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(Axios)   Chauvin's lawyer tries to shield jury from news that police just shot an unarmed black man in the same neighborhood as Floyd, on the grounds that it looks really bad for the defense   (axios.com) divider line
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2021-04-12 8:02:54 PM  
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2021-04-12 8:07:42 PM  
And the judge isn't having any of it.
Good.
 
2021-04-12 8:08:24 PM  
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/awkward collar tug
 
2021-04-12 8:18:02 PM  
Does that make him a Chauvinist pig?
 
2021-04-12 8:45:04 PM  
That isn't anywhere close to being the same neighborhood. Or even the same city.
 
2021-04-12 9:20:31 PM  
Yeah disregard this happening every day.
 
2021-04-12 9:30:49 PM  
Look, I get that MN is flyover country and most people don't give a shiat about the geography of Twin Cities and the burbs but if Axios can get it straight, Fark can too. What happened in Brooklyn Center is tragic and could be the pin being pulled on the live grenade of the Chauvin trial. But saying it's the same neighborhood is almost incendiary in it's wrongness.
 
2021-04-12 9:33:24 PM  
I don't suppose that disrespecting the jury would win any hearts and minds for the defense.
 
2021-04-12 10:08:34 PM  

IgG4: Look, I get that MN is flyover country and most people don't give a shiat about the geography of Twin Cities and the burbs but if Axios can get it straight, Fark can too. What happened in Brooklyn Center is tragic and could be the pin being pulled on the live grenade of the Chauvin trial. But saying it's the same neighborhood is almost incendiary in it's wrongness.


Not defending the geographical neglect. But same media market, so pretty much same neighborhood as far as that goes. Different police force, different mayor, but the same local media coverage.
 
2021-04-12 10:11:22 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: IgG4: Look, I get that MN is flyover country and most people don't give a shiat about the geography of Twin Cities and the burbs but if Axios can get it straight, Fark can too. What happened in Brooklyn Center is tragic and could be the pin being pulled on the live grenade of the Chauvin trial. But saying it's the same neighborhood is almost incendiary in it's wrongness.

Not defending the geographical neglect. But same media market, so pretty much same neighborhood as far as that goes. Different police force, different mayor, but the same local media coverage.


That's... not what "neighborhood" means.
 
2021-04-12 10:11:49 PM  
Defense is taking it in the wrong direction .  Embrace it and use it as evidence Chauvin was acting normally.
 
2021-04-12 10:13:51 PM  

cretinbob: And the judge isn't having any of it.
Good.


But is it good to expose a jury to information that has no bearing on the case in question but is likely to influence them? That seems bad actually.
 
2021-04-12 10:16:02 PM  
Shouldn't that be a good thing for the defense?

"Cops are murdering innocent black people all the time around here. Why is my client being singled out?"
 
2021-04-12 10:18:06 PM  

BlazeTrailer: Defense is taking it in the wrong direction .  Embrace it and use it as evidence Chauvin was acting normally.


Last I saw they are saying she accidentally shot Wright with her gun rather than with her taser. The defense in this other case could say he thought he was kneeling on Floyd's leg.
 
2021-04-12 10:18:06 PM  
It's not materially related to the Chauvin case except that it's a police-involved shooting.  It's not the same city, not the same department, not close to the same circumstances.  The judge is right; life outside the courtroom goes on, and it has no bearing on the case itself.  It's not like this has been the first police murder since George Floyd - not even close.  Probably not even nearly the first in Minnesota.
 
2021-04-12 10:20:34 PM  
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2021-04-12 10:21:01 PM  

GrinzGrimly: cretinbob: And the judge isn't having any of it.
Good.

But is it good to expose a jury to information that has no bearing on the case in question but is likely to influence them? That seems bad actually.


You can't shield jurors from every officer-involved shooting of unarmed Black men. There are too many.
 
2021-04-12 10:22:50 PM  

buserror: Three Crooked Squirrels: IgG4: Look, I get that MN is flyover country and most people don't give a shiat about the geography of Twin Cities and the burbs but if Axios can get it straight, Fark can too. What happened in Brooklyn Center is tragic and could be the pin being pulled on the live grenade of the Chauvin trial. But saying it's the same neighborhood is almost incendiary in it's wrongness.

Not defending the geographical neglect. But same media market, so pretty much same neighborhood as far as that goes. Different police force, different mayor, but the same local media coverage.

That's... not what "neighborhood" means.


I didn't say it was. I just said same media market.
 
