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(Nola.com)   Two New Orleans tattoo shop owners accused in a ransom plot that involved a threat to turn an Alabama Confederate monument into a toilet, and then it gets weird   (nola.com) divider line
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2021-04-10 11:14:32 AM  
"ornately carved stone relic"

Uhmm yeah a different article says it's just cast concrete. Also don't 'relics' by definition have to be of a certain age to qualify?

Turn it into a toilet. It's about the heritage
 
2021-04-10 11:30:33 AM  
Good job covering your unique arm tattoos before moving stolen property and getting caught on camera doing so.
 
2021-04-10 11:34:40 AM  
If that thing was really worth $500K it sure as shiat wouldn't be lying around in the cemetery.
 
2021-04-10 1:53:20 PM  
The news organization reported that the banner included a quote from Black Liberation Army activist Assata Shakur, who was linked to a New Jersey state trooper's murder in 1973: "The rulers of this country have always considered their property more important than our lives."

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/I find myself rooting for the "bad guys" here.
 
2021-04-10 2:16:05 PM  
A shame it was returned.  Next time, just destroy it.
 
2021-04-10 2:21:11 PM  

edmo: If that thing was really worth $500K it sure as shiat wouldn't be lying around in the cemetery.


Maybe it's "antiques road show" 500k?
 
2021-04-10 2:23:32 PM  

omg bbq: edmo: If that thing was really worth $500K it sure as shiat wouldn't be lying around in the cemetery.

Maybe it's "antiques road show" 500k?


That would be a Pawn Stars $50.
 
2021-04-10 2:25:03 PM  
To be perfectly fair, any Confederate monument is a toilet.
 
2021-04-10 2:27:15 PM  
Can we get a law where it's okay to break other laws if the results are hilarious? Maybe pay a fee/fine? Florida would make bank.
 
2021-04-10 2:28:21 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: The news organization reported that the banner included a quote from Black Liberation Army activist Assata Shakur, who was linked to a New Jersey state trooper's murder in 1973: "The rulers of this country have always considered their property more important than our lives."

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/I find myself rooting for the "bad guys" here.


So, you think killing American soldiers is the best thing in the world?  Ain't you just so treasonous.
 
2021-04-10 2:33:18 PM  
I thought that thing had been owned and used by Jefferson Davis during the war but it was commissioned in 1893 by some of his fangirls, there is no way it's worth $500 000 except maybe if it was built by a world renowned artist but there is no mention of the builder in the article.
 
2021-04-10 2:35:57 PM  
I really wanted to see it turned into a toilet.
 
2021-04-10 2:37:19 PM  

phalamir: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: The news organization reported that the banner included a quote from Black Liberation Army activist Assata Shakur, who was linked to a New Jersey state trooper's murder in 1973: "The rulers of this country have always considered their property more important than our lives."

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/I find myself rooting for the "bad guys" here.

So, you think killing American soldiers is the best thing in the world?  Ain't you just so treasonous.


Let's define the "bad guys" here.

-The people who started a treasonous war?
-The people who made a toilet to commemorate a person who started the treasonous war?
-The people who maintain and own the toilet that commemorates a person who started a treasonous war?
-The people who stole the toilet that commemorates a person who started a treasonous war?
 
2021-04-10 2:37:22 PM  

talkertopc: I thought that thing had been owned and used by Jefferson Davis during the war but it was commissioned in 1893 by some of his fangirls, there is no way it's worth $500 000 except maybe if it was built by a world renowned artist but there is no mention of the builder in the article.


"Prosecutors estimate its value at $500,000."

That value seems to be based on spite.
 
2021-04-10 2:38:35 PM  

Mock26: talkertopc: I thought that thing had been owned and used by Jefferson Davis during the war but it was commissioned in 1893 by some of his fangirls, there is no way it's worth $500 000 except maybe if it was built by a world renowned artist but there is no mention of the builder in the article.

"Prosecutors estimate its value at $500,000."

That value seems to be based on spite.


And the amount of cocaine the cops planned to sprinkle on it when they found it.
 
2021-04-10 2:38:45 PM  

edmo: If that thing was really worth $500K it sure as shiat wouldn't be lying around in the cemetery.


Beauty is in the eye of the buttholder
 
2021-04-10 2:39:11 PM  
Dumbasses deserved to get caught. It should have been dumped in the swamp on day 1, with only one person knowing the exact location. Go get it back if/when the demands were met.
 
2021-04-10 2:39:25 PM  
The third guy looks like Herman Munster
 
2021-04-10 2:39:34 PM  
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So, we've going to jail those solders that helped tear down that statue of Saddam Hussain too?  Or the ones that did this?
 
2021-04-10 2:41:27 PM  

NM Volunteer: A shame it was returned.  Next time, just destroy it.


