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(Men's Health)   As much fun as The Falcon and The Winter Soldier has been so far, don't get your hopes up for a second season. Same with Wandavision   (menshealth.com) divider line
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2021-04-10 9:05:58 AM  
Both series seem like set ups for the MCU to work from, or denouements for the last cycle of films. They aren't like the Netflix series in looking to bring new characters life, and making their world. These are deliberate arcs for specific purposes, for specific characters. And that you only make a single season essentially as background for the next cycle of films, or to tease some details, a single season is just fine for that.
 
2021-04-10 9:24:03 AM  
I'm ok with this.  After F&WS finish up we get Loki, then Black Widow movie.  I liked Agents of Shield but they split from the larger MCU and it seemed like a completely different universe than we should have seen.
 
2021-04-10 10:26:25 AM  
The way I see it, if the character has already been established as a top-teir MCU character, then I'm not expecting more than a miniseries. F&WS, Loki, WandaVision, The War Machine shoe, that's all we're getting. Ironheart? She-Hulk? Those will probably run for at least two seasons unless they build to a film franchise.
 
2021-04-10 10:38:18 AM  
hubiestubert:

Plus you can spin off characters for other series.

Each show is one comic run and continuing that run just kills any momentum.
 
2021-04-10 10:39:23 AM  

AnotherBluesStringer: The way I see it, if the character has already been established as a top-teir MCU character, then I'm not expecting more than a miniseries. F&WS, Loki, WandaVision, The War Machine shoe, that's all we're getting. Ironheart? She-Hulk? Those will probably run for at least two seasons unless they build to a film franchise.


With Iron heart I'm expecting the champions ( current iteration ) to be set up rather than a second season.
 
2021-04-10 10:40:37 AM  
Good. The series is excellent, but you don't want to drag things out or too long and wear out the premise of the show by trying to run for 7 years. Better to get a quality season out. Also, I'm sure it is setting up other programs (I am really thinking Zemo is being set up for a Thunderbolts show or film). Plus, these characters can be used for other series and films and if they have something else for these characters in the future they can always come back.
 
2021-04-10 10:42:31 AM  
Sometimes, the best thing to happen to a TV show is having it end.

Let it go out on a high note, lest it become a sad parody of itself attempting to capture past glories.
 
2021-04-10 10:47:19 AM  
Was anyone expecting a second season of WandaVision? They made it plain before it ever aired that it was a limited run lead-in to the next Doctor Strange movie.

It'll be interesting to see how their cross-platform storytelling works out now that theaters are reopening. Everyone won't spring for Disney+ to get all the necessary backstory for the latest MCU movies, but they won't like feeling left out of the loop either. It's always risky to ask audiences to do pre-movie homework.
 
2021-04-10 10:47:31 AM  

WhippingBoi: Sometimes, the best thing to happen to a TV show is having it end.

Let it go out on a high note, lest it become a sad parody of itself attempting to capture past glories.


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2021-04-10 10:49:38 AM  
But but but how else are we going to get our MCU Capwolf storline???

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I mean, someone even made a Lego Capwolf!
 
2021-04-10 11:07:27 AM  

EdgeRunner: Was anyone expecting a second season of WandaVision? They made it plain before it ever aired that it was a limited run lead-in to the next Doctor Strange movie.

It'll be interesting to see how their cross-platform storytelling works out now that theaters are reopening. Everyone won't spring for Disney+ to get all the necessary backstory for the latest MCU movies, but they won't like feeling left out of the loop either. It's always risky to ask audiences to do pre-movie homework.


Came here to say that WandaVision was pretty explicitly a miniseries, I think from the beginning.
 
2021-04-10 11:09:25 AM  
I thought they were always supposed to be single season series / miniseries. I only ever remember hearing that it was Loki that had been expanded to a second run.
 
2021-04-10 11:11:47 AM  
No surprise here. They were meant to be single stand alone stories. Like a comic miniseries. They are telling one story then moving on. It doesn't mean we won't get another series with Wanda, vision, falcon, or bucky. It will just be a different mini series with a different name, if it happens.
 
2021-04-10 11:14:58 AM  

WhippingBoi: Sometimes, the best thing to happen to a TV show is having it end.

Let it go out on a high note, lest it become a sad parody of itself attempting to capture past glories.


