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(NBC Montana)   K9 pooches have to learn a new trick when their state legalizes marijuana   (nbcmontana.com) divider line
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639 clicks; posted to D'awww » on 08 Apr 2021 at 5:25 AM (5 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2021-04-08 12:10:03 AM  
They do know that dogs can't actually go back to doggo cop college, and re-certify in sniff licensure, right? Are there grown ups in courtrooms that know this shiat is nonsense?
 
2021-04-08 12:27:01 AM  
Drug dogs are a scam for cops to manufacture probable cause. There are zero standards for performance, zero standards for training and certification of drug dogs. They have poor accuracy and should not be used at all.
 
2021-04-08 1:17:41 AM  
Do you need a dog to smell weed?  It's the most obnoxiously-strong smell on Earth, maybe short of durian.  I don't mind the smell, but it's strong AF.
 
2021-04-08 1:25:39 AM  
They will be just fine...

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2021-04-08 2:13:38 AM  

dr_blasto: Drug dogs are a scam for cops to manufacture probable cause. There are zero standards for performance, zero standards for training and certification of drug dogs. They have poor accuracy and should not be used at all.


It's like basing no-knock raids on the examination of bird entrails. Anyway, a dog can't testify in court, even if he is a good boy, which he is.
 
2021-04-08 2:21:30 AM  

dr_blasto: Drug dogs are a scam for cops to manufacture probable cause. There are zero standards for performance, zero standards for training and certification of drug dogs. They have poor accuracy and should not be used at all.


I disagree, for some circumstances.  For example, customs police use beagles to smell for food in luggage.  That's not a stretch for a beagle.  The only training required is to teach the dog to sit down when it smells food, instead of howling like a lunatic.
 
2021-04-08 5:54:28 AM  

foo monkey: Do you need a dog to smell weed?  It's the most obnoxiously-strong smell on Earth, maybe short of durian.  I don't mind the smell, but it's strong AF.


Dude, have you ever been in the house of someone who makes curry on a regular basis? You have to get the walls taken down and rehang the drywall to get rid of the smell
 
2021-04-08 6:04:37 AM  
Which is why I make Indian foodbefore and after each batch of edibles.
 
2021-04-08 7:15:47 AM  

dr_blasto: Drug dogs are a scam for cops to manufacture probable cause. There are zero standards for performance, zero standards for training and certification of drug dogs. They have poor accuracy and should not be used at all.


Agreed. My big issue is that they use German shepherds so they look like intimidating badasses. If the K-9 drug sniffer units employed basset hounds, I'd be more inclined to believe they were intent on finding drugs rather than appearing like fascist farks.
 
2021-04-08 8:25:36 AM  

Ragin' Asian: Agreed. My big issue is that they use German shepherds so they look like intimidating badasses. If the K-9 drug sniffer units employed basset hounds, I'd be more inclined to believe they were intent on finding drugs rather than appearing like fascist farks.


If they used basset hounds we would start associating them with fascist farks and complain.  Then what are they going to do ? Switch to teacup yorkies?
 
2021-04-08 8:53:21 AM  
I didn't realize that drug dog training had evolved to the point that they had trained specific behavior for specific drugs. If that's the case, they can totally poison the positive reinforcement for the trained behavior, which will cause the dog to stop responding to the reinforcement. My trainer gets onto me about this a lot. Using the marker in the wrong place or too much will poison it.

But last I checked, they just alert at the presence of a smell that they have been trained to respond to. The times I've had dogs alert on my car at the el paso border inspection checkpoint, they say it alerted on drugs. Not a specific drug.
 
2021-04-08 8:58:09 AM  

foo monkey: Do you need a dog to smell weed?  It's the most obnoxiously-strong smell on Earth, maybe short of durian.  I don't mind the smell, but it's strong AF.


The cheap stuff from Mexico isn't that smelly.
 
2021-04-08 10:53:47 AM  
This ain't gonna work.

/book it
 
2021-04-08 11:07:10 AM  

question_dj: I didn't realize that drug dog training had evolved to the point that they had trained specific behavior for specific drugs. If that's the case, they can totally poison the positive reinforcement for the trained behavior, which will cause the dog to stop responding to the reinforcement. My trainer gets onto me about this a lot. Using the marker in the wrong place or too much will poison it.

But last I checked, they just alert at the presence of a smell that they have been trained to respond to. The times I've had dogs alert on my car at the el paso border inspection checkpoint, they say it alerted on drugs. Not a specific drug.


That wasn't the impression I got from TFA, just that pot was on the list of things they trained the dog on, and they were removing that particular item to trigger on. But I could be wrong, that wasn't a very well written article.
 
2021-04-08 12:37:05 PM  
Nah, "Signal on command" is still the only trick they need.
 
2021-04-08 3:37:43 PM  
I've been curious about the accuracy level of dogs trained to sniff out with electronic memory like flash drives and phones and such. I'm split between the fear of the state, and the fear of not catching pedophiles.

And couldn't the dogs be retrained to find bodies, either living fugitives or cadavers?
 
2021-04-08 4:21:14 PM  

shabu: And couldn't the dogs be retrained to find bodies, either living fugitives or cadavers?


Yeah, they already have dogs for that. Guess what they're called? Cadaver dogs.
 
2021-04-08 8:40:01 PM  

dr_blasto: Drug dogs are a scam for cops to manufacture probable cause. There are zero standards for performance, zero standards for training and certification of drug dogs. They have poor accuracy and should not be used at all.


A million times this.
 
2021-04-08 8:54:28 PM  
I thought they were taught to alert on whatever spot their cop tapped.
 
2021-04-08 8:55:17 PM  
Train them to sniff out cash, only criminals use cash.  Now prove you're money is innocent if you want it back.
 
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