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(Some Guy)   38 years ago today R.E.M. released 'Murmur' to unmistakable acclaim and college radio had it own distinct sound   (hotpress.com) divider line
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2021-04-12 12:12:39 PM  
And 0 days from today, Subby practiced his first words in English.
 
2021-04-12 12:27:52 PM  
No cap, right? Fark is leting us down lately, If it ain't a typo, its bad grammer. Thredline needs fixed.
 
2021-04-12 12:35:39 PM  
Nah, I'm just being churlish today.

Headline is clumsy and I'm not sure what "...and college radio had its own distinct sound" is supposed to mean in the context of the first half of the sentence.  College radio has pretty much always "had its own sound", so did REM have their own sound?  Yes.  Was REM only played on college radio stations?  Fark if I know, but they sure got to mainstream radio pretty quickly.
 
2021-04-12 12:59:31 PM  

SansNeural: Nah, I'm just being churlish today.

Headline is clumsy and I'm not sure what "...and college radio had its own distinct sound" is supposed to mean in the context of the first half of the sentence.  College radio has pretty much always "had its own sound", so did REM have their own sound?  Yes.  Was REM only played on college radio stations?  Fark if I know, but they sure got to mainstream radio pretty quickly.


Hah! This is the place for churls, and I'm sometimes nice and sometimes a dick. Who cares, this is Fark.

As far as REM, I got turned onto them with their Chronic Town EP. I was still in high school and remember hearing they were from the B-52's hometown, so maybe they were good. And they were! Love me some jangle pop to this day.
 
2021-04-12 1:16:22 PM  

Stephen_Falken: SansNeural: Nah, I'm just being churlish today.

Headline is clumsy and I'm not sure what "...and college radio had its own distinct sound" is supposed to mean in the context of the first half of the sentence.  College radio has pretty much always "had its own sound", so did REM have their own sound?  Yes.  Was REM only played on college radio stations?  Fark if I know, but they sure got to mainstream radio pretty quickly.

Hah! This is the place for churls, and I'm sometimes nice and sometimes a dick. Who cares, this is Fark.

As far as REM, I got turned onto them with their Chronic Town EP. I was still in high school and remember hearing they were from the B-52's hometown, so maybe they were good. And they were! Love me some jangle pop to this day.


Buck deffo cadged that jangle from Roger McGuin, but they were still a fantastic group.

Were, because they lost something after they got popular.
 
2021-04-12 1:25:00 PM  
The original Mumblebjork, Michael Stipe.

How many albums was it until he finally decided to enunciate?
 
2021-04-12 1:49:13 PM  
Mumble. The album was mumble.

/Not subby, or the headline would have been correct.
 
2021-04-12 1:50:05 PM  

Jack Sabbath: The original Mumblebjork, Michael Stipe.

How many albums was it until he finally decided to enunciate?


Oh, hi.
He still doesn't enunciate.
 
2021-04-12 2:11:27 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Stephen_Falken: SansNeural: Nah, I'm just being churlish today.

Headline is clumsy and I'm not sure what "...and college radio had its own distinct sound" is supposed to mean in the context of the first half of the sentence.  College radio has pretty much always "had its own sound", so did REM have their own sound?  Yes.  Was REM only played on college radio stations?  Fark if I know, but they sure got to mainstream radio pretty quickly.

Hah! This is the place for churls, and I'm sometimes nice and sometimes a dick. Who cares, this is Fark.

As far as REM, I got turned onto them with their Chronic Town EP. I was still in high school and remember hearing they were from the B-52's hometown, so maybe they were good. And they were! Love me some jangle pop to this day.

Buck deffo cadged that jangle from Roger McGuin, but they were still a fantastic group.

Were, because they lost something after they got popular.


OK fair enough, as long as we remember that McGuinn ripped off George Harrison. The Fadd9 intro chord to Hard Days' Night started the entire genre.

But sure, I agree REM lost a certain raw and vital quality once they signed to a major. It was a bit of a drag when Stipe atarted enunciating as well. I thought the mystery of 'what the f*ck did he just say' was sort of attractive in its own iconoclastic way.
 
2021-04-12 3:00:07 PM  

Stephen_Falken: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Stephen_Falken: SansNeural: Nah, I'm just being churlish today.

