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2021-04-11 11:44:52 AM  
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2021-04-11 11:51:08 AM  
I mean, basically every band where the lead player(s) didn't die are going to wear out their magic eventually.

Unless you quit on top (super rare) or are a couple-off supergroup.
 
2021-04-11 11:51:45 AM  
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2021-04-11 12:23:08 PM  
Metallica sucks.
They promote infofeudalism which harms representative governance.

Fark 'em.
 
2021-04-11 12:40:27 PM  
 I expected to see The Final Cut. Thing is, half of those songs were originally meant for The Wall.
 
2021-04-11 12:50:55 PM  
Boston 'Don't Look Back'
Led Zeppelin 'In Through the Out Door'
Blue Oyster Cult 'Mirrors'
 
2021-04-11 12:53:09 PM  
Let's not leave rap out of this.

Snoop went from west coast gangsta rap straight to this abomination of what in the actual fark am I listening to album?

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2021-04-11 1:04:31 PM  
Also this one will get a lot of shiat.. But if we're talking "at the time".. This was a massive fail and only recovered as time passed.

When released was  the biggest flop in followup history..

Over time to bake in it is now considered the gold standard of Weezer recordings.

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2021-04-11 1:21:53 PM  

dickfreckle: I expected to see The Final Cut. Thing is, half of those songs were originally meant for The Wall.


While it obviously wasn't in the same league as The Wall, I thought it was still pretty decent on its own. And still way above anything that the band that continued to call itself "Pink Floyd" despite Roger Waters' departure produced thereafter.
 
2021-04-11 1:34:02 PM  
Adore - The Smashing Pumpkins (1998)

Disagree. The Pumpkins (in their original 1988-2000) iteration transcended being 'a simple rock band' because they chose to evolve styles from one album to the next. After going from grunge Gish to straight rock Siamese Dream to a giant double-, quasi-concept album in Mellon Collie, the rock path was exhausted. Another shot at a rock evolution could only have ended up being disappointing. Pivoting to a totally new direction was the right choice -- particularly as they no longer had Jimmy Chamberlin in the band.

If we're going to talk disappointing Smashing Pumpkins, the subject is Billy's halfassed 'revival' of the band (name) in the mid-00s. And/or how he himself has 'evolved' from being an egocentric asshole with a ton of talent to back it up in the 90s, to now having just a shell of his former talent and being a conspiracy theory-driven loon on top of that. Die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain indeed.
 
2021-04-11 1:58:16 PM  

NeedlesslyCanadian: Adore - The Smashing Pumpkins (1998)

Disagree. The Pumpkins (in their original 1988-2000) iteration transcended being 'a simple rock band' because they chose to evolve styles from one album to the next. After going from grunge Gish to straight rock Siamese Dream to a giant double-, quasi-concept album in Mellon Collie, the rock path was exhausted. Another shot at a rock evolution could only have ended up being disappointing. Pivoting to a totally new direction was the right choice -- particularly as they no longer had Jimmy Chamberlin in the band.

If we're going to talk disappointing Smashing Pumpkins, the subject is Billy's halfassed 'revival' of the band (name) in the mid-00s. And/or how he himself has 'evolved' from being an egocentric asshole with a ton of talent to back it up in the 90s, to now having just a shell of his former talent and being a conspiracy theory-driven loon on top of that. Die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain indeed.


Pretty much this.. While you could tangibly feel Billy's unwarranted self importance on the followups they were still decent albums. They somehow manged to pull it together. Then he went full tilt ego flexing asshole with nothing to back it up with. He thought he was the Trent Reznor of emotional alternative heavy music when he was just really a corny emo moron with very little artistic value as a whole who secretly wanted to be a pro-wrestler.. Hence he had to revive Smashing Pumpkins because he ego threw away his source of income. Even then, he couldn't let his ego go and even farked that up. He's one of the biggest asshole in rock music
 
2021-04-11 2:59:08 PM  
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Bat Out Of Hell was a huge hit, but when it came to recording the follow up album Meatloaf just couldn't sing, just couldn't do it. So Steinman sang, and his voice just isn't the same. The album did okay, but it wasn't Bat Out Of Hell.
 
2021-04-11 3:24:32 PM  

styckx: when he was just really a corny emo moron with very little artistic value as a whole


But enough about Morrissey.
 
