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(Gizmodo)   We deserve a documentary about what is wrong with our oceans and what we can do to fix it. Netflix's moronic crypto-vegan "Seaspiracy" isn't that documentary   (earther.gizmodo.com) divider line
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2021-04-07 11:17:58 PM  
And we all thought the North Koreans were going mad when they started launching missiles into the Sea....

#Seaspiracy2021
 
2021-04-07 11:18:46 PM  
if you seespirasea, sayspiracy
 
2021-04-07 11:28:08 PM  
What we can do to fix it? We can all die very quickly. As long as we are still alive, there is no way to fix it.
 
2021-04-08 1:30:23 AM  
The crypto-vegan bubble is going to burst as soon as we have quantum-vegans.
 
2021-04-08 1:43:52 AM  
I've heard of this, and don't know anything about it, but I refuse to watch it because they went wit Seaspiracy instead of ConspiraSea.
 
2021-04-08 1:58:21 AM  

Everything is Awful: I've heard of this, and don't know anything about it, but I refuse to watch it because they went wit Seaspiracy instead of ConspiraSea.


You win the internet.
 
2021-04-08 2:32:45 AM  
Read the description and decided it wasn't worth the click.
 
2021-04-08 2:37:42 AM  
Netflix seems to go out of its way to find and find these awful documentaries
 
2021-04-08 2:52:33 AM  

nigeman: Netflix seems to go out of its way to find and find these awful documentaries


They're just throwing shiat at the wall until they find their next Tiger King.
 
2021-04-08 6:21:28 AM  
David Attenborough's A Life on our Planet is the documentary you're looking for, subby.
 
2021-04-08 7:00:18 AM  
But a lot of celebrities on Instagram have been recommending it, so I don't know who to believe.
 
2021-04-08 7:23:43 AM  

nigeman: Netflix seems to go out of its way to find and find these awful documentaries


Ever looked at the awful offerings Amazon Prime has? Ever since Roger & Me there has been a whole new industry of pseudo independent documentarians who do not document so much as present their viewpoint regardless of facts and reality. Netflix, Prime, & Youtube combine to present as much ignorance to the masses as your Facebook/FWD,FWD,FWD emails.

If these documentaries or news items are not presenting a biased viewpoint, then they are often presenting just lazy journalism seeking ratings. Betelgeuse going super-nova, life found on Venus, the mysterious signal from Proxima Centauri, and Oumuamua as possible/probable alien probe, are all perfect examples of mainstream news reporting sensational headlines without actually bothering to investigate.
 
2021-04-08 7:27:04 AM  
The fact that they went with the risible "Seaspiricy" instead of "Conspirasea" is clue number one...
 
2021-04-08 8:18:59 AM  
"Thanks, but I'd rather be told I can continue doing what makes me comfortable without thinking of the repercussions."
 
2021-04-08 9:45:13 AM  
Lots of the marine scientists, conservation biologists, and ichthyologists I follow on social media agree that this attempt at a documentary is trash. Yes, the way we treat our oceans is horrible and unsustainable in a number of ways, but having FEELINGS about sea turtles isn't going to fix anything, and telling everyone the only solution is to go vegan isn't almost as useless, and attacking the people who have been doing the work for years because they're not doing the work your way is the opposite of helping.

https://www.hakaimagazine.com/article​-​short/seaspiracy-harms-more-than-it-ed​ucates/

https://twitter.com/gottesmanhannah/s​t​atus/1378800168275959818?s=21

https://twitter.com/cheese_bubbles/st​a​tus/1379805284856590338?s=21

https://sustainablefisheries-uw.org/s​c​ience-of-seaspiracy/

https://medium.com/@kaelynmaehara/sea​s​piracy-why-as-an-asian-ocean-activist-​it-was-so-harmful-e3813fe58ceb

Though I have to say I was heartened, while searching for the above links, to see hundreds of people swearing off seafood after watching it. I hope many of them actually do and that at least a handful of them commit to actions that will change the practices employed in commercial fisheries. We can't just tell the world to stop eating fish, but we can make fishing practices less cruel and exploitative, if enough people speak up and enough researchers come up with better alternatives.
 
2021-04-08 10:06:14 AM  
What a terrible, terrible name.
 
2021-04-08 11:16:12 AM  

EyeballKid: "Thanks, but I'd rather be told I can continue doing what makes me comfortable without thinking of the repercussions."


This show is trying to tell people to stop eating fish entirely to kill the fishing industry and remove both fishing and nets as a problem. Sure, that would work, but the whole planet isn't going vegan. It's what I hate about shows like this. Instead of offering up ideas of how to do better, they push for ultra extreme solutions.

The show begins with the narrator's obsession with plastic pollution in the ocean. He cares a lot about reducing plastic debris.  He then sits down to interview a couple of people who work at some nonprofit dedicated to getting plastic out of the ocean. These people should be his allies, right?  They also want to remove plastic from the ocean, but when they don't answer his questions the exact way he wants, he then portrays them as being horrible people who are as much of a problem as the fishing industry.  What an asshole.

This thing did focus in how discarded nets end up killing a whole bunch of sea turtles and whales and dolphins. They also wash up on beaches all over and are the biggest single source of plastic pollution.  Instead of pushing global veganism to save the oceans, maybe start with something more likely to be doable. Maybe ask the world governments telling the fishing industry to stop throwing old nets overboard.
 
2021-04-08 2:11:08 PM  
My Octopus Teacher

Some of it is fun to watch but the guys story is hard to listen to.
"My life was horrible"
Translation: "We were out of avocados"
"The octopus taught me how to live again"
Translation: "We got some avocados"
"The octopus died"
Translation: "No more avocados"
"I was able to connect with my son"

Moral of the story: "You shouldn't have been allowed to breed"
 
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