Headline is clumsy and I'm not sure what "...and college radio had its own distinct sound" is supposed to mean in the context of the first half of the sentence.  College radio has pretty much always "had its own sound", so did REM have their own sound?  Yes.  Was REM only played on college radio stations?  Fark if I know, but they sure got to mainstream radio pretty quickly.

Hah! This is the place for churls, and I'm sometimes nice and sometimes a dick. Who cares, this is Fark.

As far as REM, I got turned onto them with their Chronic Town EP. I was still in high school and remember hearing they were from the B-52's hometown, so maybe they were good. And they were! Love me some jangle pop to this day.

Buck deffo cadged that jangle from Roger McGuin, but they were still a fantastic group.

Were, because they lost something after they got popular.

OK fair enough, as long as we remember that McGuinn ripped off George Harrison. The Fadd9 intro chord to Hard Days' Night started the entire genre.

But sure, I agree REM lost a certain raw and vital quality once they signed to a major. It was a bit of a drag when Stipe atarted enunciating as well. I thought the mystery of 'what the f*ck did he just say' was sort of attractive in its own iconoclastic way.


Your autofarkup misspelled annoying.
 
2021-04-12 3:58:12 PM  
Decide yourself if radio's gonna stay.
 
2021-04-12 3:58:48 PM  
Very early REM and very early Cure... not much alike, but two absolutely distinct sounds.  Back when bands wanted to have a distinct sound.  Music that creates its own atmosphere.
 
2021-04-12 4:02:23 PM  
Not as good as their later albums, such as Green, but still very enjoyable to listen to.
 
2021-04-12 4:03:06 PM  
This entire thread so far makes about as much sense as the lyrics to 9-9.
 
2021-04-12 4:04:31 PM  
IRS REM was okay.  Stopped listening with WB REM
 
2021-04-12 4:05:01 PM  

Jack Sabbath: The original Mumblebjork, Michael Stipe.

How many albums was it until he finally decided to enunciate?


I think Green was the first album where you could clearly understand his lyrics (it's certainly not a coincident that this was the band's major label debut after years on IRS).  Personally I loved early mumbly Michael Stipe.  It added an element of ambiguity to the band's material.

R.E.M. 1st TV Appearance 1983 Complete Version, Better Sound
Youtube rQo0cR1onRM
 
2021-04-12 4:09:37 PM  

Jack Sabbath: The original Mumblebjork, Michael Stipe.

How many albums was it until he finally decided to enunciate?


Some artists sometimes prefer the mystery and ambiguity for some tracks.

I've been fortunate in my work to have related conversations with a few well-known artists.  I like it when they're doing it intentionally to add layers of meaning for themselves (and the listeners) -- and figure it's not uncommon for songwriters to get a bit bored and want to be playful with lyrics when they've performed songs hundreds of times.

(Or, you know, temporarily forgotten the lyrics.)
 
2021-04-12 4:15:36 PM  
Band I was in played a show in NYC and we had a connection with someone who worked at Looking Glass studio so we got to see the place. David Bowie was doing work there at the time (studios weren't active when we visited) and in an office I sat down in were the original 2" tape reels of Murmur there to be remastered. They had the original tracking notes with them ("Michael in the bathroom" "Pete with the rick through bassman" sort of handwritten notes) and I had my NYC moment. Well arguably my NYC moment was the previous day when our van was towed as we loaded into the Continental and then played for fifteen people ;)
 
2021-04-12 4:17:25 PM  

Snapper Carr: Jack Sabbath: The original Mumblebjork, Michael Stipe.

How many albums was it until he finally decided to enunciate?

I think Green was the first album where you could clearly understand his lyrics (it's certainly not a coincident that this was the band's major label debut after years on IRS).  Personally I loved early mumbly Michael Stipe.  It added an element of ambiguity to the band's material.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/rQo0cR1o​nRM]


No it was Life's Rich Pageant is when the enunciating and the proto whine began.

Which is when I stopped listening to them.
 
2021-04-12 4:19:33 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: Jack Sabbath: The original Mumblebjork, Michael Stipe.

How many albums was it until he finally decided to enunciate?

Oh, hi.
He still doesn't enunciate.


