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(Slate)   "In any case, my headline from May of last year ... it was wrong, and by extension, I was wrong. It can be very good to be wrong. Mea culpa-and hooray, let's plan a wild summer"   (slate.com) divider line
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4 days ago  
IT WAS A GODDAMN MIRACLE (with fortuitous research from by-gone days).

This is as close to a miracle most people will have experienced.
 
4 days ago  
Hopefully I'll be over the side effects from shot #2 in 12-18 months
 
4 days ago  
It used to be, when someone realized they were wrong, they'd shut up for a bit and listen.
 
4 days ago  
Yeah, no need to apologize here. This is without question our generation's moonshot. I was getting my second shot last week and was really struck that ~12 months had passed. Early on in the pandemic, the idea that we'd have a vaccine actually being delivered in the late Winter / early Spring of 2021 was laughable. It's an unmitigated triumph of science.
 
4 days ago  
Yes, yes. Thank Bill Gates and Soros.
 
4 days ago  
You write for Slate. Everything you've ever written, said or thought is wrong by default.
 
4 days ago  
Jesus, could that article have contained any more hyperlinks? Every third word was underlined.

As for the vaccine, our state and county will no longer have a mask mandate as of Saturday because people with money have decided that "almost there" is close enough. Farking morons. But at least the household is getting the vaccine. My wife got her second dose yesterday(and her side effects today), and my stepsons got their first ones yesterday afternoon. I still have to wait, but I see the doc next week and will hopefully get the all clear to get mine. Can't come soon enough if they're gonna start opening shiat up.
 
4 days ago  

psilocyberguy: IT WAS A GODDAMN MIRACLE (with fortuitous research from by-gone days).

This is as close to a miracle most people will have experienced.


Shots and pears.
 
4 days ago  
Meanwhile, at Fox News, they are  still convinced that Obama is from Kenya, and that Trump will become President again on Memorial Day.
 
4 days ago  
Oh dear FSM, she's a writer/researcher for Popular Science... lol a whole lot closer to OMNI magazine speculative trash than it is to the likes of Nature.
 
4 days ago  
Which is to say that no shiat she got it wrong
 
4 days ago  

6nome: Yes, yes. Thank Bill Gates and Soros.


FFS we could've just raised taxes a wee bit and could've outspent both of them by an order of magnitude.

Quit smoking billionaire "philanthropists" poles.
 
4 days ago  
I for one was tormented by the lack of an apology from this writer.
 
4 days ago  

6nome: Yes, yes. Thank Bill Gates and Soros.


Charity is not justice nor is it science.
 
4 days ago  
I got my first Pfizer yesterday. Packed considerably more wallop than I expected. Didn't feel anything but the pharmacist's gloves when I got stuck but I felt weird all day yesterday and part of today, dude.

First couple of hours, my mouth didn't work right. It wasn't numb, it was just like I forgot how to talk. I've been absolutely starving for ~30hrs. Been exhausted (yet somehow also wired) and confused. I put some chicken in the oven earlier and set the timer and an hour and a half later, discovered that I never turned the goddamn oven on.

And of course my arm has been pretty stiff and sore. Not painful, just like it's atrophied. That's gotten a lot better in the last few hours though. Had a bit of the shivers off and on, but my temperature's been nowhere near feverish. Between the shivers and this really odd extreme relaxation/euphoria, it kinda felt like being on X.

I dunno how much truth there is to this but I read that if you have a more significant reaction to the first shot, it's possible that you'd had an asymptomatic infection recently and already had antibodies, so the first shot feels like the second. I hope that doesn't mean the second shot will annihilate me.

Don't get it twisted - I'm totally fine, and you will be too if you get the vaccine.

It's just been VERY weird.
 
4 days ago  
Well, if it makes her feel any better about her prognostication skills, it'll likely be over 18 months from the date I caught Covid (March '20) to the time I get the second dose of the vaccine (target date for my age group in BC is currently Nov '21).

So maybe she was wrong, or maybe she just misread the alignment of the space-time thingamajig.
 
