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2021-04-11 8:45:00 PM  
Csb/ got the pfizer vaccine about a week ago and it seems to have kicked my immune system into gear and some noncovid related lingering shiat seems to be on it's way out thankfully... Next shot on 4/20 blaze it
 
2021-04-11 8:57:00 PM  
Good for Cuba.  The article suggests it has a damned well funded and functional vaccine development program.  If it passes stage 3, that will be a huge boost for its devestated econ.  In the long run...  it could spell good things.
 
2021-04-11 8:59:03 PM  
Say what you will about Cuba but they're known for their doctorin' .
 
2021-04-11 9:02:52 PM  

GrogSmash: Good for Cuba.  The article suggests it has a damned well funded and functional vaccine development program.  If it passes stage 3, that will be a huge boost for its devestated econ.  In the long run...  it could spell good things.


The embargo is so farking stupid
 
2021-04-11 9:03:11 PM  
Tried to search for a more appropriate name for a FARK-friendly vaccine name, and got this.

Fifty Shades Of Grey - Drunk Ana
Youtube 02KCFTr-o_w


/no, I haven't seen it either
 
2021-04-11 9:06:34 PM  

GrogSmash: Good for Cuba.  The article suggests it has a damned well funded and functional vaccine development program.  If it passes stage 3, that will be a huge boost for its devestated econ.  In the long run...  it could spell good things.


Cuba has an amazing medical program, they've been sending medical help to other Latin American countries for decades and they also allow American medical students to come study in Cuba for free
 
2021-04-11 9:11:37 PM  

wesmon: GrogSmash: Good for Cuba.  The article suggests it has a damned well funded and functional vaccine development program.  If it passes stage 3, that will be a huge boost for its devestated econ.  In the long run...  it could spell good things.

Cuba has an amazing medical program, they've been sending medical help to other Latin American countries for decades and they also allow American medical students to come study in Cuba for free


The State Dept is on hand at every international meeting trying their damndest to stuff them in consulate packages and get them to the US.

Even Pensacola has more than one Cuban trained and educated doc on hospital staff.
 
2021-04-11 9:21:06 PM  

GrogSmash: If it passes stage 3, that will be a huge boost for its devestated econ. In the long run... it could spell good things.


If it does work, Washington will kneecap any Monroe Doctrine-area country that dares buy it.

The Americas are a protected market area for US Pharma and the emergence of non-US competition is not tolerated.
 
2021-04-11 9:27:43 PM  

flappy_penguin: Csb/ got the pfizer vaccine about a week ago and it seems to have kicked my immune system into gear and some noncovid related lingering shiat seems to be on it's way out thankfully... Next shot on 4/20 blaze it


That's just the 5G radiation from the chip implant killing off the already weakened pathogens...

=Smidge=
 
2021-04-11 9:56:32 PM  

WalkingSedgwick: GrogSmash: If it passes stage 3, that will be a huge boost for its devestated econ. In the long run... it could spell good things.

If it does work, Washington will kneecap any Monroe Doctrine-area country that dares buy it.

The Americas are a protected market area for US Pharma and the emergence of non-US competition is not tolerated.



Cuba already exports the pharmaceuticals and vaccines they develop to dozens of countries. A couple of their vaccines are actually better than American or European counterparts when it comes to the percentage of prevention they offer (not to mention price). No one in Latin America is buying the Cuban Covid vaccines yet only because it hasn't been approved. But several countries went with the Chinese and Russian versions. Considering how Russia may be controlling news about their own vaccine success at home, the best bet to get some good data on it will be to wait for Argentina's vaccination program to get going. They've been getting shipments of it since Feb.
 
2021-04-11 10:04:16 PM  
FTFA: I am rooting for Cuba, as a small State in the Caribbean, to produce at least one successful COVID vaccine approved by the WHO. Of course, I want to see it sold and administered in this region.

Cuba's rank by population of sovereign states: 83/195.

