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2021-04-12 9:35:11 PM  
A sale on high quality digital cinema equipment will surely not ensue.
 
2021-04-12 10:09:45 PM  

Wanebo: A sale on high quality digital cinema equipment will surely not ensue.


We installed a home theater last year (partially because I'm a film nut), and that has paid its dividends. We used to go to the movies 2 or 3 times a month. I miss the theater, but I'm glad we have something at home in its stead.
 
2021-04-13 6:48:11 AM  
Industry insiders believe this isn't the end of the road for the theaters

It may not be the end but you can see it beginning to form on the far side of your 70 inch flat screen with sonos surround.

I love going to the movies, we have an Alamo drafthouse down the street--hope they come back, but not betting my 401k on movie theatres.
 
2021-04-13 9:21:43 AM  
We have Trump to thank for this.
 
2021-04-13 9:25:07 AM  
What's that? I can enjoy a month of new releases at home, for half the price of a single movie ticket, without having to deal with overpriced, poorly-handled snacks in a filthy seat surrounded by phone-wielding, shiat-talking assholes that might actually be armed?

Yeah. I have no idea why the theater business model is failing in a society full of self-absorbed, belligerently ignorant assholes & ubiquitous content delivery technology.
 
2021-04-13 9:43:27 AM  
99% of people who claim they have a "home theater" that beats cinema are full of crap.  They may like it, but a 70" uncalibrated Vizio streaming 4klite and playing on a 200 watt wireless 4.1 soundbar is not equivalent.

It's a shame that people who value laziness and poor quality convenience will end up ending the experience for those of us who enjoy actual immersive spectacle AV.
 
2021-04-13 9:46:37 AM  
Most Americans really are like Frito in Idiocracy.
 
2021-04-13 9:48:07 AM  

FormlessOne: What's that? I can enjoy a month of new releases at home, for half the price of a single movie ticket, without having to deal with overpriced, poorly-handled snacks in a filthy seat surrounded by phone-wielding, shiat-talking assholes that might actually be armed?

Yeah. I have no idea why the theater business model is failing in a society full of self-absorbed, belligerently ignorant assholes & ubiquitous content delivery technology.


If anyone deserves the blame for the current failure of the theater model, it's the studios. They're demands for the percentage of revenue force theaters to charge absurd prices for the most basic of concessions, driving traffic away because it adds to what can already be a negative experience for visitors.
 
2021-04-13 10:03:23 AM  

Leader O'Cola: 99% of people who claim they have a "home theater" that beats cinema are full of crap.  They may like it, but a 70" uncalibrated Vizio streaming 4klite and playing on a 200 watt wireless 4.1 soundbar is not equivalent.

It's a shame that people who value laziness and poor quality convenience will end up ending the experience for those of us who enjoy actual immersive spectacle AV.


I am sure there are exceptions, but there are an awful lot of commercial theaters that are also running with subpar configuration. Digital setups are likely simpler to maintain, but I don't expect the manager who has to mop the bathrooms multiple times a month is an expert. And keeping an old lamp longer than its rated hours saves a lot of money.
 
2021-04-13 10:03:59 AM  
Losing the Cinerama Dome is f'ing terrible. I hope Amazon or Netflix step in to keep it a first run movie house with occasional wide screen epic festivals.

More likely it will become the Old Navy flagship store.
 
2021-04-13 10:11:08 AM  
The deadline article seemed to indicate that the company wasn't folding and there was a possibility the landlords would give keys back to Pacific. I really hope so, Arclights are fantastic, even outside of the Cinerama.
 
2021-04-13 10:14:45 AM  

OccamsWhiskers: Leader O'Cola: 99% of people who claim they have a "home theater" that beats cinema are full of crap.  They may like it, but a 70" uncalibrated Vizio streaming 4klite and playing on a 200 watt wireless 4.1 soundbar is not equivalent.

It's a shame that people who value laziness and poor quality convenience will end up ending the experience for those of us who enjoy actual immersive spectacle AV.

I am sure there are exceptions, but there are an awful lot of commercial theaters that are also running with subpar configuration. Digital setups are likely simpler to maintain, but I don't expect the manager who has to mop the bathrooms multiple times a month is an expert. And keeping an old lamp longer than its rated hours saves a lot of money.