2021-04-11 3:38:10 PM  

Purple_Urkle: Metallica sucks.
They promote infofeudalism which harms representative governance.

Fark 'em.


Then we probably shouldn't be friends then. They are one of my favorite bands.
 
2021-04-11 3:49:04 PM  

dickfreckle: I expected to see The Final Cut. Thing is, half of those songs were originally meant for The Wall.


Yeah, it's a really good album. Maybe not "great" like DSotM, WYWH, or The Wall, but at least as good as Animals.
 
2021-04-11 3:56:14 PM  
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2021-04-11 3:56:54 PM  

styckx: Also this one will get a lot of shiat.. But if we're talking "at the time".. This was a massive fail and only recovered as time passed.

When released was  the biggest flop in followup history..

Over time to bake in it is now considered the gold standard of Weezer recordings.

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Weezer - SNL
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2021-04-11 3:58:05 PM  
Beathoven's Tenth Symphony
 
2021-04-11 3:58:56 PM  
Not that Short Bus is a classic album by any means.
Just the first thing that popped into my head.
 
2021-04-11 3:59:19 PM  
Draw the Line was unfocused but there's some good tracks on it.  The subsequent tour, fighting between Steven and Joe with a thrown together live album should have been the sign that this was the last of the good times for Aerosmith.
 
2021-04-11 3:59:39 PM  

styckx: Also this one will get a lot of shiat.. But if we're talking "at the time".. This was a massive fail and only recovered as time passed.

When released was  the biggest flop in followup history..

Over time to bake in it is now considered the gold standard of Weezer recordings.

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Great album. When I was young this is the album you'd recommend to a friend going through a rough breakup.
 
2021-04-11 4:01:10 PM  

Purple_Urkle: Metallica sucks.
They promote infofeudalism which harms representative governance.

Fark 'em.


Is this a new way of framing the Napster discussion?  They...actively support the actual spread of knowledge through their charitable work?
 
2021-04-11 4:02:16 PM  

styckx: Also this one will get a lot of shiat.. But if we're talking "at the time".. This was a massive fail and only recovered as time passed.

When released was  the biggest flop in followup history..

Over time to bake in it is now considered the gold standard of Weezer recordings.

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I guess.  I remember liking Pinkerton more than the Blue album when it came out, and I knew several other people who felt the same.  I know it didn't have top 40 hits like the Blue album.
 
2021-04-11 4:04:44 PM  
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2021-04-11 4:05:58 PM  

envirovore: Not that Short Bus is a classic album by any means.
Just the first thing that popped into my head.


I like Short Bus better because it's more in my musical wheelhouse, but Title of Record had their biggest hit of their career on it so I wouldn't call it a disappointing follow-up at all.
 
2021-04-11 4:06:38 PM  

bearded clamorer: Led Zeppelin 'In Through the Out Door'


I like 'In Through the Out Door'.
 
2021-04-11 4:13:40 PM  
Even though it had the hit, 'We Will Rock You/We are the Champions', 'News of the World' was a pretty lame follow up to 'Day at the Races' for Queen.
 
2021-04-11 4:29:07 PM  
The Who had the following run: Tommy -> Who's Next -> Quadrophenia. The follow-up to Quadrophenia? Who By Numbers. It's good music, but a big big drop-off from Quadrophenia.
 
2021-04-11 4:29:53 PM  
The black album will always be the absolute worst follow up to a masterpiece. Yeah, I said it. Justice is a masterpiece. Irrelevant now because fark Metallica. Especially Lars.
 
2021-04-11 4:32:41 PM  
Not bad, exactly, but coming on the heels of a fantastic debut, maybe a little too soon to jump to a different tack

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2021-04-11 4:37:18 PM  
Again, not bad, but a bit mediocre compared to Aftermath

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2021-04-11 4:41:19 PM  

Muta: bearded clamorer: Led Zeppelin 'In Through the Out Door'

I like 'In Through the Out Door'.


THIS. It's my go-to LZ album along with Physical Graffiti.
 
2021-04-11 4:43:58 PM  

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As a kid who got into Yes via 90210, saw the concert film, and then went back into the older albums to seek out stuff like "Starship Trooper" and "All Good People" and "Roundabout" that had wowed me as well, I was so ready for this one to drop.  I was at the record store the day it came out.