4 days ago  

gameshowhost: Which is to say that no shiat she got it wrong


Do you knuckleheads even bother to read before commenting? (This is a rhetorical question.)

She didn't get it wrong. She reported on what experts told her was most likely, as the piece makes clear over and over and over again. Literally the third damn line of the story makes that it wasn't some guess she made, it was experts (including Fauci) who initially predicted it would take longer than it did. And her original piece reads the same. It's not her guessing, it's her reporting what those in the field were predicting.

And she's far from alone. LOTS of reporting last year suggested it would still be a while before we had a vaccine. I mean, hell, one of the common sentiments in recent months is that having the vaccine right now was a remarkable feat.

If anyone was wrong, and it was the experts - and understandably so, since developing this vaccine is widely acknowledged to be a fantastic feat of modern medical science. All she's doing is taking ownership of her own headlines while celebrating what was accomplished with the vaccine.

Which is a good thing.
 
4 days ago  
Oh also I haven't had ANY kind of vaccine or injection other than carbocaine at the dentist (can't have lidocaine because I'm extremely sensitive to epinephrine) in almost 25 years, and I haven't been any kind of sick in over 4 years, so that could have something to do with it.
 
4 days ago  

psilocyberguy: IT WAS A GODDAMN MIRACLE (with fortuitous research from by-gone days).

This is as close to a miracle most people will have experienced.


It's amazing what we can do when we all work together. IMHO the cooperation across the globe is the miracle here.
 
4 days ago  

Skeleton Man: I got my first Pfizer yesterday. Packed considerably more wallop than I expected. Didn't feel anything but the pharmacist's gloves when I got stuck but I felt weird all day yesterday and part of today, dude.

First couple of hours, my mouth didn't work right. It wasn't numb, it was just like I forgot how to talk. I've been absolutely starving for ~30hrs. Been exhausted (yet somehow also wired) and confused. I put some chicken in the oven earlier and set the timer and an hour and a half later, discovered that I never turned the goddamn oven on.

And of course my arm has been pretty stiff and sore. Not painful, just like it's atrophied. That's gotten a lot better in the last few hours though. Had a bit of the shivers off and on, but my temperature's been nowhere near feverish. Between the shivers and this really odd extreme relaxation/euphoria, it kinda felt like being on X.

I dunno how much truth there is to this but I read that if you have a more significant reaction to the first shot, it's possible that you'd had an asymptomatic infection recently and already had antibodies, so the first shot feels like the second. I hope that doesn't mean the second shot will annihilate me.

Don't get it twisted - I'm totally fine, and you will be too if you get the vaccine.

It's just been VERY weird.


Yikes. Hope you feel better. Just know that this means it's working. Your body made the spike thingies and your immune system is going into overdrive. You're getting healthier overall, unless you ate that chicken.

/had a runny nose the night of my second Pfizer shot, but didn't feel too bad overall
 
4 days ago  

shoegaze99: gameshowhost: Which is to say that no shiat she got it wrong

Do you knuckleheads even bother to read before commenting? (This is a rhetorical question.)

She didn't get it wrong. She reported on what experts told her was most likely, as the piece makes clear over and over and over again. Literally the third damn line of the story makes that it wasn't some guess she made, it was experts (including Fauci) who initially predicted it would take longer than it did. And her original piece reads the same. It's not her guessing, it's her reporting what those in the field were predicting.

And she's far from alone. LOTS of reporting last year suggested it would still be a while before we had a vaccine. I mean, hell, one of the common sentiments in recent months is that having the vaccine right now was a remarkable feat.

If anyone was wrong, and it was the experts - and understandably so, since developing this vaccine is widely acknowledged to be a fantastic feat of modern medical science. All she's doing is taking ownership of her own headlines while celebrating what was accomplished with the vaccine.

Which is a good thing.


When we set our sights nice and low, if anything decent happens we can call it miraculous instead of actually working hard enough so that "this should be the norm".

