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(The Scottish Sun)   Jobless son sues his wealthy parents in bid to get them to pay his 'maintenance' for life. Bonus: He's 41 years old and has nothing to show for how much of a loser he is except being a trained lawyer and having a degree from Oxford University   (thescottishsun.co.uk) divider line
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2021-03-08 10:02:39 PM  
I wonder if it's a tax dodge
 
2021-03-08 10:08:28 PM  
What's his Fark handle?
 
2021-03-09 4:41:33 AM  

AsparagusFTW: What's his Fark handle?


Or his Parler handle?
 
2021-03-09 4:42:49 AM  
This is why abortion needs not only to be a basic right but also available up to the hundredth trimester.
 
2021-03-09 4:45:55 AM  
You say he's jobless but has a degree in law from Oxford and is suing his parents for support?

Seems to me like he has a job then and his whole plan is coming together. Really putting that education to use.
 
2021-03-09 4:45:55 AM  

AsparagusFTW: What's his Fark handle?


Probably got his folks to pay for TF and the expensive blue badge as well.
 
2021-03-09 4:46:30 AM  
Did he ask/insist on being created?
I love how parents make children and the children are supposed to magically one day support themselves all the while ignoring the fact that that may not actually happen and it is them who is solely responsible for that because they created that sentient human being.
 
2021-03-09 4:50:49 AM  

waxbeans: Did he ask/insist on being created?
I love how parents make children and the children are supposed to magically one day support themselves all the while ignoring the fact that that may not actually happen and it is them who is solely responsible for that because they created that sentient human being.

And

the parents usually support work policies (zero hours contracts, wage stagnation, NIMBY and home appreciation generally) that make it difficult to impossible for their children to get a start in life.
 
2021-03-09 4:50:55 AM  
The desire to help one's children is deeply human and self-sacrificing, but by conferring unearned advantage upon them, actively makes the world a worse place.  Discuss.
 
2021-03-09 4:51:43 AM  

wademh: You say he's jobless but has a degree in law from Oxford and is suing his parents for support?


He has a degree in history from Oxford. He subsequently trained as a lawyer.
 
2021-03-09 4:51:56 AM  
There are plenty of trust fund people out there. I can't fault him for wanting to be one, who wouldn't?
 
2021-03-09 4:56:02 AM  

orbister: wademh: You say he's jobless but has a degree in law from Oxford and is suing his parents for support?

He has a degree in history from Oxford. He subsequently trained as a lawyer.


Oh I see. Maybe he learned something about family history and that's why he subsequently trained as a lawyer.
 
2021-03-09 5:02:09 AM  

Algebrat: The desire to help one's children is deeply human and self-sacrificing, but by conferring unearned advantage upon them, actively makes the world a worse place.  Discuss.


The issue is, everyone blindly assumes that their child will be moderately successful. Reality is it is  a complete and utter Gamble. With another human's life. And at age 47 I don't think I've ever seen anyone take that responsibility serious.
 
2021-03-09 5:03:11 AM  

wademh: orbister: wademh: You say he's jobless but has a degree in law from Oxford and is suing his parents for support?

He has a degree in history from Oxford. He subsequently trained as a lawyer.

Oh I see. Maybe he learned something about family history and that's why he subsequently trained as a lawyer.


/
They're still laws on United States law books forbidding you from abandoning family.
They're just no longer enforced
 
2021-03-09 5:03:25 AM  
"Some people should die.  That's just unconscious knowledge."  ~  P. Farrell
 
2021-03-09 5:17:15 AM  

waxbeans: Did he ask/insist on being created?
I love how parents make children and the children are supposed to magically one day support themselves all the while ignoring the fact that that may not actually happen and it is them who is solely responsible for that because they created that sentient human being.


He's a very well educated adult over 40 and looks healthy enough to work other jobs if he can't get one as a lawyer. It's not like he's homeless or incapable of taking care of himself. He just seems like an asshole who got used to living rent free and there's probably a lot more going on as the article hints at a family feud of some kind.
 
