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(Axios)   Ever put salt in your coffee instead of sugar? Or Preparation H on your toothbrush instead of toothpaste? Then you can totally understand how that police officer in MN "accidentally" shot an unarmed black man with his gun instead of his Taser   (axios.com) divider line
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2021-04-12 2:15:01 PM  
The "follow-up," "sad," "fail," and "facepalm" threads all wanted to be here too, but someone "accidentally"  got drunk and spilled beer on the servers.
 
2021-04-12 2:17:11 PM  
Time to redesign the Taser I guess.  Shape it like, I don't know, a dildo?
 
2021-04-12 2:17:45 PM  
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2021-04-12 2:21:19 PM  
Call me crazy but if you can't tell the difference between a taser and a gun just by the feel and weight, maybe you should find a different line of work than one where you can hold another person's life in your hands.
 
2021-04-12 2:22:49 PM  
Oscar Grant would like a word with you. Oh, wait, he dead. Killed by a police officer who tried this same defense.
 
2021-04-12 2:24:21 PM  
I'm a medical marijuana patient and I have an attention disorder. I don't make mistakes like that, possibly because I'm medicated but also because WTF THAT OFFICER IS OBVIOUSLY LYING!!

Sometimes my meds fade off and I make strange typing errors but that's it, I don't kill people and I don't drive if off of attention meds because I don't want to mess up and hurt others.

If it was a legitimate mistake, he ought to resign immediately and get a referral to a neurologist.
 
2021-04-12 2:25:56 PM  
Cops are way more important than the filthy citizens they have to clean up after, so it doesn't really matter if a few extra get killed here and there.  In fact it can help them fill quota.
 
2021-04-12 2:27:45 PM  
Video of the incident: https://www.youtube.com/wat​ch?v=A_KDyN​2HfsU

It looks to me like the rookie in question was pretty close to panicking. I don't question that this was a mistake on her part, but one does have to question the sufficiency of her training. Regardless, she's resigned (apparently as of January). It's unclear whether any charges are pending against her, although they probably should be. And you'd think the police would have dropped the charges against the man (which, yes, include battery on a police officer), but apparently not. Shocking.
 
2021-04-12 2:28:54 PM  
The police only use bullshiat, bad-faith excuses like that because the general public accepts them and allows police to keep doing shiat like this.
 
2021-04-12 2:29:22 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Video of the incident: https://www.youtube.com/watc​h?v=A_KDyN2HfsU

It looks to me like the rookie in question was pretty close to panicking. I don't question that this was a mistake on her part, but one does have to question the sufficiency of her training. Regardless, she's resigned (apparently as of January). It's unclear whether any charges are pending against her, although they probably should be. And you'd think the police would have dropped the charges against the man (which, yes, include battery on a police officer), but apparently not. Shocking.


Not the same incident. This happened yesterday.
 
2021-04-12 2:31:03 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: The police only use bullshiat, bad-faith excuses like that because the general public accepts them and allows police to keep doing shiat like this.


If you watch the bodycam (not the vid that PN posted), she sweeps her partner multiple times with the muzzle.  So she very well may have believed it was her tazer.  Not making excuses, because JFC, that's unf*ckingbelievable, but still.
 
2021-04-12 2:36:30 PM  
The article doesn't name the officer.

I'm unclear on if the officer is a he or she (a non binary police officer would be cool if not shooting Black people).
 
2021-04-12 2:38:10 PM  

hobnail: AdmirableSnackbar: The police only use bullshiat, bad-faith excuses like that because the general public accepts them and allows police to keep doing shiat like this.

If you watch the bodycam (not the vid that PN posted), she sweeps her partner multiple times with the muzzle.  So she very well may have believed it was her tazer.  Not making excuses, because JFC, that's unf*ckingbelievable, but still.


Wouldn't a tazer and a handgun have different weight and hand grip?
 
2021-04-12 2:38:24 PM  
+1 subby for the Bloom County reference.

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2021-04-12 2:38:54 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Video of the incident: https://www.youtube.com/watc​h?v=A_KDyN2HfsU

It looks to me like the rookie in question was pretty close to panicking. I don't question that this was a mistake on her part, but one does have to question the sufficiency of her training. Regardless, she's resigned (apparently as of January). It's unclear whether any charges are pending against her, although they probably should be. And you'd think the police would have dropped the charges against the man (which, yes, include battery on a police officer), but apparently not. Shocking.



"pulled over for a seat belt violation." Well then, that criminal deserved what he got.
 
2021-04-12 2:41:55 PM  
I once poured sugar on my pizza slice instead of garlic.  It was traumatic.
 
2021-04-12 2:44:27 PM  
The original report I heard was that the driver was shot as he was fleeing the scene.  Now the claim is the shooter meant to taser?  What the fark is going on here?

