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2021-04-13 8:39:57 AM  
It is important, and I'm fair certain it's in the pipe already, but there's a lot to fix after The Tangerine Dream, and a lot of obstructionists, if not straight out saboteurs, to root out.

Democrats control essentially two of the three branches of government, but it ain't magic. There's groundwork to lay down, and people to get into place to make it happen. Make a lot of things happen.

The To Do list for this Administration is f*cking long.
 
2021-04-13 8:47:29 AM  

hubiestubert: It is important, and I'm fair certain it's in the pipe already, but there's a lot to fix after The Tangerine Dream, and a lot of obstructionists, if not straight out saboteurs, to root out.


This is always the excuse for everything that the administration and Congress aren't doing. There is a lot of work to be done on a lot of fronts and they're not really doing any of it. If there were some progress on one front that we could point to and say "there, at least that's being done and done well" then that would be one thing.

But nobody's being held accountable for organizing and funding the 1/6 insurrection, our concentration camps are full, the wall is still being built, Black people are still being lynched by cops, we're still having multiple daily mass shootings, even stroke-of-the-pen shiat like forgiving student loans and de-scheduling cannabis are nowhere to be found.

At some point, "there's a lot to be done on a lot of fronts" is no longer an acceptable excuse for nothing being done on any front.
 
2021-04-13 8:55:27 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: hubiestubert: It is important, and I'm fair certain it's in the pipe already, but there's a lot to fix after The Tangerine Dream, and a lot of obstructionists, if not straight out saboteurs, to root out.

This is always the excuse for everything that the administration and Congress aren't doing. There is a lot of work to be done on a lot of fronts and they're not really doing any of it. If there were some progress on one front that we could point to and say "there, at least that's being done and done well" then that would be one thing.

But nobody's being held accountable for organizing and funding the 1/6 insurrection, our concentration camps are full, the wall is still being built, Black people are still being lynched by cops, we're still having multiple daily mass shootings, even stroke-of-the-pen shiat like forgiving student loans and de-scheduling cannabis are nowhere to be found.

At some point, "there's a lot to be done on a lot of fronts" is no longer an acceptable excuse for nothing being done on any front.


So, what's Biden supposed to do? Wave a magic wand? Declare racism dead? Disband every municipal police department? Execute anyone who worked during the former Administration?

I get that folks are impatient, but he's been in office only four months.
 
2021-04-13 8:56:06 AM  

hubiestubert: It is important, and I'm fair certain it's in the pipe already, but there's a lot to fix after The Tangerine Dream, and a lot of obstructionists, if not straight out saboteurs, to root out.

Democrats control essentially two of the three branches of government, but it ain't magic. There's groundwork to lay down, and people to get into place to make it happen. Make a lot of things happen.

The To Do list for this Administration is f*cking long.


It is, but not being cruel to innocent children should be way up on the list.
 
2021-04-13 9:05:06 AM  
There's work to be done but what are the conditions now compared to two years ago compared to 5 years ago compared to 10 years ago?  During the Trump years we had photos of kids being kept in cages.  The photo in TFA is showing a dorm room which is a massive improvement.  Also hearing that Biden Admin is renting hotel rooms for families, also a huge improvement.  Is it perfect?  No. Can it be better? Yes.  Is it better than during Trump? Yes.  Can we keep improving? Yes.
 
2021-04-13 9:05:23 AM  

hubiestubert: AdmirableSnackbar: hubiestubert: It is important, and I'm fair certain it's in the pipe already, but there's a lot to fix after The Tangerine Dream, and a lot of obstructionists, if not straight out saboteurs, to root out.

This is always the excuse for everything that the administration and Congress aren't doing. There is a lot of work to be done on a lot of fronts and they're not really doing any of it. If there were some progress on one front that we could point to and say "there, at least that's being done and done well" then that would be one thing.

But nobody's being held accountable for organizing and funding the 1/6 insurrection, our concentration camps are full, the wall is still being built, Black people are still being lynched by cops, we're still having multiple daily mass shootings, even stroke-of-the-pen shiat like forgiving student loans and de-scheduling cannabis are nowhere to be found.