2021-03-09 5:19:06 AM  
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2021-03-09 5:21:03 AM  

waxbeans: Did he ask/insist on being created?
I love how parents make children and the children are supposed to magically one day support themselves all the while ignoring the fact that that may not actually happen and it is them who is solely responsible for that because they created that sentient human being.


I agree, parents should be able to abort un wanted children at any age.
 
2021-03-09 5:23:52 AM  

waxbeans: wademh: orbister: wademh: You say he's jobless but has a degree in law from Oxford and is suing his parents for support?

He has a degree in history from Oxford. He subsequently trained as a lawyer.

Oh I see. Maybe he learned something about family history and that's why he subsequently trained as a lawyer.

/
They're still laws on United States law books forbidding you from abandoning family.
They're just no longer enforced


There are no such laws for able-bodied children in their 40s. If you insist that these laws exist then a citation to the law will be required.
 
2021-03-09 5:24:27 AM  

500 Days of Summer Camp: waxbeans: Did he ask/insist on being created?
I love how parents make children and the children are supposed to magically one day support themselves all the while ignoring the fact that that may not actually happen and it is them who is solely responsible for that because they created that sentient human being.

And the parents usually support work policies (zero hours contracts, wage stagnation, NIMBY and home appreciation generally) that make it difficult to impossible for their children to get a start in life.


UnCSB:
Local bakery - literally a family business across the street from the church, husband baking bread and wife at the counter - is permanently closed because the couple retired. They have an only son who's also trained as a baker. So why didn't he continue the business? His own parents asked too goddamn much money from him to take over the business. And it's not him whining that he wants it on the cheap. They haven't been able to sell it at all so it's objectively overpriced.
/UnCSB
 
2021-03-09 5:24:42 AM  
He supposedly gets 400 pounds a week from his parents.  London Farkers, how well can you live on that in the city?
 
2021-03-09 5:27:32 AM  
Holy hell, just reading that made me want to punch the guy in the face.

Even in the photo with the article the asswipe looks like he's asking for a handout.

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"Mummy, can I have more money for Happy Meals, pleeeease?"

What a piece of shiat.
 
2021-03-09 5:27:44 AM  
His gambit just seems to be a variation of the tactic of suing someone to maintain the lifestyle to which you've become accustomed. If his parents have supported him to this point, he just wants to make it official that he will be supported for the rest of his life the same way.

The mistake his parents made was not drawing a line and cutting off his financial support in the distant past. Maybe when he got his degree they could have said "Okay, we did what we could for you, the rest is up to you". I bet the family row was a result of them waking up to the realization that this is it, this is what their son has turned out to be.
 
2021-03-09 5:29:27 AM  
Little emperor syndrome.  Cultures that value males over everything create this situation.  Note that his parents have been paying for him NOT to be living near them.  They raised him in a closed culture with certain expectations, he didn't live up to whatever expectations, they wanted him out of sight, and convinced themselves and him that England had what he was looking for.  He's been unable to work since 2011?  And regularly files lawsuits against anyone that didn't make his life simple and easy?

Wonder if there are any skeletons his family is trying to keep in the closet?  Or is being in the closet the problem?
 
2021-03-09 5:30:51 AM  

TheMysteriousStranger: waxbeans: wademh: orbister: wademh: You say he's jobless but has a degree in law from Oxford and is suing his parents for support?

He has a degree in history from Oxford. He subsequently trained as a lawyer.

Oh I see. Maybe he learned something about family history and that's why he subsequently trained as a lawyer.

/
They're still laws on United States law books forbidding you from abandoning family.
They're just no longer enforced

There are no such laws for able-bodied children in their 40s. If you insist that these laws exist then a citation to the law will be required.


Counterpoint.
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2021-03-09 5:31:53 AM  

cretinbob: I wonder if it's a tax dodge


It's certainly a work dodge.
 
2021-03-09 5:32:13 AM  

TappingTheVein: waxbeans: Did he ask/insist on being created?
I love how parents make children and the children are supposed to magically one day support themselves all the while ignoring the fact that that may not actually happen and it is them who is solely responsible for that because they created that sentient human being.

