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(WFTV)   Father faces charges after his 2 year old daughter blows a .14 BAC - Claims he only gave her a "taste" of his beer   ( divider line
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2004-09-15 10:18:31 PM  
Freakin lightweight
2004-09-15 11:46:42 PM  
I bet the mother fed it to her and then blamed the father to get sympathy from the judge in the custody battle.
2004-09-16 04:14:54 AM  
This is a criminal act!

He should be flogged to within an inch of his life. Who gives BEER away for free?
2004-09-16 04:16:58 AM  
What's the problem?
2004-09-16 04:18:06 AM  
Hey baby, call me in 16 years.

In other news, a new generation of the Bush family is born.
2004-09-16 04:22:50 AM  
Your child wants Pabst.
2004-09-16 04:26:36 AM  
.14? Good thing she wasn't driving. That would be really dangerous.
2004-09-16 04:26:55 AM  
As the father of a six-month old girl, I say that whoever fed this child that much alcohol is a pure scumbag.
2004-09-16 04:27:13 AM  
"I swear, I didn't know she was 2"
2004-09-16 04:31:00 AM  
MisterSym As the father of a six-month old girl, I say that whoever fed this child that much alcohol is a pure scumbag.

Two year olds are far more mature than six month olds. You'll see.
2004-09-16 04:36:21 AM  
A .14 BAC should be rather easy to reach for a 2-year-old. With only a fraction of the bodymass/bloodvolume of an adult it would take much less alcohol to get there. Wich is one of the many reasons not to give toddler beer.

And having left the child unobserved where it could get more beer without the father noticing is not really a good excuse.
2004-09-16 04:37:47 AM  
Now was this in Wisconsin? Because in Wisconsin this is normal.

/Didn't RTFA
//To quote Lewis Black "People from Wisonsin aren't alcoholics, they are...and I say this with much respect, professionals"
2004-09-16 04:39:58 AM  
I have trouble believing this. .14 for a 2 year old would be way beyond lethal. Either the machine was off, the officer's lying, or something else is fishy.
2004-09-16 04:40:21 AM  
"Fark you,if you can hold a pint mate then you shouldn't be in a pub.Now fark off!"

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2004-09-16 04:41:34 AM  
Two words:
breeding permits
2004-09-16 04:43:29 AM  
HeWhoHasNoName, are you some kind of doctor?
2004-09-16 04:46:05 AM  
This isn't very disturbing unfortunately. I'm a special education teacher at a inner-city middle school and I have had students as young as eleven come to class drunk. The worst case I can think of is one in which a student was beat unconcious by his father because he failed to drink six beers. BTW - the man that beat this child only spent three months in jail and still has visitation rites.
2004-09-16 04:47:09 AM  
Remember guys, breath testing is proportional to body weight. It's not as if a 2-year-old blowing 0.14 actually drank as much as an adult would to get the same reading. Just a reminder.

Plus, I know from personal experience that little kids will eat and drink practically anything they can get their hands on. It's possible that the father was just careless, leaving alcohol lying around...

That said, it he deliberately got her drunk, he should be catapulted into an untreated sewage pond. With concrete shoes.
2004-09-16 04:51:14 AM  
0.14 is very unlikely to be lethal, whether you're aged 2 or 22. (As I said, the reading is proportional to body weight.)

But it is definately enough to be drunk.
2004-09-16 04:52:02 AM  

Congratulations, early in the thread you have taken the lead for biggest dumbass award.


An infant with a BAC of .14 would have the same effects as an adult with a BAC of .14.

0.02-0.03 BAC: No loss of coordination, slight euphoria and loss of shyness. Depressant effects are not apparent. Mildly relaxed and maybe a little lightheaded.

0.04-0.06 BAC: Feeling of well-being, relaxation, lower inhibitions, sensation of warmth. Euphoria. Some minor impairment of reasoning and memory, lowering of caution. Your behavior may become exaggerated and emotions intensified (Good emotions are better, bad emotions are worse)

0.07-0.09 BAC: Slight impairment of balance, speech, vision, reaction time, and hearing. Euphoria. Judgment and self-control are reduced, and caution, reason and memory are impaired, .08 is legally impaired and it is illegal to drive at this level. You will probably believe that you are functioning better than you really are.