At some point, "there's a lot to be done on a lot of fronts" is no longer an acceptable excuse for nothing being done on any front.

So, what's Biden supposed to do? Wave a magic wand? Declare racism dead? Disband every municipal police department? Execute anyone who worked during the former Administration?

I get that folks are impatient, but he's been in office only four months.


His whole argument for electing him was that he would be ready on day one to get started cleaning up after Trump. Again, I'm not big on excuses here. We don't have the time. Four months in is 1/12 of his term. It's 1/6 of the Congressional term.

Our problems are too big and have gone on for too long - even before Trump - for unending patience while nothing happens. We've seen that before and we've seen how it only ends up making things worse.
 
2021-04-13 9:09:12 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: hubiestubert: AdmirableSnackbar: hubiestubert: It is important, and I'm fair certain it's in the pipe already, but there's a lot to fix after The Tangerine Dream, and a lot of obstructionists, if not straight out saboteurs, to root out.

This is always the excuse for everything that the administration and Congress aren't doing. There is a lot of work to be done on a lot of fronts and they're not really doing any of it. If there were some progress on one front that we could point to and say "there, at least that's being done and done well" then that would be one thing.

But nobody's being held accountable for organizing and funding the 1/6 insurrection, our concentration camps are full, the wall is still being built, Black people are still being lynched by cops, we're still having multiple daily mass shootings, even stroke-of-the-pen shiat like forgiving student loans and de-scheduling cannabis are nowhere to be found.

At some point, "there's a lot to be done on a lot of fronts" is no longer an acceptable excuse for nothing being done on any front.

So, what's Biden supposed to do? Wave a magic wand? Declare racism dead? Disband every municipal police department? Execute anyone who worked during the former Administration?

I get that folks are impatient, but he's been in office only four months.

His whole argument for electing him was that he would be ready on day one to get started cleaning up after Trump. Again, I'm not big on excuses here. We don't have the time. Four months in is 1/12 of his term. It's 1/6 of the Congressional term.

Our problems are too big and have gone on for too long - even before Trump - for unending patience while nothing happens. We've seen that before and we've seen how it only ends up making things worse.


So, you're Team Magic Wand then.

Good to know. Back in the real world, plans take time to implement.
 
2021-04-13 9:10:02 AM  

hubiestubert: Back in the real world, plans take time to implement.


What plans?
 
2021-04-13 9:23:22 AM  
"Democrats in Disarray!  Why can't they govern!?!?"

/yawn
 
2021-04-13 9:27:22 AM  
How many trillions of spending and no one can put up a yurt with bunk beds?
 
2021-04-13 9:33:49 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: hubiestubert: Back in the real world, plans take time to implement.

What plans?


For migrant kids? Well, I have a modest proposal...
 
2021-04-13 9:35:11 AM  

hubiestubert: Execute anyone who worked during the former Administration?


Jailing hundreds of scumbags from the bush and trump admins would be a start.
 
2021-04-13 9:35:33 AM  

hubiestubert: It is important, and I'm fair certain it's in the pipe already, but there's a lot to fix after The Tangerine Dream, and a lot of obstructionists, if not straight out saboteurs, to root out.

Democrats control essentially two of the three branches of government, but it ain't magic. There's groundwork to lay down, and people to get into place to make it happen. Make a lot of things happen.

The To Do list for this Administration is f*cking long.


Take out the Trump mention from what you just posted, replace it with "Dubya." This was the Obama apologists' exact same tactic.

How did that work out again?
 
2021-04-13 9:35:41 AM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: hubiestubert: It is important, and I'm fair certain it's in the pipe already, but there's a lot to fix after The Tangerine Dream, and a lot of obstructionists, if not straight out saboteurs, to root out.

Democrats control essentially two of the three branches of government, but it ain't magic. There's groundwork to lay down, and people to get into place to make it happen. Make a lot of things happen.

The To Do list for this Administration is f*cking long.

It is, but not being cruel to innocent children should be way up on the list.


And there's a thread downstream about how progress has already been made.
 