Early on, there was almost nothing there to enunciate.
Michael Stipe on R.E.M.'s Legacy and Writing Music Again | The RS Interview
Youtube ELpVKF68I6c
 
2021-04-12 4:32:41 PM  
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2021-04-12 4:39:41 PM  

Billy Liar: IRS REM was okay.  Stopped listening with WB REM


Are you saying Hib-Tone REM was best then?  (Radio Free Europe was first released on Hib-Tone, slightly faster beat)
 
2021-04-12 5:03:13 PM  

Jack Sabbath: The original Mumblebjork, Michael Stipe.

How many albums was it until he finally decided to enunciate?


Michael Stipe is a paragon of clear pronunciation compared to Eddie Vedder.
 
2021-04-12 5:05:42 PM  

Dels: Decide yourself if radio's gonna stay.


LOL that's not the lyric. Maybe you knew that?

/A lot of internet lyric websites are wrong.
/film at 11
/three slashes
 
2021-04-12 5:16:58 PM  
I remember I was the first DJ to play Murmur at the Ottawa U radio station back then, Talk About The Passion for my noontime show.

Became a favorite album and remains their best IMO.
 
2021-04-12 5:40:17 PM  
I just realized that the only time I saw REM was the night after Murmur was released.  4/13/83, at The University of Rochester.
 
2021-04-12 5:43:45 PM  
My buddy lives next door to Peter Buck
 
2021-04-12 5:48:46 PM  

The Reverend Sam Hill: Jack Sabbath: The original Mumblebjork, Michael Stipe.

How many albums was it until he finally decided to enunciate?

Michael Stipe is a paragon of clear pronunciation compared to Eddie Vedder.


I thought it was a draw.
 
2021-04-12 6:11:45 PM  

mrspeacock: The Reverend Sam Hill: Jack Sabbath: The original Mumblebjork, Michael Stipe.

How many albums was it until he finally decided to enunciate?

Michael Stipe is a paragon of clear pronunciation compared to Eddie Vedder.

I thought it was a draw.


Drawl?
 
2021-04-12 6:22:37 PM  
Just before we moved to Athens. It was a great time. And at the start of a run of at least 10 fantastic records in a row. Nostalgia...
 
2021-04-12 6:38:28 PM  
I've got everything from Chronic Town to Up (save Eponymous) on vinyl. I stopped because it became harder to track down the LPs at a reasonable price, but I wish I could complete the set.
 
2021-04-12 6:41:43 PM  

The Reverend Sam Hill: Jack Sabbath: The original Mumblebjork, Michael Stipe.

How many albums was it until he finally decided to enunciate?

Michael Stipe is a paragon of clear pronunciation compared to Eddie Vedder.


Neither one is a top top band for me but they are both fantastic vocalists
 
2021-04-12 6:43:19 PM  

Clash City Farker: Dels: Decide yourself if radio's gonna stay.

LOL that's not the lyric. Maybe you knew that?

/A lot of internet lyric websites are wrong.
/film at 11
/three slashes


he's saying Gene Masseth.
 
2021-04-12 6:52:05 PM  

SansNeural: And 0 days from today, Subby practiced his first words in English.


It's not lazy it's Fark

/Did I do that right?
 
2021-04-12 7:40:32 PM  

Jack Sabbath: The original Mumblebjork, Michael Stipe.

How many albums was it until he finally decided to enunciate?


I know right? Like from their 1st song.  They wrote  "That's great it starts with an earth quake, birds and snakes and arrow-planes Lenny Bruce is not afraid"  It always sounded like, "That's great it starts with girth babes, turds and quakes and astral planes, lemon juice is getting laid". I wish they would enunciate! Don't even get me started on that song they did about that computer game "Loosing my Rail gun". Like why would he even be standing in a corner in the spotlight if he lost his freaking rail-gun?
 
2021-04-12 7:46:43 PM  
Fables of the Reconstruction and Automatic for the People are their best albums. Change my mind.
 
2021-04-12 7:55:07 PM  
Wrote a glowing review of this album for my high school paper when it came out...5/5.

/Why yes, I was edgy and kind of a big deal.
 
2021-04-12 8:24:39 PM  
I remember the first time I heard Murmur. A classmate was playing it on a cheap-o cassette player. My initial reaction was "what is this crap?" I soon loved them. Same deal with U2 a couple years earlier.
 
