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(Guardian)   A challenger appears to defend A View to a Kill as not a bad Bond movie. Walken tag would instantly help his defense, but Subby would say crummier Bond films in the years following have DANCED INTO THE FIRE   (theguardian.com) divider line
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2021-04-10 6:34:17 PM  
It was Dolph Lundgren's first movie... Walken is the bad guy... I mean. What's to defend. It's good fun.
 
2021-04-10 6:44:01 PM  
Whatever the one is with Denise Richards. Man, that stunk.
 
2021-04-10 6:49:33 PM  

gopher321: Whatever the one is with Denise Richards. Man, that stunk.


The World Is Not Enough
 
2021-04-10 6:54:19 PM  
Just sayin'... I have a friend, some kind of French royalty. His childhood home is featured in a long intro scene (heli shot)... it's not a small place... Anyway, that's enough to redeem this flick... unless it was in Octopussy
 
2021-04-10 7:03:54 PM  
That film doesn't need to be defended, it's a perfectly fine Bond outing.
You know which need a defense?

1. The one with Madonna , having her in the cast immediately put it in the absolute GARBAGE pile. (Then it had many other problems)
2. The one with with Charlie Sheen's former fark piece playing "SCIENTIST." And don't give me any Dr. Goodhead or Pussy Galore, they were played by actresses who rose above the silly names. Denise is just embarrassing to watch.
3. OHMSS, a waste of  Diana Rigg and Bond played as unbearable British twit by an imbecile.
4. The Dalton duo, one almost competent the other a Miami Vice script someone fished out of a waste basket.
 
2021-04-10 7:04:37 PM  
I've always been under the impression that "A View To A Kill" was considered one of the better Bond films anyway. Was this wrong?
 
2021-04-10 7:05:37 PM  

Bslim: 3. OHMSS, a waste of  Diana Rigg and Bond played as unbearable British twit by an imbecile.


Oh, it's on.
 
2021-04-10 7:07:18 PM  
There's nothing like a good Fark perennial "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" battle thread on a Saturday night!
 
2021-04-10 7:18:52 PM  
Here are some reasons On Her Majesty's Secret Service is a good Bond movie.

1. Two great songs, when many Bond movies can't even manage one. The opening theme, which is the second-greatest instrumental opening song in all of the Bond movies, and "We Have All The Time In The World", sung by Louis Armstrong.

2. The greatest Bond Girl. Diana Rigg is, I think, still the only Bond girl who was a legitimate action star in her own right. It's just bonus that she was a great actress and extraordinarily beautiful. And her character is the only Bond girl in history to get Bond to put a ring on it. That has to count for something.

3. Great Bad Guy Lair. That was a ski lodge that was just nearing completion. It still looks amazing, and must have been mind-blowing to see that back in the day on the big screen, a location never seen before by any audience, or even yet by tourists.

4. Bond in a kilt. Come on.
 
2021-04-10 7:25:05 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: Here are some reasons On Her Majesty's Secret Service is a good Bond movie.

1. Two great songs, when many Bond movies can't even manage one. The opening theme, which is the second-greatest instrumental opening song in all of the Bond movies, and "We Have All The Time In The World", sung by Louis Armstrong.

2. The greatest Bond Girl. Diana Rigg is, I think, still the only Bond girl who was a legitimate action star in her own right. It's just bonus that she was a great actress and extraordinarily beautiful. And her character is the only Bond girl in history to get Bond to put a ring on it. That has to count for something.

3. Great Bad Guy Lair. That was a ski lodge that was just nearing completion. It still looks amazing, and must have been mind-blowing to see that back in the day on the big screen, a location never seen before by any audience, or even yet by tourists.

4. Bond in a kilt. Come on.


Hey those are all good individual elements, especially Diana. But the film, as a whole, is just unwatchable, Lazenby is just horribly out of his element.
 
2021-04-10 7:27:16 PM  
This never happened to the other fellow.
 
2021-04-10 7:29:24 PM  

Bslim: That film doesn't need to be defended, it's a perfectly fine Bond outing.
You know which need a defense?

1. The one with Madonna , having her in the cast immediately put it in the absolute GARBAGE pile. (Then it had many other problems)
2. The one with with Charlie Sheen's former fark piece playing "SCIENTIST." And don't give me any Dr. Goodhead or Pussy Galore, they were played by actresses who rose above the silly names. Denise is just embarrassing to watch.
3. OHMSS, a waste of  Diana Rigg and Bond played as unbearable British twit by an imbecile.
4. The Dalton duo, one almost competent the other a Miami Vice script someone fished out of a waste basket.