You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain.

Plenty of super-shows were made worse by trying to have a second season.
 
2021-04-10 11:21:57 AM  
I never expected either of them to be more than one season, more like bridge programming that gave time for some lower-tier characters to shine and flesh out some back stories.  Same with Loki and Hawkeye.
 
2021-04-10 11:22:06 AM  
No no, this is good.

Tell the story you want to tell, and then stop. Don't make more just because ratings are high.
 
2021-04-10 11:40:58 AM  

EdgeRunner: Was anyone expecting a second season of WandaVision? They made it plain before it ever aired that it was a limited run lead-in to the next Doctor Strange movie.

It'll be interesting to see how their cross-platform storytelling works out now that theaters are reopening. Everyone won't spring for Disney+ to get all the necessary backstory for the latest MCU movies, but they won't like feeling left out of the loop either. It's always risky to ask audiences to do pre-movie homework.


Eh, not everyone who watched Endgame watched the Ant-Man movies, even though he was a key character in the story. Most people will be able to get the gist of who the characters are and what happened to them with some efficient exposition. "This guy was picked to be the new Captain America, but he went of the rails so Sam has the shield now."
 
2021-04-10 11:41:08 AM  
Wandavision was great, but I don't know where you go after that story.

F&WS has the best position for long legs, but it has been kind of hit or miss.   This last episode was a dog right up until the last five or so minutes, which were some of the best stuff I've seen Marvel do.   I could also stare at Erin Kellyman all day and never get bored.   There is nothing you can do that makes her not ridiculously beautiful.  Dressing her in what may be the worst blouse ensemble in the history of fashion doesn't even do it.  "Scent of Bo Peep?"  Fist.  Angry God.  Yadda yadda.

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2021-04-10 11:46:11 AM  

Rent Party: Wandavision was great, but I don't know where you go after that story.

F&WS has the best position for long legs, but it has been kind of hit or miss.   This last episode was a dog right up until the last five or so minutes, which were some of the best stuff I've seen Marvel do.   I could also stare at Erin Kellyman all day and never get bored.   There is nothing you can do that makes her not ridiculously beautiful.  Dressing her in what may be the worst blouse ensemble in the history of fashion doesn't even do it.  "Scent of Bo Peep?"  Fist.  Angry God.  Yadda yadda.

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2021-04-10 11:46:14 AM  
Single seasons of a show are excellent replacements for movies on a streaming platform.  It allows for longer form storytelling...
 
2021-04-10 11:55:23 AM  
One Division was very much a closed cycle for a story. I did not expect to be a second season. I haven't started Falcon and Winter Soldier yet but am assuming the same. I am perfectly fine and I actually quite enjoy longer form close Arc stories. Stop while you are ahead and stop while the story makes sense.
 
2021-04-10 11:55:37 AM  

Tarl3k: Single seasons of a show are excellent replacements for movies on a streaming platform.  It allows for longer form storytelling...


Yeah, it finally addresses that middle ground for stories that are too big to be stuffed into a single 2 or even 3 hour long movie, but also wouldn't be well served by an open-ended TV series.
 
2021-04-10 11:59:14 AM  

rummonkey: One Division was very much a closed cycle for a story. I did not expect to be a second season. I haven't started Falcon and Winter Soldier yet but am assuming the same. I am perfectly fine and I actually quite enjoy longer form close Arc stories. Stop while you are ahead and stop while the story makes sense.


Wandavision not one division. Stupid autocorrect.
 
2021-04-10 11:59:45 AM  

Nora Gretz: WhippingBoi: Sometimes, the best thing to happen to a TV show is having it end.

Let it go out on a high note, lest it become a sad parody of itself attempting to capture past glories.

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain.

Plenty of super-shows were made worse by trying to have a second season.


Or an *th season as the case may be
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2021-04-10 12:08:59 PM  
If I were Disney, right now I would be focusing on tv shows, because of the pandemic. Movie theaters are going to farked for the next year or so still. If they want to expand of these characters, a tv show would probably be best. I am saying that, because there is no way in hell I am going to pay 30 bucks, and Disney+ to watch their movies. fark that shiat.
 
2021-04-10 12:11:33 PM  
Wandavision doesn't need a second season.
 
2021-04-10 12:14:46 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Rent Party: Wandavision was great, but I don't know where you go after that story.