2021-04-12 10:23:12 PM  

IgG4: Look, I get that MN is flyover country and most people don't give a shiat about the geography of Twin Cities and the burbs but if Axios can get it straight, Fark can too. What happened in Brooklyn Center is tragic and could be the pin being pulled on the live grenade of the Chauvin trial. But saying it's the same neighborhood is almost incendiary in it's wrongness.


Depends on the reader. To someone in Bulgaria, the entire Midwest is one neighborhood. Just because you live close don't mean they are different areas to an outsider.
 
2021-04-12 10:23:14 PM  

IgG4: Look, I get that MN is flyover country and most people don't give a shiat about the geography of Twin Cities and the burbs but if Axios can get it straight, Fark can too. What happened in Brooklyn Center is tragic and could be the pin being pulled on the live grenade of the Chauvin trial. But saying it's the same neighborhood is almost incendiary in it's wrongness.


It's just one city man, they're not twins. It's like Raleigh-Durham. Nobody gives a shiat about your nonsensical boundaries.

//Prince sucks
 
2021-04-12 10:23:53 PM  
They didn't object to the juror that may have already been "contaminated" on Friday

He will probably use that, not having a location change and this in an appeal in the future.

At times I think he is going for the ineffective counsel thing or whatever it is, agreed
 
2021-04-12 10:24:43 PM  
There really has been way more then enough of this shooting crap going on in America.

One sign of this is that in Knoxville Tennessee, a local TV station covering one nearby mass shooting got confused and aired footage of ANOTHER completely different shooting in their broadcast.

Americans really need to step up and start resisting the illegal Republican invasion of their country.

https://www.rawstory.com/knoxville-sho​oting/
 
2021-04-12 10:25:19 PM  
I do worry that it gives the defense ammunition on appeal. It is rather obvious that a great many people are looking for a symbolic victory against police violence against people of color. Things that transform this into a symbolic verdict are against Chauvin's rights to a fair trial. Oh, he's guilty of murder and deserves the largest possible sentence, but that's about him, not about the history of policing in America.

I'm not immune to the symbolic significance but it turns out that this case needs to be decided upon the specific merits of this case, not the broader reality. So at some point the judge is going to have to instruct and question the jury about their ability to put aside any other current events. And some appellate court judge might question if that is significantly possible because who knows what judges think.
 
2021-04-12 10:26:14 PM  
I suspect he shot the guy just to go to get Chauvin a mistral.  Likewise, this judge is going to grant an appeal with a mea culpa vs sequestration failure should the defense ask for it, which they absolutely will.
 
2021-04-12 10:27:56 PM  
America, where unnecessary death equates to freedom-ish
 
2021-04-12 10:28:14 PM  
Isn't this good for the defense? They can go with everyone's been doing it, so it's not a big deal.
 
2021-04-12 10:28:58 PM  
Snipe kills Dumbledore
 
2021-04-12 10:29:31 PM  
This is actually really bad.  It gives the defense possible leverage in the appeals process.  The jury should be sequestered from any information unrelated to the case at hand that may sway their decision.
 
2021-04-12 10:30:14 PM  

IgG4: Look, I get that MN is flyover country and most people don't give a shiat about the geography of Twin Cities and the burbs but if Axios can get it straight, Fark can too. What happened in Brooklyn Center is tragic and could be the pin being pulled on the live grenade of the Chauvin trial. But saying it's the same neighborhood is almost incendiary in it's wrongness.


But it gives us that little squirt of outrage adrenaline we come here for.
 
2021-04-12 10:30:15 PM  
take yer lumps subby.  ya done fake news'd us
 
2021-04-12 10:30:28 PM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: I suspect he shot the guy just to go to get Chauvin a mistral.


Well there it is.

(also, "she".)
 
2021-04-12 10:31:20 PM  
That is a win for the defense, appeal on the grounds that the jury got prejudiced because they were worried about rioting and things.
 
2021-04-12 10:32:02 PM  

aperson: This is actually really bad.  It gives the defense possible leverage in the appeals process.  The jury should be sequestered from any information unrelated to the case at hand that may sway their decision.


Defense lawyers: "Other cop killed an innocent man, too. So... it happens a lot."

Potential appeals judge: "Your case has merit. We should let this murdering cop free."

What the fark is wrong with the American legal system?
 
2021-04-12 10:32:24 PM  
Most people just want to live out their lives in peace and happiness without the constant fear of being harmed. Is that too much to ask for from the police in the US?
 