And another thing that used to grind my gears is audio spillover in theaters. We find the fancy sound systems are mostly about being goddam farking loud, so if there are any big sounds for the screen next door, you get those inserted to your experience too. Many venues I've been in were so poorly insulated that you could even hear big audience laughter in adjacent auditoriums.
 
2021-04-13 10:16:51 AM  

uksocal: The deadline article seemed to indicate that the company wasn't folding and there was a possibility the landlords would give keys back to Pacific. I really hope so, Arclights are fantastic, even outside of the Cinerama.


Yeah some indications this might be a negotiating tactic to get a lease reduction. For malls, a boarded up theater is a devastating lose in revenue and foot traffic.
 
2021-04-13 10:20:14 AM  

jayphat: FormlessOne: What's that? I can enjoy a month of new releases at home, for half the price of a single movie ticket, without having to deal with overpriced, poorly-handled snacks in a filthy seat surrounded by phone-wielding, shiat-talking assholes that might actually be armed?

Yeah. I have no idea why the theater business model is failing in a society full of self-absorbed, belligerently ignorant assholes & ubiquitous content delivery technology.

If anyone deserves the blame for the current failure of the theater model, it's the studios. They're demands for the percentage of revenue force theaters to charge absurd prices for the most basic of concessions, driving traffic away because it adds to what can already be a negative experience for visitors.


It's a 55/45 split, that's a really good deal for theaters that don't have to front any money for the product they show. It's also the reason that theaters won't survive the digital streaming changes. independent theaters might, but chains won't survive.

As to the movie watching experience, ever been to a theater that has the sound too loud, or dim bulbs or screens in disrepair? How about having children running in the aisles because their shiatty parents brought them to an adult movie? Hell, once on a date a little kid was doing that and then decided to pull my date's hair, hard, from behind the seats.

Eff that. I'll watch at home on a smaller screen to avoid all of that.
 
2021-04-13 10:21:40 AM  

Leader O'Cola: 99% of people who claim they have a "home theater" that beats cinema are full of crap.  They may like it, but a 70" uncalibrated Vizio streaming 4klite and playing on a 200 watt wireless 4.1 soundbar is not equivalent.

It's a shame that people who value laziness and poor quality convenience will end up ending the experience for those of us who enjoy actual immersive spectacle AV.


You'll get over it.
 
2021-04-13 10:24:21 AM  

OccamsWhiskers: Leader O'Cola: 99% of people who claim they have a "home theater" that beats cinema are full of crap.  They may like it, but a 70" uncalibrated Vizio streaming 4klite and playing on a 200 watt wireless 4.1 soundbar is not equivalent.

It's a shame that people who value laziness and poor quality convenience will end up ending the experience for those of us who enjoy actual immersive spectacle AV.

I am sure there are exceptions, but there are an awful lot of commercial theaters that are also running with subpar configuration. Digital setups are likely simpler to maintain, but I don't expect the manager who has to mop the bathrooms multiple times a month is an expert. And keeping an old lamp longer than its rated hours saves a lot of money.


While you're right to some degree.... I guess my point is that i don't want to lose the good ones.   I have a legit (but mediocre) HT with 150" screen, theater seats at visually resolved 4k distance,, 9.4 sound, pro calibration, controlled lighting, etc.  It's still not the same, even though I love it. I was going ex or 4x a month until the pandemic.   I hear friends /family subwoofers make their little silent fart rattle sounds at a 30 hZ sound and laugh. Or laugh when they watch 4k from 15 feet away.  Sad. Oh well.
 
2021-04-13 10:27:33 AM  
all thank's too galvin newsome
 
2021-04-13 10:28:22 AM  
I go straight into judgement mode whenever someone starts to wax poetic about the all-holy movie theater. AT BEST, the experience is tolerable, with $10+ tickets, dirty theaters, larcenously-overpriced drinks (and don't try to bring your own), and other movie-goers who haven't developed their prefrontal cortexes yet. If the only way you can enjoy the cinema is with an 800-watt sound system and 3D goggles, you don't like movies; you like spectacle and noise and shiat getin' blowed up.

I'm sure teens will find another place to fingerbang while a plane full of nitroglycerin crashes into an orphanage. And I'll watch my movie at home, in my pajamas, and not miss any of it.
 
2021-04-13 10:36:24 AM  
"GOOD! I HATE PEOPLE AND MY TV IS SO MUCH...."