2021-04-13 9:36:24 AM  

enry: There's work to be done but what are the conditions now compared to two years ago compared to 5 years ago compared to 10 years ago?  During the Trump years we had photos of kids being kept in cages.  The photo in TFA is showing a dorm room which is a massive improvement.  Also hearing that Biden Admin is renting hotel rooms for families, also a huge improvement.  Is it perfect?  No. Can it be better? Yes.  Is it better than during Trump? Yes.  Can we keep improving? Yes.


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2021-04-13 9:37:44 AM  
Biden *is* addressing the issues and the squad *are* right to want more to be done.

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2021-04-13 9:39:12 AM  
The guys in the desks said Biden was giving people money to stay 'home'. I guess the gangs in Honduras will appreciate the opportunity extra money.

Seems like solving the gang problem we helped create would go a long way but that would be nation building and the Republicans are completely opposed to that.
 
2021-04-13 9:41:04 AM  
Biden said he was prepared on day one. Why hasn't he solved climate change, cancer, drug addiction and achieved peace in the middle east?

Total fraud. Just like 0bama.
 
2021-04-13 9:41:30 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: The guys in the desks said Biden was giving people money to stay 'home'. I guess the gangs in Honduras will appreciate the opportunity extra money.

Seems like solving the gang problem we helped create would go a long way but that would be nation building and the Republicans are completely opposed to that.


I'm sorry, "gang problem"?

Okay, I'll bite. Which non-white people need to be more aggressively monitored and policed for the sake of your comfort now?
 
2021-04-13 9:42:16 AM  

EyeballKid: hubiestubert: It is important, and I'm fair certain it's in the pipe already, but there's a lot to fix after The Tangerine Dream, and a lot of obstructionists, if not straight out saboteurs, to root out.

Democrats control essentially two of the three branches of government, but it ain't magic. There's groundwork to lay down, and people to get into place to make it happen. Make a lot of things happen.

The To Do list for this Administration is f*cking long.

Take out the Trump mention from what you just posted, replace it with "Dubya." This was the Obama apologists' exact same tactic.

How did that work out again?


A second term.
 
2021-04-13 9:46:09 AM  

Michael J Faux: EyeballKid: hubiestubert: It is important, and I'm fair certain it's in the pipe already, but there's a lot to fix after The Tangerine Dream, and a lot of obstructionists, if not straight out saboteurs, to root out.

Democrats control essentially two of the three branches of government, but it ain't magic. There's groundwork to lay down, and people to get into place to make it happen. Make a lot of things happen.

The To Do list for this Administration is f*cking long.

Take out the Trump mention from what you just posted, replace it with "Dubya." This was the Obama apologists' exact same tactic.

How did that work out again?

A second term.


Now, who got more done from '12 to '16: co-President Boehner or co-President McConnell?
 
2021-04-13 9:46:57 AM  

Michael J Faux: EyeballKid: hubiestubert: It is important, and I'm fair certain it's in the pipe already, but there's a lot to fix after The Tangerine Dream, and a lot of obstructionists, if not straight out saboteurs, to root out.

Democrats control essentially two of the three branches of government, but it ain't magic. There's groundwork to lay down, and people to get into place to make it happen. Make a lot of things happen.

The To Do list for this Administration is f*cking long.

Take out the Trump mention from what you just posted, replace it with "Dubya." This was the Obama apologists' exact same tactic.

How did that work out again?

A second term.


... of record deportations.
 
2021-04-13 9:46:59 AM  
it's like a whole thread full of people have taken for granted that we'd have had 20% of the adult population fully vaccinated with Kushner and Mnuchin auctioning off doses.

I get that there is a lot more to do, and this particular issue still needs a lot of focus.

but the whole "what have they even done in 4 months?" complaint is farking bullshiat.
 
2021-04-13 9:50:38 AM  

baorao: it's like a whole thread full of people have taken for granted that we'd have had 20% of the adult population fully vaccinated with Kushner and Mnuchin auctioning off doses.

I get that there is a lot more to do, and this particular issue still needs a lot of focus.

but the whole "what have they even done in 4 months?" complaint is farking bullshiat.


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2021-04-13 9:52:38 AM  
4 months. The wheels of government grind slowly, it takes 2-3 months to get the reins in your hands after a changeover of power. I'm willing to give them some more time.

