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5 days ago  
He's on the verge of taking off his belt and saying, "If you make me come down there..." with a threatening glare.

It's pretty damned great.
 
5 days ago  
Do we really want a man who uses such shocking language as president? Whatever happened to decorum and civility?

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5 days ago  
In the GOP's world, If you're not the screwer, you're the screwee.

It's fleeced or flammin'.
 
5 days ago  
If you make me come down there and lower my deal even further, I'm just going to rescind it entirely! You take the Trump tax cut and make it permanent at 28% you dogfaced pony soldiers!

28% < 35%
 
5 days ago  
Wow. That's pretty cool.
 
5 days ago  
I saw part of the speech and liked the way he was talking about including the repigs in the talks. They shout unity, he offers and they shout nuh uh. It is not a good look. People are paying attention to this.

Maddow showed a chart showing most voters want this. Hopefully he is backing them into a corner.
 
5 days ago  
But he's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi​c​s/2019/1/8/18173678/trump-shutdown-vot​er-florida

That is really all you need to know about Republican voters.
 
5 days ago  
I'm really liking where Biden's heart appears to genuinely be. What a complete 180 from the black hole of a soul that was the former farkface.

We can't let Joe become the new Carter though - we need to keep him and his party in power and avoid falling right back into the next charismatic asshole's gravity well.
 
5 days ago  
Fox news headline: "Biden says he wants the government to fleece everyone"
 
5 days ago  
Ok start with the student loans. That's been a scam for a while.
 
5 days ago  
Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.
 
5 days ago  

numberonenoob: I'm really liking where Biden's heart appears to genuinely be. What a complete 180 from the black hole of a soul that was the former farkface.

We can't let Joe become the new Carter though - we need to keep him and his party in power and avoid falling right back into the next charismatic asshole's gravity well.


Passing overwhelmingly popular legislation, and letting people know who is and isn't responsible, is a very good beginning to a winning message.
 
5 days ago  

pxsteel: Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.


And?
 
5 days ago  

pxsteel: Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.


Good point. Let's raise the minimum wage too. I like where your head is at and I'm willing to give it a shot
 
5 days ago  
I think it's safe to say we all owe that CornPop dude a debt of gratitude
 
5 days ago  
They are getting fleeced by paying no income taxes?
 
5 days ago  

aleister_greynight: numberonenoob: I'm really liking where Biden's heart appears to genuinely be. What a complete 180 from the black hole of a soul that was the former farkface.

We can't let Joe become the new Carter though - we need to keep him and his party in power and avoid falling right back into the next charismatic asshole's gravity well.

Passing overwhelmingly popular legislation, and letting people know who is and isn't responsible, is a very good beginning to a winning message.


What overwhelmingly popular legislation are you talking about.   Handing out free money, sure that was popular, but how many times can you do that.
 
5 days ago  

pxsteel: Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.


I do. That is not how pricing works. It has never been that simple. Mostly they charge as much as they can without killing demand. As long as there is a profit, their costs do not count towards the price. So, they are already charging the max the market will bear.
Probably a little too deep for you to understand.
 
5 days ago  

Wake Up Sheeple: If you make me come down there and lower my deal even further, I'm just going to rescind it entirely! You take the Trump tax cut and make it permanent at 28% you dogfaced pony soldiers!

28% < 35%


Go head.  Manchin is angling for 25%.  35% would have him defect, heck Bidens overture to negotiation is only about him.
 
Azz [TotalFark]
5 days ago  

pxsteel: Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.


Were the prices raised before Trump's corporate handout in 2017?

Were they then subsequently lowered? It would only make sense, per your logic, right?
 
5 days ago  

pxsteel: Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.


Corporations already price their goods at what they believe the market will pay. Unless we start having inflation again they can't raise prices without reduced revenue. But it's not going to happen because they have to pay a couple more percentage of tax on profits.
 
5 days ago  

numberonenoob: I'm really liking where Biden's heart appears to genuinely be. What a complete 180 from the black hole of a soul that was the former farkface.

We can't let Joe become the new Carter though - we need to keep him and his party in power and avoid falling right back into the next charismatic asshole's gravity well.


Great way to do that would be to pass popular legislation and sign it into law.
 
5 days ago  

pxsteel: What overwhelmingly popular legislation are you talking about.


The one supported by 3/4 of the country. Try and keep up.
 
