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2021-04-11 9:33:22 PM  
I do not support prison guards using their authority to assault or harass prisoners. It is uncivil and has no room in our justice system.

/but I'm not losing any sleep over this case.
 
2021-04-11 9:46:13 PM  
Boofarkinghoo
 
2021-04-11 9:46:19 PM  
Prison guards should not be assaulting prisoners without a self defense justification.

I know it happens all the time but most inmates don't have lawyers to complain about it much.
 
2021-04-11 9:56:30 PM  
Were his constitutional rights violated?
 
2021-04-11 10:12:40 PM  
The injuries sound more like another inmates FO'd him.

Guards usually don't get involved with beatdowns because well... they don't have to. They could have someone pummeled into the ICU by leaving 3 candy bars on the table and just nodding in dude's direction.
 
2021-04-11 10:21:21 PM  

tjsands1118: I do not support prison guards using their authority to assault or harass prisoners. It is uncivil and has no room in our justice system.


Nobody seems to care about prison reform. Maybe things will change.
 
2021-04-11 10:26:34 PM  

edmo: tjsands1118: I do not support prison guards using their authority to assault or harass prisoners. It is uncivil and has no room in our justice system.

Nobody seems to care about prison reform. Maybe things will change.


Oh, my sweet summer child.
 
2021-04-11 10:33:27 PM  

Cubansaltyballs: The injuries sound more like another inmates FO'd him.

Guards usually don't get involved with beatdowns because well... they don't have to. They could have someone pummeled into the ICU by leaving 3 candy bars on the table and just nodding in dude's direction.


Yep.

It's not like guards haven't done some shady shiat before. But to bound and then beat the shiat out of a high-profile dickhole like this? I don't buy it.

Now, I could see a strange accident befalling someone like this.
 
2021-04-11 10:34:51 PM  
And "oh the client didn't report it, a couple of his treason buddies did" does NOT help...

Does he have a backwards B scratched into his face, too?
 
2021-04-11 10:37:31 PM  
- OR -

Public Servant Goes Above And Beyond For The Sake Of Democracy
 
2021-04-11 10:44:19 PM  
Is this one of the guys that alleged Biden stole the election?
 
2021-04-11 11:11:20 PM  
Lawyers alleged a lot of things. I'm sure that this asshat stubbed his toe and wasn't immediately released on his own recognizance.
 
2021-04-11 11:12:42 PM  

make me some tea: Prison guards should not be assaulting prisoners without a self defense justification.


Given this guy's history and the fact that his own lawyer isn't trying to get him released, the odds that he got beat up (by someone) in retaliation for something he did are higher than usual.

"Pasqualini said she doesn't currently plan to file a motion asking for Samsel's release because the state of Pennsylvania has a detainer on him due to his status as a parolee on January 6.

Records show Samsel is on parole for an assault conviction from 2016 in Pennsylvania and that there's a separate warrant for his arrest related to an alleged 2019 assault in New Jersey."
 
2021-04-11 11:17:48 PM  
"Investigators said that Samsel and others knocked a female U.S. Capitol Police officer to the ground, causing her to strike her head on concrete stairs and lose consciousness. Later, investigators said Samsel picked up the injured officer and reportedly said: "We don't have to hurt you. Why are you standing in our way?" "

http://levittownnow.com/2021/04/07/la​w​yer-bristol-twp-man-charged-for-capito​l-attack-savagely-beaten-while-in-cust​ody/
 
2021-04-11 11:33:50 PM  

Cubansaltyballs: The injuries sound more like another inmates FO'd him.

Guards usually don't get involved with beatdowns because well... they don't have to. They could have someone pummeled into the ICU by leaving 3 candy bars on the table and just nodding in dude's direction.


Or he can't follow the rules in prison either.
 
2021-04-11 11:40:02 PM  
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2021-04-11 11:48:54 PM  
I bet there is video of that guy attacking the jail guard, finding out.
 
2021-04-12 12:26:45 AM  

Cubansaltyballs: The injuries sound more like another inmates FO'd him.

Guards usually don't get involved with beatdowns because well... they don't have to. They could have someone pummeled into the ICU by leaving 3 candy bars on the table and just nodding in dude's direction.


This does seem vastly more plausible.
 