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2021-04-13 10:44:40 AM  
Arclight was roughly twice the price as the AMC in the mall. The seats were way more comfortable, the sound was better, and there were only three, THREE trailers before the actual movie. Sometimes, that was worth every farking penny.

Fun fact: I had to drive under this train station to go see Captain Marvel at the nearby Arclight. The theater started laughing.
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2021-04-13 11:07:36 AM  

floor: Losing the Cinerama Dome is f'ing terrible. I hope Amazon or Netflix step in to keep it a first run movie house with occasional wide screen epic festivals.

More likely it will become the Old Navy flagship store.


It's going to be interesting to see what happens with that stretch of Sunset. With Amoeba having moved to a new location and now no Arclight and Cinerama Dome, that leaves a lot of room for the kind of monstrous development that's going on all over L.A. these days.
 
2021-04-13 11:08:18 AM  
Drive Ins should make a comeback.

We have one locally and for decades there is always a line 50 cars long in the hours leading to the gates opening.

Sure it can be a seasonal operation depending on geography, but it's a great experience.
 
2021-04-13 11:19:00 AM  

CaptainFatass: floor: Losing the Cinerama Dome is f'ing terrible. I hope Amazon or Netflix step in to keep it a first run movie house with occasional wide screen epic festivals.

More likely it will become the Old Navy flagship store.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens with that stretch of Sunset. With Amoeba having moved to a new location and now no Arclight and Cinerama Dome, that leaves a lot of room for the kind of monstrous development that's going on all over L.A. these days.


The rest of the retail there will really suffer. The area needs destination attraction/shopping to keep the foot traffic. The locals can't sustain the current retail.
 
2021-04-13 11:26:54 AM  

phimuskapsi: jayphat: FormlessOne: What's that? I can enjoy a month of new releases at home, for half the price of a single movie ticket, without having to deal with overpriced, poorly-handled snacks in a filthy seat surrounded by phone-wielding, shiat-talking assholes that might actually be armed?

Yeah. I have no idea why the theater business model is failing in a society full of self-absorbed, belligerently ignorant assholes & ubiquitous content delivery technology.

If anyone deserves the blame for the current failure of the theater model, it's the studios. They're demands for the percentage of revenue force theaters to charge absurd prices for the most basic of concessions, driving traffic away because it adds to what can already be a negative experience for visitors.

It's a 55/45 split, that's a really good deal for theaters that don't have to front any money for the product they show. It's also the reason that theaters won't survive the digital streaming changes. independent theaters might, but chains won't survive.

As to the movie watching experience, ever been to a theater that has the sound too loud, or dim bulbs or screens in disrepair? How about having children running in the aisles because their shiatty parents brought them to an adult movie? Hell, once on a date a little kid was doing that and then decided to pull my date's hair, hard, from behind the seats.

Eff that. I'll watch at home on a smaller screen to avoid all of that.


What? AAA titles are known to go 90/10 for the first weeks of runtime. That's a TERRIBLE deal.
 
2021-04-13 11:33:53 AM  

jayphat: phimuskapsi: jayphat: FormlessOne: What's that? I can enjoy a month of new releases at home, for half the price of a single movie ticket, without having to deal with overpriced, poorly-handled snacks in a filthy seat surrounded by phone-wielding, shiat-talking assholes that might actually be armed?

Yeah. I have no idea why the theater business model is failing in a society full of self-absorbed, belligerently ignorant assholes & ubiquitous content delivery technology.

If anyone deserves the blame for the current failure of the theater model, it's the studios. They're demands for the percentage of revenue force theaters to charge absurd prices for the most basic of concessions, driving traffic away because it adds to what can already be a negative experience for visitors.

It's a 55/45 split, that's a really good deal for theaters that don't have to front any money for the product they show. It's also the reason that theaters won't survive the digital streaming changes. independent theaters might, but chains won't survive.

As to the movie watching experience, ever been to a theater that has the sound too loud, or dim bulbs or screens in disrepair? How about having children running in the aisles because their shiatty parents brought them to an adult movie? Hell, once on a date a little kid was doing that and then decided to pull my date's hair, hard, from behind the seats.

Eff that. I'll watch at home on a smaller screen to avoid all of that.

What? AAA titles are known to go 90/10 for the first weeks of runtime. That's a TERRIBLE deal.