2021-04-12 10:32:29 PM  

IgG4: Look, I get that MN is flyover country and most people don't give a shiat about the geography of Twin Cities and the burbs but if Axios can get it straight, Fark can too. What happened in Brooklyn Center is tragic and could be the pin being pulled on the live grenade of the Chauvin trial. But saying it's the same neighborhood is almost incendiary in it's wrongness.


incendiary?

Good Lord, learn some sense of proportion.
 
2021-04-12 10:33:04 PM  
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2021-04-12 10:33:56 PM  

El_Dan: That is a win for the defense, appeal on the grounds that the jury got prejudiced because they were worried about rioting and things.


And immediately get slapped down by the appeals court. Nice job.
 
2021-04-12 10:34:10 PM  
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2021-04-12 10:34:48 PM  

kayanlau: Most people just want to live out their lives in peace and happiness without the constant fear of being harmed. Is that too much to ask for from the police in the US?


Their job is literally to prevent certain people from living in peace and happiness.
 
2021-04-12 10:35:25 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: aperson: This is actually really bad.  It gives the defense possible leverage in the appeals process.  The jury should be sequestered from any information unrelated to the case at hand that may sway their decision.

Defense lawyers: "Other cop killed an innocent man, too. So... it happens a lot."

Potential appeals judge: "Your case has merit. We should let this murdering cop free."

What the fark is wrong with the American legal system?


More like this.
Defense lawyer: Jury saw the riots arising from the case in Brooklyn Center and feared for their safety if they returned a not guilty verdict.

Could be grounds for a new trial to give him another chance at a not-guilty verdict.  It's not the outcome I hope for, but it's one I think could be possible.
 
2021-04-12 10:35:43 PM  

moothemagiccow: IgG4: Look, I get that MN is flyover country and most people don't give a shiat about the geography of Twin Cities and the burbs but if Axios can get it straight, Fark can too. What happened in Brooklyn Center is tragic and could be the pin being pulled on the live grenade of the Chauvin trial. But saying it's the same neighborhood is almost incendiary in it's wrongness.

It's just one city man, they're not twins. It's like Raleigh-Durham. Nobody gives a shiat about your nonsensical boundaries.

//Prince sucks


You went too far.
 
2021-04-12 10:35:45 PM  

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I hope that's actually real.
 
2021-04-12 10:35:51 PM  
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2021-04-12 10:36:27 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: El_Dan: That is a win for the defense, appeal on the grounds that the jury got prejudiced because they were worried about rioting and things.

And immediately get slapped down by the appeals court. Nice job.


Maybe maybe not, appeals courts seem to take jury issues kind of seriously. And if not it's better than whatever else the defense has at the moment.
 
2021-04-12 10:36:37 PM  

Therion: backhand.slap.of.reason: I suspect he shot the guy just to go to get Chauvin a mistral.

Well there it is.

(also, "she".)


hell yeah, gender equality! equal pay for equal work!

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2021-04-12 10:37:33 PM  
The live feeds of the protests are wild, wonder if they will actually go down to the court house during the trial
 
2021-04-12 10:37:33 PM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: I suspect he shot the guy just to go to get Chauvin a mistral.  Likewise, this judge is going to grant an appeal with a mea culpa vs sequestration failure should the defense ask for it, which they absolutely will.


You remain special. She shot the guy because in the heat of the moment she drew her gun thinking it was her taser. And on her body cam she immediately says the equivalent of "oh shiat, I shot him". She completely screwed up but it was an unintended shooting. It was a FU of gigantic proportions.
 
2021-04-12 10:37:47 PM  

wxboy: It's not materially related to the Chauvin case except that it's a police-involved shooting.  It's not the same city, not the same department, not close to the same circumstances.  The judge is right; life outside the courtroom goes on, and it has no bearing on the case itself.  It's not like this has been the first police murder since George Floyd - not even close.  Probably not even nearly the first in Minnesota.


Different circumstances but Brooklyn Center is an immediate suburb, Minneapolis has a population of 300k but 3 million people work there during the day from the immediate suburbs. If shiat popped off in Robbinsdale it'd still be close enough. We aren't talking Fargo or Madison
 
2021-04-12 10:37:48 PM  

moothemagiccow: Therion: backhand.slap.of.reason: I suspect he shot the guy just to go to get Chauvin a mistral.

Well there it is.

(also, "she".)

hell yeah, gender equality! equal pay for equal work!

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wtf
 
2021-04-12 10:40:07 PM  
Chauvin's trial should be the first of thousands of murdering cops. There should be a cop trial every week until the murders stop.
 
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