He's a very well educated adult over 40 and looks healthy enough to work other jobs if he can't get one as a lawyer. It's not like he's homeless or incapable of taking care of himself. He just seems like an asshole who got used to living rent free and there's probably a lot more going on as the article hints at a family feud of some kind.


Maybe. But.  The Precedence needs to be set. Because there is always a chance Dick and Jane will have to throw their kid in the back room and have them there indefinitely. And that's probably not at all an equitable solution just because your genetics bore out a less than human person.
Should that less than human be dependent on you and have to see your face until the day they die?
Or should it be allowed to have autonomy, while also leaving but also have you required to take care of them?

But just to give you some perspective if your parents were destitute and you were paying for their facility do you believe that that means you get to dictate everything in their lives?


moreover doesn't the concept of alimony and providing what someone has become accustomed to already been set?


Lastly considering everything a human has to experience I am perplexed as to why it's not a more serious issue.
In fact it appears to be a human right to conceive despite the fact that it effects a whole other human being that has no input.
 
2021-03-09 5:32:57 AM  

thepeterd: [Fark user image image 300x275]


And that loser was developed in a vacuum that has nothing to do with their parents he just sprouted spontaneously?
 
2021-03-09 5:34:40 AM  

TheMysteriousStranger: waxbeans: wademh: orbister: wademh: You say he's jobless but has a degree in law from Oxford and is suing his parents for support?

He has a degree in history from Oxford. He subsequently trained as a lawyer.

Oh I see. Maybe he learned something about family history and that's why he subsequently trained as a lawyer.

/
They're still laws on United States law books forbidding you from abandoning family.
They're just no longer enforced

There are no such laws for able-bodied children in their 40s. If you insist that these laws exist then a citation to the law will be required.


I didn't say anything about able bodied.
My main point is you can't abandon family and those laws are in fact on the books.
I've actually researched this many many years before this.
If you seriously think I made it up completely you go find out.
I'm not going to sit here and lie about something I read.
 
2021-03-09 5:35:28 AM  

turboke: 500 Days of Summer Camp: waxbeans: Did he ask/insist on being created?
I love how parents make children and the children are supposed to magically one day support themselves all the while ignoring the fact that that may not actually happen and it is them who is solely responsible for that because they created that sentient human being.

And the parents usually support work policies (zero hours contracts, wage stagnation, NIMBY and home appreciation generally) that make it difficult to impossible for their children to get a start in life.

UnCSB:
Local bakery - literally a family business across the street from the church, husband baking bread and wife at the counter - is permanently closed because the couple retired. They have an only son who's also trained as a baker. So why didn't he continue the business? His own parents asked too goddamn much money from him to take over the business. And it's not him whining that he wants it on the cheap. They haven't been able to sell it at all so it's objectively overpriced.
/UnCSB


WTF
 
2021-03-09 5:37:07 AM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Holy hell, just reading that made me want to punch the guy in the face.

Even in the photo with the article the asswipe looks like he's asking for a handout.

[Fark user image image 850x1409]

"Mummy, can I have more money for Happy Meals, pleeeease?"

What a piece of shiat.


again I pose the question did he Force his parents to create him?


Why does every single human being ignore the fact that your child only exists because someone didn't give a blowjob
 
2021-03-09 5:38:21 AM  

Birnone: His gambit just seems to be a variation of the tactic of suing someone to maintain the lifestyle to which you've become accustomed. If his parents have supported him to this point, he just wants to make it official that he will be supported for the rest of his life the same way.

The mistake his parents made was not drawing a line and cutting off his financial support in the distant past. Maybe when he got his degree they could have said "Okay, we did what we could for you, the rest is up to you". I bet the family row was a result of them waking up to the realization that this is it, this is what their son has turned out to be.


I have to agree with you if your parents tell you at age 10 that the moment you hit 18 they're going to shove you out the front door then I can completely understand that that's what is in fact going to happen but we all know that isn't what's happening except in the most ugliest of homes
 
2021-03-09 5:39:25 AM  

waxbeans: TheMysteriousStranger: waxbeans: wademh: orbister: wademh: You say he's jobless but has a degree in law from Oxford and is suing his parents for support?