Back in my day, there were AAA titles that went for 100+/-x for the first weeks. But I think that's changed for a while now, and it may be a more viable split even for the most desired releases.
 
2021-04-13 11:41:57 AM  

jayphat: phimuskapsi: jayphat: FormlessOne: What's that? I can enjoy a month of new releases at home, for half the price of a single movie ticket, without having to deal with overpriced, poorly-handled snacks in a filthy seat surrounded by phone-wielding, shiat-talking assholes that might actually be armed?

Yeah. I have no idea why the theater business model is failing in a society full of self-absorbed, belligerently ignorant assholes & ubiquitous content delivery technology.

If anyone deserves the blame for the current failure of the theater model, it's the studios. They're demands for the percentage of revenue force theaters to charge absurd prices for the most basic of concessions, driving traffic away because it adds to what can already be a negative experience for visitors.

It's a 55/45 split, that's a really good deal for theaters that don't have to front any money for the product they show. It's also the reason that theaters won't survive the digital streaming changes. independent theaters might, but chains won't survive.

As to the movie watching experience, ever been to a theater that has the sound too loud, or dim bulbs or screens in disrepair? How about having children running in the aisles because their shiatty parents brought them to an adult movie? Hell, once on a date a little kid was doing that and then decided to pull my date's hair, hard, from behind the seats.

Eff that. I'll watch at home on a smaller screen to avoid all of that.

What? AAA titles are known to go 90/10 for the first weeks of runtime. That's a TERRIBLE deal.


Hasn't been that way for decades
 
2021-04-13 11:48:12 AM  

CaptainFatass: floor: Losing the Cinerama Dome is f'ing terrible. I hope Amazon or Netflix step in to keep it a first run movie house with occasional wide screen epic festivals.

More likely it will become the Old Navy flagship store.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens with that stretch of Sunset. With Amoeba having moved to a new location and now no Arclight and Cinerama Dome, that leaves a lot of room for the kind of monstrous development that's going on all over L.A. these days.


Wait.  Amoeba moved?  I knew they closed, but hadn't heard that they were moving locales.
 
2021-04-13 11:50:04 AM  

Fabric_Man: I go straight into judgement mode whenever someone starts to wax poetic about the all-holy movie theater. AT BEST, the experience is tolerable, with $10+ tickets, dirty theaters, larcenously-overpriced drinks (and don't try to bring your own), and other movie-goers who haven't developed their prefrontal cortexes yet. If the only way you can enjoy the cinema is with an 800-watt sound system and 3D goggles, you don't like movies; you like spectacle and noise and shiat getin' blowed up.

I'm sure teens will find another place to fingerbang while a plane full of nitroglycerin crashes into an orphanage. And I'll watch my movie at home, in my pajamas, and not miss any of it.


Wanna know how I know you've never been to an Arclight?
 
2021-04-13 11:51:21 AM  

mjbok: jayphat: phimuskapsi: jayphat: FormlessOne: What's that? I can enjoy a month of new releases at home, for half the price of a single movie ticket, without having to deal with overpriced, poorly-handled snacks in a filthy seat surrounded by phone-wielding, shiat-talking assholes that might actually be armed?

Yeah. I have no idea why the theater business model is failing in a society full of self-absorbed, belligerently ignorant assholes & ubiquitous content delivery technology.

If anyone deserves the blame for the current failure of the theater model, it's the studios. They're demands for the percentage of revenue force theaters to charge absurd prices for the most basic of concessions, driving traffic away because it adds to what can already be a negative experience for visitors.

It's a 55/45 split, that's a really good deal for theaters that don't have to front any money for the product they show. It's also the reason that theaters won't survive the digital streaming changes. independent theaters might, but chains won't survive.

As to the movie watching experience, ever been to a theater that has the sound too loud, or dim bulbs or screens in disrepair? How about having children running in the aisles because their shiatty parents brought them to an adult movie? Hell, once on a date a little kid was doing that and then decided to pull my date's hair, hard, from behind the seats.

Eff that. I'll watch at home on a smaller screen to avoid all of that.

What? AAA titles are known to go 90/10 for the first weeks of runtime. That's a TERRIBLE deal.

Hasn't been that way for decades


Really? Cause I can distinctly remember articles about the recent Marvel movies being 95/5, and that's in the last 4 years.
 
