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5 days ago  
Since taking office, Saul and Black have put roadblocks in the way of the hardest working Americans, making it more difficult for them to claim the benefits they've earned.

Not surprisingly, both Saul and Black were handpicked by former President Donald Trump. Even though Trump is gone, they are continuing to carry out his agenda instead of President Joe Biden's.



How hard is it to fire these Farks?  I can't imagine Biden not wanting to fire these guys immediately after reading this article.  Makes you wonder.
 
5 days ago  
"He [Trump] once wrote a book".

Sure buddy.
 
5 days ago  
can't we just ask Joe to set them ON fire?

/metaphorically
 
5 days ago  
It's not just disability. I am on SS and received the $600 but not the $1,400. My ex and her bf got both through SS.

Anyhow. Hang the bastards. Every damn one.
 
5 days ago  
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It's long overdue for some of the James Bond treatment of these holdovers...  The Postal Department most of all....
 
5 days ago  
We give up vengeance to civil society in return for justice.
We ain't getting justice.
 
5 days ago  

PaulRB: Since taking office, Saul and Black have put roadblocks in the way of the hardest working Americans, making it more difficult for them to claim the benefits they've earned.

Not surprisingly, both Saul and Black were handpicked by former President Donald Trump. Even though Trump is gone, they are continuing to carry out his agenda instead of President Joe Biden's.


How hard is it to fire these Farks?  I can't imagine Biden not wanting to fire these guys immediately after reading this article.  Makes you wonder.


I think the problem is, they're bedbugs.  Trump trashed the hotel along with all the rooms in it.  When everything needs fixing and replacing, some things skitter under cover making them harder to deal with at first glance.
 
5 days ago  
Can't they just fire her?

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5 days ago  

Kittypie070: can't we just ask Joe to set them ON fire?

/metaphorically


Why metaphorically?
 
5 days ago  

Richard Freckle: "He [Trump] once wrote a book".

Sure buddy.


Sure. He wrote it. If by 'wrote' you mean 'hired a ghostwriter named Dave Shiflett to write it for him'.

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In the writer's words, 'Mr. Trump and I made a pretty good team. He needed words, I needed money, and together we explored what he would do if he became president. I have long considered the resulting book my first published work of fiction.
 
5 days ago  

PaulRB: How hard is it to fire these Farks?  I can't imagine Biden not wanting to fire these guys immediately after reading this article.  Makes you wonder.


Commissioner of Social Security[42 U.S.C. ... An individual serving in the office of Commissioner may be removed from office only pursuant to a finding by the President of neglect of duty or malfeasance in office.Unfortunately, I doubt this meets the criteria.
 
5 days ago  
I always heard it is difficult to start receiving SSDI & I'd need to hire a lawyer, at least according to the commercials I saw. When I was diagnosed with cancers (note the plurals: bladder, multiple myeloma and metastis on my L2: I went to doctor at VA, which I'd used since retiring from Navy at 39 because I'd started waking at night with back spasms) at age 60 in Dec, 2016 with a prognosis of 8 months, I did Math & decided I. May as well apply. At best, I knew I'd probably not live long enough not ever again be well enough to work.

The forms in line aren't bad but extremely repetitive, asking for the same information repeatedly. I remember it took about 4 hours. I submitted the work. About two weeks later, I received some additional online forms. I filled this out & received  ack a notice telling me they were received & I would receive a notice of determination in sbout 6-8 weeks.

Actually, a few days later I received an e-mail saying to log into me SS account, which in turn told me when I would start receiving SSDI and how much, plus 6 months back pay for some reason I now forget. The back pay was deposited the next day & the SSDI started on time. I was surprised at how relatively easy & quick it was for a governmental program.

Keep records of doctors & visits. You will be asked for each illness. Write small & in detail. Don't try to do the minimum. Think in paragraphs, not blunt sentences. Pretend you are me writing my interminable screeds. Make them give you money just to shut you up! I really think that's how I was awarded/rewarded on my first try.