He has a degree in history from Oxford. He subsequently trained as a lawyer.

Oh I see. Maybe he learned something about family history and that's why he subsequently trained as a lawyer.

/
They're still laws on United States law books forbidding you from abandoning family.
They're just no longer enforced

There are no such laws for able-bodied children in their 40s. If you insist that these laws exist then a citation to the law will be required.

I didn't say anything about able bodied.
My main point is you can't abandon family and those laws are in fact on the books.
I've actually researched this many many years before this.
If you seriously think I made it up completely you go find out.
I'm not going to sit here and lie about something I read.


Dude, it's your credibility Defend it tangibly or don't.
 
2021-03-09 5:40:05 AM  

Sam's Club Sandwich: TheMysteriousStranger: waxbeans: wademh: orbister: wademh: You say he's jobless but has a degree in law from Oxford and is suing his parents for support?

He has a degree in history from Oxford. He subsequently trained as a lawyer.

Oh I see. Maybe he learned something about family history and that's why he subsequently trained as a lawyer.

/
They're still laws on United States law books forbidding you from abandoning family.
They're just no longer enforced

There are no such laws for able-bodied children in their 40s. If you insist that these laws exist then a citation to the law will be required.

Counterpoint.
[Fark user image image 425x453]


Nice Dodge of issues that should really concern would be parents
 
2021-03-09 5:42:27 AM  

wademh: waxbeans: TheMysteriousStranger: waxbeans: wademh: orbister: wademh: You say he's jobless but has a degree in law from Oxford and is suing his parents for support?

He has a degree in history from Oxford. He subsequently trained as a lawyer.

Oh I see. Maybe he learned something about family history and that's why he subsequently trained as a lawyer.

/
They're still laws on United States law books forbidding you from abandoning family.
They're just no longer enforced

There are no such laws for able-bodied children in their 40s. If you insist that these laws exist then a citation to the law will be required.

I didn't say anything about able bodied.
My main point is you can't abandon family and those laws are in fact on the books.
I've actually researched this many many years before this.
If you seriously think I made it up completely you go find out.
I'm not going to sit here and lie about something I read.

Dude, it's your credibility Defend it tangibly or don't.


I seriously would but Google doesn't function like that for me because Google is now all about ads and not finding what you're looking for yes I understand that's probably my fault because I have cookies and everything else on lockdown but I'm not ubdoing all that to prove I'm not a liar either you believe me or you don't and thus life goes on but I will say this I don't make it a habit of lying and I see myself as being blunt and forward because I have nothing to hide
 
2021-03-09 5:42:36 AM  

Mad Scientist: He supposedly gets 400 pounds a week from his parents.  London Farkers, how well can you live on that in the city?


Rent free with bills covered? reasonably well. Less than £400 per week trying to pay rent and bills, no chance, especially if he insists on maintaining his current life style. He may be able to scrape a flat share in zone 6 and and not starve to death.
 
2021-03-09 5:42:43 AM  

TwowheelinTim: AsparagusFTW: What's his Fark handle?

Or his Parler handle?


John Kerry. Also has a 'Mr. Teresa Heinz' sockpuppet account.
 
2021-03-09 5:45:47 AM  

waxbeans: TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Holy hell, just reading that made me want to punch the guy in the face.

Even in the photo with the article the asswipe looks like he's asking for a handout.

[Fark user image image 850x1409]

"Mummy, can I have more money for Happy Meals, pleeeease?"

What a piece of shiat.

again I pose the question did he Force his parents to create him?


Why does every single human being ignore the fact that your child only exists because someone didn't give a blowjob


Easy there, Dime store Descartes. I didn't create the bastard. Two unfortunate dimwits in Dubai apparently created this monster.
 
2021-03-09 5:51:24 AM  

waxbeans: Did he ask/insist on being created?
I love how parents make children and the children are supposed to magically one day support themselves all the while ignoring the fact that that may not actually happen and it is them who is solely responsible for that because they created that sentient human being.