2021-04-13 12:00:40 PM  

Fabric_Man: I go straight into judgement mode whenever someone starts to wax poetic about the all-holy movie theater. AT BEST, the experience is tolerable, with $10+ tickets, dirty theaters, larcenously-overpriced drinks (and don't try to bring your own), and other movie-goers who haven't developed their prefrontal cortexes yet. If the only way you can enjoy the cinema is with an 800-watt sound system and 3D goggles, you don't like movies; you like spectacle and noise and shiat getin' blowed up.

I'm sure teens will find another place to fingerbang while a plane full of nitroglycerin crashes into an orphanage. And I'll watch my movie at home, in my pajamas, and not miss any of it.


Movie theatres are like concert venues. Sure, you can listen to music by yourself in the comfort of your own home, but there is something special about getting a bunch of your friends together in a place to watch a movie you can all enjoy. Its doubly more important for film festivals, as I know folks who work in independent film and getting their movies to screen in an actual movie theatre is a big frikkin deal.

If anything this might mean that movie theatres will become more niche and rare, they sure as hell won't go away completely.
 
2021-04-13 12:02:29 PM  

jayphat: mjbok: jayphat: phimuskapsi: jayphat: FormlessOne: What's that? I can enjoy a month of new releases at home, for half the price of a single movie ticket, without having to deal with overpriced, poorly-handled snacks in a filthy seat surrounded by phone-wielding, shiat-talking assholes that might actually be armed?

Yeah. I have no idea why the theater business model is failing in a society full of self-absorbed, belligerently ignorant assholes & ubiquitous content delivery technology.

If anyone deserves the blame for the current failure of the theater model, it's the studios. They're demands for the percentage of revenue force theaters to charge absurd prices for the most basic of concessions, driving traffic away because it adds to what can already be a negative experience for visitors.

It's a 55/45 split, that's a really good deal for theaters that don't have to front any money for the product they show. It's also the reason that theaters won't survive the digital streaming changes. independent theaters might, but chains won't survive.

As to the movie watching experience, ever been to a theater that has the sound too loud, or dim bulbs or screens in disrepair? How about having children running in the aisles because their shiatty parents brought them to an adult movie? Hell, once on a date a little kid was doing that and then decided to pull my date's hair, hard, from behind the seats.

Eff that. I'll watch at home on a smaller screen to avoid all of that.

What? AAA titles are known to go 90/10 for the first weeks of runtime. That's a TERRIBLE deal.

Hasn't been that way for decades

Really? Cause I can distinctly remember articles about the recent Marvel movies being 95/5, and that's in the last 4 years.


You can find several news articles from 4 years ago about Disney wanting 65% for the new Star Wars movies.

Perhaps that's what your remembering.
 
2021-04-13 12:02:56 PM  

Leader O'Cola: 99% of people who claim they have a "home theater" that beats cinema are full of crap.  They may like it, but a 70" uncalibrated Vizio streaming 4klite and playing on a 200 watt wireless 4.1 soundbar is not equivalent.


And for 99% of casual at-home movie-goers, that is more than acceptable. It's not like a TV with a few more pictures or speakers with a few more watts changes the story of the movie.
 
2021-04-13 12:03:55 PM  
I saw the original Star Wars at the Cinerama Dome.

Yes, I'm old.
 
2021-04-13 12:25:38 PM  
I won't really miss them. Theaters are either full of aggravating dumbasses who don't shut up or put their phones away, or they're ungodly expensive Premium Movie Experiences. I'd rather spend the $20 to rent a new release and not have to deal with any of that.

If we're looking to revive obsolete entertainment venues, can we get arcades back in the mainstream? Those were so much cooler.
 
2021-04-13 12:28:07 PM  

xalres: I won't really miss them. Theaters are either full of aggravating dumbasses who don't shut up or put their phones away, or they're ungodly expensive Premium Movie Experiences. I'd rather spend the $20 to rent a new release and not have to deal with any of that.

If we're looking to revive obsolete entertainment venues, can we get arcades back in the mainstream? Those were so much cooler.


"Man, I hate these modern games w/ their goddamn microtransactions!"
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2021-04-13 12:35:10 PM  

Trocadero: xalres: I won't really miss them. Theaters are either full of aggravating dumbasses who don't shut up or put their phones away, or they're ungodly expensive Premium Movie Experiences. I'd rather spend the $20 to rent a new release and not have to deal with any of that.

