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2021-03-20 10:26:15 AM  
That's not what I read.
 
2021-03-20 11:06:50 AM  
Wow.  A "history" of the world, edited by anyone with an agenda, might have inaccuracies?

They'll get it sorted out eventually. After all, did we quit after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?*

* John Blutarski, Faber College,  1978
 
2021-03-20 12:30:06 PM  
Pretty sure the "wisdom of the crowd" was definitively disproven about 4 years ago.
 
2021-03-20 12:30:36 PM  
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2021-03-20 12:32:15 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Pretty sure the "wisdom of the crowd" was definitively disproven about 4 years ago.


4?

How long have you been ON here?
 
2021-03-20 12:32:23 PM  
Information literacy is a global issue that requires complex educational and communicative solutions to help people understand empirical data, evaluate objective viewpoints, and empathize with subjective viewpoints.

It's probably the next step in global cultural evolution.

Start by eradicating religion.
 
2021-03-20 12:33:19 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Pretty sure the "wisdom of the crowd" was definitively disproven about 4 years ago.


The crowd chose something else by 3 million.
 
2021-03-20 12:33:50 PM  
Wikipedia is only as good as the community writing it.

English is probably the best case scenario. In comparison to Japanese (and any other language) I would expect that there are far more people involved, and do to the breadth of the English speaking world I would wager that those people represent far more ethnic, social, economic, national, and cultural background. As opposed to the Japanese version where the vast majority of people involved at Japanese.

And that doesn't mean the English version isn't flawed, just that it is probably better than most others. In the end wiki is a great thing to have but like every source of information it has its limitations and deficiencies that you need to be aware of.
 
2021-03-20 12:37:00 PM  

dywed88: Wikipedia is only as good as the community writing it.

English is probably the best case scenario. In comparison to Japanese (and any other language) I would expect that there are far more people involved, and do to the breadth of the English speaking world I would wager that those people represent far more ethnic, social, economic, national, and cultural background. As opposed to the Japanese version where the vast majority of people involved at Japanese.

And that doesn't mean the English version isn't flawed, just that it is probably better than most others. In the end wiki is a great thing to have but like every source of information it has its limitations and deficiencies that you need to be aware of.


I expect that language differences act to silo the community's culture(s), making it hard for everyone to get on the same page.
 
2021-03-20 12:38:53 PM  
If only there were a single source of official information and history provided by the government. Boy, wouldn't that be neat!
 
2021-03-20 12:41:57 PM  
You mean to tell me populations with relatively small numbers of native speakers won't always tell the most accurate information?
I thought for sure this a completely accurate depiction of western air travelers.

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2021-03-20 12:46:19 PM  

Chthonic Echoes: dywed88: Wikipedia is only as good as the community writing it.

English is probably the best case scenario. In comparison to Japanese (and any other language) I would expect that there are far more people involved, and do to the breadth of the English speaking world I would wager that those people represent far more ethnic, social, economic, national, and cultural background. As opposed to the Japanese version where the vast majority of people involved at Japanese.

And that doesn't mean the English version isn't flawed, just that it is probably better than most others. In the end wiki is a great thing to have but like every source of information it has its limitations and deficiencies that you need to be aware of.

I expect that language differences act to silo the community's culture(s), making it hard for everyone to get on the same page.


Obviously.

The difference is in the scale of the silos. Japanese is about 125 million speakers, virtually all of them are from Japan.

English had around 1.3 billion speakers, spread throughout the entire world. With hundreds of millions of people fluent in English as a secondary language.
 
2021-03-20 12:52:42 PM  

dywed88: Wikipedia is only as good as the community writing it.

English is probably the best case scenario. In comparison to Japanese (and any other language) I would expect that there are far more people involved, and do to the breadth of the English speaking world I would wager that those people represent far more ethnic, social, economic, national, and cultural background. As opposed to the Japanese version where the vast majority of people involved at Japanese.

And that doesn't mean the English version isn't flawed, just that it is probably better than most others. In the end wiki is a great thing to have but like every source of information it has its limitations and deficiencies that you need to be aware of.