2021-04-12 12:29:30 AM  
"Pasqualini said she doesn't currently plan to file a motion asking for Samsel's release because the state of Pennsylvania has a detainer on him due to his status as a parolee on January 6. [p] Records show Samsel is on parole for an assault conviction from 2016 in Pennsylvania and that there's a separate warrant for his arrest related to an alleged 2019 assault in New Jersey."
 
2021-04-12 12:30:42 AM  
please, link me to the rethuglicans railing against the thin blue line over this
 
2021-04-12 12:32:10 AM  
Cops don't like people who messed with cops on the outside. The Romero team reports at 11.
 
2021-04-12 12:32:20 AM  
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2021-04-12 12:34:23 AM  
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2021-04-12 12:34:39 AM  

west.la.lawyer: "Pasqualini said she doesn't currently plan to file a motion asking for Samsel's release because the state of Pennsylvania has a detainer on him due to his status as a parolee on January 6. [p] Records show Samsel is on parole for an assault conviction from 2016 in Pennsylvania and that there's a separate warrant for his arrest related to an alleged 2019 assault in New Jersey."


Dude sounds like a real peach.
 
2021-04-12 12:35:05 AM  
Oh now we're just all monsters at frak dot com? Open up the gas chambers again with the shower facade, we have a clear case of let bad things happen to people not like me, which until today was the sole right of Republicans to declare.

He's clearly not confused nor lacking in mental health care, he's subhuman and needs a beat down and clearly the guards didn't do it directly.

Screw the lot of you unprincipled morons.
 
2021-04-12 12:41:07 AM  
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2021-04-12 12:44:19 AM  
Gosh, I'm going to rush to believe a trump thing who only speaks lies.
There is nothing that any of those sacks of shiat could say that I would ever believe because they said it.

That thing is lying.  That thing is not a human being.  Why bother investigating?  Why waste the time?
 
2021-04-12 12:44:30 AM  

recondite cetacean: Oh now we're just all monsters at frak dot com? Open up the gas chambers again with the shower facade, we have a clear case of let bad things happen to people not like me, which until today was the sole right of Republicans to declare.

He's clearly not confused nor lacking in mental health care, he's subhuman and needs a beat down and clearly the guards didn't do it directly.

Screw the lot of you unprincipled morons.


Enjoying that soapbox?
 
2021-04-12 12:44:50 AM  
The only way you'll ever get a Trumper to support prison reform.
 
2021-04-12 12:45:35 AM  
Someone must have told him to shut up and he thought they said stand up ..
 
2021-04-12 12:47:29 AM  
aleister_greynight:

No. When does the prison rape start? I've heard it's funny bit never participated. You sell tickets or what?
 
2021-04-12 12:47:29 AM  
Suddenly the guys carrying Blue Lives Matter flags have opinions on police and other law enforcement reforms?
 
2021-04-12 12:47:53 AM  

recondite cetacean: Oh now we're just all monsters at frak dot com? Open up the gas chambers again with the shower facade, we have a clear case of let bad things happen to people not like me, which until today was the sole right of Republicans to declare.

He's clearly not confused nor lacking in mental health care, he's subhuman and needs a beat down and clearly the guards didn't do it directly.

Screw the lot of you unprincipled morons.


Farkers: don't kill innocent unarmed black people

recondite cetacean: wahh people on fark are happy some traitor who tried to overthrow our farking govt got whooped on

Totes the same!
 
2021-04-12 12:51:04 AM  

recondite cetacean: Oh now we're just all monsters at frak dot com? Open up the gas chambers again with the shower facade, we have a clear case of let bad things happen to people not like me, which until today was the sole right of Republicans to declare.

He's clearly not confused nor lacking in mental health care, he's subhuman and needs a beat down and clearly the guards didn't do it directly.

Screw the lot of you unprincipled morons.


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2021-04-12 12:51:54 AM  
I grew up in a city full of prison guards and they said whenever a prisoner threw piss in their face or whatevs they would bring a few packs of cigarettes the next day and bribe other prisoners to beat them senseless.  They usually tried to let the prisoners do their dirty work.
 
2021-04-12 12:51:57 AM  
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Sir, are your civil rights being violated?
Yes ma'am they are...
You know what, I don't farking care.
 