That might very well have been the last day I listened to it too.  Definitely the last week.
 
2021-04-11 4:47:35 PM  
Cage's 36'24'36.
 
2021-04-11 5:02:42 PM  

Billy Liar: Again, not bad, but a bit mediocre compared to Aftermath

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Suffers similarly.
 
2021-04-11 5:03:03 PM  

Muta: bearded clamorer: Led Zeppelin 'In Through the Out Door'

I like 'In Through the Out Door'.


I see it as a transitional album that became a final album because Zep isn't Zep without Bonham. Anyway, it followed not one but a series of classic albums. Same story with Technical Ecstasy, Goat's Head Soup, and Let it Be. These are not bad albums, just far short of what they follow.
 
2021-04-11 5:03:28 PM  

Muta: Even though it had the hit, 'We Will Rock You/We are the Champions', 'News of the World' was a pretty lame follow up to 'Day at the Races' for Queen.


agree, I also feel Foreigners "Double Vision" was quite disappointing compared to their debut album
 
2021-04-11 5:14:00 PM  
Load was garbage but not because it followed up a "classic."  The black album was garbage, too, subs.
 
2021-04-11 5:15:11 PM  
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2021-04-11 5:17:28 PM  

styckx: Also this one will get a lot of shiat.. But if we're talking "at the time".. This was a massive fail and only recovered as time passed.

When released was  the biggest flop in followup history..

Over time to bake in it is now considered the gold standard of Weezer recordings.

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Agreed. It is the gold-standard of Weezer Albums.

Pinkerton sucks. Always has, always will. As has every album of theirs since.

And the Blue Album wasn't all that either.
 
2021-04-11 5:17:40 PM  
The Final Cut is extremely underrated.  It is a fantastic album
 
2021-04-11 5:22:04 PM  

cowboybebop: The Who had the following run: Tommy -> Who's Next -> Quadrophenia. The follow-up to Quadrophenia? Who By Numbers. It's good music, but a big big drop-off from Quadrophenia.


Stevie Wonder

Music Of My Mind
Talking Book
Innervisions
Fulfillingness First Finale
Songs in the Key of Life

His next studio album would be Journey Through The Secret Life of Plants
 
2021-04-11 5:22:45 PM  
And Justice for All sucked except for One. It was the prequel to their Pots and Pans album 'St. Anger'
 
2021-04-11 5:23:15 PM  
Flincher:

/runs laughing maniacally
 
2021-04-11 5:24:18 PM  

GRCooper: dickfreckle: I expected to see The Final Cut. Thing is, half of those songs were originally meant for The Wall.

Yeah, it's a really good album. Maybe not "great" like DSotM, WYWH, or The Wall, but at least as good as Animals.


Ahahahaha...
Oh wait, you're serious?
 
2021-04-11 5:24:29 PM  

Flincher: And Justice for All sucked except for One. It was the prequel to their Pots and Pans album 'St. Anger'


The songs were good.  The production was shiat.  Never leave Lars alone at the board.
 
2021-04-11 5:25:50 PM  

Truthman: GRCooper: dickfreckle: I expected to see The Final Cut. Thing is, half of those songs were originally meant for The Wall.

Yeah, it's a really good album. Maybe not "great" like DSotM, WYWH, or The Wall, but at least as good as Animals.

Ahahahaha...
Oh wait, you're serious?


Completely. Apart from Not Now John, there's nothing on the album I don't love.
 
2021-04-11 5:28:36 PM  

Snapper Carr: The Final Cut is extremely underrated.  It is a fantastic album


Meh. It sounds precisely like what it is, rejects from the wall cobbled together for Water's first solo album. Gilmour admitted to phoning it in, Mason was barely involved, and Wright had been fired by then. Just MHO of course.
 
2021-04-11 5:29:33 PM  
How do you follow up Blonde on Blonde?

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Or Blood on the Tracks?

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2021-04-11 5:30:28 PM  

Snapper Carr: Flincher: And Justice for All sucked except for One. It was the prequel to their Pots and Pans album 'St. Anger'

The songs were good.  The production was shiat.  Never leave Lars alone at the board.


He needed a flat surface for his "tempo dust" IYKWIMAITYD. The man has slowly unlearned how to play the drums over the last 20 years.
 
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