There is also a subculture of war crimes denial in Japan that doesn't really exist in Germany, for example.

I'm too lazy to look, but I wouldn't be surprised if Turkish language Wikipedia downplays the Armenian genocide, Russian language Wikipedia downplays the Holodomor, or English Wikipedia downplays the Irish genocide, the responsibility for the partition of India, Native American genocide, American slavery, the chain gang system, or American involvement in Cold War atrocities.

Just in case anyone thought Americans were the good guys in this.

I think perhaps the only nations that have their hands clean when it comes to participating in or collaborating with genocide are Ireland, Andorra, and Liechtenstein. Maybe Luxembourg and Monaco.
 
2021-03-20 12:53:30 PM  

djfitz: You mean to tell me populations with relatively small numbers of native speakers won't always tell the most accurate information?
I thought for sure this a completely accurate depiction of western air travelers.

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Wait, how did that ad get my picture?
 
2021-03-20 1:03:35 PM  
お前の出典だれもよみたくねー。
 
2021-03-20 1:29:43 PM  

Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: dywed88: Wikipedia is only as good as the community writing it.

English is probably the best case scenario. In comparison to Japanese (and any other language) I would expect that there are far more people involved, and do to the breadth of the English speaking world I would wager that those people represent far more ethnic, social, economic, national, and cultural background. As opposed to the Japanese version where the vast majority of people involved at Japanese.

And that doesn't mean the English version isn't flawed, just that it is probably better than most others. In the end wiki is a great thing to have but like every source of information it has its limitations and deficiencies that you need to be aware of.

There is also a subculture of war crimes denial in Japan that doesn't really exist in Germany, for example.

I'm too lazy to look, but I wouldn't be surprised if Turkish language Wikipedia downplays the Armenian genocide, Russian language Wikipedia downplays the Holodomor, or English Wikipedia downplays the Irish genocide, the responsibility for the partition of India, Native American genocide, American slavery, the chain gang system, or American involvement in Cold War atrocities.

Just in case anyone thought Americans were the good guys in this.

I think perhaps the only nations that have their hands clean when it comes to participating in or collaborating with genocide are Ireland, Andorra, and Liechtenstein. Maybe Luxembourg and Monaco.


Those last three are quite wealthy countries who might not have actively participated but almost certainly looked the other way while taking genocide money from those other countries.
 
2021-03-20 1:52:13 PM  

thealgorerhythm: Information literacy is a global issue that requires complex educational and communicative solutions to help people understand empirical data, evaluate objective viewpoints, and empathize with subjective viewpoints.

It's probably the next step in global cultural evolution.

Start by eradicating religion.


Good luck drawing that line. Will it include the religion of socialism?
 
2021-03-20 1:55:53 PM  

dywed88: Wikipedia is only as good as the community writing it.


And the community reading it.  Too many mouth breathers will dismiss a wiki citation out of hand without even following the sources cited within the article.
 
2021-03-20 1:57:53 PM  

WelldeadLink: thealgorerhythm: Information literacy is a global issue that requires complex educational and communicative solutions to help people understand empirical data, evaluate objective viewpoints, and empathize with subjective viewpoints.

It's probably the next step in global cultural evolution.

Start by eradicating religion.

Good luck drawing that line. Will it include the religion of socialism?


Okay, boomer
 
2021-03-20 2:00:16 PM  

Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: dywed88: Wikipedia is only as good as the community writing it.

English is probably the best case scenario. In comparison to Japanese (and any other language) I would expect that there are far more people involved, and do to the breadth of the English speaking world I would wager that those people represent far more ethnic, social, economic, national, and cultural background. As opposed to the Japanese version where the vast majority of people involved at Japanese.

And that doesn't mean the English version isn't flawed, just that it is probably better than most others. In the end wiki is a great thing to have but like every source of information it has its limitations and deficiencies that you need to be aware of.

There is also a subculture of war crimes denial in Japan that doesn't really exist in Germany, for example.