I'm pretty sure the word for that is "average."
 
2021-04-11 10:04:48 PM  

kbronsito: WalkingSedgwick: GrogSmash: If it passes stage 3, that will be a huge boost for its devestated econ. In the long run... it could spell good things.

If it does work, Washington will kneecap any Monroe Doctrine-area country that dares buy it.

The Americas are a protected market area for US Pharma and the emergence of non-US competition is not tolerated.


Cuba already exports the pharmaceuticals and vaccines they develop to dozens of countries. A couple of their vaccines are actually better than American or European counterparts when it comes to the percentage of prevention they offer (not to mention price). No one in Latin America is buying the Cuban Covid vaccines yet only because it hasn't been approved. But several countries went with the Chinese and Russian versions. Considering how Russia may be controlling news about their own vaccine success at home, the best bet to get some good data on it will be to wait for Argentina's vaccination program to get going. They've been getting shipments of it since Feb.


The Lancet did a study of the Russian vaccine and found it surprisingly good.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lan​cet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00234-8/f​ulltext
 
2021-04-11 10:08:52 PM  
What kind of a name for a vaccine is Soberana?  The Cubans should be calling it Trumpcine.
 
2021-04-11 10:14:08 PM  

kbronsito: WalkingSedgwick: GrogSmash: If it passes stage 3, that will be a huge boost for its devestated econ. In the long run... it could spell good things.

If it does work, Washington will kneecap any Monroe Doctrine-area country that dares buy it.

The Americas are a protected market area for US Pharma and the emergence of non-US competition is not tolerated.


Cuba already exports the pharmaceuticals and vaccines they develop to dozens of countries. A couple of their vaccines are actually better than American or European counterparts when it comes to the percentage of prevention they offer (not to mention price). No one in Latin America is buying the Cuban Covid vaccines yet only because it hasn't been approved. But several countries went with the Chinese and Russian versions. Considering how Russia may be controlling news about their own vaccine success at home, the best bet to get some good data on it will be to wait for Argentina's vaccination program to get going. They've been getting shipments of it since Feb.


You mean how the Argentine president got covid despite having used the Russian vaccine.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/04/americ​a​s/argentina-alberto-fernndez-covid-19-​sputnik-vaccine-intl-latam/index.html
 
2021-04-11 10:26:58 PM  

theflatline: kbronsito: WalkingSedgwick: GrogSmash: If it passes stage 3, that will be a huge boost for its devestated econ. In the long run... it could spell good things.

If it does work, Washington will kneecap any Monroe Doctrine-area country that dares buy it.

The Americas are a protected market area for US Pharma and the emergence of non-US competition is not tolerated.


Cuba already exports the pharmaceuticals and vaccines they develop to dozens of countries. A couple of their vaccines are actually better than American or European counterparts when it comes to the percentage of prevention they offer (not to mention price). No one in Latin America is buying the Cuban Covid vaccines yet only because it hasn't been approved. But several countries went with the Chinese and Russian versions. Considering how Russia may be controlling news about their own vaccine success at home, the best bet to get some good data on it will be to wait for Argentina's vaccination program to get going. They've been getting shipments of it since Feb.

You mean how the Argentine president got covid despite having used the Russian vaccine.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/04/america​s/argentina-alberto-fernndez-covid-19-​sputnik-vaccine-intl-latam/index.html


Are you really that dense? None of the vaccines prevent Covid, they mitigate the conditions.
 
2021-04-11 10:28:48 PM  

theflatline: kbronsito: WalkingSedgwick: GrogSmash: If it passes stage 3, that will be a huge boost for its devestated econ. In the long run... it could spell good things.

If it does work, Washington will kneecap any Monroe Doctrine-area country that dares buy it.

The Americas are a protected market area for US Pharma and the emergence of non-US competition is not tolerated.