F&WS has the best position for long legs, but it has been kind of hit or miss.   This last episode was a dog right up until the last five or so minutes, which were some of the best stuff I've seen Marvel do.   I could also stare at Erin Kellyman all day and never get bored.   There is nothing you can do that makes her not ridiculously beautiful.  Dressing her in what may be the worst blouse ensemble in the history of fashion doesn't even do it.  "Scent of Bo Peep?"  Fist.  Angry God.  Yadda yadda.

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2021-04-10 12:32:00 PM  
I'm absolutely fine with a bunch of high quality mini-series intertwined with MCU features.

The biggest problem with the return to serialized TV is it overstaying it's welcome and studios trying to squeeze blood from a stone and dragging out a series instead of telling a coherent, compelling story.
 
2021-04-10 12:32:57 PM  
Fine with me. If they want to just do a bunch of one-shot series based on various characters that's probably a better approach anyways.
 
2021-04-10 12:34:38 PM  
I want a groot backstory.
 
2021-04-10 12:37:26 PM  
If Heroes ended after one season, it would be have been deemed one of the best shows ever.
 
2021-04-10 12:38:15 PM  
I like the idea of one-off miniseries, maybe it could lead to the return of the Netflix shows Marvel characters. I believe there is a rumor that Jessica Jones may appear in the She-Hulk series. But I could also see an opportunity for another season of The Falcon and The Winter Soldier. That series, I think, offers up much more potential storylines than WandaVision. I'm thinking the future of The Scarlett Which is clearly in the upcoming Doctor Strange and maybe Spider-Man sequels.
 
2021-04-10 12:38:31 PM  

Rent Party: Wandavision was great, but I don't know where you go after that story.

F&WS has the best position for long legs, but it has been kind of hit or miss.   This last episode was a dog right up until the last five or so minutes, which were some of the best stuff I've seen Marvel do.   I could also stare at Erin Kellyman all day and never get bored.   There is nothing you can do that makes her not ridiculously beautiful.  Dressing her in what may be the worst blouse ensemble in the history of fashion doesn't even do it.  "Scent of Bo Peep?"  Fist.  Angry God.  Yadda yadda.

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They really showed off her boobs in the last episode. Which is always good TV.
 
2021-04-10 12:40:20 PM  

WhippingBoi: Rent Party: Wandavision was great, but I don't know where you go after that story.

F&WS has the best position for long legs, but it has been kind of hit or miss.   This last episode was a dog right up until the last five or so minutes, which were some of the best stuff I've seen Marvel do.   I could also stare at Erin Kellyman all day and never get bored.   There is nothing you can do that makes her not ridiculously beautiful.  Dressing her in what may be the worst blouse ensemble in the history of fashion doesn't even do it.  "Scent of Bo Peep?"  Fist.  Angry God.  Yadda yadda.

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They really showed off her boobs in the last episode. Which is always good TV.


Her henchmen were pretty incompetent
 
2021-04-10 12:44:15 PM  

Leader O'Cola: I want a groot backstory.


I'll write all Groot's dialog
 
2021-04-10 12:51:24 PM  

Rent Party: Wandavision was great, but I don't know where you go after that story.

F&WS has the best position for long legs, but it has been kind of hit or miss.   This last episode was a dog right up until the last five or so minutes, which were some of the best stuff I've seen Marvel do.


I don't agree. The first episode I thought was good, but not great. Easily good enough to continue watching though. After that I think they've been pretty well killing it. IMHO, each episode has been better then the previous one, and last night's episode was just fantastic. We could always nitpick anything of course, but I don't see value in that when a thing is overall legitimately really good.

My biggest nitpick was they were trying to kill nu-Cap and sidekick, so I wasn't sure why they would freak out and run when they managed to kill one. I was like, "Why aren't you trying to finish the job?" But wifey argued to me that blowing people up was one thing, but killing a dude in person with their own hands up close and personal was something else they might not have been personally prepared for. All four of the heroes the Flag Smashers were fighting were trained and experienced soldiers who had experienced wartime combat operations. The Flag Smashers are... just peeps with juice.

In the end, I have to concede it's arguable, which suggests even some nitpicks are signs of a pretty well written show.