/money. pays. for. faster. results. in. everything. that. isn't. 100%. temporal.
//our shiat-tier taxation as % of GDP holds us back more than anything
 
4 days ago  

shoegaze99: gameshowhost: Which is to say that no shiat she got it wrong

Do you knuckleheads even bother to read before commenting? (This is a rhetorical question.)

She didn't get it wrong. She reported on what experts told her was most likely, as the piece makes clear over and over and over again. Literally the third damn line of the story makes that it wasn't some guess she made, it was experts (including Fauci) who initially predicted it would take longer than it did. And her original piece reads the same. It's not her guessing, it's her reporting what those in the field were predicting.

And she's far from alone. LOTS of reporting last year suggested it would still be a while before we had a vaccine. I mean, hell, one of the common sentiments in recent months is that having the vaccine right now was a remarkable feat.

If anyone was wrong, and it was the experts - and understandably so, since developing this vaccine is widely acknowledged to be a fantastic feat of modern medical science. All she's doing is taking ownership of her own headlines while celebrating what was accomplished with the vaccine.

Which is a good thing.


The groundbreaking new technology of building a vaccine tailor made from the bottom up helped a lot with that, and opens the door to all kinds of new treatments for incurable diseases in the future using the same tech.
 
4 days ago  

Super Chronic: Skeleton Man: I got my first Pfizer yesterday. Packed considerably more wallop than I expected. Didn't feel anything but the pharmacist's gloves when I got stuck but I felt weird all day yesterday and part of today, dude.

First couple of hours, my mouth didn't work right. It wasn't numb, it was just like I forgot how to talk. I've been absolutely starving for ~30hrs. Been exhausted (yet somehow also wired) and confused. I put some chicken in the oven earlier and set the timer and an hour and a half later, discovered that I never turned the goddamn oven on.

And of course my arm has been pretty stiff and sore. Not painful, just like it's atrophied. That's gotten a lot better in the last few hours though. Had a bit of the shivers off and on, but my temperature's been nowhere near feverish. Between the shivers and this really odd extreme relaxation/euphoria, it kinda felt like being on X.

I dunno how much truth there is to this but I read that if you have a more significant reaction to the first shot, it's possible that you'd had an asymptomatic infection recently and already had antibodies, so the first shot feels like the second. I hope that doesn't mean the second shot will annihilate me.

Don't get it twisted - I'm totally fine, and you will be too if you get the vaccine.

It's just been VERY weird.

Yikes. Hope you feel better. Just know that this means it's working. Your body made the spike thingies and your immune system is going into overdrive. You're getting healthier overall, unless you ate that chicken.

/had a runny nose the night of my second Pfizer shot, but didn't feel too bad overall


Welp. Guess now OP has an idea how his body would react to having Covid, only if it were a real emergency instead of just a readiness drill it would last for weeks and be much worse.
 
4 days ago  
Got the Pfizer Saturday. Felt like a zombie until I started to drink. Be advised farkers. But yeah, Sunday morning I woke up in a city I never been to in a cheap hotel with some fat woman feeling like shiat.

...maybe it wasn't all the vaccine.
 
4 days ago  

Mikey1969: Jesus, could that article have contained any more hyperlinks? Every third word was underlined.

As for the vaccine, our state and county will no longer have a mask mandate as of Saturday because people with money have decided that "almost there" is close enough. Farking morons. But at least the household is getting the vaccine. My wife got her second dose yesterday(and her side effects today), and my stepsons got their first ones yesterday afternoon. I still have to wait, but I see the doc next week and will hopefully get the all clear to get mine. Can't come soon enough if they're gonna start opening shiat up.


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4 days ago  
"Based on past events concretes normally takes anywhere from 6 to 38 hours to cure, depending on all kinds of events out of our control. Then the one guy who pours it takes about 12 hours himself. So we all should reasonably expect this to take 18 to 50 hours."

"Yeahhhh, but we need to get this done as quickly as possible. FFS this is mission critical. Why the hell can we not pay a bunch of people and get the concrete poured in an hour? Then we're reasonably looking at anywhere from *13 to 39* hours instead of 18 to 50!"

