A sudden hail storm in Russia (Novosibirsk) 12.07.2014 | Внезапный ураган в Новосибирске 12.07.2014
Youtube idjyusDUGSc

I'm guessing there were a lot of trampling deaths, and perhaps some unconscious shallow-water drownings.
 
2021-04-13 6:01:40 PM  
Global warming has been with us a long time, it seems.
 
2021-04-13 6:03:20 PM  

Jedekai: Farkers: I went and looked up if it happened to be in both sides of the story... yep.

The French history says it decimated all vineyards in the South, causing a multi-year wine shortage, and battered the economy for years - until they picked another fight with England 9 years later.

Meteorologically, this happens in Southern France. Violent, tremendous mesocyclonic cells capable of multiple weaker tornadoes (< EF3), derechos, 3" hail (WHICH DOES KILL PEOPLE, FOLKS) and flooding. They just had one a few years ago that spawned an EF4 tornado - Europe's most powerful in recorded History.


So it wasn't just hail, it was a big freaking storm.  That I can understand.
 
2021-04-13 6:05:31 PM  
I can't find an actual reputable source on this. Everything links back to this history dot com account, which has no sourcing / attribution
 
2021-04-13 6:09:35 PM  

Jedekai: Farkers: I went and looked up if it happened to be in both sides of the story... yep.

The French history says it decimated all vineyards in the South, causing a multi-year wine shortage, and battered the economy for years - until they picked another fight with England 9 years later.

Meteorologically, this happens in Southern France. Violent, tremendous mesocyclonic cells capable of multiple weaker tornadoes (< EF3), derechos, 3" hail (WHICH DOES KILL PEOPLE, FOLKS) and flooding. They just had one a few years ago that spawned an EF4 tornado - Europe's most powerful in recorded History.


Good intel -- Though, the weather nerd in me thinks many (most?) of the deaths were from lighting strikes, wind-borne debris, etc.

Curious as to what type of helmets they were wearing, if any.
 
2021-04-13 6:15:12 PM  
If it happened at night while the majority were asleep in tents out in an open field and couldn't find their gear or armour in the panic, yeah, I've seen hailstorms that could do this damage.

We had one where I lived 20 years ago and it destroyed terracotta tiled and older iron roofs and totalled thousands of cars in its path. I saw a guy run out into the street trying to throw a mattress over his car and get knocked clean out as soon as he left his house. If his wife hadn't have dragged him back in by his ankles, I have no doubt that he would have died.

7 NEWS flashback - 1999 Sydney hailstorm
Youtube hAlhjeW0_lY
 
2021-04-13 6:25:47 PM  
...the next army wore helmets and only died in the usual way.
 
2021-04-13 6:32:19 PM  
 
2021-04-13 6:51:27 PM  

Mi-go amigo: Yeah, hail stones can get pretty enormous.


That reminds me of the hail storms I saw when I lived in the mountains.  The greatest danger was wind and flash flooding.  After that, it was car crashes because hailstones are super slippery.  And then injuries from being hit by the hail or by things broken by the hail.  It's never just hail, although the stones sometimes were huge
 
2021-04-13 6:54:41 PM  
Ok stubby, time to tell us what the fug you talking about...
 
JRB
2021-04-13 7:22:10 PM  
Meh. I'm guessing:

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2021-04-13 7:48:40 PM  

acad1228: talkertopc: I'm very skeptical that hail killed one thousand people unless maybe if they were all naked and tied in such a way that they could not protect themselves and then were left there without care.

Depending on the size of the hail stones and the size of the storm, that would be very easy to believe.


Hail storms with big hailstones aren't rare but it's rare that they cause any death. Last time in the U.S. was in 2000. 1360 was still a time when people who recorded history spoke of monsters and miracles.
 
2021-04-13 8:01:38 PM  
It was a dark and stormy knight ...
 
2021-04-13 8:39:20 PM  
I feel rather sad for halestorm. If you check their Wikipedia page, there is a disclaimer stating not to confuse them with Alestorm. You click that link and the first sentence tells you Alestorm is a Scottish Pirate Metal band. You body's natural reflex opens up YouTube and you start watching this:

ALESTORM - Drink (Official Video) | Napalm Records
Youtube f55CqLc6IR0

/Halestorm never had a chance
 
2021-04-13 8:45:11 PM  
Subby, ever seen a *real* hailstorm? April of '93, I think it was, we had one in Austin. Saved one hailstone that was literally as large as a golf ball in the freezer. My late wife and I, who worked at the same company, were afraid the skylights would break. Our son was walking home, and got under a roof.

The largest car dealer in Austin, on the north side, went out of business, because every. single. car. was totaled by insurance. A co-worker had the side mirror on his car knocked off.

Do I need to go on?
 
2021-04-13 9:21:28 PM  
McGrits: I feel rather sad for halestorm. If you check their Wikipedia page, there is a disclaimer stating not to confuse them with Alestorm. You click that link and the first sentence tells you Alestorm is a Scottish Pirate lMetal band. You body's natural reflex opens up YouTube and you start watching this:...

This is now my new favorite thing
 
2021-04-13 10:00:18 PM  
Fourteenth century was one of incredible climate disruption that led to famine and plague. What caused the disruption is debated between solar minimums and volcanic eruptions in the thirteenth century. What is plain as day is that it all happened in the middle of a major conflict better England and France.

The chroniclers often said things like the sky rained blood when what they witnessed was something like rain with volcanic ash in the atmosphere making the sky red. Hail seems pretty clear, but it could be any of several phenomena. Further, if it happened to be related to a volcano in some way, there could be ash or other chemicals in the atmosphere.

Point is trust that a bunch of people died because you can't fake that report. How they died is the question
 
2021-04-13 10:01:39 PM  
Huh.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healy​_​(volcano)

Volcanic eruption in 1360. Could be related.
 
2021-04-13 10:10:48 PM  

acad1228: talkertopc: I'm very skeptical that hail killed one thousand people unless maybe if they were all naked and tied in such a way that they could not protect themselves and then were left there without care.

Depending on the size of the hail stones and the size of the storm, that would be very easy to believe.


You mean, like, 4 really, really big ones..?

Yeah. That could happen.
 
2021-04-14 8:44:52 AM  
 
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