Bambi and Thumper would agree

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2021-04-10 7:46:54 PM  

Bslim: Hey those are all good individual elements, especially Diana. But the film, as a whole, is just unwatchable, Lazenby is just horribly out of his element.


And I forgot to say that, while admittedly the first 2/3rds of the movie are slow, the last 45 minutes is almost solid action. There's a car chase on an ice rink, where at least one crash looks like a car came inches from hitting spectators in the crowd. And the terribly gross death of the bad guy skier who jumps into the... well, I better not spoil it for those who haven't seen it, but it's disgusting and hilarious.

In my opinion, Lazenby wouldn't have had such a bad rep had he followed anyone else but Connery. Connery as James Bond is a hard act to follow. That's part of the reason I always point out those other elements, because it seems to me the producers tried to go to the wall and make a high quality film. A new James Bond was going to be a hard sell no matter how hard you cut it. I tend to imagine that lot of Bond fans back in the day just watched the film in theaters and spent every minute thinking that poor Sean Connery was out on a food line somewhere and resenting mean George Lazenby for forcing him out of the role. So, the producers upped it on all the other factors, and I personally think it shows.

There are a lot worse Bond movies, too. When you think of all those non-Bond actor elements; girl, music, effects, action, locations, ect. is something like "Diamonds Are Forever" really better?

I'm trying to block out the one where Brosnan was riding a giant wave in an invisible car. I think that's what happened, but like I said, I'm trying to forget that one existed.
 
2021-04-10 7:50:27 PM  
A View to a Kill isn't even the worst Roger Moore Bond movie

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2021-04-10 7:58:42 PM  
Granted, there may be a heavy dose of nostalgia involved, but I always loved A View to a Kill. Didn't really like anything after Roger Moore until Daniel Craig.
 
2021-04-10 8:14:31 PM  

gopher321: Whatever the one is with Denise Richards. Man, that stunk.


She is not capable of playing an intelligent person like a scientist. 
That is not so much her fault as it is her fault.
 
2021-04-10 8:18:16 PM  
It's a perfectly fun and dumb Roger Moore era Bond movie. No defense needed.

Now if anyone wants to defend the Daniel Craig one that turns into Home Alone in the 3rd act, give it a go, because that was trash.
 
2021-04-10 8:21:30 PM  

gopher321: Whatever the one is with Denise Richards. Man, that stunk.


Sophie Marceau was terrible too. She even managed to suck the fun out of the wait for the "the world is not enough" money shot, with the wooden delivery.

/no jokes about bond's wood. stop that.
 
2021-04-10 9:01:06 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: Bslim: Hey those are all good individual elements, especially Diana. But the film, as a whole, is just unwatchable, Lazenby is just horribly out of his element.

And I forgot to say that, while admittedly the first 2/3rds of the movie are slow, the last 45 minutes is almost solid action. There's a car chase on an ice rink, where at least one crash looks like a car came inches from hitting spectators in the crowd. And the terribly gross death of the bad guy skier who jumps into the... well, I better not spoil it for those who haven't seen it, but it's disgusting and hilarious.

In my opinion, Lazenby wouldn't have had such a bad rep had he followed anyone else but Connery. Connery as James Bond is a hard act to follow. That's part of the reason I always point out those other elements, because it seems to me the producers tried to go to the wall and make a high quality film. A new James Bond was going to be a hard sell no matter how hard you cut it. I tend to imagine that lot of Bond fans back in the day just watched the film in theaters and spent every minute thinking that poor Sean Connery was out on a food line somewhere and resenting mean George Lazenby for forcing him out of the role. So, the producers upped it on all the other factors, and I personally think it shows.

There are a lot worse Bond movies, too. When you think of all those non-Bond actor elements; girl, music, effects, action, locations, ect. is something like "Diamonds Are Forever" really better?

I'm trying to block out the one where Brosnan was riding a giant wave in an invisible car. I think that's what happened, but like I said, I'm trying to forget that one existed.


Diamonds Are Forever can be used as an example sure. Taken apart it should be objectively a worse film than OHMSS, except for one thing, doughy phoning-it-in Connery is one hundred times the actor than Lazenby was. I could sit right now and watch it Diamonds all the way through and feel entertained.
To *me* Lazenby is wretched to watch, he's terrible. He just is, he's not charming, he's not engaging, h most definitely is not a thug in a suit. What the hell were they thinking?