0.10-0.125 BAC: Significant impairment of motor coordination and loss of good judgment. Speech may be slurred; balance, vision, reaction time and hearing will be impaired. Euphoria.

0.13-0.15 BAC: Gross motor impairment and lack of physical control. Blurred vision and major loss of balance. Euphoria is reduced and dysphoria (anxiety, restlessness) is beginning to appear. Judgment and perception are severely impaired.

0.16-0.19 BAC: Dysphoria predominates, nausea may appear. The drinker has the appearance of a sloppy drunk.

0.20 BAC: Felling dazed, confused or otherwise disoriented. May need help to stand or walk. If you injure yourself you may not feel the pain. Some people experience nausea and vomiting at this level. The gag reflex is impaired and you can choke if you do vomit. Blackouts are likely at this level so you may not remember what has happened.

0.25 BAC: All mental, physical and sensory functions are severely impaired. Increased risk of asphyxiation from choking on vomit and of seriously injuring yourself by falls or other accidents.

0.30 BAC: STUPOR. You have little comprehension of where you are. You may pass out suddenly and be difficult to awaken.

0.35 BAC: Coma is possible. This is the level of surgical anesthesia.

0.40 BAC and up: Onset of coma, and possible death due to
respiratory arrest.

Linky goodness
2004-09-16 04:53:22 AM  
He says she probably drank more on her own while he wasn't looking.

When he went to the bog, she went up to the bar and chugged another couple of pints.

/I would
2004-09-16 04:54:58 AM  
Old school gripe water used to have alcohol in it. Why do you think it worked? Now they give babies namby-pamby o douls version.
2004-09-16 05:02:44 AM  
Radio host Glenn Beck was talking about this today! he said its a great way to get a screaming baby to shut up
2004-09-16 05:18:41 AM  
...because, y'know, there's no way a baby's ingesting alcohol would stunt or impair their development.
2004-09-15 11:46:42 PM pmegan

I bet the mother fed it to her and then blamed the father to get sympathy from the judge in the custody battle.
The pathetic thing is that there are women (and probably men) who would do something like deliberately endanger their child to win a custody dispute.
2004-09-16 05:21:07 AM  
well, i've definitely been at 0.30 no doubt.
2004-09-16 05:28:11 AM  

That movie owns
2004-09-16 05:29:34 AM  

That was the funniest thing I've read all morning.

2004-09-16 05:32:34 AM  
"She's just no fun if she's not drunk..."
2004-09-16 05:34:41 AM  
Maybe he shouldn't have put a nipple on the beer bottle. Unfortunately, thats the only way I can drink it.
2004-09-16 05:37:41 AM  
State police say the girl was treated Sunday at a hospital for a blood alcohol level of .14, nearly twice the legal limit for an adult.

Since when did we have limits? Oh, they mean for driving, certainly not lethal limits like 0.35+.

He says she probably drank more on her own while he wasn't looking.

I've done the same thing as a child. I'm guessing I was about 4-6 and it was a game my siblings played. Who could sneak a drink of dad's beer when he went to the bathroom. We didnt know what it was, just that adults drank it and it tasted foul (Budweiser).

On the otherhand, to reach 0.14 she would have to drink 1 3.2% beer in one hour at 25lbs (I have no idea how much a two yr old weighs)

BAC Calculator goodness (with reverse if someone knows how much a two yr old weighs):

BAC Calculator
2004-09-16 05:59:38 AM  
My dad didn't let me drink 'til I was 16.