Cuba already exports the pharmaceuticals and vaccines they develop to dozens of countries. A couple of their vaccines are actually better than American or European counterparts when it comes to the percentage of prevention they offer (not to mention price). No one in Latin America is buying the Cuban Covid vaccines yet only because it hasn't been approved. But several countries went with the Chinese and Russian versions. Considering how Russia may be controlling news about their own vaccine success at home, the best bet to get some good data on it will be to wait for Argentina's vaccination program to get going. They've been getting shipments of it since Feb.

You mean how the Argentine president got covid despite having used the Russian vaccine.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/04/america​s/argentina-alberto-fernndez-covid-19-​sputnik-vaccine-intl-latam/index.html


From the CDC:

Based on evidence from clinical trials, the Moderna vaccine was 94.1% effective at preventing laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 illness in people who received two doses who had no evidence of being previously infected.

1 out of 20 who received the best Western vaccine could suffer the same fate.
 
2021-04-11 10:58:39 PM  

flappy_penguin: GrogSmash: Good for Cuba.  The article suggests it has a damned well funded and functional vaccine development program.  If it passes stage 3, that will be a huge boost for its devestated econ.  In the long run...  it could spell good things.

The embargo is so farking stupid


Yeah. This. Goddammit so much.
 
2021-04-11 11:07:32 PM  

GrogSmash: Good for Cuba.  The article suggests it has a damned well funded and functional vaccine development program.  If it passes stage 3, that will be a huge boost for its devestated econ.  In the long run...  it could spell good things.


From what I have gathered over the years, Cuba has done ok in the science-ing, considering the Situation they find themselves in. I have read more than a few articles about Cuban doctors and scientist contributing to causes or scientific literature, and in fields that are sometimes obscure and not practical to a government short on funds and ideology.
 
2021-04-11 11:24:45 PM  

wesmon: kbronsito: WalkingSedgwick: GrogSmash: If it passes stage 3, that will be a huge boost for its devestated econ. In the long run... it could spell good things.

If it does work, Washington will kneecap any Monroe Doctrine-area country that dares buy it.

The Americas are a protected market area for US Pharma and the emergence of non-US competition is not tolerated.


Cuba already exports the pharmaceuticals and vaccines they develop to dozens of countries. A couple of their vaccines are actually better than American or European counterparts when it comes to the percentage of prevention they offer (not to mention price). No one in Latin America is buying the Cuban Covid vaccines yet only because it hasn't been approved. But several countries went with the Chinese and Russian versions. Considering how Russia may be controlling news about their own vaccine success at home, the best bet to get some good data on it will be to wait for Argentina's vaccination program to get going. They've been getting shipments of it since Feb.

The Lancet did a study of the Russian vaccine and found it surprisingly good.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lan​cet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00234-8/f​ulltext


I'm not going to read it, but I will immediately question any day sources they used. Especially given recent news.

It's not that I don't care, or will be willfully ignorant. It's that I'm day drinking, and don't feel like trying to parse technical data right now.
 
2021-04-11 11:26:38 PM  

wesmon: theflatline: kbronsito: WalkingSedgwick: GrogSmash: If it passes stage 3, that will be a huge boost for its devestated econ. In the long run... it could spell good things.

If it does work, Washington will kneecap any Monroe Doctrine-area country that dares buy it.

The Americas are a protected market area for US Pharma and the emergence of non-US competition is not tolerated.


Cuba already exports the pharmaceuticals and vaccines they develop to dozens of countries. A couple of their vaccines are actually better than American or European counterparts when it comes to the percentage of prevention they offer (not to mention price). No one in Latin America is buying the Cuban Covid vaccines yet only because it hasn't been approved. But several countries went with the Chinese and Russian versions. Considering how Russia may be controlling news about their own vaccine success at home, the best bet to get some good data on it will be to wait for Argentina's vaccination program to get going. They've been getting shipments of it since Feb.

You mean how the Argentine president got covid despite having used the Russian vaccine.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/04/america​s/argentina-alberto-fernndez-covid-19-​sputnik-vaccine-intl-latam/index.html

Are you really that dense? None of the vaccines prevent Covid, they mitigate the conditions.