ROFL

Yeah, it's the parents fault.  (/roll eyes) Every animal species on this planet encourages their progeny to leave the nest and become self sufficient.

Except humans. Clearly they can't be expected to stand on their own.

The guy in the article is a just victim of the family welfare state.
 
2021-03-09 5:51:46 AM  

wademh: waxbeans: TheMysteriousStranger: waxbeans: wademh: orbister: wademh: You say he's jobless but has a degree in law from Oxford and is suing his parents for support?

He has a degree in history from Oxford. He subsequently trained as a lawyer.

Oh I see. Maybe he learned something about family history and that's why he subsequently trained as a lawyer.

/
They're still laws on United States law books forbidding you from abandoning family.
They're just no longer enforced

There are no such laws for able-bodied children in their 40s. If you insist that these laws exist then a citation to the law will be required.

I didn't say anything about able bodied.
My main point is you can't abandon family and those laws are in fact on the books.
I've actually researched this many many years before this.
If you seriously think I made it up completely you go find out.
I'm not going to sit here and lie about something I read.

Dude, it's your credibility Defend it tangibly or don't.


Currently, thirty states in the U.S. as well as Puerto Rico have passed these filial (due from a son or daughter) responsibility laws. In a nutshell, these filial responsibility laws require adult children to financially support their parents if they are not able to take care of themselves or to cover unpaid medical bills, such as assisted living or long-term care costs. This also includes food, clothing, shelter, and health care/medical needs of the parent. The following list contains states that have passed a form of this filial responsibility law and a link directly to their state statute, where possible. Click on the state to find more specific information about their filial law.


That's all I could find for now and I know you're going to say it doesn't cover this but I've read stuff that does cover this in and roundabout way like I said I never mentioned whether or not the person was able body.
 
2021-03-09 5:52:38 AM  

wademh: waxbeans: TheMysteriousStranger: waxbeans: wademh: orbister: wademh: You say he's jobless but has a degree in law from Oxford and is suing his parents for support?

He has a degree in history from Oxford. He subsequently trained as a lawyer.

Oh I see. Maybe he learned something about family history and that's why he subsequently trained as a lawyer.

/
They're still laws on United States law books forbidding you from abandoning family.
They're just no longer enforced

There are no such laws for able-bodied children in their 40s. If you insist that these laws exist then a citation to the law will be required.

I didn't say anything about able bodied.
My main point is you can't abandon family and those laws are in fact on the books.
I've actually researched this many many years before this.
If you seriously think I made it up completely you go find out.
I'm not going to sit here and lie about something I read.

Dude, it's your credibility Defend it tangibly or don't.


Filial responsibility laws (filial support laws, filial piety laws) are laws in the United States that impose a duty, usually upon adult children, for the support of their impoverished parents or other relatives
 
2021-03-09 5:54:30 AM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Easy there, Dime store Descartes. I didn't create the bastard. Two unfortunate dimwits in Dubai apparently created this monster.


If I created a virus that was killing humanity wouldn't I be able to responsible?

But on the same hand I can sire a shiat head and for the most part I won't be held responsible for most of what they do or don't do.
 
2021-03-09 5:55:25 AM  
Feck this tosser. His parents need to start moving their wealth in such a way that upon their demise he gets nothing.
 
2021-03-09 6:00:15 AM  

wademh: waxbeans: TheMysteriousStranger: waxbeans: wademh: orbister: wademh: You say he's jobless but has a degree in law from Oxford and is suing his parents for support?

He has a degree in history from Oxford. He subsequently trained as a lawyer.

Oh I see. Maybe he learned something about family history and that's why he subsequently trained as a lawyer.

/
They're still laws on United States law books forbidding you from abandoning family.
They're just no longer enforced

There are no such laws for able-bodied children in their 40s. If you insist that these laws exist then a citation to the law will be required.

I didn't say anything about able bodied.
My main point is you can't abandon family and those laws are in fact on the books.
I've actually researched this many many years before this.
If you seriously think I made it up completely you go find out.
I'm not going to sit here and lie about something I read.

Dude, it's your credibility Defend it tangibly or don't.