I have a nephew (40) losing his sight to macular degeneration & after a year he gave in & hired a lawyer (I offered to help but both his records & his memories were sparse to nil on details - sigh; nearly $13k in legal fees before a ruling in his favor!). Despite good insurance, etc from being a gym teach & sports coach he needs the money to contribute to living at home with his parents. When they die off/ can no longer care for him, I don't think he can live independently, so the plan is hell live with his older brother & family next door & the first of his niece/nephew to marry will rent his house, money going to surviving grandparents/him on condition they'll inherit at his death (then, their "rent" will be the annual property tax/12 + insurance; find rent that cheap! Plus, under CA' Prop 13, they'll pay taxes based on the purchase price from their grandparents. Ditto for whoever inherits our house).

My decision to draw SS ASAP was because I didn't think I'd make it to my regular draw age of 66-something. I'm glad I did. I have other income, as dies Hubby. He's been my non-working care-giver (& I could not ask for better). His choices oh his SS or mine will be reduced by the time he can draw at age 69 (I think), but again, he'll have half my Navy &  Civil Service pensions, his two pensions, plus the IRA(s), residue from the Trust I set up for him, banking, property, rents. He won't starve or lose his home, he just won't be going into the Porsche showroom and saying, "Gimmee two of the red ones!" I suggested he & his gay brother (also single) should live together, & pay 1/2 the rent from the empty house to the other. Financially, Hubby will be fine.
 
5 days ago  

Dryad: Kittypie070: can't we just ask Joe to set them ON fire?

/metaphorically

Why metaphorically?


Because if they were set on fire, Kittypie would have to answer some awkward questions. And everyone is skittish about "but it was sarcasm!" posts since 1/6 for some reason.
 
5 days ago  
You know who else disposed of humans once they were no longer useful to them?

That's right.

Don Knotts.
 
5 days ago  

Lurk Who's Talking: I always heard it is difficult to start receiving SSDI & I'd need to hire a lawyer, at least according to the commercials I saw. When I was diagnosed with cancers (note the plurals: bladder, multiple myeloma and metastis on my L2: I went to doctor at VA, which I'd used since retiring from Navy at 39 because I'd started waking at night with back spasms) at age 60 in Dec, 2016 with a prognosis of 8 months, I did Math & decided I. May as well apply. At best, I knew I'd probably not live long enough not ever again be well enough to work.

The forms in line aren't bad but extremely repetitive, asking for the same information repeatedly. I remember it took about 4 hours. I submitted the work. About two weeks later, I received some additional online forms. I filled this out & received  ack a notice telling me they were received & I would receive a notice of determination in sbout 6-8 weeks.

Actually, a few days later I received an e-mail saying to log into me SS account, which in turn told me when I would start receiving SSDI and how much, plus 6 months back pay for some reason I now forget. The back pay was deposited the next day & the SSDI started on time. I was surprised at how relatively easy & quick it was for a governmental program.

Keep records of doctors & visits. You will be asked for each illness. Write small & in detail. Don't try to do the minimum. Think in paragraphs, not blunt sentences. Pretend you are me writing my interminable screeds. Make them give you money just to shut you up! I really think that's how I was awarded/rewarded on my first try.

I have a nephew (40) losing his sight to macular degeneration & after a year he gave in & hired a lawyer (I offered to help but both his records & his memories were sparse to nil on details - sigh; nearly $13k in legal fees before a ruling in his favor!). Despite good insurance, etc from being a gym teach & sports coach he needs the money to contribute to living at home with his parents. When they die off/ can n ...


The system for disability is utterly broken and applicants that are not on the very limited list of approved conditions (terminal cancer has been one for a while) are entirely at the mercy of administrative law judges, while having a typical wait in years.