*Not too fond of Savalas as Blofeld either.
 
2021-04-10 10:17:55 PM  

NewportBarGuy: It was Dolph Lundgren's first movie... Walken is the bad guy... I mean. What's to defend. It's good fun.


Speaking of good fun, the Duran Duran music video for the theme song is a wonderful slice of '80s cheese:

Duran Duran - A View To A Kill
Youtube Fp4CR2HcHLQ
 
2021-04-10 10:20:04 PM  

gopher321: Whatever the one is with Denise Richards. Man, that stunk.


Halle Berry one was terribad.
 
2021-04-10 10:21:17 PM  

gameshowhost: gopher321: Whatever the one is with Denise Richards. Man, that stunk.

Sophie Marceau was terrible too. She even managed to suck the fun out of the wait for the "the world is not enough" money shot, with the wooden delivery.

/no jokes about bond's wood. stop that.


The music video was a better Bond film than the movie was.  If that movie has one redeeming quality, it's that Garbage put together a damn good song for the theme.

Garbage - The World Is Not Enough
Youtube eI7KxEerCYo
 
2021-04-10 10:22:37 PM  
It's a cheesy Bond movie and all in great fun.  Because cheese!
 
2021-04-10 10:39:39 PM  

thatguyoverthere70: I've always been under the impression that "A View To A Kill" was considered one of the better Bond films anyway. Was this wrong?


No, you're right. Love it! Walken and Tanya Roberts with Duran Duran? Hell yeah!
 
2021-04-10 10:41:25 PM  
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2021-04-10 10:44:18 PM  

Flincher: gopher321: Whatever the one is with Denise Richards. Man, that stunk.

Halle Berry one was terribad.


Can't believe they were actively trying to get a Jinx spinoff going. Unless it was a comedy, her delivery was not much different than Denise Richards as scientician whateverherface.
 
2021-04-10 10:44:47 PM  

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2021-04-10 10:48:31 PM  

Polish Hussar: gameshowhost: gopher321: Whatever the one is with Denise Richards. Man, that stunk.

Sophie Marceau was terrible too. She even managed to suck the fun out of the wait for the "the world is not enough" money shot, with the wooden delivery.

/no jokes about bond's wood. stop that.

The music video was a better Bond film than the movie was.  If that movie has one redeeming quality, it's that Garbage put together a damn good song for the theme.

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If we're rating the theme songs then You Only Live Twice has got to be one of the best.
Nancy Sinatra - You Only Live Twice (HQ)
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And Skyfall is up there as well.
 
2021-04-10 10:51:32 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Polish Hussar: gameshowhost: gopher321: Whatever the one is with Denise Richards. Man, that stunk.

Sophie Marceau was terrible too. She even managed to suck the fun out of the wait for the "the world is not enough" money shot, with the wooden delivery.

/no jokes about bond's wood. stop that.

The music video was a better Bond film than the movie was.  If that movie has one redeeming quality, it's that Garbage put together a damn good song for the theme.

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If we're rating the theme songs then You Only Live Twice has got to be one of the best.
[YouTube video: Nancy Sinatra - You Only Live Twice (HQ)]

And Skyfall is up there as well.


It's pretty solid but to me the Bondiest of the Bond themes is

GoldFINGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR TADATADATAA!
 
2021-04-10 11:10:23 PM  

Bslim: Carter Pewterschmidt: Polish Hussar: gameshowhost: gopher321: Whatever the one is with Denise Richards. Man, that stunk.

Sophie Marceau was terrible too. She even managed to suck the fun out of the wait for the "the world is not enough" money shot, with the wooden delivery.

/no jokes about bond's wood. stop that.

The music video was a better Bond film than the movie was.  If that movie has one redeeming quality, it's that Garbage put together a damn good song for the theme.

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If we're rating the theme songs then You Only Live Twice has got to be one of the best.
[YouTube video: Nancy Sinatra - You Only Live Twice (HQ)]

And Skyfall is up there as well.

It's pretty solid but to me the Bondiest of the Bond themes is

GoldFINGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR TADATADATAA!


If you did a chart of the franchise where you aggregated the quality score of a Bond film and its theme, I think both "Goldfinger" and "Skyfall" would be pretty close to the top.
 
2021-04-10 11:15:55 PM  

Polish Hussar: gameshowhost: gopher321: Whatever the one is with Denise Richards. Man, that stunk.

Sophie Marceau was terrible too. She even managed to suck the fun out of the wait for the "the world is not enough" money shot, with the wooden delivery.