"ok but bill gates hasn't offered yet"

"WE CAN POOL OUR EXISTING RESOURCES AND IT WON'T COST EACH OF US MUCH PER INDIVIDUAL"

"but rich people and philanthropy"

"WE HAVE ZERO REASON TO RELY ON THEM FOR ANYTHING"

"billionaires are our only hope"

"GAAAAH"
 
4 days ago  

Mikey1969: Jesus, could that article have contained any more hyperlinks? Every third word was underlined.

As for the vaccine, our state and county will no longer have a mask mandate as of Saturday because people with money have decided that "almost there" is close enough. Farking morons. But at least the household is getting the vaccine. My wife got her second dose yesterday(and her side effects today), and my stepsons got their first ones yesterday afternoon. I still have to wait, but I see the doc next week and will hopefully get the all clear to get mine. Can't come soon enough if they're gonna start opening shiat up.


The great part is that the virus gets to try itself over and over again against vaccinated people while circulating in a reservoir of unvaccinated people. It's so kind of them to give the vaccine a chance to level up before we've wiped it out.
 
4 days ago  
"Hey, you know if we pay more research laboratories to get a vaccine, it's more likely that the vaccine gets completed earlier."

"but.. .but... Bill Gates and Elon Musk haven't said anything about doing that much..."

"Right. But society needs this to be done as soon a possible. Which is why we increase taxes on the ones who have run away with so much wealth that we're in the second gilded age now, so we can more easily afford to put a lot of money into this, essentially ensuring a quicker result."

"you're a jealous pedophile"

"GAAAH"
 
4 days ago  

gameshowhost: 6nome: Yes, yes. Thank Bill Gates and Soros.

FFS we could've just raised taxes a wee bit and could've outspent both of them by an order of magnitude.

Quit smoking billionaire "philanthropists" poles.


The previous administration raising taxes to fund vaccine research?  Are you high?  That was even less likely to happen than the pandemic just magically going away when summer arrived.

I don't disagree with the sentiment of your post, but let's be real.
 
4 days ago  
"Bill Gates. So dreamy."

"You're... seriously.... hindering society with your bizarre worship of those who have set up a system where they take half of your money from you before you're even subjected to taxes, then trying to tell you that they're your saviors. You're like a dog who got thrown into a river and are wagging your tail because the guy who threw you into the river is extending a hand."

"You're a communist."

"GAAAAH"
 
4 days ago  

Neondistraction: gameshowhost: 6nome: Yes, yes. Thank Bill Gates and Soros.

FFS we could've just raised taxes a wee bit and could've outspent both of them by an order of magnitude.

Quit smoking billionaire "philanthropists" poles.

The previous administration raising taxes to fund vaccine research?  Are you high?  That was even less likely to happen than the pandemic just magically going away when summer arrived.

I don't disagree with the sentiment of your post, but let's be real.


Who says the increase has to magically be a retroactive event?
 
4 days ago  

Skeleton Man: I got my first Pfizer yesterday. Packed considerably more wallop than I expected. Didn't feel anything but the pharmacist's gloves when I got stuck but I felt weird all day yesterday and part of today, dude.

First couple of hours, my mouth didn't work right. It wasn't numb, it was just like I forgot how to talk. I've been absolutely starving for ~30hrs. Been exhausted (yet somehow also wired) and confused. I put some chicken in the oven earlier and set the timer and an hour and a half later, discovered that I never turned the goddamn oven on.

And of course my arm has been pretty stiff and sore. Not painful, just like it's atrophied. That's gotten a lot better in the last few hours though. Had a bit of the shivers off and on, but my temperature's been nowhere near feverish. Between the shivers and this really odd extreme relaxation/euphoria, it kinda felt like being on X.

I dunno how much truth there is to this but I read that if you have a more significant reaction to the first shot, it's possible that you'd had an asymptomatic infection recently and already had antibodies, so the first shot feels like the second. I hope that doesn't mean the second shot will annihilate me.