Congress needs to reform the entire system and place a commission of doctors and other experts in charge of updating it in future. It would be nice to at least have the initial decision for disability be determined by somebody that is actually trained to make the determination instead of an office drone that just rubber stamps everything.

Then there is the pay structure, especially the minimum payment amount. It's too small to live in 90% of the country and in many places, too little to even live with roommates/family and not be a burden.

I guess it will get added to the massive list of things needing done once we have a functional legislature again.
 
5 days ago  

Lurk Who's Talking: I always heard it is difficult to start receiving SSDI & I'd need to hire a lawyer, at least according to the commercials I saw. When I was diagnosed with cancers (note the plurals: bladder, multiple myeloma and metastis on my L2: I went to doctor at VA, which I'd used since retiring from Navy at 39 because I'd started waking at night with back spasms) at age 60 in Dec, 2016 with a prognosis of 8 months, I did Math & decided I. May as well apply. At best, I knew I'd probably not live long enough not ever again be well enough to work.

The forms in line aren't bad but extremely repetitive, asking for the same information repeatedly. I remember it took about 4 hours. I submitted the work. About two weeks later, I received some additional online forms. I filled this out & received  ack a notice telling me they were received & I would receive a notice of determination in sbout 6-8 weeks.

Actually, a few days later I received an e-mail saying to log into me SS account, which in turn told me when I would start receiving SSDI and how much, plus 6 months back pay for some reason I now forget. The back pay was deposited the next day & the SSDI started on time. I was surprised at how relatively easy & quick it was for a governmental program.

Keep records of doctors & visits. You will be asked for each illness. Write small & in detail. Don't try to do the minimum. Think in paragraphs, not blunt sentences. Pretend you are me writing my interminable screeds. Make them give you money just to shut you up! I really think that's how I was awarded/rewarded on my first try.

I have a nephew (40) losing his sight to macular degeneration & after a year he gave in & hired a lawyer (I offered to help but both his records & his memories were sparse to nil on details - sigh; nearly $13k in legal fees before a ruling in his favor!). Despite good insurance, etc from being a gym teach & sports coach he needs the money to contribute to living at home with his parents. When they die off/ can n ...


OTOH, my sister had to hire a lawyer because Social Security deemed her vision good enough that she could drive (She had never drove a car nor had she ever had a driver's license), when in reality she had lost all the vision in her right eye and had tunnel vision that was so advanced in her left eye that all she could see was a pinpoint of light. She needed assistance in daily stuff like cooking and cleaning. She needed assistance to go shopping too. She had an disease of the retinas that caused them to detach frequently and had undergone several surgeries by a specialist, but she had reached the stage where she was beyond treatment and all of this was in the records she submitted. SS's ophthalmologist though otherwise, which made the retinal specialist who had been treating my sister furious and he disputed this during the hearing to the administrative law judge.

The judge ruled in her favor and she was granted SSDI benefits, but it's just ridiculous about the number of hoops she had to jump through and how long it took.
 
5 days ago  
Oh no, the generation responsible for farking the country up are feeling the consequences of their choices


Guess what subby, not only do we not care, WE ENJOY THE KARMA
 
5 days ago  
My dad gave 30 years of his life to Bic pen. When they forced him out he was only 58. He couldn't really collect his pension. It took two years to get Social Security Disability health insurance. Basically for two years he didn't go to the doctor much. The pills a doctor had put him on gave him three bouts of bladder cancer.

fark bic pen. fark the cruelty.
 
5 days ago  

anuran: We give up vengeance to civil society in return for justice.
We ain't getting justice.


true that. And we're out of farks and got nothing to lose. When we reach that point it gets dangerous for those bastards in charge.
 
5 days ago  

TorpedoOrca: Can't they just fire her?

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No, and you are a moron for posting that meme for the 1 millionth time.
 
5 days ago  
I work in SSA with fraud stuff and I'm actually working on SSI things right now so getting a kick etc.
 