If we're looking to revive obsolete entertainment venues, can we get arcades back in the mainstream? Those were so much cooler.

"Man, I hate these modern games w/ their goddamn microtransactions!"
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LOL yeah. Old arcade games were fun but they were designed to hoover your quarters. I remember there were games towards the mid/late 90s where you could buy power ups with more quarters.

/A true nerd would have used the Ghosts n' Goblins title screen.
//kidding
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2021-04-13 12:43:08 PM  
It's too bad that there aren't wealthy people in the film industry that could help out.
 
2021-04-13 1:00:29 PM  

CarnySaur: It's too bad that there aren't wealthy people in the film industry that could help out.


I was thinking it'd be cool if some of these cinephile filmmakers/producers got together to preserve these places, it'd certainly be relevant to their interests.
 
2021-04-13 1:05:08 PM  

CarnySaur: It's too bad that there aren't wealthy people in the film industry that could help out.


This just got announced.  For all we know there are several film people already making inquiries.  I wouldn't be surprised to hear something within a week.

The Dome is on the Register of Historic Places, so that's safe, but what about the surrounding buildings?  I can't see any developer scrapping all that.

My wife and I live literally 3 blocks away.  We go there all the time, to see new films and special screenings.  We saw Tim Roth introduce the HULK film he was in, and saw IT'S A MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD.  We even go just to eat at their restaurant, because the energy of the movie-goers is fun to be around (and the food is pretty good, too).  It's a place with a lot of history, I'm sure it's not going to stand empty for long.
 
2021-04-13 1:15:40 PM  
The Cinerama Dome won't go away. At least I hope not. I saw the new print of 2001 there and that was an experience and a half.
 
2021-04-13 1:26:23 PM  

Foxxinnia: The Cinerama Dome won't go away. At least I hope not. I saw the new print of 2001 there and that was an experience and a half.


Yeahp.

Go see Lawrence of Arabia in a big big BIG farking theater. The movie simply doesn't look as it should on anything else.
 
2021-04-13 1:52:12 PM  
I gave up going to cinemaplexes years ago. We have a second-run theatre near us with electric, leather reclining seats and $2 admission ($3 for 3D). But they recently reopened to show first-run films for $6, still about half that of the cinemaplex. Saw Godzilla vs Kong last week. Theatre was about half filled (as usual) and the recliners were heaven!
 
2021-04-13 2:16:47 PM  

Fabric_Man: I go straight into judgement mode whenever someone starts to wax poetic about the all-holy movie theater. AT BEST, the experience is tolerable, with $10+ tickets, dirty theaters, larcenously-overpriced drinks (and don't try to bring your own), and other movie-goers who haven't developed their prefrontal cortexes yet. If the only way you can enjoy the cinema is with an 800-watt sound system and 3D goggles, you don't like movies; you like spectacle and noise and shiat getin' blowed up.

I'm sure teens will find another place to fingerbang while a plane full of nitroglycerin crashes into an orphanage. And I'll watch my movie at home, in my pajamas, and not miss any of it.


...Sometimes I have to question where some of you people live that movie theaters are that horrible.
 
2021-04-13 2:28:16 PM  

jayphat: mjbok: jayphat: phimuskapsi: jayphat: FormlessOne: What's that? I can enjoy a month of new releases at home, for half the price of a single movie ticket, without having to deal with overpriced, poorly-handled snacks in a filthy seat surrounded by phone-wielding, shiat-talking assholes that might actually be armed?

Yeah. I have no idea why the theater business model is failing in a society full of self-absorbed, belligerently ignorant assholes & ubiquitous content delivery technology.

If anyone deserves the blame for the current failure of the theater model, it's the studios. They're demands for the percentage of revenue force theaters to charge absurd prices for the most basic of concessions, driving traffic away because it adds to what can already be a negative experience for visitors.

It's a 55/45 split, that's a really good deal for theaters that don't have to front any money for the product they show. It's also the reason that theaters won't survive the digital streaming changes. independent theaters might, but chains won't survive.

As to the movie watching experience, ever been to a theater that has the sound too loud, or dim bulbs or screens in disrepair? How about having children running in the aisles because their shiatty parents brought them to an adult movie? Hell, once on a date a little kid was doing that and then decided to pull my date's hair, hard, from behind the seats.

Eff that. I'll watch at home on a smaller screen to avoid all of that.