2004-09-16 06:13:21 AM  
I had my first sip of beer at 4 months old. It dnid't od me nay harmy!
2004-09-16 06:16:40 AM  
Bah. My TF sponsorship has run out. I need a beer.
2004-09-16 06:20:49 AM  
So now that you are back in the realm of the mortals, can you tell us what it was like to be a God-like TotalFarker?
2004-09-16 06:23:57 AM  
I can't drink a beer without my 10 month old son trying to get it from me! He'll just grab the bottle and stick it in his mouth and try to drink it. If you hold it away from him, he gets pissed off. We've given him little sips now and again (really little sips), and we don't see no harm about it. It's just funny to see the kid get all excited when you grab a beer out of the fridge. It's like I'm saying "Aww, that's my boy" when he does it.
2004-09-16 06:27:56 AM  
It is possible that the kid could have been swiping the beer, but the dad would have had to be plastered to not notice. I know when I was that little my dad and grandfather would give me tastes. As soon as my children were walking age they would swipe beers. If you turned your back on them, they would turn a beer up, but by the time they turned three they no longer had an intrest in sips of beer. I should also say that they never showed signs of being drunk.
2004-09-16 06:31:14 AM  
He says she probably drank more on her own while he wasn't looking.

I can't imagine a kid willingly drinking beer. When I was a really small child (a little older than the one in this story, 5 or 6 probably) my dad gave me a VERY SMALL TASTE of his beer (probably Budweiser) and I thought I was going to throw up, it tasted so bad. It's probably one of the factors that put me off drinking alcohol for so long.

That a 2-year-old would be given a taste of beer and think to herself, "Mm-mm, that's great! I need to drink some more of that!" seems highly unlikely to me.
2004-09-16 06:31:28 AM  
Chew Think, Flue Prize, Blue Glues
2004-09-16 06:35:37 AM  

It was like being given the keys to your local pub, only to find yourself becoming more addicted to alcohol than ever before, and then having the keys cruelly snatched away again when you were too drunk to notice.
2004-09-16 06:42:31 AM  
Back when I was just a bit older than this girl (3 or 4 i believe), I was hanging out in the garage with my dad and some of his friends. They were all drinking mugs of beer, that tap came in handy later in the high school years, back to my point, they were working on a old motorcycle. They had drained some fuel lines into a mason jar while doing so. When they weren't looking I managed to grab that jar and have a nice glass like mug of a roughly golden colored fluid just like the adults.

1 week of oxygen tent time and 1 less functioning kidney later I was more or less fine.

Kids really do the darndest things when you take your eyes of em, I wouldn't crucify the guy without knowing more, things really could have happened in the manner he said for all we know
2004-09-16 06:46:39 AM  
If I get BELOW .14 at any point this weekend, shame on me.

/going to UMich football and Ryder Cup Championship
2004-09-16 06:50:13 AM  
Whats the big deal? She obviously wasnt driving!
2004-09-16 07:07:49 AM  
fark I don't see what the big deal is. When I was little, I would ask my dad for a taste of his crown and coke, or some of the wine that mom was cooking with. I wouldn't be suprized if that is what happened here. a 2 year old has a small body, one little sip will raise his/her BAC significantly
2004-09-16 07:16:39 AM  

Now was this in Wisconsin? Because in Wisconsin this is normal.

I wouldn't be surprised. I moved to Wisconsin nearly two years ago and I'm still in culture shock.
The first night I got here I went out to a local bar and there were kids running around while the parents enjoyed brews and smokes at the bar. This was 10pm on a school night.

Coming from conservative Tennessee, where you can't get into a bar until you're 18 and drink at 21, I can't keep up with these heavyweights.
Open containers in public are allowed here. In TN you couldn't carry an unopened 6-pack. It has to be in a bag.

/south sucks

2004-09-16 07:26:36 AM  
hey you guys dont know if she was poisened by some kind of cleaning solution like surgical spirit, so he got her drunk to save her.
2004-09-16 07:34:25 AM  
2004-09-16 07:16:39 AM BloodyPuppy

are you complaining? =)

/is a Wisconsinite
2004-09-16 07:38:40 AM  
Ah beer and Wisconsin mentioned in the same sentence makes me proud.

//beer drinker
2004-09-16 07:39:24 AM  

Not in the least
2004-09-16 07:40:50 AM  
have they got an alcohol breath test thingy for her stroller. She sounds dangerous.

Damn Ruffians
2004-09-16 07:51:09 AM  
I can't believe the amount of people defending this guy! News flash folks: If your two year old gets drunk, you're a bad parent. Okay? It doesn't matter if you had a few sips when you were a kid. If your two year old kid gets drunk - what does that make you? Say it with me now.... that's right, you're a bad parent.

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