Says the person that works as a museum director. Lol.
 
2021-04-10 2:42:49 PM  
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The look a little methed up.
 
2021-04-10 2:44:04 PM  

phalamir: So, you think killing American soldiers is the best thing in the world?  Ain't you just so treasonous.


Ok. To be fair I can see how what I wrote could be ambiguous.

To clarify: the "bad guys" in the article are the tattoo shop owners who likely stole the concrete seat. Assata Shakur's quote rings especially true here given the amount of investigative resources being poured into finding junk commemorating one of America's enemies.

In fact, I'm going to even go so far as to say the New Jersey state trooper killed in 1973 was probably a piece of sh*t who had it coming. The article's apparently framing is backwards, in my opinion.
 
2021-04-10 2:46:35 PM  

gar1013: [bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com image 777x283]

The look a little methed up.


Nah. It's a police mugshot, not Olan Mills. The photographer probably delights in getting unflattering angles.
 
2021-04-10 2:49:12 PM  

Mock26: talkertopc: I thought that thing had been owned and used by Jefferson Davis during the war but it was commissioned in 1893 by some of his fangirls, there is no way it's worth $500 000 except maybe if it was built by a world renowned artist but there is no mention of the builder in the article.

"Prosecutors estimate its value at $500,000."

That value seems to be based on spite.


Cop math.
 
2021-04-10 2:50:41 PM  
Should have busted it up into paver blocks
 
2021-04-10 2:56:13 PM  

gar1013: [bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com image 777x283]

The look a little methed up.


Told you....Herman Munster.
 
2021-04-10 2:57:11 PM  

Mock26: talkertopc: I thought that thing had been owned and used by Jefferson Davis during the war but it was commissioned in 1893 by some of his fangirls, there is no way it's worth $500 000 except maybe if it was built by a world renowned artist but there is no mention of the builder in the article.

"Prosecutors estimate its value at $500,000."

That value seems to be based on spite.


This of it this way. Say they did turn it into a toilet, and then they charged people to use it. I think they could ring up some fast cash.
 
2021-04-10 3:06:36 PM  
I average about 3.2 bad ideas a day. That's 1,168 bad ideas per year. So, I figure it would take me roughly 78 years, or 91,104 other bad ideas, to eventually come up with a scheme this stupid.
 
2021-04-10 3:13:39 PM  
is there an option here to put it back on jefferson davis grave
but leave it as a toilet
 
2021-04-10 3:15:27 PM  
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2021-04-10 3:16:29 PM  

Mock26: talkertopc: I thought that thing had been owned and used by Jefferson Davis during the war but it was commissioned in 1893 by some of his fangirls, there is no way it's worth $500 000 except maybe if it was built by a world renowned artist but there is no mention of the builder in the article.

"Prosecutors estimate its value at $500,000."

That value seems to be based on spite.


Wait until they find a joint on them worth a million bucks. That will be some serious time for them.
 
2021-04-10 3:18:12 PM  
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2021-04-10 3:18:14 PM  
NM Volunteer:

-The people who started a treasonous war?

Yes

-The people who made a toilet to commemorate a person who started the treasonous war?

Yes

-The people who maintain and own the toilet that commemorates a person who started a treasonous war?

Yes

-The people who stole the toilet that commemorates a person who started a treasonous war?

No.  It is perfectly lawful to requisition materials from enemy combatants to shut down their efforts to propagate anti-American propaganda in support of committing terrorism against the United States of America.  When soldiers capture enemy supply depots, they don't FedEx the stuff back to the enemy.  And when they capture the broadcast equipment of enemy spies, it isn't returned to the enemy either.  The United States is engaged in a war of survival against these terrorists (or did we all forget the 6th of January so quickly) and should act accordingly.  You don't see us raising statues to Osama bin Laden and returning his followers' explosives to Al-Qaeda with a note apologizing for the inconvenience.  No reason we should do it with Y'all-Qaeda.  Support of terrorism IS terrorism, and if these terrorists want to support it, they should be treated just as Wahabists would be.  Same god, same noose.
 
2021-04-10 3:18:48 PM  
That really is the best headline, though. It reads like an elevator pitch for an Oceans 11/Dukes of Hazzard mashup.
 
2021-04-10 3:50:16 PM  
Smash it into riprap for some fetid ditch near a junkyard.
 
2021-04-10 3:56:31 PM  

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Conferate?
 
2021-04-10 4:06:03 PM  

Mock26: talkertopc: I thought that thing had been owned and used by Jefferson Davis during the war but it was commissioned in 1893 by some of his fangirls, there is no way it's worth $500 000 except maybe if it was built by a world renowned artist but there is no mention of the builder in the article.

"Prosecutors estimate its value at $500,000."

That value seems to be based on spite.


That's the street value.
 