Filial responsibility creates the obligation of an adult child to care for an impoverished parent. Under certain circumstances, filial support laws can be expanded to include a duty to care for other relatives such as adult siblings or aunts and uncles. Over twenty-fives states have filial responsibility laws
 
2021-03-09 6:03:10 AM  

wademh: waxbeans: TheMysteriousStranger: waxbeans: wademh: orbister: wademh: You say he's jobless but has a degree in law from Oxford and is suing his parents for support?

He has a degree in history from Oxford. He subsequently trained as a lawyer.

Oh I see. Maybe he learned something about family history and that's why he subsequently trained as a lawyer.

/
They're still laws on United States law books forbidding you from abandoning family.
They're just no longer enforced

There are no such laws for able-bodied children in their 40s. If you insist that these laws exist then a citation to the law will be required.

I didn't say anything about able bodied.
My main point is you can't abandon family and those laws are in fact on the books.
I've actually researched this many many years before this.
If you seriously think I made it up completely you go find out.
I'm not going to sit here and lie about something I read.

Dude, it's your credibility Defend it tangibly or don't.


Filial Responsibility isn't limited to one's parents either. The State laws where our extended family members reside applies to siblings too.

That was a surprise to me and nothing I planned for. It's one thing to try to help out a parent. But extending that financial responsibility to siblings goes far beyond anything I considered in my retirement planning.

I happen to have one financially reckless sibling who also lives an unhealthy lifestyle. I am not thrilled to know that my sibling's life choices could turn into my retirement shock down the road.


I know you're going to say this doesn't pertain but my original point was simply stated you can't abandon  family and I don't see why this isn't working both directions and if it doesn't I hope he's able to change that fact if that's the case
 
2021-03-09 6:04:53 AM  
Lost his high-paying lawyer job, then tried to sue Oxford for not giving him an appropriate education to work as a lawyer (?) which he previously did and now suing mom and dad after getting into a fight and getting cut off.

I'm thinking substance abuse.
 
2021-03-09 6:05:04 AM  
Lots of envious people in this thread. Like any of you would turn down living rent free in a million dollar apartment and a four hundred dollar a week allowance from your rich-as-fark parents.

Alternatively, if you would, you need your head read.
 
2021-03-09 6:09:48 AM  

wademh: waxbeans: TheMysteriousStranger: waxbeans: wademh: orbister: wademh: You say he's jobless but has a degree in law from Oxford and is suing his parents for support?

He has a degree in history from Oxford. He subsequently trained as a lawyer.

Oh I see. Maybe he learned something about family history and that's why he subsequently trained as a lawyer.

/
They're still laws on United States law books forbidding you from abandoning family.
They're just no longer enforced

There are no such laws for able-bodied children in their 40s. If you insist that these laws exist then a citation to the law will be required.

I didn't say anything about able bodied.
My main point is you can't abandon family and those laws are in fact on the books.
I've actually researched this many many years before this.
If you seriously think I made it up completely you go find out.
I'm not going to sit here and lie about something I read.

Dude, it's your credibility Defend it tangibly or don't.


I hope this is the last time someone asked me for citation
https://www.post-gazette.com/business/​legal/2019/05/26/Elder-Law-filial-medi​cal-custodial-care-support-pennsylvani​a-new-jersey-state-family/stories/2019​05260036


All I'm saying is there's a precedence here that you can't necessarily abandoned family
 
2021-03-09 6:13:18 AM  

Nidiot: Lots of envious people in this thread. Like any of you would turn down living rent free in a million dollar apartment and a four hundred dollar a week allowance from your rich-as-fark parents.

Alternatively, if you would, you need your head read.


I don't think most of us would sue our parents if they cut us off from that.
 
2021-03-09 6:17:20 AM  

wxboy: Nidiot: Lots of envious people in this thread. Like any of you would turn down living rent free in a million dollar apartment and a four hundred dollar a week allowance from your rich-as-fark parents.

Alternatively, if you would, you need your head read.

I don't think most of us would sue our parents if they cut us off from that.


True, but then we aren't lawyers.
 
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