But anyway, it's a woman cop so she's going to jail.
 
2021-04-12 2:44:36 PM  

GardenWeasel: hobnail: AdmirableSnackbar: The police only use bullshiat, bad-faith excuses like that because the general public accepts them and allows police to keep doing shiat like this.

If you watch the bodycam (not the vid that PN posted), she sweeps her partner multiple times with the muzzle.  So she very well may have believed it was her tazer.  Not making excuses, because JFC, that's unf*ckingbelievable, but still.

Wouldn't a tazer and a handgun have different weight and hand grip?


I assume so, yes.

Purple_Urkle: The article doesn't name the officer.

I'm unclear on if the officer is a he or she (a non binary police officer would be cool if not shooting Black people).


The officer is a woman, according to the police chief, and the body cam audio.
 
2021-04-12 2:44:44 PM  
hobnail:Not the same incident. This happened yesterday.

Hm. I thought it was. Now what I'm wondering is just how often this sort of "oops, meant to fire my taser but fired my gun instead" thing actually happens with cops.
 
2021-04-12 2:45:19 PM  
Had to turn off the safety. She was mad and he was showing contempt of cop.
 
2021-04-12 2:46:00 PM  
Maybe the cop could accidentally get put in gen-pop?
 
2021-04-12 2:46:38 PM  
Kind of kind-boggling, but based on the video it was a mistake.

I seriously have trouble wrapping my head around it, but the officer acted like she was firing a taser.

It's like the brain was doing one thing and the muscle memory something else.

Fact that the video is out in 24 hours is pretty amazing though.  Even a year ago they would have tried to bury it.
 
2021-04-12 2:46:55 PM  
OOPS!  So sorry.
 
2021-04-12 2:47:16 PM  
These things happen.

One Saturday morning (11 AM) I went to put in my contacts and found the little container full of toothpaste. I'm still hopeful I managed to brush by teeth correctly.
 
2021-04-12 2:47:24 PM  

hobnail: Pocket Ninja: Video of the incident: https://www.youtube.com/watc​h?v=A_KDyN2HfsU

It looks to me like the rookie in question was pretty close to panicking. I don't question that this was a mistake on her part, but one does have to question the sufficiency of her training. Regardless, she's resigned (apparently as of January). It's unclear whether any charges are pending against her, although they probably should be. And you'd think the police would have dropped the charges against the man (which, yes, include battery on a police officer), but apparently not. Shocking.

Not the same incident. This happened yesterday.


And I thought I heard that the officer from yesterday had been on the force for a while, not a rookie.
 
2021-04-12 2:48:00 PM  

Badmoodman: Pocket Ninja: Video of the incident: https://www.youtube.com/watc​h?v=A_KDyN2HfsU

It looks to me like the rookie in question was pretty close to panicking. I don't question that this was a mistake on her part, but one does have to question the sufficiency of her training. Regardless, she's resigned (apparently as of January). It's unclear whether any charges are pending against her, although they probably should be. And you'd think the police would have dropped the charges against the man (which, yes, include battery on a police officer), but apparently not. Shocking.


"pulled over for a seat belt violation." Well then, that criminal deserved what he got.


Someone died over a seat belt law.  It's so important that people wear seat belts that we have people with guns making sure you comply.
 
2021-04-12 2:48:06 PM  
I mean, salt in coffee is a thing.

I don't think you add it by the spoon... more the pinch.
 
2021-04-12 2:48:20 PM  

Abox: I once poured sugar on my pizza slice instead of garlic.  It was traumatic.


So it became Papa John's pizza? That is traumatic.
 
2021-04-12 2:48:44 PM  

GardenWeasel: hobnail: AdmirableSnackbar: The police only use bullshiat, bad-faith excuses like that because the general public accepts them and allows police to keep doing shiat like this.

If you watch the bodycam (not the vid that PN posted), she sweeps her partner multiple times with the muzzle.  So she very well may have believed it was her tazer.  Not making excuses, because JFC, that's unf*ckingbelievable, but still.

Wouldn't a tazer and a handgun have different weight and hand grip?


Yes.
More importantly? They train to use the gun on the dominant side, and the taser on the offhand side. So she drew from the wrong side of her belt!
 
2021-04-12 2:48:55 PM  
Salt in coffee takes away some bitterness, I intentionally will add it =)
 
2021-04-12 2:49:06 PM  
He wasn't lethally racist, he was lethally incompetent. In short, you're the real incompetent racists.

We good?
 
2021-04-12 2:49:10 PM  
You put your gun holster on your dominant side, you put the taser on the other side.  That reduces the chance of drawing the wrong one.