2021-04-12 12:53:31 AM  

recondite cetacean: Oh now we're just all monsters at frak dot com? Open up the gas chambers again with the shower facade, we have a clear case of let bad things happen to people not like me, which until today was the sole right of Republicans to declare.

He's clearly not confused nor lacking in mental health care, he's subhuman and needs a beat down and clearly the guards didn't do it directly.

Screw the lot of you unprincipled morons.


This might not be the hill you want to die on.
 
2021-04-12 12:55:20 AM  

edmo: tjsands1118: I do not support prison guards using their authority to assault or harass prisoners. It is uncivil and has no room in our justice system.

Nobody seems to care about prison reform. Maybe things will change.


As a person who deeply cares about prison reform, I choose to enjoy the irony of a person who supported a wannabe despot who knocked our prisons back by years enjoying the benefits of his stupidity, while also believing that the guards should be fired, and possibly tried for assault if they are guilty.
 
2021-04-12 12:58:32 AM  
OhioUGrad:

Who said it was the same you ignoramus oh username checks out. Continue.
 
2021-04-12 1:00:48 AM  

tjsands1118: I do not support prison guards using their authority to assault or harass prisoners. It is uncivil and has no room in our justice system.

/but I'm not losing any sleep over this case.


I will write a strong strongly worded memo and place it into a bottle. If I go near a water source at some point I will consider throwing it in.
 
2021-04-12 1:01:49 AM  
Suddenly I assume the right gives a shiat about this?

I mean really? Now?

Not for the countless thousands mistreated, starved, worked half to death, denied medical care of the most basic sort, left to be maimed and abused by other prisoners because no-one cared? Not for the thousands deliberately infected with covid 19? Just for this coont?

Too
farking
Late

/also in the group of people who always care about this and who think all prisoners must be treated decently and humanely while in the care of the state.. but no right-winger agrees with that at all so, right now, fark off.
 
2021-04-12 1:02:00 AM  
monsatano: I'm not dying on this hill, but you have a fairly large population of people who frequent this website who don't make any sort of consistent argument.

You cross my political line, you're an animal. Doesn't that sound like Don Turnip Junior to you?
 
2021-04-12 1:05:05 AM  
Cops shoot black people in the street, and white guy who tries to overthrow the government whines about mistreatment

K
 
2021-04-12 1:05:41 AM  
"Law and order" on both ends, ladies and gents, and both have a gulag mentality towards it.
 
2021-04-12 1:09:21 AM  
Yes, we make fun of Republicans for claiming to support law and order but because we never made that claim we can just shiat all over it because it's not hypocrisy if you aren't shouting the slogan.
 
2021-04-12 1:10:16 AM  

recondite cetacean: monsatano: I'm not dying on this hill, but you have a fairly large population of people who frequent this website who don't make any sort of consistent argument.

You cross my political line, you're an animal. Doesn't that sound like Don Turnip Junior to you?


Their comments are hyperbolic rhetoric on the massive hypocrisy of these people, how can you possibly not see that? Person who absolutely has spent their whole life happily telling everyone else that he 100% thinks prisoners should be shiat on from a great height, are not members of society, are animals, made their own bed etc gets shiat on from a great height and complains.

None of us think this should happen to him or anyone.. most of us think if a guard actually did this then the guard should be a prisoner himself.. but dude come on.
 
2021-04-12 1:15:18 AM  
Let's just get a list of everyone accused of things we don't like and beat the crap out of each one. Let's do it in alphabetical order to make it spicy. Go to their homes, or where they work, or visit them in pre trial prison and just wail on them until a few bones are broken. Who's in?
 
2021-04-12 1:16:12 AM  
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https://www.justice.gov/file/1362781/​d​ownload

Best quote: "We don't have to hurt you, why are you standing in our way?"
 
2021-04-12 1:18:18 AM  

recondite cetacean: Let's just get a list of everyone accused of things we don't like and beat the crap out of each one. Let's do it in alphabetical order to make it spicy. Go to their homes, or where they work, or visit them in pre trial prison and just wail on them until a few bones are broken. Who's in?


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2021-04-12 1:18:41 AM  
Let's just bookmark this for the next cop kills a black guy thread and say you know what, you were fine for punishment off the books then why not now?
 
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