Don't get it twisted - I'm totally fine, and you will be too if you get the vaccine.

It's just been VERY weird.


My wife had a headache all day after her first shot. And not her normal headache, or her less frequent, but worse, migraines. It went away after a day, but she got her second shot yesterday, and was feeling nauseous from noon on. Today, she's been sleeping almost all day, just not feeling well, but still nowhere near where she was last year in February, when she got the "flu" (As sick as she got, we still think it might have been a more mild Covid infection), so she'll be fine tomorrow or the next day, and it will all be good. But she's feeling pretty crappy today...
 
4 days ago  

apoptotic: Well, if it makes her feel any better about her prognostication skills, it'll likely be over 18 months from the date I caught Covid (March '20) to the time I get the second dose of the vaccine (target date for my age group in BC is currently Nov '21).

So maybe she was wrong, or maybe she just misread the alignment of the space-time thingamajig.


November? What's your age group? Holy crap, we've been open to all over 16 here in Utah for a couple of weeks... I thought Canada was on top of this? Hell, by November, the US will probably be fully vaccinated, minus the anti-vaxxers and those who can't get the vaccine.
 
4 days ago  

gameshowhost: Neondistraction: gameshowhost: 6nome: Yes, yes. Thank Bill Gates and Soros.

FFS we could've just raised taxes a wee bit and could've outspent both of them by an order of magnitude.

Quit smoking billionaire "philanthropists" poles.

The previous administration raising taxes to fund vaccine research?  Are you high?  That was even less likely to happen than the pandemic just magically going away when summer arrived.

I don't disagree with the sentiment of your post, but let's be real.

Who says the increase has to magically be a retroactive event?


Um, no one because that's not how taxes work?

My point was that the federal government clearly wasn't going to do enough, and some super rich people helped fill in the gaps.  I'm not saying they're heroes or deserve a parade but I've no problem with people thanking them for their help.
 
4 days ago  

Skeleton Man: I dunno how much truth there is to this but I read that if you have a more significant reaction to the first shot, it's possible that you'd had an asymptomatic infection recently and already had antibodies, so the first shot feels like the second. I hope that doesn't mean the second shot will annihilate me.


Someone I know was walloped by the first shot and had fewer problems the second time around. My shots gave me just a couple of days of sore arm, the first one mild and the second one definitely worse but bearable. Both of us had the Pfizer at the same time.

I went into it figuring there'd be some sort of side effect, but that's better than getting COVID, and to be honest, the flu and pneumonia shots I had together last year at the start of this mess were worse. At least the pneumonia shot lasts ten years.

/not throwing out the masks
//watching the numbers nervously
 
4 days ago  

skyotter: It used to be, when someone realized they were wrong, they'd shut up for a bit and listen.


This person admitted they were wrong, which is extremely rare.

gameshowhost: You're... seriously.... hindering society with your bizarre worship of those who have set up a system where they take half of your money from you before you're even subjected to taxes,


I don't know if this was your post or you were quoting something, but I don't understand what this means.
 
4 days ago  

Neondistraction: gameshowhost: Neondistraction: gameshowhost: 6nome: Yes, yes. Thank Bill Gates and Soros.

FFS we could've just raised taxes a wee bit and could've outspent both of them by an order of magnitude.

Quit smoking billionaire "philanthropists" poles.

The previous administration raising taxes to fund vaccine research?  Are you high?  That was even less likely to happen than the pandemic just magically going away when summer arrived.

I don't disagree with the sentiment of your post, but let's be real.

Who says the increase has to magically be a retroactive event?

Um, no one because that's not how taxes work?

My point was that the federal government clearly wasn't going to do enough, and some super rich people helped fill in the gaps.  I'm not saying they're heroes or deserve a parade but I've no problem with people thanking them for their help.


We'll thank them once they've paid their share of taxes. How about until then we make it a bare minimal expectation in a society that's so completely broken that just the ~ten~ wealthiest americans are worth ~over one trillion dollars~ ?
 
