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2021-04-09 8:07:25 AM  
If there is a ruling at all on this case, it is going to be narrow and not involve consoles.
 
2021-04-09 8:10:37 AM  
My last system was Dreamcast (<3) but that would still piss me off. I wouldn't be surprised if Epic farks up console gaming too.
 
2021-04-09 8:49:39 AM  
Well, since the consoles are moving away from exclusives and more towards game pass systems, I suspect it might not have nearly the impact on Microsoft or Sony then it will Apple.
 
2021-04-09 8:50:03 AM  
It would be great if it destroyed both companies.
 
2021-04-09 9:07:29 AM  
As long as the consoles allow for physical media the analogy doesnt hold.  Now we all know that this isnt the case for 100% of the new gens but giving the option to buy an open product would greatly reduce the monopoly call.
 
2021-04-09 9:35:54 AM  

Marcos P: My last system was Dreamcast (<3) but that would still piss me off. I wouldn't be surprised if Epic farks up console gaming too.


It would piss you off that *game only available on console Y* is now *game available on all platforms*?
 
2021-04-09 9:49:55 AM  

freakdiablo: Marcos P: My last system was Dreamcast (<3) but that would still piss me off. I wouldn't be surprised if Epic farks up console gaming too.

It would piss you off that *game only available on console Y* is now *game available on all platforms*?


Yeah, people should be able to play whatever they want, wherever they want.
 
2021-04-09 9:53:31 AM  

freakdiablo: Marcos P: My last system was Dreamcast (<3) but that would still piss me off. I wouldn't be surprised if Epic farks up console gaming too.

It would piss you off that *game only available on console Y* is now *game available on all platforms*?


It doesn't matter how many alternative console stores you have. A legal ruling like this can't force Sony to port Spider-Man to the Xbox.
 
2021-04-09 10:55:52 AM  

Mad_Radhu: It doesn't matter how many alternative console stores you have. A legal ruling like this can't force Sony to port Spider-Man to the Xbox.


Correct, but it means that 3rd party exclusives can't be legally binding.  Sure a company can make a game JUST for the Xbox, but they can't be prevented from making it for Playstation.

This actually could potentially hurt software companies, because those exclusivity things come with cash.
 
2021-04-09 12:17:06 PM  

mjbok: Mad_Radhu: It doesn't matter how malternative console stores you have. A legal ruling like this can't force Sony to port Spider-Man to the Xbox.

Correct, but it means that 3rd party exclusives can't be legally binding.  Sure a company can make a game JUST for the Xbox, but they can't be prevented from making it for Playstation.

This actually could potentially hurt software companies, because those exclusivity things come with cash.


You'd have to write a law that bars studios from accepting a dump truck full of money to make their game an exclusive release. Without such legislation, this court case won't prevent exclusives from happening that way. Its not like the old days where Nintendo would flat out refuse to allow you to sell a game for the NES if you also released it on other consoles.

Hell, the way Microsoft is doing it now, they just buy the game studios to get their exclusives, so you'd need to outlaw acquisitions as well.
 
2021-04-09 3:50:26 PM  
Tencent has an effective mobile store market in China.  Epic wants to offer the same here without releasing their own mobile device.  This is not about David vs Goliath.  Epic is using small developers to create a foothold for their larger purpose while telling them all it's really about them.
 
2021-04-09 4:27:49 PM  
Well, I for one, am glad that Epic now allows alternative online stores selling Fortnite skins and dances so that you no longer have to go through the monopolistic Epic Store and their exclusive "V-bucks".

/wait, what?
 
2021-04-09 5:10:56 PM  

OrionXVI: Well, since the consoles are moving away from exclusives and more towards game pass systems, I suspect it might not have nearly the impact on Microsoft or Sony then it will Apple.


That is absolutely not true. The big companies are swallowing up studios so they can have their games exclusively. Bethesda is case in point. You won't see Elder Scrolls on Playstation
 
2021-04-09 5:17:28 PM  

hoihoi8: That is absolutely not true. The big companies are swallowing up studios so they can have their games exclusively. Bethesda is case in point. You won't see Elder Scrolls on Playstation


It would not applied to owned studios, only to third party ones.  It would not require studios to make things cross-platform, but it would prevent companies having exclusive third party titles.  IE Microsoft could not have an agreement with an independent studio saying you can only put this on Xbox or only for a certain amount of time.  Purchasing a studio would circumvent this.
 
2021-04-09 6:30:51 PM  
Fark this company and their shiatty game.

Frankly, I like having a centralized party in control of what apps go on my phone, because I don't have the power to compel them to release app code to me so that I can determine whether it's safe.

If you want to behave like a Linux nerd, buy an Android phone and screw it up to your heart's content.
 
2021-04-09 6:30:57 PM  

mjbok: hoihoi8: That is absolutely not true. The big companies are swallowing up studios so they can have their games exclusively. Bethesda is case in point. You won't see Elder Scrolls on Playstation

It would not applied to owned studios, only to third party ones.  It would not require studios to make things cross-platform, but it would prevent companies having exclusive third party titles.  IE Microsoft could not have an agreement with an independent studio saying you can only put this on Xbox or only for a certain amount of time.  Purchasing a studio would circumvent this.


It seems of questionable business acumen for a company who only has a pc presence for a storefront at all because it paying ridiculous payouts to prevent finished from publishing on Steam.

They may be doing more damage to their cause than they stand to gain on Apple devices. If it's true for phones and argument extends to console, it sure as hell will extend to PC. So, my guess is they are confident this argument isn't going outside the scope of phones.
 
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