5 days ago  
FFS, the corporate tax rate pre-Trump was 35%, the Trumpists lowered it to 21%, and Biden wants to raise to 28%, so it will still be lower than it was pre-Trump and they're STILL biatching. They should feel lucky he doesn't want to raise it to 40% and cram it down they're greedy throats.
 
5 days ago  

TorpedoOrca: pxsteel: Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.

Good point. Let's raise the minimum wage too. I like where your head is at and I'm willing to give it a shot


You sound rich, I don't like paying anymore than I have to.  And most poor people will just have to do without.
 
5 days ago  
I know a lot of people felt like they were settling when they voted for Biden, but I love this guy.
 
5 days ago  

pxsteel: Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.


You have shown you have no understanding of how money actually flows and why.
 
5 days ago  
So is this a 28% flat rate? Why can't we go back to graduated corporate tax rates like we had before? Flat taxes hit the smaller businesses harder and needs to be considered!
 
Azz [TotalFark]
5 days ago  

pxsteel: TorpedoOrca: pxsteel: Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.

Good point. Let's raise the minimum wage too. I like where your head is at and I'm willing to give it a shot

You sound rich, I don't like paying anymore than I have to.  And most poor people will just have to do without.


Do without my foot up your ass. How about that
 
5 days ago  

pxsteel: Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.


Yeah. I remember when the corporate tax rate was drastically lowered by Trump, the first thing corporations did was lower the prices on everything.
 
5 days ago  
Lame. He hasn't golfed, tweeted threats, promoted violence, lied 16000 times or even coddled a dictator yet.

meh..
/Biden is doing a good job. Could be better but so far so good.
 
5 days ago  

I want that sauce Morty!: pxsteel: Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.

Yeah. I remember when the corporate tax rate was drastically lowered by Trump, the first thing corporations did was lower the prices on everything.


And don't forget how many people they hired back. And how many new jobs they made. With the extra money.
/snark
 
5 days ago  

I want that sauce Morty!: pxsteel: Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.

Yeah. I remember when the corporate tax rate was drastically lowered by Trump, the first thing corporations did was lower the prices on everything.


Yup - my wage went up and everything got cheaper. Unless I'm misremembering things.

Nevermind my head hurts - TRUMP 2026
 
5 days ago  

FarkingChas: pxsteel: Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.

I do. That is not how pricing works. It has never been that simple. Mostly they charge as much as they can without killing demand. As long as there is a profit, their costs do not count towards the price. So, they are already charging the max the market will bear.
Probably a little too deep for you to understand.


Dude, I work in corporate accounting and we look at margin and bottom line the most.  If your margin slips, raising price is the first thing you do.  Do I think that it is always right, no, but it is what happens.  And inflation hurts the poorest the most, always has and always will.
 
5 days ago  

TorpedoOrca: pxsteel: Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.

Good point. Let's raise the minimum wage too. I like where your head is at and I'm willing to give it a shot


I mean, if prices are going to go up, and people say raising wages raises prices, we might as well, right? If it's going to happen anyway?
 
5 days ago  

pxsteel: TorpedoOrca: pxsteel: Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.

Good point. Let's raise the minimum wage too. I like where your head is at and I'm willing to give it a shot

You sound rich, I don't like paying anymore than I have to.  And most poor people will just have to do without.


Hi, I'm poor. You don't speak for me. I'm not your prop.
 
5 days ago  
Cool words, I guess.

If you don't follow it up with meaningful action, it's all pageantry and the poor in this country are all going to wither and die sick and broke.
 
5 days ago  

pxsteel: Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.


When the GOP passed literally their only legislative accomplishment under trump, reducing the tax rate by 14% - specifically how much of that "savings" was passed to the consumer?

What are your top 3 examples of consumer costs being reduced by 14% as a result of this legislation?
 
5 days ago  

pxsteel: FarkingChas: pxsteel: Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.

I do. That is not how pricing works. It has never been that simple. Mostly they charge as much as they can without killing demand. As long as there is a profit, their costs do not count towards the price. So, they are already charging the max the market will bear.
Probably a little too deep for you to understand.

Dude, I work ...


LOL. You expect anyone to believe that? You live in mummy's basement. Here is a scary thought for you. Some day she is gonna die. And you will have to do things for yourself. For yourself.
 