4 days ago  

Super Chronic: /had a runny nose the night of my second Pfizer shot, but didn't feel too bad overall


Hmm, now that I think about it, I did have a couple of nights where I felt slightly sniffly after the second shot. I'm not sure whether that's just a wee bit of hay fever or the shot (why not both?). I still have one more week from tomorrow for the two weeks to end. I'll still say it went far better for me than last year's flu+pneumonia shots.
 
4 days ago  
still should have been in lockdown(real one like cut power to the airports etc)  till there was enough vaccine to jab everybody over the span of a month. to limit mutation, and to make sure once the vaccine goes live it doesn't get a chance to mutate into a strain that his resistant to the vaccine.
 
4 days ago  
The pandemic cheerleader is already here, the rest should be along shortly.
 
4 days ago  

Mikey1969: apoptotic: Well, if it makes her feel any better about her prognostication skills, it'll likely be over 18 months from the date I caught Covid (March '20) to the time I get the second dose of the vaccine (target date for my age group in BC is currently Nov '21).

So maybe she was wrong, or maybe she just misread the alignment of the space-time thingamajig.

November? What's your age group? Holy crap, we've been open to all over 16 here in Utah for a couple of weeks... I thought Canada was on top of this? Hell, by November, the US will probably be fully vaccinated, minus the anti-vaxxers and those who can't get the vaccine.


Under 50. As it stands my first shot will likely be sometime between the third week of June and the second week of July, but unless we get an absolute shiat-ton of vaccine from somewhere and things speed up a lot, we're on a 4-months-between-doses "plan".

At least registering is easy. We just switched from health region call-in hotlines to a province-wide website. It went live yesterday, I registered yesterday, and now I just wait for a text telling me when appointments for my age group are available. In the meantime, I continue my decades-long habit of staying tf away from people.
 
4 days ago  

Fubegra: Super Chronic: /had a runny nose the night of my second Pfizer shot, but didn't feel too bad overall

Hmm, now that I think about it, I did have a couple of nights where I felt slightly sniffly after the second shot. I'm not sure whether that's just a wee bit of hay fever or the shot (why not both?). I still have one more week from tomorrow for the two weeks to end. I'll still say it went far better for me than last year's flu+pneumonia shots.


This applies to me too -- I do get sniffles, but an actual runny nose (you know, liquid snot dripping out) would be unusual. And it was several weeks ago, before spring had really sprung.
 
4 days ago  

Fubegra: Skeleton Man: I dunno how much truth there is to this but I read that if you have a more significant reaction to the first shot, it's possible that you'd had an asymptomatic infection recently and already had antibodies, so the first shot feels like the second. I hope that doesn't mean the second shot will annihilate me.

Someone I know was walloped by the first shot and had fewer problems the second time around. My shots gave me just a couple of days of sore arm, the first one mild and the second one definitely worse but bearable. Both of us had the Pfizer at the same time.

I went into it figuring there'd be some sort of side effect, but that's better than getting COVID, and to be honest, the flu and pneumonia shots I had together last year at the start of this mess were worse. At least the pneumonia shot lasts ten years.

/not throwing out the masks
//watching the numbers nervously


I was good the first 36 hours with a sore arm that was less than tetanus and more than any other (I've had many). But I did feel like I was walking through mud on the second day. I didn't have any pain or fever, but it was a slog.
 
4 days ago  

apoptotic: Mikey1969: apoptotic: Well, if it makes her feel any better about her prognostication skills, it'll likely be over 18 months from the date I caught Covid (March '20) to the time I get the second dose of the vaccine (target date for my age group in BC is currently Nov '21).

So maybe she was wrong, or maybe she just misread the alignment of the space-time thingamajig.

November? What's your age group? Holy crap, we've been open to all over 16 here in Utah for a couple of weeks... I thought Canada was on top of this? Hell, by November, the US will probably be fully vaccinated, minus the anti-vaxxers and those who can't get the vaccine.

Under 50. As it stands my first shot will likely be sometime between the third week of June and the second week of July, but unless we get an absolute shiat-ton of vaccine from somewhere and things speed up a lot, we're on a 4-months-between-doses "plan".