2021-04-12 8:30:35 PM  
When I was a HS freshmen, I told a girl at school that I liked one of R.E.M.'s songs (can't remember which one). She wasn't a close friend or anything, just some hippie chick in one of my classes. The next day, she handed me everything they had ever recorded up to that point (Green, I think), all carefully dubbed on TDKs with hand written song lists and her own artwork all over the little sheets inside the cases. It was masterful work, and I'm often sad/nostalgic that I didn't keep them.

And I was too young/naive to realize that she probably liked me (or at least wanted to be more friendly). I'm pretty sure I thanked her and basically ignored her after that. I was not a very mature teen with the ability to read social cues. Sad, since my recollection is that she was pretty cool and cute. She did instill for me a deep love for the band, so I guess that's something.
 
2021-04-12 9:48:39 PM  
College radio should have gone with "Kill 'Em All", also released in '83 and holds up way better.
 
2021-04-12 10:26:45 PM  

mrspeacock: The Reverend Sam Hill: Jack Sabbath: The original Mumblebjork, Michael Stipe.

How many albums was it until he finally decided to enunciate?

Michael Stipe is a paragon of clear pronunciation compared to Eddie Vedder.

I thought it was a draw.


I know of nothing by REM that tops "Yellow Ledbetter" for murky pronunciation.

Yellow Ledbetter
Youtube yMVZVwWLmNk
 
2021-04-12 11:15:18 PM  

The Reverend Sam Hill: mrspeacock: The Reverend Sam Hill: Jack Sabbath: The original Mumblebjork, Michael Stipe.

How many albums was it until he finally decided to enunciate?

Michael Stipe is a paragon of clear pronunciation compared to Eddie Vedder.

I thought it was a draw.

I know of nothing by REM that tops "Yellow Ledbetter" for murky pronunciation.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/yMVZVwWL​mNk]


Rusted Root - Send Me On My Way
Youtube IGMabBGydC0
 
2021-04-12 11:16:38 PM  

The Reverend Sam Hill: mrspeacock: The Reverend Sam Hill: Jack Sabbath: The original Mumblebjork, Michael Stipe.

How many albums was it until he finally decided to enunciate?

Michael Stipe is a paragon of clear pronunciation compared to Eddie Vedder.

I thought it was a draw.

I know of nothing by REM that tops "Yellow Ledbetter" for murky pronunciation.

[YouTube video: Yellow Ledbetter]


MISHEARD LYRICS - Pearl Jam - Yellow Ledbetter
Youtube xLd22ha_-VU

/potato wave
//make me fries
///slashies
 
2021-04-12 11:43:04 PM  

The Reverend Sam Hill: mrspeacock: The Reverend Sam Hill: Jack Sabbath: The original Mumblebjork, Michael Stipe.

How many albums was it until he finally decided to enunciate?

Michael Stipe is a paragon of clear pronunciation compared to Eddie Vedder.

I thought it was a draw.

I know of nothing by REM that tops "Yellow Ledbetter" for murky pronunciation.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/yMVZVwWL​mNk]


Burn in Hell does and Voice of Harold is Stipe just singing the liner notes from an old Gospel LP.
 
2021-04-12 11:43:46 PM  

Snapper Carr: Jack Sabbath: The original Mumblebjork, Michael Stipe.

How many albums was it until he finally decided to enunciate?

I think Green was the first album where you could clearly understand his lyrics (it's certainly not a coincident that this was the band's major label debut after years on IRS).  Personally I loved early mumbly Michael Stipe.  It added an element of ambiguity to the band's material.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/rQo0cR1o​nRM]


Most of the lyrics are pretty distinct on "Lifes Rich Pageant" (no, there's no apostrophe in the title), but there are a lot of moments even prior to that where Stipe's lyrics are pretty understandable.  On some songs, like "Don't Go Back to Rockville," the l

unlimitedab: The Reverend Sam Hill: mrspeacock: The Reverend Sam Hill: Jack Sabbath: The original Mumblebjork, Michael Stipe.

How many albums was it until he finally decided to enunciate?

Michael Stipe is a paragon of clear pronunciation compared to Eddie Vedder.

I thought it was a draw.

I know of nothing by REM that tops "Yellow Ledbetter" for murky pronunciation.