2021-04-10 4:14:27 PM  
Kennedy and Swanson also said their clients "have no specific ties to White Lies Matter or any other political activist group."

Well, duh. They were obviously telling the truth.
 
2021-04-10 4:18:57 PM  
Was the follow-up tag out pinching a log?
 
2021-04-10 4:29:12 PM  
That's a lot of brouhaha over an ugly piece of sculpture. What I'd really like to know is how they hauled it off. Was it a quick heave-ho into the back of a truck, or were there some moments of "Damn dude, you didn't tell us this stupid thing weighed 500 lbs. We gotta go back for the engine hoist."
 
2021-04-10 5:05:59 PM  
"ornately carved stone relic"

Is this a description of the seat or of the United Daughters of the Confederacy?
 
2021-04-10 5:10:07 PM  
Cops were all over this. Long hours and relentless pursuit of the evildoers.

Now, your stereo or laptop gets taken from your car and they're back to sitting around the station house demolishing a 12 pack of Krispy Kremes.
 
2021-04-10 5:16:16 PM  
> The ornately carved, 500-pound stone relic was stolen last month from a cemetery in Selma, Alabama. Prosecutors estimate its value at $500,000.

cop math.

It is a prop in a vanity cemetery development from 1877 by  Elodie Todd Dawson to honor the graves of herself and  her husband Confederate Col. Nathaniel H. R. Dawson.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Liv​e​_Oak_Cemetery

Jefferson Davis had nothing to do with the chair or the cemetery.

They did dig up some dead Confederates and relocated them there to make the cemetery seem about the Confederacy than just about the Dawsons.

Nobody cared about the chair and it rarely appeared in photos before its kidnapping.
 
2021-04-10 5:19:12 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: gar1013: [bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com image 777x283]

The look a little methed up.

Nah. It's a police mugshot, not Olan Mills. The photographer probably delights in getting unflattering angles.


You know Olan Mills? Wow.

I actually was going to comment on the fact that they didn't have sunken eyeballs and I don't see their missing teeth and so they really don't look that methed up to me. And then you added this which triggered me to have to post because I used to run an Olan Mills back room. We sold those pictures. We got guys to come and deliver little contracts and get you to sign stuff. We were the scum of the Earth.
 
2021-04-10 5:27:35 PM  
"The facts and circumstances that have led to this arrest amount to nothing more than a mistake, albeit an unfortunate one, and we have no doubt that our clients will be proven not guilty, should the case even make it that far," the lawyers' statement added.

TRANSLATION:  "Meth and misplaced social conscience, Your Honor.  If I had a dime....."
 
2021-04-10 6:12:35 PM  
Such monuments have come under increasing attack since a counter protester was killed in 2017 during a white supremacist rally against the removal of a Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee statue in Charlottesville, Virginia.

The Unite The Right white supremacist terror jamboree had little to do with Confederate memorials.  It was a White Nationalist Gathering planned in concert with the GOP, the Trump Administration, and White Supremacist organizing criminal organizations.  It was held there because local law enforcement told the GOP-aligned participants that they would not be held accountable for crimes against pro-Democracy demonstrators.  And they wouldn't have had the world not been watching.
 
2021-04-10 6:30:38 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: gar1013: [bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com image 777x283]

The look a little methed up.

Nah. It's a police mugshot, not Olan Mills. The photographer probably delights in getting unflattering angles.


Plus barring the seriously sociopathic or the too farked up to care, or those for whom it's old hat -  no one looks good in a mug shot.  You've just been arrested, and you're facing all kinds of unpleasant shiat at best.  You've likely just spent way too much time getting asked the same questions over and over and over and over again, for quite a while -  and hassled that entire time about your activities.  You're not exactly given a chance to pretty up before the pic, either.  There aren't many people that look good under those circumstances.
 
2021-04-10 7:19:19 PM  
Defending thieves and extortioners.

/welcome to fark
 
2021-04-10 7:23:58 PM  

HairBolus: > The ornately carved, 500-pound stone relic was stolen last month from a cemetery in Selma, Alabama. Prosecutors estimate its value at $500,000.

cop math.

It is a prop in a vanity cemetery development from 1877 by  Elodie Todd Dawson to honor the graves of herself and  her husband Confederate Col. Nathaniel H. R. Dawson.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Live​_Oak_Cemetery

Jefferson Davis had nothing to do with the chair or the cemetery.

They did dig up some dead Confederates and relocated them there to make the cemetery seem about the Confederacy than just about the Dawsons.

Nobody cared about the chair and it rarely appeared in photos before its kidnapping.


Is it made of marble? Does marble sell for $1000/lb?
 
2021-04-10 7:57:53 PM  
1. go to trial
2. gofundme for trial costs
3. ask for jury of peers

you'll be fine.
 
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