At least registering is easy. We just switched from health region call-in hotlines to a province-wide website. It went live yesterday, I registered yesterday, and now I just wait for a text telling me when appointments for my age group are available. In the meantime, I continue my decades-long habit of staying tf away from people.


You'll get it by mid may.
 
4 days ago  
mjbok:

gameshowhost: You're... seriously.... hindering society with your bizarre worship of those who have set up a system where they take half of your money from you before you're even subjected to taxes,

I don't know if this was your post or you were quoting something, but I don't understand what this means.


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economics is crystal clear: labor must be compensated at a rate that meets its average marginal product, or it's not efficient. that means market failure. market failure needs to be immediately corrected, not expanded upon for decades. or, "if the dark blue line is getting more than a wee bit above the light blue line, the economy isn't functioning correctly." ya there's a bit of room off the top to account for value added from supervision, but that's on the order of a few percentage points at best. the pair of blue lines should essentially ~almost~ overlap all the time, and they should never stray much, or for long, w/o swift correction.

oh and capital is not value added, so it earns nothing. zero. it's merely an opportunity for the richest to force everyone else's potential ownership stake out of contention. just like how money is not free speech - it's just the ability to prevent others from speaking. so then, capital merrily profits off of those who add value, which then gives capital an even greater opportunity to force out even more potential ownership stake... rinse, repeat, all in the downward spiral that is never-ending capital accumulation to those who already have capital.

/which is just another reason why intrafamiliar intergenerational wealth transfer needs to go byebye. it's systemic, unearned advantage.
//a relic of thousands of years of perverse patriarchal proto-civilizatio​n, just like slavery was/is
 
4 days ago  
I don't understand how Bill gates is taking half my income before taxes.  Outside of windows licenses (and that really doesn't go to him) how does he (or any other rich person) get that money?

gameshowhost: /which is just another reason why intrafamiliar intergenerational wealth transfer needs to go byebye. it's systemic, unearned advantage.


I am not a beneficiary of it, but it absolutely is earned in many cases.
 
4 days ago  
Wife and are going for Moderna.2.0 Friday. First round no problem. Hope this is the same.
 
4 days ago  

mjbok: I don't understand how Bill gates is taking half my income before taxes.  Outside of windows licenses (and that really doesn't go to him) how does he (or any other rich person) get that money?



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mjbok:

gameshowhost: /which is just another reason why intrafamiliar intergenerational wealth transfer needs to go byebye. it's systemic, unearned advantage.

I am not a beneficiary of it, but it absolutely is earned in many cases.


Um, no. Any silver spoon spoogebaby can be paid for their work they do for mommie or daddie before they die.

They did zero to earn anything from the ~estate~. Zero. You did not make any of that, lil cumspawn fauntleroy.

They should all be glad that only the far, far left (something nigh nonexistent in the united states) isn't down with granting some reasonable exemption. If silver spooners want to keep pushing it, let them roll the dice and dare the rest of us to start being on board with cutting into that exemption.
 
4 days ago  

psilocyberguy: IT WAS A GODDAMN MIRACLE (with fortuitous research from by-gone days).

This is as close to a miracle most people will have experienced.


Do we really want to declare the vaccines developed under the Trump a miracle?  I mean unless we have the BidenHarris come out and say "yes, the vaccines came out under the Trump, but through the deep state our team took over before and after the election, behind the scenes, for the good of the nation.  All through the cabal of people fortifying the election and the country.  You won't ever learn who they are, but they are there, behind the scenes, pulling the strings.  Just remember, we made a miracle for you people.". Then we can declare it a miracle.  Because I think we all know that Trump couldn't have pulled this off without the BidenHarris and the Clinton behind the scenes, directing the cabal.
 
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Better than saying "Vaccine probably right around the corner!" as early as April like the outlets that had writers living up their own ass. Imagine the egg on your face then.

Always better to be cautiously wrong than the alternative.
 
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