[YouTube video: Yellow Ledbetter]

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/potato wave
//make me fries
///slashies


Yeah, past this point, you're getting into bands that are intentionally not trying to sing intelligible words, like The Cocteau Twins or Sigur Ros.
 
2021-04-13 12:06:44 AM  

IHadMeAVision: Fables of the Reconstruction and Automatic for the People are their best albums. Change my mind.


Reconstuction of the Fables was similarly excellent.
 
2021-04-13 3:30:32 AM  

Left Leg: IHadMeAVision: Fables of the Reconstruction and Automatic for the People are their best albums. Change my mind.

Reconstuction of the Fables was similarly excellent.


I get the joke but I, in my "humble" opinion, consider Automatic a distant second to Fables. I'm from the northeast coast but the whole album to me seemed to embody REM embracing its southern heritage in both words and music with awesome results. Keep in mind I was born in 1987 and my Fark handle is the first line of a song from the least-popular Pixies album Trompe le Monde, so beauty is on the eye of the beholder, etc.
 
2021-04-13 12:35:25 PM  

Stephen_Falken: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Stephen_Falken: SansNeural: Nah, I'm just being churlish today.

Headline is clumsy and I'm not sure what "...and college radio had its own distinct sound" is supposed to mean in the context of the first half of the sentence.  College radio has pretty much always "had its own sound", so did REM have their own sound?  Yes.  Was REM only played on college radio stations?  Fark if I know, but they sure got to mainstream radio pretty quickly.

Hah! This is the place for churls, and I'm sometimes nice and sometimes a dick. Who cares, this is Fark.

As far as REM, I got turned onto them with their Chronic Town EP. I was still in high school and remember hearing they were from the B-52's hometown, so maybe they were good. And they were! Love me some jangle pop to this day.

Buck deffo cadged that jangle from Roger McGuin, but they were still a fantastic group.

Were, because they lost something after they got popular.

OK fair enough, as long as we remember that McGuinn ripped off George Harrison. The Fadd9 intro chord to Hard Days' Night started the entire genre.

But sure, I agree REM lost a certain raw and vital quality once they signed to a major. It was a bit of a drag when Stipe atarted enunciating as well. I thought the mystery of 'what the f*ck did he just say' was sort of attractive in its own iconoclastic way.


Didn't Roger give George a Rickenbacker, which John kept?
 
2021-04-13 4:10:26 PM  

dereksmalls: Stephen_Falken: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Stephen_Falken: SansNeural: Nah, I'm just being churlish today.

Headline is clumsy and I'm not sure what "...and college radio had its own distinct sound" is supposed to mean in the context of the first half of the sentence.  College radio has pretty much always "had its own sound", so did REM have their own sound?  Yes.  Was REM only played on college radio stations?  Fark if I know, but they sure got to mainstream radio pretty quickly.

Hah! This is the place for churls, and I'm sometimes nice and sometimes a dick. Who cares, this is Fark.

As far as REM, I got turned onto them with their Chronic Town EP. I was still in high school and remember hearing they were from the B-52's hometown, so maybe they were good. And they were! Love me some jangle pop to this day.

Buck deffo cadged that jangle from Roger McGuin, but they were still a fantastic group.

Were, because they lost something after they got popular.

OK fair enough, as long as we remember that McGuinn ripped off George Harrison. The Fadd9 intro chord to Hard Days' Night started the entire genre.

But sure, I agree REM lost a certain raw and vital quality once they signed to a major. It was a bit of a drag when Stipe atarted enunciating as well. I thought the mystery of 'what the f*ck did he just say' was sort of attractive in its own iconoclastic way.

Didn't Roger give George a Rickenbacker, which John kept?


Roger Waters gave George Lopez a guitar with John Belusi kept?

What a weird world.
 
2021-04-13 8:20:03 PM  

IHadMeAVision: Fables of the Reconstruction and Automatic for the People are their best albums. Change my mind.


Fair enough.
CSB: At the time of release of A4tP, the ex and I lived 3 houses down from Weaver D. He was fairly excited. My next-door neighbor was Stipe's lawyer, and her husband was their former guitar tech.
Sadly, that did NOT get me an invite to the Greenpeace show.
/rip Buren. Very nice guy.
 
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