And yeah, I'm expecting most of these MCU TV shows to be one shots, and I'm just fine with that. Tell a strong story, and season 2 is essentially the next show. Might have a different name, but it's part of the same universe, so it's all really different seasons in one huge meta-show.

"What did you do?"  lol - ooooooh here it comes.
 
2021-04-10 12:55:56 PM  
Pretty funny.  For years Americans turned their noses up at the superior British method of television series -- far fewer episodes of high quality.  "Oooh he's the famous English actor who appeared in all twelve episodes of Upstairs, Downstairs, ooooh."  Now the shoe is on the other foot, wot?

/mostly kidding around
 
2021-04-10 12:59:07 PM  
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2021-04-10 1:09:24 PM  
I didn't think either (or Loki) were supposed to be anything but one-off mini-series to bridge the time between Endgame and the next phase of the MCU.
 
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2021-04-10 1:13:43 PM  

mongbiohazard: My biggest nitpick was they were trying to kill nu-Cap and sidekick, so I wasn't sure why they would freak out and run when they managed to kill one.


I doubt they planned for it to go down the way it did, but getting him to do what he did in public with people videoing him effectively "killed" him much better than if they had literally killed him since they would have the chance to spin the story that he somehow went down a hero.
 
2021-04-10 1:20:10 PM  
Yeah these seasons have been more long form movies than traditional TV shows.
I prefer this. Most traditional t.v. is bland and  uneventful.
 
2021-04-10 1:22:37 PM  

Rent Party: Wandavision was great, but I don't know where you go after that story.

F&WS has the best position for long legs, but it has been kind of hit or miss.   This last episode was a dog right up until the last five or so minutes, which were some of the best stuff I've seen Marvel do.   I could also stare at Erin Kellyman all day and never get bored.   There is nothing you can do that makes her not ridiculously beautiful.  Dressing her in what may be the worst blouse ensemble in the history of fashion doesn't even do it.  "Scent of Bo Peep?"  Fist.  Angry God.  Yadda yadda.

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I'm wondering if her agent got her Disney contract that was specific to finding a starring role as a rebel group leader that Disney would actually promote, as the first one didn't pan out so well?
 
2021-04-10 1:30:22 PM  
I'm fine with a couple of miniseries to bring stories that couldn't be done in movies.
 
2021-04-10 1:37:06 PM  

hubiestubert: Both series seem like set ups for the MCU to work from, or denouements for the last cycle of films. They aren't like the Netflix series in looking to bring new characters life, and making their world. These are deliberate arcs for specific purposes, for specific characters. And that you only make a single season essentially as background for the next cycle of films, or to tease some details, a single season is just fine for that.


A lot of shows would have been much, much better had they planned for just one or two seasons.

If something grabs, they wring every dime out of it, almost always ruining the show's reputation. TWD is a good example of this.
 
2021-04-10 1:38:06 PM  

indy_kid: hubiestubert: Both series seem like set ups for the MCU to work from, or denouements for the last cycle of films. They aren't like the Netflix series in looking to bring new characters life, and making their world. These are deliberate arcs for specific purposes, for specific characters. And that you only make a single season essentially as background for the next cycle of films, or to tease some details, a single season is just fine for that.

A lot of shows would have been much, much better had they planned for just one or two seasons.

If something grabs, they wring every dime out of it, almost always ruining the show's reputation. TWD is a good example of this.


See also: Star Trek
 
2021-04-10 1:50:22 PM  
indy_kid:

24 should have remained the one shot it was ment to be.

Every other iteration of the series killed the magic and suspension of disbelief for the series.
 
2021-04-10 2:08:27 PM  
keeping shows on longer than they have the potential for is never a good idea
 
2021-04-10 2:09:55 PM  
Welcome to the end of artificially lengthening media for the purpose of syndication.

It's a good time to be alive.
 
2021-04-10 2:18:52 PM  
On the flip side, there's some shows that were killed before their time.

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2021-04-10 2:19:00 PM  
Good. There is no reason for a second season.  Comics has figured this out way better than american TV. Get your story, do your dance, end that shiat and set the stage for something else.  Even with long running titles, people talk about this run or that run on the title and Marvel at least has gotten a lot more honest about it by actually ENDING a title when the story is done. They aren't perfect at it, but they also don't try to milk every last drop of blood from a dying property like TV does.
 
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