/no jokes about bond's wood. stop that.

The music video was a better Bond film than the movie was. If that movie has one redeeming quality, it's that Garbage put together a damn good song for the theme.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/eI7KxEer​CYo]


Oh god yeah.
 
2021-04-10 11:21:29 PM  
My favorite Bond theme is probably from The Spy Who Loved Me.

But damn if Cornell didn't straight up pull off the best theme. Franchise reset from decades of corny-fun kinda-serious medium budget to straight up badass blockbuster with much more serious acting, and the song absolutely nails the new attitude.

Casino Royale - Chris Cornell - You Know My Name
Youtube YnzgdBAKyJo
 
2021-04-10 11:23:55 PM  
also it's a damn shame Goldfrapp still hasn't gotten a shot at a Bond theme
 
2021-04-10 11:30:58 PM  
Diamonds are Forever is THE best silly Bond movie, third best overall in my book -- For Your Eyes Only and From Russia With Love are better, and GoldenEye is a close fourth. And if you wanted to make a serious film from an earlier, silly Bond movie, here's one of the best flip candidates (the other I would say is The Man With the Golden Gun).

1. It's the silly and cheesy Vegas of Fear & Loathing era, before it got seedy, then family friendly, then something seedy and excessive.

2. Sean Connery is not giving a fark and having fun with it, which rubs off, unlike Thunderball (monotonous) and You Only Live Twice (overrated crap), where Connery is too serious or appearing weary of the role. This also helps his Never Say Never Again appearance as well, which also scores high in my book because it's flamboyant as all hell.

3. The opening song rocks, pun intended.

4. Jill St. John is hot redhead Bond girl, and she does airhead mob moll well too.

5. Two GAY wisecracking henchmen, Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd, who not only nearly kill Bond TWICE (if it wasn't for the mobster wanting to know the whereabouts of the diamonds Bond is cremated in the coffin with no Q device to save him), they also inspire a lot of sassy gay characters in fiction for years. Off the top of my head, The Venture Bros. Shore Leave and Al the Alchemist; Ray in Archer from animation. Quite ahead of their time too. They were also competent evil bastards in Fleming's novel, if I recall, though they met a more serious end.

6. A great little chase through downtown Las Vegas as it was being built. The Union Plaza (Back to the Future 2's Biff's; also used as Randall Flagg's palace in the TV version of The Stand) is being constructed in the background of multiple shots.

7. Howard Hughes is supposed to be the recluse who Blofeld assumes control over. Hughes had bought and isolated himself in a Vegas casino IRL at the time as he descended further into madness.
 
2021-04-10 11:41:57 PM  

Practical_Draconian: Diamonds are Forever is THE best silly Bond movie, third best overall in my book -- For Your Eyes Only and From Russia With Love are better, and GoldenEye is a close fourth. And if you wanted to make a serious film from an earlier, silly Bond movie, here's one of the best flip candidates (the other I would say is The Man With the Golden Gun).

1. It's the silly and cheesy Vegas of Fear & Loathing era, before it got seedy, then family friendly, then something seedy and excessive.

2. Sean Connery is not giving a fark and having fun with it, which rubs off, unlike Thunderball (monotonous) and You Only Live Twice (overrated crap), where Connery is too serious or appearing weary of the role. This also helps his Never Say Never Again appearance as well, which also scores high in my book because it's flamboyant as all hell.

3. The opening song rocks, pun intended.

4. Jill St. John is hot redhead Bond girl, and she does airhead mob moll well too.

5. Two GAY wisecracking henchmen, Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd, who not only nearly kill Bond TWICE (if it wasn't for the mobster wanting to know the whereabouts of the diamonds Bond is cremated in the coffin with no Q device to save him), they also inspire a lot of sassy gay characters in fiction for years. Off the top of my head, The Venture Bros. Shore Leave and Al the Alchemist; Ray in Archer from animation. Quite ahead of their time too. They were also competent evil bastards in Fleming's novel, if I recall, though they met a more serious end.

6. A great little chase through downtown Las Vegas as it was being built. The Union Plaza (Back to the Future 2's Biff's; also used as Randall Flagg's palace in the TV version of The Stand) is being constructed in the background of multiple shots.

7. Howard Hughes is supposed to be the recluse who Blofeld assumes control over. Hughes had bought and isolated himself in a Vegas casino IRL at the time as he descended further into madness.


You forgot, Doctor Scott rocks!
It's a jump to the left....
 