Now if we get to a year and significant progress isn't being made then it's time to start complaining.
 
2021-04-13 9:55:25 AM  

hubiestubert: So, what's Biden supposed to do?


Look, I'm generally with you on most things, and I get he can't fix everything overnight. But he could start by NOT saying stupid sh*t like this"Question is: Was it an accident or  intentional? That remains to be determined," Biden says of Daunte Wright. "In the meantime, I want to make it clear again: there is absolutely no justification-none-for looting. No justification for violence. Peaceful protest? Understandable."

People are justifiably outraged that the police keep killing them and using bullsh*t excuses to get away with it. And here is the president coming across like he's more concerned about the destruction of white property than the reasons people are outraged, and he's putting the responsibility on those people to keep the peace rather than on the fascist pigs who almost always instigate the violence at such protests so they have an excuse to break out the chemical weapons, rubber bullets, and batons.

It's hard to demand peaceful protest from the people when the very thing they are protesting against comes out against them in riot gear and starts committing violence against them. And here's Biden demanding restraint from the protestors and not the police. 

And then his policy response is inevitably going to be throwing even more money at the police. 

So, for a start, he could maybe, you know. NOT do that kind of thing.
 
2021-04-13 9:55:54 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: hubiestubert: AdmirableSnackbar: hubiestubert: It is important, and I'm fair certain it's in the pipe already, but there's a lot to fix after The Tangerine Dream, and a lot of obstructionists, if not straight out saboteurs, to root out.

This is always the excuse for everything that the administration and Congress aren't doing. There is a lot of work to be done on a lot of fronts and they're not really doing any of it. If there were some progress on one front that we could point to and say "there, at least that's being done and done well" then that would be one thing.

But nobody's being held accountable for organizing and funding the 1/6 insurrection, our concentration camps are full, the wall is still being built, Black people are still being lynched by cops, we're still having multiple daily mass shootings, even stroke-of-the-pen shiat like forgiving student loans and de-scheduling cannabis are nowhere to be found.

At some point, "there's a lot to be done on a lot of fronts" is no longer an acceptable excuse for nothing being done on any front.

So, what's Biden supposed to do? Wave a magic wand? Declare racism dead? Disband every municipal police department? Execute anyone who worked during the former Administration?

I get that folks are impatient, but he's been in office only four months.

His whole argument for electing him was that he would be ready on day one to get started cleaning up after Trump. Again, I'm not big on excuses here. We don't have the time. Four months in is 1/12 of his term. It's 1/6 of the Congressional term.

Our problems are too big and have gone on for too long - even before Trump - for unending patience while nothing happens. We've seen that before and we've seen how it only ends up making things worse.


"Reality" isn't an excuse. You're pretending nothing has been improved, which says to me you want to believe that to complain.
 
2021-04-13 9:56:00 AM  
"In recent weeks, the Biden administration has had to rely on pop-up sites, including an influx facility in Carrizo Springs, Texas, to keep up with the sheer number of unaccompanied children arriving at the US southern border."

Okay, so what is he supposed to do? These are real people and real people have to be somewhere. Imagine a situation where a sewer pipe has cracked in your basement. The last owner of the house didn't bother to fix it for... four years or so, and on the day you move in there is 6 feet of hardened shat in the basement, right up to the edge of the window.

Now for all of the whiny pissbabies that think Biden or any other president is supposed to be able to wave a wand and FIX ALL THE THINGS on January 21st, you can well and truly fark the fark off. If you have a solution to this I'm sure there are those in government that would just love to hear it. Since you don't and are simply content to bleat "DooOOoOOoo SOmeTHiNG!!11!!11!!", you can fark off too.
 
2021-04-13 9:57:17 AM  
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We're still in panel one, I see, slowly transitioning to panel two.
 
2021-04-13 9:58:56 AM  

MHudson: "Reality" isn't an excuse. You're pretending nothing has been improved, which says to me you want to believe that to complain.


What has been improved? If you think I'm pretending that Biden has done nothing, obviously you are seeing tons of improvements everywhere that I must pretend they don't exist. So, what fantastic accomplishments am I pretending haven't happened?
 