5 days ago  
pxsteel:

Dude, I work in corporate accounting and we look at margin and bottom line the most.  If your margin slips, raising price is the first thing you do.  Do I think that it is always right, no, but it is what happens.  And inflation hurts the poorest the most, always has and always will.

Dude,

Specifically how were the consumer costs of the corporations that you work for reduced by 14% as a result of the GOP tax cuts?

I'm a consumer, and you're definitely a real accountant and not a liar on the internet, so this should be easy to prove out.

When your clients got a 14% tax cut, they passed that onto the consumer, correct? If so please prove that.
 
5 days ago  

bluejeansonfire: Cool words, I guess.

If you don't follow it up with meaningful action, it's all pageantry and the poor in this country are all going to wither and die sick and broke.


*gasp* do you want four more years of Trump, you Russian plant??
 
5 days ago  

FullofMT: pxsteel: Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.

You have shown you have no understanding of how money actually flows and why.


FarkingChas: I want that sauce Morty!: pxsteel: Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.

Yeah. I remember when the corporate tax rate was drastically lowered by Trump, the first thing corporations did was lower the prices on everything.

And don't forget how many people they hired back. And how many new jobs they made. With the extra money.
/snark


Pre covid the economy was running at full tilt, historically low unemployment for many different groups.
 
5 days ago  

pxsteel: FarkingChas: pxsteel: Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.

I do. That is not how pricing works. It has never been that simple. Mostly they charge as much as they can without killing demand. As long as there is a profit, their costs do not count towards the price. So, they are already charging the max the market will bear.
Probably a little too deep for you to understand.

Dude, I work in corporate accounting and we look at margin and bottom line the most.  If your margin slips, raising price is the first thing you do.  Do I think that it is always right, no, but it is what happens.  And inflation hurts the poorest the most, always has and always will.


Someone just proved they didn't even take Econ for non majors.
 
5 days ago  

pxsteel: Pre covid the economy was running at full tilt, historically low unemployment for many different groups.


This was also the case pre Trump tax cuts, said tax cuts resulted in no change to job or economic growth. There was literally no inflection point in any graph of any economic indicator that can be attributed to the Trump tax cuts for the super wealthy and giant corporations.

As a very real corporate accountant and not just a liar on the internet, I would think you would know that.
 
5 days ago  

Lochsteppe: In the GOP's world, If you're not the screwer, you're the screwee.

It's fleeced or flammin'.


Damn you. You got me.
 
5 days ago  

pxsteel: Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.


I knew there was a reason I had you tagged in bright orange as a Trump Loving [Redacted].
 
5 days ago  

austerity101: bluejeansonfire: Cool words, I guess.

If you don't follow it up with meaningful action, it's all pageantry and the poor in this country are all going to wither and die sick and broke.

*gasp* do you want four more years of Trump, you Russian plant??


Ugh. It was bad before, but now it's just obvious they're regurgitating talking points without checking the expiry date. This is literally the Democrats' (non-progressive) campaign slogan this year and the only thing they respond with to any criticism. It's brain-dead and they're setting themselves up for a big loss.
 
5 days ago  

The Homer Tax: pxsteel:

Dude, I work in corporate accounting and we look at margin and bottom line the most.  If your margin slips, raising price is the first thing you do.  Do I think that it is always right, no, but it is what happens.  And inflation hurts the poorest the most, always has and always will.

Dude,

Specifically how were the consumer costs of the corporations that you work for reduced by 14% as a result of the GOP tax cuts?

I'm a consumer, and you're definitely a real accountant and not a liar on the internet, so this should be easy to prove out.

When your clients got a 14% tax cut, they passed that onto the consumer, correct? If so please prove that.


Prices stayed steady for 3 straight years and we increased our # of employees by 8% and handed out raises that outpaced inflation.
 
5 days ago  

TorpedoOrca: pxsteel: Who here believes that taxing corporations won't just get passed down to you.  Because it will, as a matter of fact, they will raise prices even more than they need to, just to make sure they are covered.

Good point. Let's raise the minimum wage too. I like where your head is at and I'm willing to give it a shot


That way we can guarantee that there won't be a middle class at all any more. You've either already got the money or you don't. No job for you, come back four years.
 
5 days ago  
But raising the rates ain't gonna affect the really big corporation. The ones that off-shore all their business profits. Those are ones that need to pay up. Dammit. We need something to close those loopholes. Maybe the wealth tax? A corporate minimum tax based on gross sales/earnings? Something.
 
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