2021-04-11 12:04:37 AM  

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2021-04-11 12:23:27 AM  

Polish Hussar: NewportBarGuy: It was Dolph Lundgren's first movie... Walken is the bad guy... I mean. What's to defend. It's good fun.

Speaking of good fun, the Duran Duran music video for the theme song is a wonderful slice of '80s cheese:

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I loved that for the opening theme song
 
2021-04-11 12:29:21 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: Bslim: Hey those are all good individual elements, especially Diana. But the film, as a whole, is just unwatchable, Lazenby is just horribly out of his element.

And I forgot to say that, while admittedly the first 2/3rds of the movie are slow, the last 45 minutes is almost solid action. There's a car chase on an ice rink, where at least one crash looks like a car came inches from hitting spectators in the crowd. And the terribly gross death of the bad guy skier who jumps into the... well, I better not spoil it for those who haven't seen it, but it's disgusting and hilarious.

In my opinion, Lazenby wouldn't have had such a bad rep had he followed anyone else but Connery. Connery as James Bond is a hard act to follow. That's part of the reason I always point out those other elements, because it seems to me the producers tried to go to the wall and make a high quality film. A new James Bond was going to be a hard sell no matter how hard you cut it. I tend to imagine that lot of Bond fans back in the day just watched the film in theaters and spent every minute thinking that poor Sean Connery was out on a food line somewhere and resenting mean George Lazenby for forcing him out of the role. So, the producers upped it on all the other factors, and I personally think it shows.

There are a lot worse Bond movies, too. When you think of all those non-Bond actor elements; girl, music, effects, action, locations, ect. is something like "Diamonds Are Forever" really better?

I'm trying to block out the one where Brosnan was riding a giant wave in an invisible car. I think that's what happened, but like I said, I'm trying to forget that one existed.


You may have already seen this:

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I enjoyed it; ran on Hulu for a long time, may still be there.  Talk about plucked from obscurity, Lazenby really was.
 
2021-04-11 12:30:11 AM  
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After you realize they used a painting for a re-shoot instead actually bothering to use Roger Moore in The Spy Who Loved Me, you can never unsee it.
 
2021-04-11 12:37:08 AM  
It's a bad movie, subject to its time.  I agree with the writer of TFA that Walken and Jones are the best parts.  It also featured Tanya Roberts in a silk bathrobe for the cheap seats.

You can't hit it out of the park with every instalment in a 50 year old franchise.
 
2021-04-11 1:34:53 AM  
While May Day was an impressive henchwoman, I'd say Barbara Carrera's Fatima Blush from Never Say Never Again takes the prize as the best bad Bond girl of the '80s with her crazy/hot act, and among the most flavorful female villains 007 has dealt with (and I'd say her death scene is one of the better ones).

Never Say Never Again (7/10) Movie CLIP - A Superior Woman (1983) HD
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2021-04-11 2:07:03 AM  

Practical_Draconian: While May Day was an impressive henchwoman, I'd say Barbara Carrera's Fatima Blush from Never Say Never Again takes the prize as the best bad Bond girl of the '80s with her crazy/hot act, and among the most flavorful female villains 007 has dealt with (and I'd say her death scene is one of the better ones).

[YouTube video: Never Say Never Again (7/10) Movie CLIP - A Superior Woman (1983) HD]


"I just remembered, we're not allowed to make endorsements."

It's not an official Bond film, unfortunately.
 
2021-04-11 2:08:07 AM  
Oh, duh, that's the clip you posted!
 
2021-04-11 2:35:08 AM  

Thunderboy: Practical_Draconian: While May Day was an impressive henchwoman, I'd say Barbara Carrera's Fatima Blush from Never Say Never Again takes the prize as the best bad Bond girl of the '80s with her crazy/hot act, and among the most flavorful female villains 007 has dealt with (and I'd say her death scene is one of the better ones).

[YouTube video: Never Say Never Again (7/10) Movie CLIP - A Superior Woman (1983) HD]

"I just remembered, we're not allowed to make endorsements."

It's not an official Bond film, unfortunately.


Since the rights to Bond properties scuffle ended with some folks' deaths and MGM bought the rights to the film, Never Say Never Again is now in the umbrella.

The makers of NSNA are the reason Blofeld and SPECTRE were no longer used as villains, as they held those characters' rights until the past decade. A vague "throwaway" gag on a crippled Blofeld (whose name is not uttered) in For Your Eyes Only was the main franchise's symbolic closure.