2021-04-13 9:59:04 AM  
The electoral college?
 
2021-04-13 9:59:11 AM  
fark you subby, you miserable dishonest sack of shiat.
 
2021-04-13 10:01:59 AM  
For months Biden "couldn't" do anything about the kids in cages. Then , like a miracle , he was able to start movement on it after it peaked and video was leaked.

Some people want you to believe it was all just a coincidence and not Biden being an uncaring racist until he got bad PR.
 
2021-04-13 10:02:07 AM  
I see the snackbar is open for trolling business...
 
2021-04-13 10:02:26 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: hubiestubert: It is important, and I'm fair certain it's in the pipe already, but there's a lot to fix after The Tangerine Dream, and a lot of obstructionists, if not straight out saboteurs, to root out.

This is always the excuse for everything that the administration and Congress aren't doing. There is a lot of work to be done on a lot of fronts and they're not really doing any of it. If there were some progress on one front that we could point to and say "there, at least that's being done and done well" then that would be one thing.

But nobody's being held accountable for organizing and funding the 1/6 insurrection, our concentration camps are full, the wall is still being built, Black people are still being lynched by cops, we're still having multiple daily mass shootings, even stroke-of-the-pen shiat like forgiving student loans and de-scheduling cannabis are nowhere to be found.

At some point, "there's a lot to be done on a lot of fronts" is no longer an acceptable excuse for nothing being done on any front.


So Biden should act with more authority and take unilateral action? That sounds like the strategy for making a Democracy healthier!
 
2021-04-13 10:03:31 AM  

EyeballKid: [rall.com image 720x548]We're still in panel one, I see, slowly transitioning to panel two.


I sure hope no one actually got paid to create that pile of shiat comic.
 
2021-04-13 10:03:55 AM  
Yeah, you guys.  President Bernie Sanders would have fixed everything by now and we'd be already living in a crystal dome and replicator unit utopia if only we hadn't elected a filthy centrist like Biden!
 
2021-04-13 10:04:21 AM  

hubiestubert: AdmirableSnackbar: hubiestubert: It is important, and I'm fair certain it's in the pipe already, but there's a lot to fix after The Tangerine Dream, and a lot of obstructionists, if not straight out saboteurs, to root out.

This is always the excuse for everything that the administration and Congress aren't doing. There is a lot of work to be done on a lot of fronts and they're not really doing any of it. If there were some progress on one front that we could point to and say "there, at least that's being done and done well" then that would be one thing.

But nobody's being held accountable for organizing and funding the 1/6 insurrection, our concentration camps are full, the wall is still being built, Black people are still being lynched by cops, we're still having multiple daily mass shootings, even stroke-of-the-pen shiat like forgiving student loans and de-scheduling cannabis are nowhere to be found.

At some point, "there's a lot to be done on a lot of fronts" is no longer an acceptable excuse for nothing being done on any front.

So, what's Biden supposed to do? Wave a magic wand? Declare racism dead? Disband every municipal police department? Execute anyone who worked during the former Administration?

I get that folks are impatient, but he's been in office only four months.


Four months and dealing with a pandemic that had been completely mishandled.

But the important thing is that from the first day some media started complaining that Biden had not fixed the problems with holding unaccompanied minors, his admin agreed that the situation is unacceptable and things needed to change ASAP.

The Trumper garbage told us that it was all fine and that if children didn't want to be ripped from their parents and put in cages, that they should had stayed in Mexico. And that the cages weren't so bad, the accommodations were like a summer camp, so no changes needed. But BSAB, so vote republican.
 
2021-04-13 10:04:24 AM  

EyeballKid: [rall.com image 720x548]We're still in panel one, I see, slowly transitioning to panel two.


Did you hijack my uncle's facebook feed?
 
2021-04-13 10:04:51 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: Biden said he was prepared on day one. Why hasn't he solved climate change, cancer, drug addiction and achieved peace in the middle east?

Total fraud. Just like 0bama.


What you say in jest... snackbar says in all seriousness....
 