I'm too lazy to look, but I wouldn't be surprised if Turkish language Wikipedia downplays the Armenian genocide, Russian language Wikipedia downplays the Holodomor, or English Wikipedia downplays the Irish genocide, the responsibility for the partition of India, Native American genocide, American slavery, the chain gang system, or American involvement in Cold War atrocities.

Just in case anyone thought Americans were the good guys in this.

I think perhaps the only nations that have their hands clean when it comes to participating in or collaborating with genocide are Ireland, Andorra, and Liechtenstein. Maybe Luxembourg and Monaco.


I am sure it is far from perfect, but that is where the breadth of the English speaking world is an advantage. No culture or nationality is an overwhelming portion for he community, if the American or British or Australian users would rather downplay something you have a world of different opinions present. . There are Irish people on it. There are Indians. There are various African communities. Again, it will be far from perfect but almost certainly a fair bit better than most other versions.

To be clear, this isn't something about the English language or English speakers being superior, just historical events that resulted in it being broadly spoken and the global lingua franca.
 
2021-03-20 2:29:57 PM  

pup.socket: お前の出典だれもよみたくねー。


私もあなたの情報源を読みたくありません。
 
2021-03-20 2:48:43 PM  
I'm curious about who the 41 Japanese language Wikipedia administrators are and why they sought that position.
 
2021-03-20 2:52:29 PM  

mr_a: Wow.  A "history" of the world, edited by anyone with an agenda, might have inaccuracies?

They'll get it sorted out eventually. After all, did we quit after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?*

* John Blutarski, Faber College,  1978


If it doesn't have a statue commemorating it, can we truly call it 'History '?
 
2021-03-20 3:03:31 PM  

dywed88: Wikipedia is only as good as the community writing it.

English is probably the best case scenario. In comparison to Japanese (and any other language) I would expect that there are far more people involved, and do to the breadth of the English speaking world I would wager that those people represent far more ethnic, social, economic, national, and cultural background. As opposed to the Japanese version where the vast majority of people involved at Japanese.

And that doesn't mean the English version isn't flawed, just that it is probably better than most others. In the end wiki is a great thing to have but like every source of information it has its limitations and deficiencies that you need to be aware of.


It is the last small corner of the internet that isn't utter bullshiat. You know, like the exact opposite of fark comment threads.
 
2021-03-20 3:12:56 PM  

mr_a: Wow.  A "history" of the world, edited by anyone with an agenda, might have inaccuracies?

They'll get it sorted out eventually. After all, did we quit after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?*

* John Blutarski, Faber College,  1978



Point of order: the documentary was released in 1978, but it depicted events from 1962.
 
2021-03-20 4:13:39 PM  
"praise in the U.S. and U.K. media for the accuracy of its articles"

Praise from U.S. media means the articles are left-wing biased.

But hey, let's just keep pretending we have honest media. And that Joe Biden doesn't suffer clinical dementia.
 
2021-03-20 5:16:55 PM  
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2021-03-20 6:45:07 PM  
I thought the link was going to be about Space Invaders.
 
2021-03-20 7:06:36 PM  

zgrizz: "praise in the U.S. and U.K. media for the accuracy of its articles"

Praise from U.S. media means the articles are left-wing biased.

But hey, let's just keep pretending we have honest media. And that Joe Biden doesn't suffer clinical dementia.


You probably also think that COVID being a serious issues was fake news made up by Democrats and those fifteen cases will go away any time now.
 
2021-03-20 8:55:13 PM  
At least Japanese Wikipedia is written in the language it purports to be. That's more than can be said for Scots Wikipedia.
 
2021-03-20 9:22:30 PM  
Anything important is written in English, where God is watching
 
2021-03-20 10:50:07 PM  

zgrizz: "praise in the U.S. and U.K. media for the accuracy of its articles"

Praise from U.S. media means the articles are left-wing biased.

But hey, let's just keep pretending we have honest media. And that Joe Biden doesn't suffer clinical dementia.


You need to hide your alts better.
 
2021-03-21 12:07:07 AM  

Winterlight: pup.socket: お前の出典だれもよみたくねー。

私もあなたの情報源を読みたくありません。


よまんでいいよ、情報元いれてないし、ただの嫌がらせコメントでした。
 
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