5 days ago  
"Saul, you ever hear about someone just collapsing because they're wore out?

--Jim once wrenched his shoulder something awful when he took that swing in Augusta, remember?

I mean, did that keep him from working? I mean, I saw him sending in his kids to the trading floor the next day, right?

--Well, I suppose. But isn't construction a little different?

Then, they move the guy to the sign holding stuff. This whole line of claims is bogus. Sheesh. I'm going to get Betty to type this up for me, because my carpel tunnel is acting up.
"
 
5 days ago  

lifeslammer: Oh no, the generation responsible for farking the country up are feeling the consequences of their choices


Guess what subby, not only do we not care, WE ENJOY THE KARMA


Somehow, the Trump mentality always finds an excuse to lie and break promises.
 
5 days ago  

anuran: We give up vengeance to civil society in return for justice.
We ain't getting justice.


White people did. Black people? They never got Justice nor vengeance.
 
5 days ago  

Bathia_Mapes: OTOH, my sister had to hire a lawyer because Social Security deemed her vision good enough that she could drive (She had never drove a car nor had she ever had a driver's license), when in reality she had lost all the vision in her right eye and had tunnel vision that was so advanced in her left eye that all she could see was a pinpoint of light. She needed assistance in daily stuff like cooking and cleaning. She needed assistance to go shopping too. She had an disease of the retinas that caused them to detach frequently and had undergone several surgeries by a specialist, but she had reached the stage where she was beyond treatment and all of this was in the records she submitted. SS's ophthalmologist though otherwise, which made the retinal specialist who had been treating my sister furious and he disputed this during the hearing to the administrative law judge.
The judge ruled in her favor and she was granted SSDI benefits, but it's just ridiculous about the number of hoops she had to jump through and how long it took.


Back when I was working as an Adjudicator, vision impairment claims were some of the worst and hardest ones to try to get allowances on.  For those people who are utterly and totally blind, it's a snap.  For anything even slightly less, it was pure mathematics: you sat down with a visual field diagram and a ruler, and you calculated the absolute area of the visual field.  If the total was under the threshold specified in the rules, it was an allowance; if it was over the threshold, the claim probably gets denied.

Never mind that a lot of that visual field might not be useful, being fragmentary, in constricted shapes, or placed too far away from the center of vision.  Never mind that over half of the staff sucked at geometry, and often had to run and get help with the calculations.  It was an objective number, and by God, it was what the decision was going to be based on, context be damned.

The bit about telling your sister she could drive was probably pure form letter.  In our old system, those paragraphs were pre-written.  You just entered codes for the broad category of impairment, and a couple of blanks would pop up where you could type in the name(s) of the specific medical diagnosis.  It's probably even more streamlined these days.  (Even in the mid-oughts, our system looked like something out of the early 90's.)

So glad I got out of that line of work.
// Often, the most you could do for people was deny them quickly, so they could get to the ALJ faster.
/// The real burnouts would admit that to claimants post-denial, at least over the phone.  Good way to get fired.
 
5 days ago  

lifeslammer: Oh no, the generation responsible for farking the country up are feeling the consequences of their choices


Guess what subby, not only do we not care, WE ENJOY THE KARMA


Username checks out
 
4 days ago  
Trump holdovers are denying Social Security benefits to the hardest working Americans.


sysadmins?
 
4 days ago  
My wife is a physical wreck (Bell's Palsy, TIA strokes, cancer, migraines, balance issues, Hashimoto's Disease, Exocrine Pancreatic Insufficiency) and has been denied SSI twice!  Her doctors are livid.

The Republicans cry "fraud" yet won't fund the agencies to sufficiently police the fraud, which would pay for itself hundreds to thousands of times over in extreme cases like Medicare fraud (looking at you, Batboy).
 