2021-04-13 10:05:52 AM  

SirGunslinger: AdmirableSnackbar: hubiestubert: It is important, and I'm fair certain it's in the pipe already, but there's a lot to fix after The Tangerine Dream, and a lot of obstructionists, if not straight out saboteurs, to root out.

This is always the excuse for everything that the administration and Congress aren't doing. There is a lot of work to be done on a lot of fronts and they're not really doing any of it. If there were some progress on one front that we could point to and say "there, at least that's being done and done well" then that would be one thing.

But nobody's being held accountable for organizing and funding the 1/6 insurrection, our concentration camps are full, the wall is still being built, Black people are still being lynched by cops, we're still having multiple daily mass shootings, even stroke-of-the-pen shiat like forgiving student loans and de-scheduling cannabis are nowhere to be found.

At some point, "there's a lot to be done on a lot of fronts" is no longer an acceptable excuse for nothing being done on any front.

So Biden should act with more authority and take unilateral action? That sounds like the strategy for making a Democracy healthier!


Biden should do whatever he can within the power of his office, yes. And yeah that would make our country healthier than inaction and continuing with Trump's (and W's and Reagan's and Nixon's) policies.
 
2021-04-13 10:06:18 AM  

sinner4ever: For months Biden "couldn't" do anything about the kids in cages. Then , like a miracle , he was able to start movement on it after it peaked and video was leaked.

Some people want you to believe it was all just a coincidence and not Biden being an uncaring racist until he got bad PR.


Jesus Christ must you prove on a daily basis you have no freaking clue what you're talking about...
 
2021-04-13 10:06:43 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: His whole argument for electing him was that he would be ready on day one to get started cleaning up after Trump.


He didn't need an argument.  He just needed to not be trump.
 
2021-04-13 10:06:50 AM  

BeansNfranks: I see the snackbar is open for trolling business...


Well he certainly not capable of anything else....

I'm just imagining his man cave covered entirely with Bernie Sanders posters...
 
2021-04-13 10:07:27 AM  

cocozilla: Peter von Nostrand: Biden said he was prepared on day one. Why hasn't he solved climate change, cancer, drug addiction and achieved peace in the middle east?

Total fraud. Just like 0bama.

What you say in jest... snackbar says in all seriousness....


Not at all. I'm not expecting them all to be solved already. It's not unfair to see actions in motion to solve these problems. Or is it? I guess it must be unfair, expecting our government to actually do things to solve problems. If they do nothing for long enough the problems will just solve themselves, right?
 
2021-04-13 10:09:21 AM  

AcneVulgaris: AdmirableSnackbar: His whole argument for electing him was that he would be ready on day one to get started cleaning up after Trump.

He didn't need an argument.  He just needed to not be trump.


For those who were so privileged that their only concerning matter of the election was "Yay, Blue Team," that is true.
 
2021-04-13 10:10:33 AM  

hubiestubert: Back in the real world, plans take time to implement.


Has he even proposed a new plan?

I think his absolute lack of a plan is what Democrats are biatching about.
 
2021-04-13 10:10:57 AM  

misanthropicsob: hubiestubert: Back in the real world, plans take time to implement.

Has he even proposed a new plan?

I think his absolute lack of a plan is what Democrats are biatching about.


Expecting plans is now a purity test.
 
2021-04-13 10:11:04 AM  

rewind2846: "In recent weeks, the Biden administration has had to rely on pop-up sites, including an influx facility in Carrizo Springs, Texas, to keep up with the sheer number of unaccompanied children arriving at the US southern border."

Okay, so what is he supposed to do?


Hmmmm... if only there where bunches of hotel rooms, empty due to most people staying home because of some kind of global pandemic, that such people might be temporarily sheltered in, rather than these sites that probably have all the charm of a hospital if not a prison for the people put into them. 

But nah, I'm sure no hotel owners or managers would want that kind if influx of government money during an economic downturn due to some sort of global pandemic or anything. 

Better put the kids in cages, pop up sites then. Wouldn't want to treat them like people deserving of aid and comfort now, would we?
 
2021-04-13 10:11:25 AM  

quatchi: Biden *is* addressing the issues and the squad *are* right to want more to be done.

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Is he?
 
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