Are you really that dense? Vaccines actually prevent infections to regular environmental exposure. Some individuals will fail to develop a full immune response.
 
2021-04-11 11:32:39 PM  

Wing Kong Exchange Day Trader: GrogSmash: Good for Cuba.  The article suggests it has a damned well funded and functional vaccine development program.  If it passes stage 3, that will be a huge boost for its devestated econ.  In the long run...  it could spell good things.

From what I have gathered over the years, Cuba has done ok in the science-ing, considering the Situation they find themselves in. I have read more than a few articles about Cuban doctors and scientist contributing to causes or scientific literature, and in fields that are sometimes obscure and not practical to a government short on funds and ideology.


The USA keeps trying to make Cuba look bad. Cuba send doctors and medicine to civilians in the countries the USA bombs the shiat out of. The USA does not like that, in Africa and southeast Asia. The USA sued to ahte that, because it proved to civlians that Communism was about civilian life while Capitalism was about funding war. The fact is, Cuba has been a world leader in medicine. Not merely "good considering the embargo" but "really really good."
 
2021-04-12 12:12:03 AM  

flappy_penguin: GrogSmash: Good for Cuba.  The article suggests it has a damned well funded and functional vaccine development program.  If it passes stage 3, that will be a huge boost for its devestated econ.  In the long run...  it could spell good things.

The embargo is so farking stupid


It's only been 50 years. It takes a while for an embargo to start working.
 
2021-04-12 12:52:29 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: Wing Kong Exchange Day Trader: GrogSmash: Good for Cuba.  The article suggests it has a damned well funded and functional vaccine development program.  If it passes stage 3, that will be a huge boost for its devestated econ.  In the long run...  it could spell good things.

From what I have gathered over the years, Cuba has done ok in the science-ing, considering the Situation they find themselves in. I have read more than a few articles about Cuban doctors and scientist contributing to causes or scientific literature, and in fields that are sometimes obscure and not practical to a government short on funds and ideology.

The USA keeps trying to make Cuba look bad. Cuba send doctors and medicine to civilians in the countries the USA bombs the shiat out of. The USA does not like that, in Africa and southeast Asia. The USA sued to ahte that, because it proved to civlians that Communism was about civilian life while Capitalism was about funding war. The fact is, Cuba has been a world leader in medicine. Not merely "good considering the embargo" but "really really good."


Cuban medicine and doctors are actually a thing.
 
2021-04-12 1:44:33 AM  
Cuba has one of the highest number of trained doctors of any country. They don't have much in the way of medicines or hospital equipment or food.
Many trained doctors in Cuba are running taxis or tending bar because the pay is better.
I would rather have to the Cuban vaccine than the Chinese or Russian one.
 
2021-04-12 2:30:09 AM  
Once this COVID crap is over, I recommend visiting Cuba. I have and learned a lot from them. What makes it a good country to understand knowing what they are poor at vs talented at, in many cases polar opposite to the US. One of their top skills is improvisation. When something is broken, they go full on MacGyver and make it work. Their health care and education is an example of that.  This is why they outdo otherwise very well funded and competent countries with so little help. Plus, they never complain about their problems.
 
2021-04-12 10:54:11 AM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: flappy_penguin: GrogSmash: Good for Cuba.  The article suggests it has a damned well funded and functional vaccine development program.  If it passes stage 3, that will be a huge boost for its devestated econ.  In the long run...  it could spell good things.

The embargo is so farking stupid

It's only been 50 years. It takes a while for an embargo to start working.


Just like trickle-down economics.
 
2021-04-12 6:05:22 PM  
The US should be working with Cuba to get the Caribbean nations vaccinated, because they are tourism-dependent.

Also, this would be a very productive way for the two countries to finally stop being dicks to each other.

Seriously, enough is efarkingnuff.
 
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