4 days ago  

lifeslammer: Oh no, the generation responsible for farking the country up are feeling the consequences of their choices


Guess what subby, not only do we not care, WE ENJOY THE KARMA


Social Security
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4 days ago  

Krieghund: PaulRB: How hard is it to fire these Farks?  I can't imagine Biden not wanting to fire these guys immediately after reading this article.  Makes you wonder.

Commissioner of Social Security[42 U.S.C. ... An individual serving in the office of Commissioner may be removed from office only pursuant to a finding by the President of neglect of duty or malfeasance in office.Unfortunately, I doubt this meets the criteria.


Deliberately sabotaging peoples access to the help they need should qualify as malfeasance.
 
4 days ago  

TorpedoOrca: Can't they just fire her?

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I still can't believe five guys wanted to marry her.
 
4 days ago  
Of course SSDI is ripe with fraud. My sister was on it for almost two decades (for panic attacks that prevented her from driving). She lost it when she was arrested / pled to acting as a mule in an oxycontin mill. Kinda sucks to be her. Sure, she hasn't worked a steady job since her late 30s and probably doesn't have enough regular SS income history to receive much of anything in Social Security (she turns 61 this year) when she does 'retire'. You can get by on very little if your mom buys you a small house and father pays the taxes on it.

The problem with SSDI is that the government doesn't track people well enough to easily detect the fraud, but does require a lot of paperwork to qualify. That means that the only people getting it are those that deserve it and can navigate the process and fraudsters who learn to navigate the process to get paid. This is one of the things that UBI can solve, but I suspect that a large number of people might actually learn how to live meagerly to avoid work, especially if their wages are already low.
 
4 days ago  

Lurk Who's Talking: I always heard it is difficult to start receiving SSDI & I'd need to hire a lawyer, at least according to the commercials I saw. When I was diagnosed with cancers (note the plurals: bladder, multiple myeloma and metastis on my L2: I went to doctor at VA, which I'd used since retiring from Navy at 39 because I'd started waking at night with back spasms) at age 60 in Dec, 2016 with a prognosis of 8 months, I did Math & decided I. May as well apply. At best, I knew I'd probably not live long enough not ever again be well enough to work.

The forms in line aren't bad but extremely repetitive, asking for the same information repeatedly. I remember it took about 4 hours. I submitted the work. About two weeks later, I received some additional online forms. I filled this out & received  ack a notice telling me they were received & I would receive a notice of determination in sbout 6-8 weeks.

Actually, a few days later I received an e-mail saying to log into me SS account, which in turn told me when I would start receiving SSDI and how much, plus 6 months back pay for some reason I now forget. The back pay was deposited the next day & the SSDI started on time. I was surprised at how relatively easy & quick it was for a governmental program.

Keep records of doctors & visits. You will be asked for each illness. Write small & in detail. Don't try to do the minimum. Think in paragraphs, not blunt sentences. Pretend you are me writing my interminable screeds. Make them give you money just to shut you up! I really think that's how I was awarded/rewarded on my first try.


Part of the reason you got approved so fast is because you were using the VA so your health records were easily accessible. Government agencies tend to trust the info sent by other government agencies.

It took me 5 months to navigate the system and get a determination. There was a government shut down in the middle of my process but I have no idea how much it delayed it. I had to go to doctors (picked and paid for by the SSA) to verify all my claims. I tried to be thorough so I did mention my hearing impairment even though it does not prevent me from working. They sent me to an audiologist. When I told them that the deafness is a non-issue and I really don't need to pursue that part I was told I needed to follow all procedures or my application would be voided. It was actually good to get a free audiology exam for the first time since I started college. Right ear is still dead and left ear is still better than average.

Anyway, I got the determination and back pay in a timely manner even though I did the entire application process myself with no attorneys. Yes, it helped that I kept medical records so I could give dates, doctors, and clinics.

I got it at age 58 but have not had a review. They told me I probably wouldn't since I was already close to retirement age and would likely be over 63 when my case first got flagged to review. They don't bother if you are that close.
 
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