Meanwhile, San Francisco PD had their tasers taken away because they were using them as compliance (torture) devices in violation of the law.  Of course, no cops were ever punished for torturing people.  Last year the SF chief of police kept doing radio spots begging the public to support them getting back their tasers.  My attitude is, "we're debating if you get to keep your guns, asshole, so just STFU".
 
2021-04-12 2:49:17 PM  
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2021-04-12 2:49:27 PM  
All the more reason to simply just obey the cops.   If he complies, he is breathing today.   He put himself in that situation.
 
2021-04-12 2:49:40 PM  

Abox: I once poured sugar on my pizza slice instead of garlic.  It was traumatic.


I had a friend in college -- actually my boss at work -- who regularly put sugar on his pizza. He had discovered it accidentally like you, thinking he was pouring Parmesan cheese on it. I tried a slice that way. It wasn't bad, actually; there's already a good amount of sugar in pizza sauce. But I wouldn't do it regularly.

As one might expect of someone who regularly eats sugar pizza, he died a few years ago of a massive heart attack. R.I.P. Ray.
 
2021-04-12 2:49:44 PM  

Pocket Ninja: hobnail:Not the same incident. This happened yesterday.

Hm. I thought it was. Now what I'm wondering is just how often this sort of "oops, meant to fire my taser but fired my gun instead" thing actually happens with cops.


Just when they need it to.
 
2021-04-12 2:49:46 PM  

outatime: Abox: I once poured sugar on my pizza slice instead of garlic.  It was traumatic.

So it became Papa John's pizza? That is traumatic.


I was making the same joke about little caesar's pizza.
 
2021-04-12 2:50:12 PM  
How farking stupid does one have to be to confuse a taser with a gun?
Apparently, just farking stupid enough to qualify for the force.
 
2021-04-12 2:50:17 PM  
DON'T TAZE ME BRO!

Gunfire it is then...
 
2021-04-12 2:50:22 PM  
Geeze, now that I've seen the video this is unbelievable.  Incompetent cops all around and one led to a killing.
 
2021-04-12 2:50:26 PM  

GardenWeasel: hobnail: AdmirableSnackbar: The police only use bullshiat, bad-faith excuses like that because the general public accepts them and allows police to keep doing shiat like this.

If you watch the bodycam (not the vid that PN posted), she sweeps her partner multiple times with the muzzle.  So she very well may have believed it was her tazer.  Not making excuses, because JFC, that's unf*ckingbelievable, but still.

Wouldn't a tazer and a handgun have different weight and hand grip?


Yes and no, it depends on the tazer
The ones that shoot the projectile are specifically designed to feel exactly like their service weapon, as a "feature" so that minimal additional training is needed, the grip, safety location, ect. are the same
 
2021-04-12 2:50:28 PM  

Pocket Ninja: hobnail:Not the same incident. This happened yesterday.

Hm. I thought it was. Now what I'm wondering is just how often this sort of "oops, meant to fire my taser but fired my gun instead" thing actually happens with cops.


A number greater than one.
 
2021-04-12 2:50:50 PM  

elweedz: All the more reason to simply just obey the cops.   If he complies, he is breathing today.   He put himself in that situation.


Cops aren't allowed to kill guilty people either
 
2021-04-12 2:51:03 PM  
Well, the wrongful death lawsuit should be easy to win.
 
2021-04-12 2:51:13 PM  
reach across your body to your non-dominant hand 🧐
 
2021-04-12 2:51:20 PM  
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most, but not all PD tasers are bright yellow.  several reasons:  in the bodycam era, so the BWC clearly shows which tool the officer is using.  second, so the detainee/arrestee knows he's not looking at a gun.

but....for a cop who has to as a condition of his job, qualify semiannually (or possibly quarterly, based on jurisidction), on handgun marksmanship, to mix up a BRIGHT EFFING YELLOW thing versus a piece of cold steel....inexcusable.
 
2021-04-12 2:51:52 PM  

TommyDeuce: Time to redesign the Taser I guess.  Shape it like, I don't know, a dildo?


Serious suggestion:   Have the Taser trigger be a thumb-push, totally different than the standard trigger, but still convenient and easy to operate.
 
2021-04-12 2:52:05 PM  

Super Chronic: As one might expect of someone who regularly eats sugar pizza, he died a few years ago of a massive heart attack. R.I.P. Ray


Famous Original's?
 
2021-04-12 2:52:11 PM  

elweedz: All the more reason to simply just obey the cops.   If he complies, he is breathing today.   He put himself in that situation.


No
 
2021-04-12 2:53:39 PM  

Pocket Ninja: pretty close to panicking. I don't question that this was a mistake on her part, but one does have to question the sufficiency of her training.


Case was dropped for Kansas City shooting.
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local​/​crime/article228509349.html
 
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