What? AAA titles are known to go 90/10 for the first weeks of runtime. That's a TERRIBLE deal.

Hasn't been that way for decades

Really? Cause I can distinctly remember articles about the recent Marvel movies being 95/5, and that's in the last 4 years.

Historically, studios have been able to command the most favorable terms from theaters on their biggest hit films. Disney is no exception. It is expected to receive about 60% of the domestic box-office receipts on "Avengers," said people familiar with the terms. That is well above the industry average of 50%, but it's typical for a movie from any studio that grosses more than $500 million in the U.S. and Canada, as the new "Avengers" is sure to do. When studios hit a hot streak like the one Disney is currently enjoying, they can boost rates and terms even on films that aren't mega-blockbusters.

Disney's current rates were set two years ago during another difficult negotiation between the studio and theater owners during which some major chains stopped selling advance tickets for "Iron Man 3."


https://www.wsj.com/articles/disney-t​h​eater-operators-battle-over-new-avenge​rs-1430733601
 
2021-04-13 2:58:13 PM  

biscuitsngravy: CaptainFatass: floor: Losing the Cinerama Dome is f'ing terrible. I hope Amazon or Netflix step in to keep it a first run movie house with occasional wide screen epic festivals.

More likely it will become the Old Navy flagship store.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens with that stretch of Sunset. With Amoeba having moved to a new location and now no Arclight and Cinerama Dome, that leaves a lot of room for the kind of monstrous development that's going on all over L.A. these days.

Wait.  Amoeba moved?  I knew they closed, but hadn't heard that they were moving locales.


Amoeba is now on Hollywood Blvd. just east of the Pantages. They just opened the new location a week or two ago. I think it's right next to the Metro station.
 
2021-04-13 3:03:06 PM  
On the subject, the Arclight Hollywood was my go to movie place! I remember watching the Lord of the Rings Extended Editions there, Star Wars, old movies like Lawrence of Arabia, It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad world, Raiders of the Lost Ark, 2001, countless others. Great, fun place to be.

Hope it will start up again, California is completely opening up in a month or so and high on my list of things to do is to watch a film at a theater!!
 
2021-04-13 3:38:32 PM  
While there are ArcLights worth saving, the one in Manhattan Beach in LA, not so much. It was comparable to local AMC theaters with crappier chairs, carpet that had my allergies go off, and overpriced wine to go with $20 screenings of movies. And no "meet the crew" or "dining" options that other locations could boast.

Too bad the next door P.F. Chang's the Lakers and Kings players used to eat at after practices closed before the pandemic -- if it hadn't, I would like an AMC or whoever to take over the theater complex as it was a decent location before Arclight took over that Pacific Theater and upped the prices.
 
2021-04-13 3:46:18 PM  

TotallyHeadless: On the subject, the Arclight Hollywood was my go to movie place! I remember watching the Lord of the Rings Extended Editions there, Star Wars, old movies like Lawrence of Arabia, It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad world, Raiders of the Lost Ark, 2001, countless others. Great, fun place to be.

Hope it will start up again, California is completely opening up in a month or so and high on my list of things to do is to watch a film at a theater!!


To me it defines the difference between a home theater and a a movie experience. When The Road Warrior takes the audience from the narration to Max's car, at home it is a nice transition at the Cinerama Dome your being dropped into the passenger seat of the Pursuit Special.  In Lawrence of Arabia the cut from the match to the sun gives a jolt at the Dome, at home its OK.
 
2021-04-13 4:10:43 PM  

Fabric_Man: I go straight into judgement mode whenever someone starts to wax poetic about the all-holy movie theater. AT BEST, the experience is tolerable, with $10+ tickets, dirty theaters, larcenously-overpriced drinks (and don't try to bring your own), and other movie-goers who haven't developed their prefrontal cortexes yet. If the only way you can enjoy the cinema is with an 800-watt sound system and 3D goggles, you don't like movies; you like spectacle and noise and shiat getin' blowed up.

I'm sure teens will find another place to fingerbang while a plane full of nitroglycerin crashes into an orphanage. And I'll watch my movie at home, in my pajamas, and not miss any of it.


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2021-04-13 5:49:15 PM  
I wonder how a lot of the people who  *have to* take a piss/snack break during a 2 hour movie function at their jobs they certainly wouldn't have 100 years ago.
 
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