I don't even think SPECTRE was used in the GoldenEye game where you played as a traitor Double-0 agent in the employ of various Bond baddies such as Goldfinger and Scaramanga, with an implied Blofeld hiring you at the end of the game after defeating Dr. No.

/mediocre game, but can't deny the potential creativity of being a baddie working for Bond villains like Zorin, Stromberg, Whitaker the arms dealer, etc. who may be in league or warring with each other
 
2021-04-11 3:17:13 AM  

Torgo_of_Manos: A View to a Kill isn't even the worst Roger Moore Bond movie

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But that movie had one redeeming quality..

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2021-04-11 3:43:59 AM  
For some reason I thought Octopussy was Moore's last Bond flic.
Horrible movie, plain Bond girls, stupid title.
Def a contender for switching to a new actor.
 
2021-04-11 4:07:45 AM  
I liked it.

I mean, I'm not sure whether my opinion is an endorsement or an additional insult given that some of my favorite films are the original pre-CGI Godzilla flicks, but I liked View to Kill, thought it was good, and don't see why it needs "defending" particularly.

Was it the best Bond film?  No.  Was it high art that the kind of douchey critic who has an adopted british or french accent despite never leaving the borders of Chicago or whatever might approve of?  No.  Do either of those things matter even slightly in the context of what this kind of movie seeks to accomplish?  No, they do not.

Like... the fact that it was complete nonsense is more of a point in its favor than against, and if you think otherwise I can't necessarily argue with you because you're not obligated to like what I like, but I'd... gently propose that you are perhaps viewing it based on a bad set of assumptions more than the movie making some kind of mistake, and further suggest you think a bit harder on how you feel about all the other bond movies, which I would argue possess basically the same core appeal and target audience.
 
2021-04-11 4:18:33 AM  

Trik: For some reason I thought Octopussy was Moore's last Bond flic.
Horrible movie, plain Bond girls, stupid title.
Def a contender for switching to a new actor.


Not to mention: Bond disguised as a clown.

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Moonraker actually has a fantastic cold open (Bond knocked out of a plane without a parachute, then engaging in a mid-air fistfight to claim one of his assassins' chutes) ... but -- even though Drax's plan and the climactic Thunderball-esque laser battle in space were ridiculous -- IMO, the 'double take' pigeon in Venice was probably the film's lowest point:

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But (also IMO) it's Die Another Day which easily runs away with the title of 'worst Bond film' ... though -- like Moonraker -- it features a compelling cold open (culminating with Bond captured & tortured in North Korea) and continues to show promise for about 20 more minutes: Bond released in a prisoner exchange when MI6 suspects he's been broken ... making his own way to Hong Kong, and then Cuba ... using his 'Universal Exports' cover to activate a mole in Cuba; all fantastic stuff.

From the moment Halle Berry strolls out of the ocean in an orange 'Ursula Andress' bikini, the movie begins a slow-but-swiftly-accellerating slide into silliness ... Madonna as a fencing instructor, the 'Vanish' invisible car, Bond windsurfing in an iceberg-saturated tsunami, and -- just when you're thinking the villain's GoldenEye-esque satellite death ray is his ultimate weapon, he pulls out a literal 'Power Glove' which he uses to electrocute anyone he's particularly mad at!

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2021-04-11 4:29:19 AM  

Polish Hussar: Bslim: Carter Pewterschmidt: Polish Hussar: gameshowhost: gopher321: Whatever the one is with Denise Richards. Man, that stunk.

Sophie Marceau was terrible too. She even managed to suck the fun out of the wait for the "the world is not enough" money shot, with the wooden delivery.

/no jokes about bond's wood. stop that.

The music video was a better Bond film than the movie was.  If that movie has one redeeming quality, it's that Garbage put together a damn good song for the theme.

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If we're rating the theme songs then You Only Live Twice has got to be one of the best.
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And Skyfall is up there as well.

It's pretty solid but to me the Bondiest of the Bond themes is

GoldFINGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR TADATADATAA!

If you did a chart of the franchise where you aggregated the quality score of a Bond film and its theme, I think both "Goldfinger" and "Skyfall" would be pretty close to the top.


Concur, "Diamonds are Forever" is both my favorite Bond song and least favorite Bond film. "We have all the time in the World," is another GREAT song attached to the most meh movie in the series.
 
2021-04-11 6:15:26 AM  
As a safety inspector for SPECTRE, I hope Elon gets busy because I need the work recommending removing hand rails along balconies.
 
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