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2021-04-13 8:56:37 PM  
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2021-04-13 8:57:24 PM  
Fark the FSF. Seriously, that's the shiattiest response I could imagine - "we missed his wisdom" - as a defense. "We're willing to accept his scumbaggery if he'll keep helping us with our agenda" is a rough rationalization. This isn't the space program.
 
2021-04-13 9:07:26 PM  
Let me get this straight. A bunch of people who think charging for software is evil are ok with actual rape.
 
2021-04-13 9:12:01 PM  
How much you wanna bet this guy owns a thesaurus?
 
2021-04-13 9:22:21 PM  
Fake GNUs
 
2021-04-13 9:34:23 PM  
If sex with a 17 year old is so bad maybe more states should make it illegal. There are 40 US states where the age of consent is lower than 18 without age gap restrictions.

If the internet actually cares about the victims they should focus some of that outrage in closing that loophole.
 
2021-04-13 9:36:12 PM  

FormlessOne: Fark the FSF. Seriously, that's the shiattiest response I could imagine - "we missed his wisdom" - as a defense. "We're willing to accept his scumbaggery if he'll keep helping us with our agenda" is a rough rationalization. This isn't the space program.


This is the exact same argument being used by Joss Whedon and JK Rowling fans and anyone who wants to separate "the art from the artist" or maybe more appropriately "the free software wisdom from the free software wise man."

This wasn't "scumbaggery," this was an egomaniac being an egomaniac.  He thought the world needed his wisdom on how Epstein and his clientele operated in the same way they needed his wisdom on free software.
 
2021-04-13 9:42:51 PM  

Outlawtsar: FormlessOne: Fark the FSF. Seriously, that's the shiattiest response I could imagine - "we missed his wisdom" - as a defense. "We're willing to accept his scumbaggery if he'll keep helping us with our agenda" is a rough rationalization. This isn't the space program.

This is the exact same argument being used by Joss Whedon and JK Rowling fans and anyone who wants to separate "the art from the artist" or maybe more appropriately "the free software wisdom from the free software wise man."

This wasn't "scumbaggery," this was an egomaniac being an egomaniac.  He thought the world needed his wisdom on how Epstein and his clientele operated in the same way they needed his wisdom on free software.


I don't subscribe to any of those arguments, which is why you won't find me bolstering Joss Whedon or JK Rowling, either.

And, yeah, it's scumbaggery.
 
2021-04-13 9:45:09 PM  
Companies that have anti-discrimination policies typically don't set them aside because, sure, the guy's a racist, but he's reeeeeally valuable, so we'll make an exception for his "wisdom."

The FSF needs to make it clear that there's zero tolerance for this kind of bullshiat.
 
2021-04-13 11:40:31 PM  
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2021-04-14 12:16:53 AM  
I respect the computer intellect of RMS. I still use a couple of his programs daily, and my current career wouldn't exist without his foundational work.

That being said, to Hell with that guy.
 
2021-04-14 1:40:47 AM  

Outlawtsar: FormlessOne: Fark the FSF. Seriously, that's the shiattiest response I could imagine - "we missed his wisdom" - as a defense. "We're willing to accept his scumbaggery if he'll keep helping us with our agenda" is a rough rationalization. This isn't the space program.

This is the exact same argument being used by Joss Whedon and JK Rowling fans and anyone who wants to separate "the art from the artist" or maybe more appropriately "the free software wisdom from the free software wise man."

This wasn't "scumbaggery," this was an egomaniac being an egomaniac.  He thought the world needed his wisdom on how Epstein and his clientele operated in the same way they needed his wisdom on free software.


Well between him and you there's only one guy who's a certified genius, so forgive me if I care more about what he says than what you say.
 
2021-04-14 2:24:51 AM  
To understand the context, here is a passage from Stallman's personal website advocating sex for children under the age of 14.

> I think that everyone age 14 or above ought to take part in sex, though not indiscriminately. (Some people are ready earlier.) It is unnatural for humans to abstain from sex past puberty, and while I wouldn't try to pressure anyone to participate, I certainly encourage everyone to do so.

-- Stallman, May 25, 2003. Retrieved April 13, 2021
 
2021-04-14 2:26:30 AM  

caguru: If sex with a 17 year old is so bad maybe more states should make it illegal. There are 40 US states where the age of consent is lower than 18 without age gap restrictions.

If the internet actually cares about the victims they should focus some of that outrage in closing that loophole.


Stallman's personal website says that some children who are under the age of 14 are ready for sex. Do you think any 13 year old should be sexually active?
 
2021-04-14 3:18:32 AM  

Grauenwolf: caguru: If sex with a 17 year old is so bad maybe more states should make it illegal. There are 40 US states where the age of consent is lower than 18 without age gap restrictions.

If the internet actually cares about the victims they should focus some of that outrage in closing that loophole.

Stallman's personal website says that some children who are under the age of 14 are ready for sex. Do you think any 13 year old should be sexually active?


Horses, chickens, dogs, elephants, monkeys, flatworms.... Sure.
Humans? No.
 
2021-04-14 5:54:12 AM  
Guy known for controversial opinions was fired for an opinion, then rehired and everyone has an opinion about it.

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2021-04-14 11:57:32 AM  

FormlessOne: Outlawtsar: FormlessOne: Fark the FSF. Seriously, that's the shiattiest response I could imagine - "we missed his wisdom" - as a defense. "We're willing to accept his scumbaggery if he'll keep helping us with our agenda" is a rough rationalization. This isn't the space program.

This is the exact same argument being used by Joss Whedon and JK Rowling fans and anyone who wants to separate "the art from the artist" or maybe more appropriately "the free software wisdom from the free software wise man."

This wasn't "scumbaggery," this was an egomaniac being an egomaniac.  He thought the world needed his wisdom on how Epstein and his clientele operated in the same way they needed his wisdom on free software.

I don't subscribe to any of those arguments, which is why you won't find me bolstering Joss Whedon or JK Rowling, either.

And, yeah, it's scumbaggery.


Here's another example of why "separating the art from the artist" is utter farking shash.

For years, the Boston Police kept a secret: the union president was an alleged child molester.

I mean, sure, he not only molested kids for years, but continued to molest five more even after the cops knew full well that he was a kiddie-diddler, but, hey, HE DID GREAT WORK, RIGHT?!

Assholes.
 
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